I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the disk
in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy disk
image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty disk in
the tower.

Thanks for your help.

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Margolotta

Margolotta
Thu Feb 09 18:54:35 CST 2006

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:43:27 +0000, Otis Abernathy wrote
(in article <E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com>):

> I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the disk
> in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy disk
> image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty disk in

> the tower.
>
> Thanks for your help.

1) I fail to see what this has to do with Publisher.

2) The short answer is: you don't. It's a sure way to corrupt a document. You
save it to the hard drive, and then you copy across. When you wish to edit
the document, you copy it back to the hard drive, edit it, save it to the
hard drive and copy it back to the floppy.

3) Why are you still using floppies anyway? Surely all your systems have USB
ports - get yourself a pen drive!


Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Don

Don
Thu Feb 09 20:03:48 CST 2006

File
Save as

Then select the A drive and give the file a name and OK.


--
Don
Vancouver USA


"Otis Abernathy" <Otis Abernathy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com...
>I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the
>disk
> in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy
> disk
> image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty disk
> in
> the tower.
>
> Thanks for your help.



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Mike

Mike
Thu Feb 09 20:14:00 CST 2006

Sarah,

It's only fair! Good advice delivered in a nice manner.

I use floppies all the time. Writers give me a floppy with their article
on it, I open it and import it. I had my computers set up so I could
access Linda's HD and import articles from it. I thought I had a virus
and in the attempt to remove it, I screwed up something. :-(

Mike

Margolotta wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:43:27 +0000, Otis Abernathy wrote
> (in article <E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com>):
>
>
>>I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the disk
>>in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy disk
>>image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty disk in
>
>
>>the tower.
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>
>
> 1) I fail to see what this has to do with Publisher.
>
> 2) The short answer is: you don't. It's a sure way to corrupt a document. You
> save it to the hard drive, and then you copy across. When you wish to edit
> the document, you copy it back to the hard drive, edit it, save it to the
> hard drive and copy it back to the floppy.
>
> 3) Why are you still using floppies anyway? Surely all your systems have USB
> ports - get yourself a pen drive!
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by JoAnn

JoAnn
Thu Feb 09 20:35:45 CST 2006

You should *never* do that. It should be saved to the hard drive then copied
over to the "floopy".

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Don Schmidt" <Don Retired Engineer@PNB.1987> wrote in message
news:11unt3vlf2lid02@corp.supernews.com...
> File
> Save as
>
> Then select the A drive and give the file a name and OK.
>
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver USA
>
>
> "Otis Abernathy" <Otis Abernathy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com...
>>I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the
>>disk
>> in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy
>> disk
>> image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty
>> disk in
>> the tower.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>
>



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Don

Don
Thu Feb 09 22:41:47 CST 2006

I'm just a wild and crazy guy. I have no problems saving to or retrieving
from the floppy, RAM drive or my network hard drive. Being Don Corleone's
nephew has its privileges.<G>

Ciao, bella mia.

donato


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <jl_paules@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FK-dncbVWoacYXbeRVn-qw@suscom.com...
> You should *never* do that. It should be saved to the hard drive then
> copied over to the "floopy".
>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>
>
>
> "Don Schmidt" <Don Retired Engineer@PNB.1987> wrote in message
> news:11unt3vlf2lid02@corp.supernews.com...
>> File
>> Save as
>>
>> Then select the A drive and give the file a name and OK.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>> Vancouver USA
>>
>>
>> "Otis Abernathy" <Otis Abernathy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com...
>>>I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the
>>>disk
>>> in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy
>>> disk
>>> image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty
>>> disk in
>>> the tower.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>>
>
>



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Margolotta

Margolotta
Fri Feb 10 04:30:11 CST 2006

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:14:00 +0000, Mike Koewler wrote
(in article <5032$43ebf6e4$d8c4d7fe$560@FUSE.NET>):

> Sarah,
>
> It's only fair! Good advice delivered in a nice manner.
>
> I use floppies all the time. Writers give me a floppy with their article
> on it, I open it and import it. I had my computers set up so I could
> access Linda's HD and import articles from it. I thought I had a virus
> and in the attempt to remove it, I screwed up something. :-(
>
> Mike

What can I say, Michael? I'm 30 this year, I must be mellowing in my old
age... I do wish you, JoAnn, Don, Mary and Brian would stop top-posting,
though! ;o) <eg>

Mind you, it's a nice day here - the sun is singing, the birds are shining -
and the cat's just been sick on the hall carpet. It's brass monkeys though
(my BBC Weather widget is telling me it's currently -1C which I can't
believe!)

Macs haven't had floppies since time immemorial. The last Mac that had a
floppy drive was the Beige G3 (discontinued in 1998, IIRC). They've not had
one since.

And you're still married?! ;o) Or are you one of these weird blokes who feels
he has to name his computers...?

You're a prime candidate for a Mac you are. You wouldn't have to worry
about viruses then! I love not hearing the hard drive churning away every
morning as AVG does its daily scan. No spyware either.

How's Shaun, by the way...? Where is he at the moment?

Warmest wishes,

Margo







Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Don

Don
Fri Feb 10 05:55:55 CST 2006

30 huh?! Just a kid. I've got 35 years of Ma Bell under my belt some 19
years ago.

