Is it necessary to erase these files for security purposes?
It seems that they keep all the URL history etc and can only be erased by
certain 3rd party programs.
Any opinion on this?

Re: Index.dat files by Skorpion

Skorpion
Wed Oct 06 22:39:12 CDT 2004

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TheBFG regaled us with the following:

> Is it necessary to erase these files for security purposes?
> It seems that they keep all the URL history etc and can only be erased by
> certain 3rd party programs.
> Any opinion on this?

1) How important to you is it to cover your surfing tracks?

2) Would anyone you're "hiding" from know about [index.dat] and be able to
find it/them and be able to open/read it/them?

- --
Skorpion [skorpion at suespammers dot org]
"Don't attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by
stupidity."

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Re: Index.dat files by TheBFG

TheBFG
Thu Oct 07 00:43:04 CDT 2004

Thanks for the reply Skorpion
Actually I am not particulartly concerned about hiding my surfing habits!
My main concern is whether or not these files can harbour confidential
information ( ie passwords/ credit card numbers etc )that might be "
available" to some unknown person ( ie hacker) if such unknown person ever
was able to access my computer, which I realise is unlikely, but feasible.
But in these days of security concerns I just wondered if it was necessary to
be concerned about these particular files.
This train of thought was started when I read some information about anti
tracking software. Not knowing so much about this I thought that I could get
some useful information from the experts on this forum. The info on the
software sights are naturally designed to make the average user like me
feel that their anti... whatever program is essential. So I appreciate the
questions.
In answer to your first question
1. It's not that important
2. Probably not
Of course I have firewall/antivirus/spyware stoppers and removers already
so I really don't want any more unless it is essential.

2. Probably not



"Skorpion" wrote:

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> TheBFG regaled us with the following:
>
> > Is it necessary to erase these files for security purposes?
> > It seems that they keep all the URL history etc and can only be erased by
> > certain 3rd party programs.
> > Any opinion on this?
>
> 1) How important to you is it to cover your surfing tracks?
>
> 2) Would anyone you're "hiding" from know about [index.dat] and be able to
> find it/them and be able to open/read it/them?
>
> - --
> Skorpion [skorpion at suespammers dot org]
> "Don't attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by
> stupidity."
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Re: Index.dat files by N

N
Thu Oct 07 03:43:45 CDT 2004

In article <D0577419-C146-441D-A070-79D55F657E30@microsoft.com>, =?Utf-8?B?
VGhlQkZH?= says...

> Is it necessary to erase these files for security purposes?

Maybe. I've never actually tried very hard to pull data. If passwords are
included, their encryption level is probably only as good as the site you
visited.

> It seems that they keep all the URL history etc and can only be erased by
> certain 3rd party programs.
> Any opinion on this?

They are a "last in first out" buffer, and the size seems to be limited to
some percentage of the available disk space. I moved my TIF/Content.IE5
folder to a 545 MByte partition on a 40 GByte drive; it doesn't seem to grow
much larger than about 10% of that capacity. Ergo, it can't keep "all" URL
history; not enough space! I don't know what the upper limit might be when
it is on a full 80 GByte, or larger, partition.

I have never had any trouble finding, or deleting them with ordinary MS-DOS
tools, despite fanciful, and fearful claims of them being will hidden and
hard to delete. If they exist within the Windows folder, as they do in a
default install, the OS does make it hard to delete while Windows is
running. This is, I believe, true for all files in the Windows folder, and
sub-folders. But relocating the TIF to a different location is easy, done
from the Internet Properties; and all files seem readily deleteable from the
Windows Explorer once they are out of the Windows folder.

