To whoever may be interested

While browsing on the internet an advertisement printed out on my printer
without me requesting it or in any way giving permission to do so. If they
deliberately set a web-page to force your printer to print their adds, is it
illegal? I am unsure as to who may be interested in perhaps investigating the
company. The ad was as follows minus the graphics;

VONAGE - The Broadband Phone Company, $24.99 a month
CALL ANYWHERE in the US and Canada with your broadband connection

I have the most up-to-date security software running on my machine.
They start using your printer without your knowledge and all of a sudden you
don't feel like you own your computer anymore.

Thank you for your time.

Re: Hacked Printer? How? by N

N
Fri Jan 28 13:42:38 CST 2005

In article <EDC23A4E-3758-4934-A4D3-2E02C92E8B97@microsoft.com>, =?Utf-8?B?
WElJ?= says...

> To whoever may be interested

> While browsing on the internet an advertisement printed out on my printer
> without me requesting it or in any way giving permission to do so. If they
> deliberately set a web-page to force your printer to print their adds, is it
> illegal? I am unsure as to who may be interested in perhaps investigating the
> company. The ad was as follows minus the graphics;

> VONAGE - The Broadband Phone Company, $24.99 a month
> CALL ANYWHERE in the US and Canada with your broadband connection

> I have the most up-to-date security software running on my machine.
> They start using your printer without your knowledge and all of a sudden you
> don't feel like you own your computer anymore.

There is insufficient information from which to form a conclusion. Having
"File and printer sharing for Microsoft networks" enabled, and no
protections between the computer and the Internet would allow that. So also
would installation of slick browser helper objects, cute icons, and certain
P2P programs. Only you know exactly what you have on your system, nobody in
this group can begin to guess.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Hacked Printer? How? by Seeker

Seeker
Fri Jan 28 13:59:17 CST 2005

While I understand your outrage at this intrusion, I am not sure you can
classify it as 'hack' per se. Certainly it is programmtically possible to
use Internet Explorer to send a page to your default printer if your
settings allow it; you can tighten I.E. by setting the security for the
Internet Zone to 'High', and thus blocking behind-the-scenes invokation of
Active-X controls etc. Check out the following link for further information
on I.E. security zones.

http://windowssecrets.com/041118/


"N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c6435873a61f30c98a605@msnews.microsoft.com...
> In article <EDC23A4E-3758-4934-A4D3-2E02C92E8B97@microsoft.com>,
> =?Utf-8?B?
> WElJ?= says...
>
>> To whoever may be interested
>
>> While browsing on the internet an advertisement printed out on my printer
>> without me requesting it or in any way giving permission to do so. If
>> they
>> deliberately set a web-page to force your printer to print their adds, is
>> it
>> illegal? I am unsure as to who may be interested in perhaps investigating
>> the
>> company. The ad was as follows minus the graphics;
>
>> VONAGE - The Broadband Phone Company, $24.99 a month
>> CALL ANYWHERE in the US and Canada with your broadband connection
>
>> I have the most up-to-date security software running on my machine.
>> They start using your printer without your knowledge and all of a sudden
>> you
>> don't feel like you own your computer anymore.
>
> There is insufficient information from which to form a conclusion. Having
> "File and printer sharing for Microsoft networks" enabled, and no
> protections between the computer and the Internet would allow that. So
> also
> would installation of slick browser helper objects, cute icons, and
> certain
> P2P programs. Only you know exactly what you have on your system, nobody
> in
> this group can begin to guess.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint



Re: Hacked Printer? How? by N

N
Sat Jan 29 17:56:53 CST 2005

In article <O3FVaPXBFHA.3528@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, Seeker says...

> While I understand your outrage at this intrusion...

My outrage? It wasn't my problem to begin with. Could you not have edited
your quotes more adroitly; to leave only the OP's comments? The manner of
your post makes it look as if you are responding to my post, not to the
original post.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Hacked Printer? How? by Karl

Karl
Sun Jan 30 07:31:23 CST 2005

I agree. It sounds more likely not that your printer was "hacked," or that
anything was really "hacked." It sounds like some web page caused IE to
spit the current web page to the printer, using functionality that was put
into IE by design. The web page in question has no knowledge of your
computer or printer and would not be able to do the same thing again, unless
you visited their site again.

Note that when you visit a web site, you're effectively downloading and
executing code on your computer. When you visit untrustworthy sites,
unpredictable things can happen.


"Seeker" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:O3FVaPXBFHA.3528@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> While I understand your outrage at this intrusion, I am not sure you can
> classify it as 'hack' per se. Certainly it is programmtically possible to
> use Internet Explorer to send a page to your default printer if your
> settings allow it; you can tighten I.E. by setting the security for the
> Internet Zone to 'High', and thus blocking behind-the-scenes invokation of
> Active-X controls etc. Check out the following link for further
information
> on I.E. security zones.
>
> http://windowssecrets.com/041118/
>
>
> "N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c6435873a61f30c98a605@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > In article <EDC23A4E-3758-4934-A4D3-2E02C92E8B97@microsoft.com>,
> > =?Utf-8?B?
> > WElJ?= says...
> >
> >> To whoever may be interested
> >
> >> While browsing on the internet an advertisement printed out on my
printer
> >> without me requesting it or in any way giving permission to do so. If
> >> they
> >> deliberately set a web-page to force your printer to print their adds,
is
> >> it
> >> illegal? I am unsure as to who may be interested in perhaps
investigating
> >> the
> >> company. The ad was as follows minus the graphics;
> >
> >> VONAGE - The Broadband Phone Company, $24.99 a month
> >> CALL ANYWHERE in the US and Canada with your broadband connection
> >
> >> I have the most up-to-date security software running on my machine.
> >> They start using your printer without your knowledge and all of a
sudden
> >> you
> >> don't feel like you own your computer anymore.
> >
> > There is insufficient information from which to form a conclusion.
Having
> > "File and printer sharing for Microsoft networks" enabled, and no
> > protections between the computer and the Internet would allow that. So
> > also
> > would installation of slick browser helper objects, cute icons, and
> > certain
> > P2P programs. Only you know exactly what you have on your system, nobody
> > in
> > this group can begin to guess.
> >
> > --
> > Norman
> > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>
>



Thanks for info by XII

XII
Tue Feb 15 13:15:23 CST 2005

Thanks for the ideas, am learning more every day.