SPAM Newsgroup

Is there a Microsoft Newsgroup specifically to discuss the problem of SPAM?

If not, then there ought to be one.

I would be happy to help.

-G

Vanguard
Thu Sep 18 15:55:04 CDT 2003

I would assume the Microsoft news server would mostly deal with their
own products. It is a publicly accessible news server but it's not like
Microsoft is running it for customers who want a news server. Check
what newsgroups are carried by your own ISP's news server, or do a
Google search for free or public news servers (or use Google Groups if
you don't mind a web interface). My news server has:

alt.spam
alt.stop.spamming

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"Gerard Marshall Vignes" <gerardvignes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eLOMxncfDHA.3284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Is there a Microsoft Newsgroup specifically to discuss the problem of
SPAM?
>
> If not, then there ought to be one.
>
> I would be happy to help.
>
> -G
>
>

N
Thu Sep 18 17:02:15 CDT 2003

In article <eLOMxncfDHA.3284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, gerardvignes@yahoo.com
says...
> Is there a Microsoft Newsgroup specifically to discuss the problem of SPAM?
>
> If not, then there ought to be one.
>
> I would be happy to help.

There are plenty of spam discussion groups. In addition to the ones
mentioned by Vanguard; if your server carries those groups, it probably also
carries, <news.admin.net-abuse.email>. Be sure to wear Nomex when hanging
out with that crowd, though; they get quite rowdy at times. Still worthwhile
to wade in the muck for the occasional antispam gem you will find.

Set your reader to <news.grc.com> and subscribe to grc.spam. Check out the
other groups, too. Very useful.

Set your reader to <news.spamcop.net> and subscribe to spamcop. Although
they tend to be heavily oriented to the users of the SpamCop reporting
system ("http://spamcop.net/", accept no substitute, either; .com and .org
are bogus imitators. Only .net is the real thing!), you can learn a thing,
or three, about spam and those who send spam.

--
Norman
~I'll be there, by your side
~in the land of Twilight.
~In your dream I will go
~'till we find the Sunlight.

Gerard
Thu Sep 18 21:21:01 CDT 2003

Thanks Norman,

I use Gibson Research site to check my firewall settings all the time. I
have a lot of respect for that operation. I never realized they were
handling the SPAM issue.

-G

"N. Miller" <koko@soko.invalid> wrote in message
news:MPG.19d3cb40e0e1a4939896cf@msnews.microsoft.com...
> In article <eLOMxncfDHA.3284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, gerardvignes@yahoo.com
> says...
> > Is there a Microsoft Newsgroup specifically to discuss the problem of
SPAM?
> >
> > If not, then there ought to be one.
> >
> > I would be happy to help.
>
> There are plenty of spam discussion groups. In addition to the ones
> mentioned by Vanguard; if your server carries those groups, it probably
also
> carries, <news.admin.net-abuse.email>. Be sure to wear Nomex when hanging
> out with that crowd, though; they get quite rowdy at times. Still
worthwhile
> to wade in the muck for the occasional antispam gem you will find.
>
> Set your reader to <news.grc.com> and subscribe to grc.spam. Check out the
> other groups, too. Very useful.
>
> Set your reader to <news.spamcop.net> and subscribe to spamcop. Although
> they tend to be heavily oriented to the users of the SpamCop reporting
> system ("http://spamcop.net/", accept no substitute, either; .com and .org
> are bogus imitators. Only .net is the real thing!), you can learn a thing,
> or three, about spam and those who send spam.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~I'll be there, by your side
> ~in the land of Twilight.
> ~In your dream I will go
> ~'till we find the Sunlight.

N
Thu Sep 18 22:37:35 CDT 2003

In article <O0qrsSlfDHA.3896@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, gerardvignes@yahoo.com
says...
> I use Gibson Research site to check my firewall settings all the time. I
> have a lot of respect for that operation. I never realized they were
> handling the SPAM issue.

They aren't actually handling it directly. One of their regulars, a guy
named Robin Keir, authored a program called, "K9". It is free, and it uses
naive Bayesian statistical analysis to classify email. Another, similar,
much mentioned in that group is POPFile. POPFile is actually written to
classify mail into several "buckets", but it works well on spam. Both,
reportedly, reach 98% accuracy in sorting spam from "ham" (keeper email),
but I never saw better than 96% with POPFile; probably because I was using
it as intended, and two of the accounts I was trying to sort had fairly
similar "tastes", so the program tended to get confused on which message
should go where.

--
Norman
~I'll be there, by your side
~in the land of Twilight.
~In your dream I will go
~'till we find the Sunlight.