That last is my personal experience on only two Windows Me computers; others
may come along and contradict that experience.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Index.dat files by Skorpion

Skorpion
Thu Oct 07 11:01:53 CDT 2004

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TheBFG regaled us with the following:

> Thanks for the reply Skorpion
> Actually I am not particulartly concerned about hiding my surfing habits!
> My main concern is whether or not these files can harbour confidential
> information ( ie passwords/ credit card numbers etc )that might be "
> available" to some unknown person ( ie hacker) if such unknown person
> ever was able to access my computer, which I realise is unlikely, but
> feasible. But in these days of security concerns I just wondered if it was
> necessary to be concerned about these particular files.
> This train of thought was started when I read some information about anti
> tracking software. Not knowing so much about this I thought that I could
> get some useful information from the experts on this forum. The info on
> the
> software sights are naturally designed to make the average user like me
> feel that their anti... whatever program is essential. So I appreciate the
> questions.
> In answer to your first question
> 1. It's not that important
> 2. Probably not
> Of course I have firewall/antivirus/spyware stoppers and removers already
> so I really don't want any more unless it is essential.
>
> 2. Probably not
>

I don't believe I have ever heard of passwords and other such confidential
info being kept in those files.

The purpose of those files is to act as an index to the contents of History,
Cookies, and Content folders during surfing... as such, I'd be surprised to
find out the index files keep the contents of the files being indexed
(which is where I would expect to find any confidential data, if anywhere).

- From what I know, I wouldn't worry about confidentiality in relation to the
index files; just delete the cookie files themselves if you feel it
necessary.

- --
Skorpion [skorpion at suespammers dot org]
"Don't attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by
stupidity."

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Re: Index.dat files by Lisa_at_work

Lisa_at_work
Thu Oct 07 11:15:33 CDT 2004

FWIW, I use "CCleaner" available at www.download.com to
clean index.dat files on every boot. Works very well at
this and other tasks and it is free.

Lisa
>-----Original Message-----
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>TheBFG regaled us with the following:
>
>> Thanks for the reply Skorpion
>> Actually I am not particulartly concerned about hiding
my surfing habits!
>> My main concern is whether or not these files can
harbour confidential
>> information ( ie passwords/ credit card numbers etc )
that might be "
>> available" to some unknown person ( ie hacker) if such
unknown person
>> ever was able to access my computer, which I realise is
unlikely, but
>> feasible. But in these days of security concerns I just
wondered if it was
>> necessary to be concerned about these particular files.
>> This train of thought was started when I read some
information about anti
>> tracking software. Not knowing so much about this I
thought that I could
>> get some useful information from the experts on this
forum. The info on
>> the
>> software sights are naturally designed to make the
average user like me
>> feel that their anti... whatever program is essential.
So I appreciate the
>> questions.
>> In answer to your first question
>> 1. It's not that important
>> 2. Probably not
>> Of course I have firewall/antivirus/spyware stoppers
and removers already
>> so I really don't want any more unless it is essential.
>>
>> 2. Probably not
>>
>
>I don't believe I have ever heard of passwords and other
such confidential
>info being kept in those files.
>
>The purpose of those files is to act as an index to the
contents of History,
>Cookies, and Content folders during surfing... as such,
I'd be surprised to
>find out the index files keep the contents of the files
being indexed
>(which is where I would expect to find any confidential
data, if anywhere).
>
>- From what I know, I wouldn't worry about
confidentiality in relation to the
>index files; just delete the cookie files themselves if
you feel it
>necessary.
>
>- --
>Skorpion [skorpion at suespammers dot org]
>"Don't attribute to malice that which can be adequately
explained by
>stupidity."
>
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Re: Index.dat files by TheBFG

TheBFG
Fri Oct 08 03:35:03 CDT 2004

Thanks Lisa. I downloaded CCleaner and it works great.