When one has that much time being programmed to put the most current
response at the front (top) of a pendoflex file, it's more difficult to
change the habit than trying to genuflect with your left knee going to the
floor.

Besides, it is expected you young'uns humor ol peoples.

--
Don
"May your shadow be found in happy places." (Native North American)


"Margolotta" <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C0121BCE0215BB91F060B550@news.ngroups.net...
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:14:00 +0000, Mike Koewler wrote
> (in article <5032$43ebf6e4$d8c4d7fe$560@FUSE.NET>):
>
>> Sarah,
>>
>> It's only fair! Good advice delivered in a nice manner.
>>
>> I use floppies all the time. Writers give me a floppy with their article
>> on it, I open it and import it. I had my computers set up so I could
>> access Linda's HD and import articles from it. I thought I had a virus
>> and in the attempt to remove it, I screwed up something. :-(
>>
>> Mike
>
> What can I say, Michael? I'm 30 this year, I must be mellowing in my old
> age... I do wish you, JoAnn, Don, Mary and Brian would stop top-posting,
> though! ;o) <eg>
>
> Mind you, it's a nice day here - the sun is singing, the birds are
> shining -
> and the cat's just been sick on the hall carpet. It's brass monkeys though
> (my BBC Weather widget is telling me it's currently -1C which I can't
> believe!)
>
> Macs haven't had floppies since time immemorial. The last Mac that had a
> floppy drive was the Beige G3 (discontinued in 1998, IIRC). They've not
> had
> one since.
>
> And you're still married?! ;o) Or are you one of these weird blokes who
> feels
> he has to name his computers...?
>
> You're a prime candidate for a Mac you are. You wouldn't have to worry
> about viruses then! I love not hearing the hard drive churning away every
> morning as AVG does its daily scan. No spyware either.
>
> How's Shaun, by the way...? Where is he at the moment?
>
> Warmest wishes,
>
> Margo
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Margolotta

Margolotta
Fri Feb 10 07:16:39 CST 2006

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:55:55 +0000, Don Schmidt wrote
(in article <11uovqae5uq48b@corp.supernews.com>):

> 30 huh?! Just a kid. I've got 35 years of Ma Bell under my belt some 19
> years ago.
>
> When one has that much time being programmed to put the most current
> response at the front (top) of a pendoflex file, it's more difficult to
> change the habit than trying to genuflect with your left knee going to the
> floor.
>
> Besides, it is expected you young'uns humor ol peoples.
>
>

Then stop using Outhouse Excrement and use a proper reader, one that places
the cursor at the end of the message automatically - or there's always (the
no longer maintained) OE QuoteFix. This is what I like about Hogwasher (the
reader I use on the Mac) it not only places the cursor at the end, it colour
codes the replies, so i know who's said what.

The only thing it doesn't support (and I've no idea why) is Unicode-only
characters (e.g. the degree symbol and fractions). I've written to the
developer (who is very good at supporting his software) to ask why, so
hopefully I'll know why soon enough...

You *WILL* be reprogrammed. I am Sarah of Borg. You will be assimilated.
Resistance is futile... ;o)

Ciao bello

Sarah


Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Ed

Ed
Fri Feb 10 07:23:48 CST 2006

Margolotta <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> was very recently
heard to utter:
> The only thing it doesn't support (and I've no idea why) is
> Unicode-only characters (e.g. the degree symbol and fractions).

The Degree symbol is ASCII 0176, and 0188, 0189, 0190 are ¼, ½, ¾
respectively. i.e. NOT Unicode-only.

HTH

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Mike

Mike
Fri Feb 10 08:09:51 CST 2006

Sarah,

Old habits die hard! Some replies in-line:

Margolotta wrote:

> What can I say, Michael? I'm 30 this year, I must be mellowing in my old
> age... I do wish you, JoAnn, Don, Mary and Brian would stop top-posting,
> though! ;o) <eg>
>
I'm not quite as old as Don but I'm on the downside of 51. To think back
in my college days, none of us actually expected to live to be 30.
> Mind you, it's a nice day here - the sun is singing, the birds are shining -
> and the cat's just been sick on the hall carpet. It's brass monkeys though
> (my BBC Weather widget is telling me it's currently -1C which I can't
> believe!)
We've got a forecast of 5 inches of snow this weekend. I don't like it,
but if it has to happen, the weekend is the best time for it. We've had
a really mild winter, except for one stint in what was still technically
autumn. Every day in January was warmer than the norm and a couple of
days it was 30 degrees above average. So far, February has been below
average.
>
> Macs haven't had floppies since time immemorial. The last Mac that had a
> floppy drive was the Beige G3 (discontinued in 1998, IIRC). They've not had
> one since.
>
> And you're still married?! ;o) Or are you one of these weird blokes who feels
> he has to name his computers...?
Still very happily married. When we started the paper, she was typing
between 20-30 articles a week. Now, it's about eight or nine. Most of
them are short, except for the council meetings she covers. If I get a
long article typed on paper, I scan it.
>
> You're a prime candidate for a Mac you are. You wouldn't have to worry
> about viruses then! I love not hearing the hard drive churning away every
> morning as AVG does its daily scan. No spyware either.
AVG scans mine at night, while I'm comfortably asleep!
>
> How's Shaun, by the way...? Where is he at the moment?
Actually, he just got out of the Navy on the 25th of January. They let
him out early because they are way overstaffed at his job. He's been
looking for work as a chef in a restaurant.

