Hi all,
I have a W2003 SBS server.
I copied a folder from a backup tape of our old NT4 server to this new server.
Now I can't access, take ownership or delete the folder.
On the old server the folder was owned by a single user.
I have tried to replicate this users details in a new a/c on the new server
but this still won't allow access to the folder.

1. Is there any way for me (the administrator) to take ownership outside of
the security settings in Windows Explorer.

2. If not, how do I get the old NT4 server to become a BDC of the new domain
so I can log on there with the old users credentials, browse to the file an
change it's ownership. I have added the old server to the DNS of the new and
can browse it from the new but not the other way.

I tried looking this up but can't find an answer anywhere.
--
Cheers
Chas

***************
* Spectrum is Green *
***************

Re: Cannot take ownership of a folder by Roger

Roger
Tue Jan 31 20:17:40 CST 2006

What is it that you have tried ?
You should be able to access the properties of the root of the storage
area, access the Security tab, click Advanced, change to the Owner
tab, highlight Administrators in the list of potential owners and then
apply the change of ownership.
What is happening when you cannot take ownership?

"Chas Large" <ChasLarge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:06376B0D-0349-4C60-B9EA-270F8AB55938@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,
> I have a W2003 SBS server.
> I copied a folder from a backup tape of our old NT4 server to this new
> server.
> Now I can't access, take ownership or delete the folder.
> On the old server the folder was owned by a single user.
> I have tried to replicate this users details in a new a/c on the new
> server
> but this still won't allow access to the folder.
>
> 1. Is there any way for me (the administrator) to take ownership outside
> of
> the security settings in Windows Explorer.
>
> 2. If not, how do I get the old NT4 server to become a BDC of the new
> domain
> so I can log on there with the old users credentials, browse to the file
> an
> change it's ownership. I have added the old server to the DNS of the new
> and
> can browse it from the new but not the other way.
>
> I tried looking this up but can't find an answer anywhere.
> --
> Cheers
> Chas
>
> ***************
> * Spectrum is Green *
> ***************



Re: Cannot take ownership of a folder by ChasLarge

ChasLarge
Wed Feb 01 03:18:27 CST 2006

Hi Roger,
Thanks for responding.

I guess saying I have tried everything is a bit vague, sorry.

If I try any of the following:
Open Folder, Delete Folder
I get a security message:
D:\Folder1\Folder2\Folder3\RestoredFolder
is not accessible
Access is denied

I can access Folders 1,2 & 3 OK.

If I Right click, select Sharing & Security, Security tab I get the error
message:
Security
You do not have permission to view or edit the current permission settings
for RestoredFolder, but you can take ownership or change Audit settings.

I then click - Advanced - Owner
Listed is
Administrator (mydomain\Administrator)
Administrators (mydomain\Administrators)

I then tick the box "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" - OK - OK
the dialogs close but still access is denied.

If I come back to this point and click Other Users or Groups
Enter another user or Group for example:
IanLarge (IanLarge@mydomain.local)

Click OK - Apply I get the message:
Security
If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and
reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions. OK

I click OK - OK - OK dialogs close.

I go back and still get the same errors and the only listed owners are the
Administrator(s) as above.

I am logged in as the Administrator.

I have tried this with different accoounts.

I don't know what else I can do...

--
Cheers
Chas

***************
* Spectrum is Green *
***************


"Roger Abell [MVP]" wrote:

> What is it that you have tried ?
> You should be able to access the properties of the root of the storage
> area, access the Security tab, click Advanced, change to the Owner
> tab, highlight Administrators in the list of potential owners and then
> apply the change of ownership.
> What is happening when you cannot take ownership?
>
> "Chas Large" <ChasLarge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:06376B0D-0349-4C60-B9EA-270F8AB55938@microsoft.com...
> > Hi all,
> > I have a W2003 SBS server.
> > I copied a folder from a backup tape of our old NT4 server to this new
> > server.
> > Now I can't access, take ownership or delete the folder.
> > On the old server the folder was owned by a single user.
> > I have tried to replicate this users details in a new a/c on the new
> > server
> > but this still won't allow access to the folder.
> >
> > 1. Is there any way for me (the administrator) to take ownership outside
> > of
> > the security settings in Windows Explorer.
> >
> > 2. If not, how do I get the old NT4 server to become a BDC of the new
> > domain
> > so I can log on there with the old users credentials, browse to the file
> > an
> > change it's ownership. I have added the old server to the DNS of the new
> > and
> > can browse it from the new but not the other way.
> >
> > I tried looking this up but can't find an answer anywhere.
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Chas
> >
> > ***************
> > * Spectrum is Green *
> > ***************
>
>
>

Re: Cannot take ownership of a folder by Malke

Malke
Wed Feb 01 06:28:30 CST 2006

Chas Large wrote:

