At my job I recieved an mysterious email from a person
that has the same email address as I do? For example my
email adress Jlynn@nwood.com I recieved and email from
Friend@nwood.com. I am the exchange admin and I didnt not
setup an account like this and there is not one on the
server. How can this be? I havre microsoft exchange server
2000 and



Jlynn

Re: Could I have been hacked? by Robert

Robert
Thu Aug 07 07:45:11 CDT 2003

Correction...

You'll find out that anyone can use "anything" in the "From:" header of an
e-mail message.

"Robert Burris" <fossil24@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:%23QRIszNXDHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Go to http://www.rfc-editor.org and read up on SMTP. You'll find out that
> anyone can use "anything" in the "To:" header of an e-mail message. You
> need to rethink the idea that you're in control of a server when you don't
> know the fundamentals.
>
> What if some clueless idiot, like Tracker, comes along and says "yes,
you've
> been hacked" over something stupid like this? What if said idiot tells
you
> to format and reinstall? Do you realize that anyone and everyone can
offer
> you advice in a newsgroup like this? Don't rely on help from dubious
sources
> to help you skate through.
>
> <jocelynunderwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:044501c35c44$3fe13080$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> > At my job I recieved an mysterious email from a person
> > that has the same email address as I do? For example my
> > email adress Jlynn@nwood.com I recieved and email from
> > Friend@nwood.com. I am the exchange admin and I didnt not
> > setup an account like this and there is not one on the
> > server. How can this be? I havre microsoft exchange server
> > 2000 and
> >
> >
> >
> > Jlynn
>
>



Re: Could I have been hacked? by Stephen

Stephen
Thu Aug 07 15:52:22 CDT 2003

In article <3F31F273.F3F87BE4@yahoo.com>, Tracker <"snailmail(remove)
222000"@yahoo.com> says...
>
>
> The truth is always challenged by unknowledgeable
> individuals.
>
..and falsehoods are always challenged by knowledgeable individuals.

/steve
--
6 cyls, 6 carbs, 6 pipes, wifi, Internet access, the open road is my
office... http://www.cotse.net/users/steve/myoffice.jpg

No one gives you more control over your e-mail than we do!
http://www.cotse.net/servicedetails.html

Re: Could I have been hacked? by J

J
Thu Aug 07 16:48:25 CDT 2003

I found the problem and my general concern was did
someone get into the system and create and email account.
So I went to source which is a Web Hosting and it turns
out the program the person used was through thier web
site email system which alway you to enter any bogus
address they like so inessence you are correct. Cheers!!
>-----Original Message-----
>Correction...
>
>You'll find out that anyone can use "anything" in
the "From:" header of an
>e-mail message.
>
>"Robert Burris" <fossil24@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>news:%23QRIszNXDHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Go to http://www.rfc-editor.org and read up on SMTP.
You'll find out that
>> anyone can use "anything" in the "To:" header of an e-
mail message. You
>> need to rethink the idea that you're in control of a
server when you don't
>> know the fundamentals.
>>
>> What if some clueless idiot, like Tracker, comes along
and says "yes,
>you've
>> been hacked" over something stupid like this? What if
said idiot tells
>you
>> to format and reinstall? Do you realize that anyone
and everyone can
>offer
>> you advice in a newsgroup like this? Don't rely on
help from dubious
>sources
>> to help you skate through.
>>
>> <jocelynunderwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:044501c35c44$3fe13080$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> > At my job I recieved an mysterious email from a
person
>> > that has the same email address as I do? For example
my
>> > email adress Jlynn@nwood.com I recieved and email
from
>> > Friend@nwood.com. I am the exchange admin and I
didnt not
>> > setup an account like this and there is not one on
the
>> > server. How can this be? I havre microsoft exchange
server
>> > 2000 and
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jlynn
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Re: Could I have been hacked? by Cap

Cap
Thu Aug 07 17:57:23 CDT 2003

You are a victim of your own stupidity, Debbie.
fucking idiot...
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Tracker" <"snailmail(remove)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3F31F273.F3F87BE4@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Robert Burris wrote:
>
> > Go to http://www.rfc-editor.org and read up on SMTP. You'll find out
that
> > anyone can use "anything" in the "To:" header of an e-mail message. You
> > need to rethink the idea that you're in control of a server when you
don't
> > know the fundamentals.
> >
> > What if some clueless idiot, like Tracker, comes along and says "yes,
you've
> > been hacked" over something stupid like this? What if said idiot tells
you
> > to format and reinstall? Do you realize that anyone and everyone can
offer
> > you advice in a newsgroup like this? Don't rely on help from dubious
sources
> > to help you skate through.
> >
>
> >
>
> The reason for this format/reinstall is because the general public is
unaware of
> the signs that their computer is hacked/owned.
> This is a safe guard to keep personal computers secured. Since people
> constantly flame my knowledge, it shows me I know what this babe is
talking
> about. It gives me more confidence that what this babe is posting and
speaking
> is "right on the nose". The truth is always challenged by unknowledgeable
> individuals.
>
> You want the victims to stay victims, "no can do".
>
> Tracker
> I know how important it is for me not to define myself by how others
> perceive me.
>
> Interested in purchasing my book named "Security Minds versus Malicious
> Minds" visit:
> www.securityminds2003.com
> It will teach you to learn about Windows, the Internet and Hacking
>
> To view some kick butt artwork, visit:
> http://www.captiveimagery.com/index.cfm
>