Warm wishes here also, Sarah. Hope life treats you kindly.

Mike
>
> Warmest wishes,
>
> Margo
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Mike

Mike
Fri Feb 10 08:12:39 CST 2006

Don,

yeah, I have a couple of writers who like to do that also. About once
every couple of months, I get a "The Disk in Drive A is not formatted.
Would you like to format it now?" error. Trust me, at some point one of
your very important files will not open.

Mike

Don Schmidt wrote:

> I'm just a wild and crazy guy. I have no problems saving to or retrieving
> from the floppy, RAM drive or my network hard drive. Being Don Corleone's
> nephew has its privileges.<G>
>
> Ciao, bella mia.
>
> donato
>
>
> "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <jl_paules@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:FK-dncbVWoacYXbeRVn-qw@suscom.com...
>
>>You should *never* do that. It should be saved to the hard drive then
>>copied over to the "floopy".
>>
>>--
>>
>>JoAnn Paules
>>MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>>
>>
>>
>>"Don Schmidt" <Don Retired Engineer@PNB.1987> wrote in message
>>news:11unt3vlf2lid02@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>File
>>>Save as
>>>
>>>Then select the A drive and give the file a name and OK.
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Don
>>>Vancouver USA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Otis Abernathy" <Otis Abernathy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>message news:E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>>I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the
>>>>disk
>>>>in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy
>>>>disk
>>>>image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty
>>>>disk in
>>>>the tower.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Margolotta

Margolotta
Fri Feb 10 10:00:33 CST 2006

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:23:48 +0000, Ed Bennett wrote
(in article <uXKq7UkLGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>):

> Margolotta <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> was very recently
> heard to utter:
>> The only thing it doesn't support (and I've no idea why) is
>> Unicode-only characters (e.g. the degree symbol and fractions).
>
> The Degree symbol is ASCII 0176, and 0188, 0189, 0190 are ¼, ½, ¾
> respectively. i.e. NOT Unicode-only.
>
> HTH
>
>

Eddie, for an Oxford alumnus you can be remarkably dense sometimes... ;o)
What is my computer...? What is the OS...? And what is that OS built on...?

ASCII seems to be a Windoze thing these days - Tiger does not appear to have
higher ASCII support. Don't believe me...? I'll send you a screen grab.

Under the Mac OS you don't hold down Alt and key in a number on the numerical
keypad to enter an ASCII character. You have to drag and drop it from the
Character Palette.

Under OS X they are Unicode only and my news-reader does not support them.

Have you ever used a Mac, Eddie...? No...? Then don't tell a Mac user they're
wrong.



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Ed

Ed
Fri Feb 10 12:28:04 CST 2006

Margolotta <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> was very recently
heard to utter:
> Eddie, for an Oxford alumnus you can be remarkably dense sometimes...

Alumnus? Not yet!

> ;o) What is my computer...? What is the OS...? And what is that OS
> built on...?

Can't say I've studied UNIX that much.

> ASCII seems to be a Windoze thing these days - Tiger does not appear
> to have higher ASCII support. Don't believe me...? I'll send you a
> screen grab.

But it's still not a Unicode-only character :oP

> Under the Mac OS you don't hold down Alt and key in a number on the
> numerical keypad to enter an ASCII character. You have to drag and
> drop it from the Character Palette.

Another fantastic Mac innovation.

> Under OS X they are Unicode only and my news-reader does not support
> them.

Poor thing. Even OE, the worst of all newsreaders, supports them, and yet
yours doesn't.

> Have you ever used a Mac, Eddie...? No...? Then don't tell a Mac user
> they're wrong.

Excuse me? I've been using Macs in the Physics practical lab since the
beginning of last term.

There's a difference between "Unicode-only" and "Unicode-only on my
platform".

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by JoAnn

JoAnn
Fri Feb 10 20:28:49 CST 2006

Sweetie,

I've been a top poster for about 10 year now. I actually prefer it. It
drives me nuts to have to scroll down until I read a response. It's like
having to read the last third of Chapter 1 before I can get to Chapter 2.
;-)