> Hi Roger,
> Thanks for responding.
>
> I guess saying I have tried everything is a bit vague, sorry.
>
> If I try any of the following:
> Open Folder, Delete Folder
> I get a security message:
> D:\Folder1\Folder2\Folder3\RestoredFolder
> is not accessible
> Access is denied
>
> I can access Folders 1,2 & 3 OK.
>
> If I Right click, select Sharing & Security, Security tab I get the
> error message:
> Security
> You do not have permission to view or edit the current permission
> settings for RestoredFolder, but you can take ownership or change
> Audit settings.
>
> I then click - Advanced - Owner
> Listed is
> Administrator (mydomain\Administrator)
> Administrators (mydomain\Administrators)
>
> I then tick the box "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" - OK
> - OK the dialogs close but still access is denied.
>
> If I come back to this point and click Other Users or Groups
> Enter another user or Group for example:
> IanLarge (IanLarge@mydomain.local)
>
> Click OK - Apply I get the message:
> Security
> If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to
> close and reopen this object's properties before you can view or
> change permissions. OK
>
> I click OK - OK - OK dialogs close.
>
> I go back and still get the same errors and the only listed owners are
> the Administrator(s) as above.
>
> I am logged in as the Administrator.
>
> I have tried this with different accoounts.
>
> I don't know what else I can do...
>
Mr. Abell may have a better idea for you, but one way to get the data
would be to boot the computer with Knoppix, which will not recognize
the NT permissions. Copy the data to a usb key or a cd-r and from there
you should be able to transfer it to a different location on your
Windows machine. This doesn't help you delete the folder, since Knoppix
won't write to NTFS.

Another approach would be to boot with either a Bart's PE or ERD
Commander and work with the folder from there. ERD Commander is very
expensive, but I believe they have an emergency version available for
download.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Re: Cannot take ownership of a folder by Roger

Roger
Wed Feb 01 23:27:16 CST 2006

You could follow Malke's suggestions, or, given that your account
as an admin does already have ownership, you could try expressly
setting permissions and forcing these to be propagated to all of the
substructure. In the security dialog just make sure that there is a
grant for full to the administrators group, and that there are no
denies, and then look for the checkbox to set these permissions on
all subfolders and files, check it, and apply.

If you still have problems after that, then it is likely that you have
one of a number of issues, such as excess path length, use of
reserved names involved, etc..

Roger

"Chas Large" <ChasLarge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:08C8AB81-AE5B-4ADC-B153-A28B336EA243@microsoft.com...
> Hi Roger,
> Thanks for responding.
>
> I guess saying I have tried everything is a bit vague, sorry.
>
> If I try any of the following:
> Open Folder, Delete Folder
> I get a security message:
> D:\Folder1\Folder2\Folder3\RestoredFolder
> is not accessible
> Access is denied
>
> I can access Folders 1,2 & 3 OK.
>
> If I Right click, select Sharing & Security, Security tab I get the error
> message:
> Security
> You do not have permission to view or edit the current permission settings
> for RestoredFolder, but you can take ownership or change Audit settings.
>
> I then click - Advanced - Owner
> Listed is
> Administrator (mydomain\Administrator)
> Administrators (mydomain\Administrators)
>
> I then tick the box "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" - OK - OK
> the dialogs close but still access is denied.
>
> If I come back to this point and click Other Users or Groups
> Enter another user or Group for example:
> IanLarge (IanLarge@mydomain.local)
>
> Click OK - Apply I get the message:
> Security
> If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close
> and
> reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions.
> OK
>
> I click OK - OK - OK dialogs close.
>
> I go back and still get the same errors and the only listed owners are the
> Administrator(s) as above.
>
> I am logged in as the Administrator.
>
> I have tried this with different accoounts.
>
> I don't know what else I can do...
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chas
>
> ***************
> * Spectrum is Green *
> ***************
>
>
> "Roger Abell [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> What is it that you have tried ?
>> You should be able to access the properties of the root of the storage
>> area, access the Security tab, click Advanced, change to the Owner
>> tab, highlight Administrators in the list of potential owners and then
>> apply the change of ownership.
>> What is happening when you cannot take ownership?
>>
>> "Chas Large" <ChasLarge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:06376B0D-0349-4C60-B9EA-270F8AB55938@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi all,
>> > I have a W2003 SBS server.
>> > I copied a folder from a backup tape of our old NT4 server to this new
>> > server.
>> > Now I can't access, take ownership or delete the folder.
>> > On the old server the folder was owned by a single user.
>> > I have tried to replicate this users details in a new a/c on the new
>> > server
>> > but this still won't allow access to the folder.
>> >
>> > 1. Is there any way for me (the administrator) to take ownership
>> > outside
>> > of
>> > the security settings in Windows Explorer.
>> >
>> > 2. If not, how do I get the old NT4 server to become a BDC of the new
>> > domain
>> > so I can log on there with the old users credentials, browse to the
>> > file
>> > an
>> > change it's ownership. I have added the old server to the DNS of the
>> > new
>> > and
>> > can browse it from the new but not the other way.
>> >
>> > I tried looking this up but can't find an answer anywhere.
>> > --
>> > Cheers
>> > Chas
>> >
>> > ***************
>> > * Spectrum is Green *
>> > ***************
>>
>>
>>