Administrator password

Is it possible to press a combination of keys and reveal the user passwords?
I set myself up as administrator and my children as limited, the day after
my 14 year old son knew my password?
All he would say is that he pressed 2 or 3 keys and it shows the most
pressed keys or something like that, but he will not say which keys, he says
it's his secret.
I would like to know how he's doing this or at the very least how I can
prevent him from finding out my new password, without having to ban him from
the computer.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Phillip
Thu Nov 04 15:45:17 CST 2004


"PeeJay" <PeeJay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EB79B8BA-FE5C-4720-B966-0B5FD96597FD@microsoft.com...
> Is it possible to press a combination of keys and reveal the user
passwords?

No.

> I set myself up as administrator and my children as limited, the day after
> my 14 year old son knew my password?

I support spankings....

> All he would say is that he pressed 2 or 3 keys and it shows the most
> pressed keys or something like that, but he will not say which keys, he
says
> it's his secret.

He's lying. It is possible that he installed a keyboard logger tool on the
machine and used it to record your password when you last logged in. It is
also possible that he either simply watched over your shoulder while you
logged in,...or overheard you tell someone what it was,...or your password
is something obvious that he simply guessed.

After you finish with "The Belt", make your password a bunch or random
letters and numbers in a mix of both upper and lower case and special
characters (about 8 charateres long),...then see what happens.


--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

Steve
Thu Nov 04 15:55:42 CST 2004

You could also use a "passphrase" to achieve complexity and sufficient
password entropy....


"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:uAgpUerwEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> "PeeJay" <PeeJay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EB79B8BA-FE5C-4720-B966-0B5FD96597FD@microsoft.com...
>> Is it possible to press a combination of keys and reveal the user
> passwords?
>
> No.
>
>> I set myself up as administrator and my children as limited, the day
>> after
>> my 14 year old son knew my password?
>
> I support spankings....
>
>> All he would say is that he pressed 2 or 3 keys and it shows the most
>> pressed keys or something like that, but he will not say which keys, he
> says
>> it's his secret.
>
> He's lying. It is possible that he installed a keyboard logger tool on the
> machine and used it to record your password when you last logged in. It
> is
> also possible that he either simply watched over your shoulder while you
> logged in,...or overheard you tell someone what it was,...or your password
> is something obvious that he simply guessed.
>
> After you finish with "The Belt", make your password a bunch or random
> letters and numbers in a mix of both upper and lower case and special
> characters (about 8 charateres long),...then see what happens.
>
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>

Phillip
Thu Nov 04 16:04:04 CST 2004

Yes, those are good too, as long as it isn't some kind of "favorite phrase"
that you say all the time. Kids pickup pretty quick on things like that they
heard in the parent's speach all the time.


--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Steve Clark [MSFT]" <bogus@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ee5fHkrwEHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You could also use a "passphrase" to achieve complexity and sufficient
> password entropy....
>
>
> "Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
> news:uAgpUerwEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "PeeJay" <PeeJay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:EB79B8BA-FE5C-4720-B966-0B5FD96597FD@microsoft.com...
> >> Is it possible to press a combination of keys and reveal the user
> > passwords?
> >
> > No.
> >
> >> I set myself up as administrator and my children as limited, the day
> >> after
> >> my 14 year old son knew my password?
> >
> > I support spankings....
> >
> >> All he would say is that he pressed 2 or 3 keys and it shows the most
> >> pressed keys or something like that, but he will not say which keys, he
> > says
> >> it's his secret.
> >
> > He's lying. It is possible that he installed a keyboard logger tool on
the
> > machine and used it to record your password when you last logged in. It
> > is
> > also possible that he either simply watched over your shoulder while you
> > logged in,...or overheard you tell someone what it was,...or your
password
> > is something obvious that he simply guessed.
> >
> > After you finish with "The Belt", make your password a bunch or random
> > letters and numbers in a mix of both upper and lower case and special
> > characters (about 8 charateres long),...then see what happens.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> > www.wandtv.com
> >
> >
>
>

Steven
Thu Nov 04 17:58:06 CST 2004

There is widely available free software on the internet that can create a
bootable floppy or cdrom to allow the user to reset the built in
administrator account on the computer to gain administrator access. The link
below is such a source.

http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm

You can minimize that happening by configuring the cmos of the computer to
allow booting only form system hard drive, then password protecting the
cmos, and securing the computer case with a lock. Personally I had to only
threaten my son once about such and never had a problem. There is no
sequence of keys to show old passwords. --- Steve

"PeeJay" <PeeJay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EB79B8BA-FE5C-4720-B966-0B5FD96597FD@microsoft.com...
> Is it possible to press a combination of keys and reveal the user
> passwords?
> I set myself up as administrator and my children as limited, the day after
> my 14 year old son knew my password?
> All he would say is that he pressed 2 or 3 keys and it shows the most
> pressed keys or something like that, but he will not say which keys, he
> says
> it's his secret.
> I would like to know how he's doing this or at the very least how I can
> prevent him from finding out my new password, without having to ban him
> from
> the computer.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bigbruva
Thu Nov 04 19:12:04 CST 2004

What operating system are you running?

BB
"PeeJay" <PeeJay@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EB79B8BA-FE5C-4720-B966-0B5FD96597FD@microsoft.com...
> Is it possible to press a combination of keys and reveal the user
> passwords?
> I set myself up as administrator and my children as limited, the day after
> my 14 year old son knew my password?
> All he would say is that he pressed 2 or 3 keys and it shows the most
> pressed keys or something like that, but he will not say which keys, he
> says
> it's his secret.
> I would like to know how he's doing this or at the very least how I can
> prevent him from finding out my new password, without having to ban him
> from
> the computer.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.