--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Margolotta" <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C0121BCE0215BB91F060B550@news.ngroups.net...
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:14:00 +0000, Mike Koewler wrote
> (in article <5032$43ebf6e4$d8c4d7fe$560@FUSE.NET>):
>
>> Sarah,
>>
>> It's only fair! Good advice delivered in a nice manner.
>>
>> I use floppies all the time. Writers give me a floppy with their article
>> on it, I open it and import it. I had my computers set up so I could
>> access Linda's HD and import articles from it. I thought I had a virus
>> and in the attempt to remove it, I screwed up something. :-(
>>
>> Mike
>
> What can I say, Michael? I'm 30 this year, I must be mellowing in my old
> age... I do wish you, JoAnn, Don, Mary and Brian would stop top-posting,
> though! ;o) <eg>
>
> Mind you, it's a nice day here - the sun is singing, the birds are
> shining -
> and the cat's just been sick on the hall carpet. It's brass monkeys though
> (my BBC Weather widget is telling me it's currently -1C which I can't
> believe!)
>
> Macs haven't had floppies since time immemorial. The last Mac that had a
> floppy drive was the Beige G3 (discontinued in 1998, IIRC). They've not
> had
> one since.
>
> And you're still married?! ;o) Or are you one of these weird blokes who
> feels
> he has to name his computers...?
>
> You're a prime candidate for a Mac you are. You wouldn't have to worry
> about viruses then! I love not hearing the hard drive churning away every
> morning as AVG does its daily scan. No spyware either.
>
> How's Shaun, by the way...? Where is he at the moment?
>
> Warmest wishes,
>
> Margo
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 01:00:26 CST 2006

The correct term is a travel drive. not a pen drive where are you from? the
UK?

"Margolotta" wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:43:27 +0000, Otis Abernathy wrote
> (in article <E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com>):
>
> > I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the disk
> > in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy disk
> > image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty disk in
>
> > the tower.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
>
> 1) I fail to see what this has to do with Publisher.
>
> 2) The short answer is: you don't. It's a sure way to corrupt a document. You
> save it to the hard drive, and then you copy across. When you wish to edit
> the document, you copy it back to the hard drive, edit it, save it to the
> hard drive and copy it back to the floppy.
>
> 3) Why are you still using floppies anyway? Surely all your systems have USB
> ports - get yourself a pen drive!
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 01:01:26 CST 2006

Nice manner? Where do you kids get your manners from no a days the MTV?

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> Sarah,
>
> It's only fair! Good advice delivered in a nice manner.
>
> I use floppies all the time. Writers give me a floppy with their article
> on it, I open it and import it. I had my computers set up so I could
> access Linda's HD and import articles from it. I thought I had a virus
> and in the attempt to remove it, I screwed up something. :-(
>
> Mike
>
> Margolotta wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:43:27 +0000, Otis Abernathy wrote
> > (in article <E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com>):
> >
> >
> >>I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the disk
> >>in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy disk
> >>image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty disk in
> >
> >
> >>the tower.
> >>
> >>Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> > 1) I fail to see what this has to do with Publisher.
> >
> > 2) The short answer is: you don't. It's a sure way to corrupt a document. You
> > save it to the hard drive, and then you copy across. When you wish to edit
> > the document, you copy it back to the hard drive, edit it, save it to the
> > hard drive and copy it back to the floppy.
> >
> > 3) Why are you still using floppies anyway? Surely all your systems have USB
> > ports - get yourself a pen drive!
> >
>

RE: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 01:02:26 CST 2006

As long as the disk is properly formatted and the file is under 1.44 mb's it
should save fine, even in publisher.

Sorry for the rudness of the forum. It is public and any dog, rat, or
monkey can get in.

Granny 3.1

"Otis Abernathy" wrote:

> I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the disk
> in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy disk
> image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty disk in
> the tower.
>
> Thanks for your help.

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 01:28:14 CST 2006

Get a hotel or met her at her whorehouse I'm sure you can afford the tupence
it would cost.


"Don Schmidt" wrote:

> 30 huh?! Just a kid. I've got 35 years of Ma Bell under my belt some 19
> years ago.
>
> When one has that much time being programmed to put the most current
> response at the front (top) of a pendoflex file, it's more difficult to
> change the habit than trying to genuflect with your left knee going to the
> floor.
>
> Besides, it is expected you young'uns humor ol peoples.
>
> --
> Don
> "May your shadow be found in happy places." (Native North American)
>
>
> "Margolotta" <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C0121BCE0215BB91F060B550@news.ngroups.net...
> > On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:14:00 +0000, Mike Koewler wrote
> > (in article <5032$43ebf6e4$d8c4d7fe$560@FUSE.NET>):
> >
> >> Sarah,
> >>
> >> It's only fair! Good advice delivered in a nice manner.
> >>
> >> I use floppies all the time. Writers give me a floppy with their article
> >> on it, I open it and import it. I had my computers set up so I could
> >> access Linda's HD and import articles from it. I thought I had a virus
> >> and in the attempt to remove it, I screwed up something. :-(
> >>
> >> Mike
> >
> > What can I say, Michael? I'm 30 this year, I must be mellowing in my old
> > age... I do wish you, JoAnn, Don, Mary and Brian would stop top-posting,
> > though! ;o) <eg>
> >
> > Mind you, it's a nice day here - the sun is singing, the birds are
> > shining -
> > and the cat's just been sick on the hall carpet. It's brass monkeys though
> > (my BBC Weather widget is telling me it's currently -1C which I can't
> > believe!)
> >
> > Macs haven't had floppies since time immemorial. The last Mac that had a
> > floppy drive was the Beige G3 (discontinued in 1998, IIRC). They've not
> > had
> > one since.
> >
> > And you're still married?! ;o) Or are you one of these weird blokes who
> > feels
> > he has to name his computers...?
> >
> > You're a prime candidate for a Mac you are. You wouldn't have to worry
> > about viruses then! I love not hearing the hard drive churning away every
> > morning as AVG does its daily scan. No spyware either.
> >
> > How's Shaun, by the way...? Where is he at the moment?
> >
> > Warmest wishes,
> >
> > Margo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 01:31:15 CST 2006

A MAC user is wrong for two reasons, one they aren't an expert on Windows
products and Two MAC's went the way of hot pants and platform shoes, join the
21st century would you. Ed knows more in his pinkie finger than you do in
that whole (shall we step on a cliff and call it a ) brain. Who did you
borrow it from anyway? Frankenstein's aborted child?