"Lisa_at_work" wrote:

> FWIW, I use "CCleaner" available at www.download.com to
> clean index.dat files on every boot. Works very well at
> this and other tasks and it is free.
>
> Lisa
> >-----Original Message-----
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >TheBFG regaled us with the following:
> >
> >> Thanks for the reply Skorpion
> >> Actually I am not particulartly concerned about hiding
> my surfing habits!
> >> My main concern is whether or not these files can
> harbour confidential
> >> information ( ie passwords/ credit card numbers etc )
> that might be "
> >> available" to some unknown person ( ie hacker) if such
> unknown person
> >> ever was able to access my computer, which I realise is
> unlikely, but
> >> feasible. But in these days of security concerns I just
> wondered if it was
> >> necessary to be concerned about these particular files.
> >> This train of thought was started when I read some
> information about anti
> >> tracking software. Not knowing so much about this I
> thought that I could
> >> get some useful information from the experts on this
> forum. The info on
> >> the
> >> software sights are naturally designed to make the
> average user like me
> >> feel that their anti... whatever program is essential.
> So I appreciate the
> >> questions.
> >> In answer to your first question
> >> 1. It's not that important
> >> 2. Probably not
> >> Of course I have firewall/antivirus/spyware stoppers
> and removers already
> >> so I really don't want any more unless it is essential.
> >>
> >> 2. Probably not
> >>
> >
> >I don't believe I have ever heard of passwords and other
> such confidential
> >info being kept in those files.
> >
> >The purpose of those files is to act as an index to the
> contents of History,
> >Cookies, and Content folders during surfing... as such,
> I'd be surprised to
> >find out the index files keep the contents of the files
> being indexed
> >(which is where I would expect to find any confidential
> data, if anywhere).
> >
> >- From what I know, I wouldn't worry about
> confidentiality in relation to the
> >index files; just delete the cookie files themselves if
> you feel it
> >necessary.
> >
> >- --
> >Skorpion [skorpion at suespammers dot org]
> >"Don't attribute to malice that which can be adequately
> explained by
> >stupidity."
> >
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Re: Index.dat files by Lisa_at_work

Lisa_at_work
Fri Oct 08 10:11:32 CDT 2004

You are welcome. I am glad I could help.
>-----Original Message-----
>Thanks Lisa. I downloaded CCleaner and it works great.
>
>"Lisa_at_work" wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I use "CCleaner" available at www.download.com to
>> clean index.dat files on every boot. Works very well at
>> this and other tasks and it is free.
>>
>> Lisa
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> >Hash: SHA1
>> >
>> >TheBFG regaled us with the following:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the reply Skorpion
>> >> Actually I am not particulartly concerned about
hiding
>> my surfing habits!
>> >> My main concern is whether or not these files can
>> harbour confidential
>> >> information ( ie passwords/ credit card numbers etc )
>> that might be "
>> >> available" to some unknown person ( ie hacker) if
such
>> unknown person
>> >> ever was able to access my computer, which I realise
is
>> unlikely, but
>> >> feasible. But in these days of security concerns I
just
>> wondered if it was
>> >> necessary to be concerned about these particular
files.
>> >> This train of thought was started when I read some
>> information about anti
>> >> tracking software. Not knowing so much about this I
>> thought that I could
>> >> get some useful information from the experts on this
>> forum. The info on
>> >> the
>> >> software sights are naturally designed to make the
>> average user like me
>> >> feel that their anti... whatever program is
essential.
>> So I appreciate the
>> >> questions.
>> >> In answer to your first question
>> >> 1. It's not that important
>> >> 2. Probably not
>> >> Of course I have firewall/antivirus/spyware
stoppers
>> and removers already
>> >> so I really don't want any more unless it is
essential.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Probably not
>> >>
>> >
>> >I don't believe I have ever heard of passwords and
other
>> such confidential
>> >info being kept in those files.
>> >
>> >The purpose of those files is to act as an index to
the
>> contents of History,
>> >Cookies, and Content folders during surfing... as
such,
>> I'd be surprised to
>> >find out the index files keep the contents of the
files
>> being indexed
>> >(which is where I would expect to find any
confidential
>> data, if anywhere).
>> >
>> >- From what I know, I wouldn't worry about
>> confidentiality in relation to the
>> >index files; just delete the cookie files themselves
if
>> you feel it
>> >necessary.
>> >
>> >- --
>> >Skorpion [skorpion at suespammers dot org]
>> >"Don't attribute to malice that which can be
adequately
>> explained by
>> >stupidity."
>> >
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