Re: Could I have been hacked? by mto

mto
Thu Aug 07 18:04:30 CDT 2003


"Tracker" <"snailmail(remove)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3F31F273.F3F87BE4@yahoo.com...
> The reason for this format/reinstall is because the general public is
unaware of
> the signs that their computer is hacked/owned.
> This is a safe guard to keep personal computers secured.

You sound like the surgeon that wanted to amputate the entire leg because of
a tiny splinter in the big toe. Obviously you have never formatted and
reinstalled everything on a computer that had more than an OS and one file.



Re: Could I have been hacked? by Chuck

Chuck
Thu Aug 07 21:16:08 CDT 2003

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:32:19 +0400, Tracker
<"snailmail(remove)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>Robert Burris wrote:
>
>> Go to http://www.rfc-editor.org and read up on SMTP. You'll find out that
>> anyone can use "anything" in the "To:" header of an e-mail message. You
>> need to rethink the idea that you're in control of a server when you don't
>> know the fundamentals.
>>
>> What if some clueless idiot, like Tracker, comes along and says "yes, you've
>> been hacked" over something stupid like this? What if said idiot tells you
>> to format and reinstall? Do you realize that anyone and everyone can offer
>> you advice in a newsgroup like this? Don't rely on help from dubious sources
>> to help you skate through.
>>
>
>>
<spam>
<drivel>
>SNIP<
>
>Interested in purchasing my book named "Security Minds versus Malicious
>Minds" visit:
>www.securityminds2003.com
>It will teach you to learn about Windows, the Internet and Hacking
</drivel>
<advertising>
>To view some kick butt artwork, visit:
>http://www.captiveimagery.com/index.cfm
</advertising>
</spam>

Chuck Croll
cacrollthespam@yahoo.com
Spam sucks - PLEASE get rid of the spam before emailing me!
Trusted Computing? Right! http://www.againsttcpa.com/
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Re: Could I have been hacked? by Robert

Robert
Fri Aug 08 12:37:42 CDT 2003

If you look closely you will see that I corrected myself (To: vs. From:) in
a follow-up message shortly after posting. Your original query mentions
nothing about DNS. You clearly state that you received a message appearing
to come from a "non-existent" account in your domain, and you are wondering
if you've been hacked. How is that a DNS issue?

It is a "weakness: in the SMTP protocol. The protocol specifies a mechanism
for ensuring delivery of mail, including verification of a recipient's
e-mail address, but it does not provide for verification of the source
e-mail address. In fact the protocol doesn't provide for any verification
of the source except for the IP address of the sever "at the last node".
You'll find that information in the "Received:" header. And even with that
you can only be sure, at first glance, that the last "Received:" header is
reliable. Spammers often add fake headers to obscure the source and route.

So, again I exhort you to study up on the protocols.

BTW: I do administer an Exchange 2000 machine. Not that it has any
relevance at this point.

Oh yeah, Tracker say you need to format and reinstall. :-)


"J" <J@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:052201c35d27$fbfc9cd0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> I can see that you're not and Exchange Admin. Perhaps you
> should actually know what you're talking about before you
> anwser questions. It's not the TO: headers I am concerned
> about, of course you can put anything in the TO: header,
> this is true for spam. But you have misunderstood my
> question. I am talking about a DNS issue.I am not naive
> I would not take advice from someone advice that does not
> know the fundamentals of DNS a just run with it, without
> quailfying the information. But thanks for the responds.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Go to http://www.rfc-editor.org and read up on SMTP.
> You'll find out that
> >anyone can use "anything" in the "To:" header of an e-
> mail message. You
> >need to rethink the idea that you're in control of a
> server when you don't
> >know the fundamentals.
> >
> >What if some clueless idiot, like Tracker, comes along
> and says "yes, you've
> >been hacked" over something stupid like this? What if
> said idiot tells you
> >to format and reinstall? Do you realize that anyone and
> everyone can offer
> >you advice in a newsgroup like this? Don't rely on help
> from dubious sources
> >to help you skate through.
> >
> ><jocelynunderwood@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:044501c35c44$3fe13080$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> At my job I recieved an mysterious email from a person
> >> that has the same email address as I do? For example my
> >> email adress Jlynn@nwood.com I recieved and email from
> >> Friend@nwood.com. I am the exchange admin and I didnt
> not
> >> setup an account like this and there is not one on the
> >> server. How can this be? I havre microsoft exchange
> server
> >> 2000 and
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jlynn
> >
> >
> >.
> >