Way to go ED!!!!!!!

"Margolotta" wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:23:48 +0000, Ed Bennett wrote
> (in article <uXKq7UkLGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>):
>
> > Margolotta <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> was very recently
> > heard to utter:
> >> The only thing it doesn't support (and I've no idea why) is
> >> Unicode-only characters (e.g. the degree symbol and fractions).
> >
> > The Degree symbol is ASCII 0176, and 0188, 0189, 0190 are ¼, ½, ¾
> > respectively. i.e. NOT Unicode-only.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
>
> Eddie, for an Oxford alumnus you can be remarkably dense sometimes... ;o)
> What is my computer...? What is the OS...? And what is that OS built on...?
>
> ASCII seems to be a Windoze thing these days - Tiger does not appear to have
> higher ASCII support. Don't believe me...? I'll send you a screen grab.
>
> Under the Mac OS you don't hold down Alt and key in a number on the numerical
> keypad to enter an ASCII character. You have to drag and drop it from the
> Character Palette.
>
> Under OS X they are Unicode only and my news-reader does not support them.
>
> Have you ever used a Mac, Eddie...? No...? Then don't tell a Mac user they're
> wrong.
>
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 01:35:27 CST 2006

Jeez, you can't even spell WINDOWS right. Windoz? What drugs are you on
sweetie? Perhaps you shouldn't take them anymore. They seem to be fogging
your borrowed brain.


"Margolotta" wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:23:48 +0000, Ed Bennett wrote
> (in article <uXKq7UkLGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>):
>
> > Margolotta <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> was very recently
> > heard to utter:
> >> The only thing it doesn't support (and I've no idea why) is
> >> Unicode-only characters (e.g. the degree symbol and fractions).
> >
> > The Degree symbol is ASCII 0176, and 0188, 0189, 0190 are ¼, ½, ¾
> > respectively. i.e. NOT Unicode-only.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
>
> Eddie, for an Oxford alumnus you can be remarkably dense sometimes... ;o)
> What is my computer...? What is the OS...? And what is that OS built on...?
>
> ASCII seems to be a Windoze thing these days - Tiger does not appear to have
> higher ASCII support. Don't believe me...? I'll send you a screen grab.
>
> Under the Mac OS you don't hold down Alt and key in a number on the numerical
> keypad to enter an ASCII character. You have to drag and drop it from the
> Character Palette.
>
> Under OS X they are Unicode only and my news-reader does not support them.
>
> Have you ever used a Mac, Eddie...? No...? Then don't tell a Mac user they're
> wrong.
>
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 01:36:03 CST 2006

Probably came from a MAC. Mac's aren't compatible with Windows. As we all
know some floppies even saved properly can become corrupted. It's rare but
it happens. And even then 99% of the time it the user who saved its fault.

Toodles

"Mike Koewler" wrote:

> Don,
>
> yeah, I have a couple of writers who like to do that also. About once
> every couple of months, I get a "The Disk in Drive A is not formatted.
> Would you like to format it now?" error. Trust me, at some point one of
> your very important files will not open.
>
> Mike
>
> Don Schmidt wrote:
>
> > I'm just a wild and crazy guy. I have no problems saving to or retrieving
> > from the floppy, RAM drive or my network hard drive. Being Don Corleone's
> > nephew has its privileges.<G>
> >
> > Ciao, bella mia.
> >
> > donato
> >
> >
> > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <jl_paules@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:FK-dncbVWoacYXbeRVn-qw@suscom.com...
> >
> >>You should *never* do that. It should be saved to the hard drive then
> >>copied over to the "floopy".
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>JoAnn Paules
> >>MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Don Schmidt" <Don Retired Engineer@PNB.1987> wrote in message
> >>news:11unt3vlf2lid02@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>>File
> >>>Save as
> >>>
> >>>Then select the A drive and give the file a name and OK.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Don
> >>>Vancouver USA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Otis Abernathy" <Otis Abernathy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >>>message news:E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com...
> >>>
> >>>>I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the
> >>>>disk
> >>>>in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy
> >>>>disk
> >>>>image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty
> >>>>disk in
> >>>>the tower.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks for your help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Ed

Ed
Sat Feb 11 06:20:06 CST 2006

Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
to utter:
> The correct term is a travel drive. not a pen drive where are you
> from?

I've never heard it called a travel drive. I have heard the terms "USB pen
drive", "USB flash drive", "USB keyring", "USB memory key", and a couple of
others that escape me.

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Ed

Ed
Sat Feb 11 06:22:22 CST 2006

Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
to utter:
> As long as the disk is properly formatted and the file is under 1.44
> mb's it should save fine, even in publisher.

No it shouldn't.

The maximum capacity of a formatted floppy disk is ~1.38MB without disk
compression.

It has long been known and shown by people far more knowledgeable than you
that Publisher, for reasons of its own, will not always save to removeable
media correctly.

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Margolotta

Margolotta
Sat Feb 11 08:01:51 CST 2006

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:31:15 +0000, Granny 3.1 wrote
(in article <C6756CE1-31DB-4CBB-896A-EFEB917F41D8@microsoft.com>):

> A MAC user


What the fuck is a 'Media Access Control' user? Or did you mean a 'Migration
Authorisation Code' user? either way, it doesn't make sense. It's 'Mac'
(that's capital 'M' lowercase 'a' and 'c' - it is *NOT* an acronym, fuckwit)


is wrong for two reasons, one they aren't an expert on Windows

Really...? I've had my Mac for seven months - prior to that I was using
Windoze (misspelling deliberate) for 20 years. I think that rather does make
me "an expert on Windows" [sic]


> products and Two MAC's

It's 'Macs' and plurals don't require apostrophes, moron.

went the way of hot pants and platform shoes, join the
> 21st century would you.


Questions end in question marks, idiot. I joined the 21st century in July
last year when I bought this Mac. I'd bet everything I have that you've never
even touched a Macintosh.

Ed knows more in his pinkie finger than you do in
> that whole (shall we step on a cliff and call it a ) brain.

Why don't you do us all a favour and step *OFF* a cliff? So that's why he
agreed with me then is it...? (see Activating on home and office computer"
and he told *YOU* (yes *YOU*) that *YOU* were *WRONG*?

Who did you
> borrow it from anyway?

Borrow what from?


Frankenstein's aborted child?

Dr Frankenstein was a bachelor (IIRC). He was also *MALE*. Now, I suggest you
learn about how the reproductive system works because, you cretinous moron,
men can't get pregnant and, therefore, it would be difficult for a *MAN* to
have an abortion.

The monster did *NOT* have a name (I assume that's what you meant) everyone
knows that. There are things that live under rocks more intelligent than
you...


I have more intelligence in my little toenail than you have in your entire
being.




Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Don

Don
Sat Feb 11 08:02:21 CST 2006

Ed,

I wonder if it's a AC line voltage cause. Spike, brown out, or some other
anomaly. When you think that files are sent via, phone lines, radio, light
wave, digital and analog carrier around the world without problems, up jumps
the devil when saving from one end of the computer box to the other end of
the computer box.

Do you know of any instances where there was a corruption of a file when the
computer was protected by an UPS?


--
Don
Vancouver USA


"Ed Bennett" <the_nerd@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:O6UDSXwLGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
> to utter:
>> As long as the disk is properly formatted and the file is under 1.44
>> mb's it should save fine, even in publisher.
>
> No it shouldn't.
>
> The maximum capacity of a formatted floppy disk is ~1.38MB without disk
> compression.
>
> It has long been known and shown by people far more knowledgeable than you
> that Publisher, for reasons of its own, will not always save to removeable
> media correctly.
>
> --
> Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
>



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Margolotta

Margolotta
Sat Feb 11 08:04:06 CST 2006

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:35:27 +0000, Granny 3.1 wrote
(in article <A42957A5-15D0-44D8-8FB8-914835CC29CE@microsoft.com>):

> Jeez, you can't even spell WINDOWS right. Windoz? What drugs are you on
> sweetie? Perhaps you shouldn't take them anymore. They seem to be fogging
> your borrowed brain.


The misspelling was deliberate, dear. I wish I did have Dr. Frankenstein's
brain - he was a genius (madder than a roomful of hatters, but a genius).

Now, do piss off. Don't let the trapdoor hit you on the way down and watch
out for the crocodiles.



Re: RE: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Margolotta

Margolotta
Sat Feb 11 08:07:09 CST 2006

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:02:26 +0000, Granny 3.1 wrote
(in article <DD7E35E8-8DFB-449F-82C9-925C148995AA@microsoft.com>):

> As long as the disk is properly formatted and the file is under 1.44 mb's it
> should save fine, even in publisher.
>
> Sorry for the rudness of the forum. It is public and any dog, rat, or
> monkey can get in.


Monkey?! Don't get ideas above your station!


Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 12:06:27 CST 2006

Funny, when I plug in my 2.0 gb drive it reads F:Travel Drive on My Computer.
I'd screen capture it to prove it but I don't have to prove my self. Go to
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=travel+drives
notice only the first one is called a pen drive, and it only holds 64 mbs
the rest....42 before I got tired of counting (page 4) said "Travel Drives"
perhaps someone besides you might be right. Just a thought. I own 3, I know
what they are called, I'm not that senile yet. But for you people who don't
believe copy and paste the link above and start counting.


"Ed Bennett" wrote:

> Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
> to utter:
> > The correct term is a travel drive. not a pen drive where are you
> > from?
>
> I've never heard it called a travel drive. I have heard the terms "USB pen
> drive", "USB flash drive", "USB keyring", "USB memory key", and a couple of
> others that escape me.
>
> --
> Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
>
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 12:14:27 CST 2006

Ed Bennent <Ed Bennett@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
> to utter:I've never heard it called a travel drive. I have heard the terms "USB pen
drive", "USB flash drive", "USB keyring", "USB memory key", and a couple of
others that escape me."

Even on your Memorex site it discontinued the Flash drives and you'll notice
at the bottom of the page there are now 12 count 'em 12 travel drives. Man,
sonny if a old granny like me can keep up with technology terms.....there are
two sites right there and it took me all of 10 seconds to prove you
wrong...again...

"Ed Bennett" wrote:

> Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
> to utter:
> > The correct term is a travel drive. not a pen drive where are you
> > from?
>
> I've never heard it called a travel drive. I have heard the terms "USB pen
> drive", "USB flash drive", "USB keyring", "USB memory key", and a couple of
> others that escape me.
>
> --
> Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
>
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Don

Don
Sat Feb 11 15:06:53 CST 2006

Seems Memorex calls theirs "Travel Drive" while SandDisk calls theirs "Flash
Drives". Must be some kind of marketing thing.


--
Don
"May your shadow be found in happy places." (Native North American)


"Granny 3.1" <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A091B8D9-C33F-4E5E-A04F-E0FB4ACB1659@microsoft.com...
> Ed Bennent <Ed Bennett@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
>> to utter:I've never heard it called a travel drive. I have heard the
>> terms "USB pen
> drive", "USB flash drive", "USB keyring", "USB memory key", and a couple
> of
> others that escape me."
>
> Even on your Memorex site it discontinued the Flash drives and you'll
> notice
> at the bottom of the page there are now 12 count 'em 12 travel drives.
> Man,
> sonny if a old granny like me can keep up with technology terms.....there
> are
> two sites right there and it took me all of 10 seconds to prove you
> wrong...again...
>
> "Ed Bennett" wrote:
>
>> Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
>> to utter:
>> > The correct term is a travel drive. not a pen drive where are you
>> > from?
>>
>> I've never heard it called a travel drive. I have heard the terms "USB
>> pen
>> drive", "USB flash drive", "USB keyring", "USB memory key", and a couple
>> of
>> others that escape me.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
>>
>>
>>



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Granny31

Granny31
Sat Feb 11 15:44:27 CST 2006

3½-inch: Floppy is something of a misnomer for these disks, as they are
encased in a rigid envelope. Despite their small size, microfloppies have a
larger storage capacity than their cousins -- from 400K to 1.4MB of data. The
most common sizes for PCs are 720K (double-density) and 1.44MB
(high-density). That's from Dell.com quote your sources. You couldn't admit
being wrong about the travel drive now quote your source they went from
1.38MB to 1.44MB in the 90's

"Ed Bennett" wrote:

> Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
> to utter:
> > As long as the disk is properly formatted and the file is under 1.44
> > mb's it should save fine, even in publisher.
>
> No it shouldn't.
>
> The maximum capacity of a formatted floppy disk is ~1.38MB without disk
> compression.
>
> It has long been known and shown by people far more knowledgeable than you
> that Publisher, for reasons of its own, will not always save to removeable
> media correctly.
>
> --
> Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
>
>
>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Ed

Ed
Sat Feb 11 16:34:14 CST 2006

Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
to utter:
> Funny, when I plug in my 2.0 gb drive it reads F:Travel Drive on My
> Computer.

Perhaps "Travel drive" is a brand name?

>I'd screen capture it to prove it but I don't have to prove
> my self. Go to http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=travel+drives
> notice only the first one is called a pen drive, and it only holds 64
> mbs the rest....42 before I got tired of counting (page 4) said
> "Travel Drives" perhaps someone besides you might be right.

Of course searching for travel drives will return more "travel drives" than
"flash drives"

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22travel+drive%22&word2=%22flash+drive%22

Flash drive beats travel drive 55 to 1.
Pen drive beats travel drive 19 to 1.
Usb key beats travel drive 10 to 1.

> Even on your Memorex site it discontinued the Flash drives

MY Memorex site? Huh?

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Ed

Ed
Sat Feb 11 16:36:25 CST 2006

Granny 3.1 <Granny31@discussions.microsoft.com> was very recently heard
to utter:
> 3½-inch: Floppy is something of a misnomer for these disks, as they
> are encased in a rigid envelope.

The disk platters themselves are floppy. In a hard drive, the platters are
rigid metal.

> Despite their small size,
> microfloppies have a larger storage capacity than their cousins --
> from 400K to 1.4MB of data. The most common sizes for PCs are 720K
> (double-density) and 1.44MB (high-density). That's from Dell.com
> quote your sources.

All high-density floppies quote their capacity as 1.44MB. This is their
UNFORMATTED capacity, and is quoted to make the numbers look larger.

Once formatted, the File Allocation Table will take up a certain amount of
space, and so the largest filesize storable on the disk will decrease.
Simply format a disk in Windows and look at the "free space" in drive
properties.

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Mike

Mike
Sat Feb 11 17:38:59 CST 2006

They came from Windows machines.

Mike

Granny 3.1 wrote:

> Probably came from a MAC. Mac's aren't compatible with Windows. As we all
> know some floppies even saved properly can become corrupted. It's rare but
> it happens. And even then 99% of the time it the user who saved its fault.
>
> Toodles
>
> "Mike Koewler" wrote:
>
>
>>Don,
>>
>>yeah, I have a couple of writers who like to do that also. About once
>>every couple of months, I get a "The Disk in Drive A is not formatted.
>>Would you like to format it now?" error. Trust me, at some point one of
>>your very important files will not open.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>Don Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm just a wild and crazy guy. I have no problems saving to or retrieving
>>>from the floppy, RAM drive or my network hard drive. Being Don Corleone's
>>>nephew has its privileges.<G>
>>>
>>>Ciao, bella mia.
>>>
>>>donato
>>>
>>>
>>>"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <jl_paules@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:FK-dncbVWoacYXbeRVn-qw@suscom.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>You should *never* do that. It should be saved to the hard drive then
>>>>copied over to the "floopy".
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>JoAnn Paules
>>>>MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Don Schmidt" <Don Retired Engineer@PNB.1987> wrote in message
>>>>news:11unt3vlf2lid02@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>File
>>>>>Save as
>>>>>
>>>>>Then select the A drive and give the file a name and OK.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Don
>>>>>Vancouver USA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Otis Abernathy" <Otis Abernathy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>>>message news:E6D62413-479A-4890-892E-C3DAF51DE5AE@microsoft.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have typed an important document in Word 2000 and when I click on the
>>>>>>disk
>>>>>>in the task bar or in the file "pull down" window which has the floppy
>>>>>>disk
>>>>>>image, nothing happens...it does not save even though I have an empty
>>>>>>disk in
>>>>>>the tower.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Rob

Rob
Sun Feb 12 00:27:58 CST 2006

Me too. Better a top poster than a bottom feeder.



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <jl_paules@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xJOdndgv3NJ81nDenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@suscom.com...
| Sweetie,
|
| I've been a top poster for about 10 year now. I actually prefer it. It
| drives me nuts to have to scroll down until I read a response. It's like
| having to read the last third of Chapter 1 before I can get to Chapter 2.
| ;-)
|
|
| --
|
| JoAnn Paules
| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
|
|
|
| "Margolotta" <naggingdoubt@thebackofyourmind.invalid> wrote in message
| news:0001HW.C0121BCE0215BB91F060B550@news.ngroups.net...
| > On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:14:00 +0000, Mike Koewler wrote
| > (in article <5032$43ebf6e4$d8c4d7fe$560@FUSE.NET>):
| >
| >> Sarah,
| >>
| >> It's only fair! Good advice delivered in a nice manner.
| >>
| >> I use floppies all the time. Writers give me a floppy with their
article
| >> on it, I open it and import it. I had my computers set up so I could
| >> access Linda's HD and import articles from it. I thought I had a virus
| >> and in the attempt to remove it, I screwed up something. :-(
| >>
| >> Mike
| >
| > What can I say, Michael? I'm 30 this year, I must be mellowing in my old
| > age... I do wish you, JoAnn, Don, Mary and Brian would stop top-posting,
| > though! ;o) <eg>
| >
| > Mind you, it's a nice day here - the sun is singing, the birds are
| > shining -
| > and the cat's just been sick on the hall carpet. It's brass monkeys
though
| > (my BBC Weather widget is telling me it's currently -1C which I can't
| > believe!)
| >
| > Macs haven't had floppies since time immemorial. The last Mac that had a
| > floppy drive was the Beige G3 (discontinued in 1998, IIRC). They've not
| > had
| > one since.
| >
| > And you're still married?! ;o) Or are you one of these weird blokes who
| > feels
| > he has to name his computers...?
| >
| > You're a prime candidate for a Mac you are. You wouldn't have to worry
| > about viruses then! I love not hearing the hard drive churning away
every
| > morning as AVG does its daily scan. No spyware either.
| >
| > How's Shaun, by the way...? Where is he at the moment?
| >
| > Warmest wishes,
| >
| > Margo
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by sure

sure
Sun Feb 12 17:55:13 CST 2006

Margolotta wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:35:27 +0000, Granny 3.1 wrote
> (in article <A42957A5-15D0-44D8-8FB8-914835CC29CE@microsoft.com>):
>
>> Jeez, you can't even spell WINDOWS right. Windoz? What drugs are you on
>> sweetie? Perhaps you shouldn't take them anymore. They seem to be fogging
>> your borrowed brain.
>
>
> The misspelling was deliberate, dear. I wish I did have Dr. Frankenstein's
> brain - he was a genius (madder than a roomful of hatters, but a genius).
>
>

Well, You certainly have the madder than a roomful of hatters part!

Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by Ed

Ed
Sun Feb 12 19:46:49 CST 2006

sure <not@sure.con> was very recently heard to utter:
> Well, You certainly have the madder than a roomful of hatters part!

Don't we all?

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher



Re: How do I save a word document to a floopy disk? by JoAnn

JoAnn
Sun Feb 12 20:17:11 CST 2006

I do! I do!! And I'm one of the saner ones in my family. ;-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Ed Bennett" <the_nerd@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23fnnd9DMGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> sure <not@sure.con> was very recently heard to utter:
>> Well, You certainly have the madder than a roomful of hatters part!
>
> Don't we all?
>
> --
> Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
>