Hi there,

I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting to grips
with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy way of adjusting
the frame around a picture.

On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the frame
shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found of doing this
is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing the wrap points.

This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.

Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.

Thanks in advance

Re: Picture frame box by John

John
Sat Mar 08 13:28:53 CST 2008

Paul wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
>
> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
> the wrap points.
>
> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
>
> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
>
> Thanks in advance
=================================
I give up...what frame are you referring to?

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk



Re: Picture frame box by Paul

Paul
Sat Mar 08 13:48:00 CST 2008

Hi John thanks for the reply

When you put a picture into a publisher document you get a rectangular box
around the actual picture with 8 dots on it. In the old publisher you could
click a button and the box would shrink to the actual size of the picture and
not be a rectangle.

I don't want to wrap text around the picture or anything, i would just like
to find an easy way to shrink the frame without manually editting the wrap
points on the frame.

I hope i've explained this a little bit better.

Thanks in advance again.

"John Inzer" wrote:

> Paul wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
> > to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
> > way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
> >
> > On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
> > frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
> > of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
> > the wrap points.
> >
> > This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
> >
> > Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> =================================
> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
>
> --
>
> John Inzer
> Digital Media MVP
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
>
>
>

Re: Picture frame box by JoAnn

JoAnn
Sat Mar 08 13:49:10 CST 2008

In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.

Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
skip the frame part. ;-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
news:%23aSjjKVgIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Paul wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
>> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
>> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
>>
>> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
>> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
>> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
>> the wrap points.
>>
>> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
>>
>> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
> =================================
> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
>
> --
>
> John Inzer
> Digital Media MVP
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
>
>


Re: Picture frame box by Mary

Mary
Sat Mar 08 14:03:04 CST 2008

If you insert a .wmf picture into your publication, click the dog icon on the
picture toolbar, click *edit wrap points*, it will automatically set the
points. If you then click tight, Publisher will query. Only bitmaps do you have
to manually set the wrap points.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:675128D7-CDC8-4654-9037-6C521749A197@microsoft.com...
> Hi John thanks for the reply
>
> When you put a picture into a publisher document you get a rectangular box
> around the actual picture with 8 dots on it. In the old publisher you could
> click a button and the box would shrink to the actual size of the picture and
> not be a rectangle.
>
> I don't want to wrap text around the picture or anything, i would just like
> to find an easy way to shrink the frame without manually editting the wrap
> points on the frame.
>
> I hope i've explained this a little bit better.
>
> Thanks in advance again.
>
> "John Inzer" wrote:
>
>> Paul wrote:
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
>> > to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
>> > way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
>> >
>> > On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
>> > frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
>> > of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
>> > the wrap points.
>> >
>> > This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
>> >
>> > Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance
>> =================================
>> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Inzer
>> Digital Media MVP
>>
>> Notice
>> This is not tech support
>> I am a volunteer
>>
>> Solutions that work for
>> me may not work for you
>>
>> Proceed at your own risk
>>
>>
>>



Re: Picture frame box by Carrie

Carrie
Sat Mar 08 18:30:53 CST 2008


"JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
news:55E5913E-F423-4298-8FC5-11F04382D4A4@microsoft.com...
> In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.
>
> Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
> skip the frame part. ;-)

That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
(LOL)
I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if
an actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border
settings.

I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it right
and add extra to the answer.

>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>
>
>
> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
> news:%23aSjjKVgIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Paul wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
>>> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
>>> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
>>>
>>> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
>>> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
>>> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
>>> the wrap points.
>>>
>>> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
>>>
>>> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>> =================================
>> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Inzer
>> Digital Media MVP
>>
>> Notice
>> This is not tech support
>> I am a volunteer
>>
>> Solutions that work for
>> me may not work for you
>>
>> Proceed at your own risk
>>
>>
>



Re: Picture frame box by John

John
Sat Mar 08 19:08:56 CST 2008

Paul wrote:
> Hi John thanks for the reply
>
> When you put a picture into a publisher document you get a
> rectangular box around the actual picture with 8 dots on it. In the
> old publisher you could click a button and the box would shrink to
> the actual size of the picture and not be a rectangle.
>
> I don't want to wrap text around the picture or anything, i would
> just like to find an easy way to shrink the frame without manually
> editting the wrap points on the frame.
>
> I hope i've explained this a little bit better.
>
> Thanks in advance again.
==========================
Interesting...when I insert a picture
into a Publisher document I go to...

Insert / Picture / From File...

I don't see a frame...all I see is the
picture. There are 8 dots...(handles)
that can be used to resize the image.
But I wouldn't call it a frame. And of
course you can reposition the picture
by dragging the 4 way arrow or nudge
it with the arrow keys.

Are you referring to a picture of an
irregular shape like a cutout and the
unwanted background is white?

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk



Re: Picture frame box by JoAnn

JoAnn
Sat Mar 08 22:51:25 CST 2008

You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump.
It's nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Carrie" <starchild@kingcon.com> wrote in message
news:uswBYzXgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
> news:55E5913E-F423-4298-8FC5-11F04382D4A4@microsoft.com...
>> In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.
>>
>> Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
>> skip the frame part. ;-)
>
> That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
> (LOL)
> I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
> I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if
> an actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border
> settings.
>
> I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it
> right and add extra to the answer.
>
>>
>> --
>>
>> JoAnn Paules
>> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>>
>>
>>
>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
>> news:%23aSjjKVgIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
>>>> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
>>>> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
>>>>
>>>> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
>>>> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
>>>> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
>>>> the wrap points.
>>>>
>>>> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
>>>>
>>>> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>> =================================
>>> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> John Inzer
>>> Digital Media MVP
>>>
>>> Notice
>>> This is not tech support
>>> I am a volunteer
>>>
>>> Solutions that work for
>>> me may not work for you
>>>
>>> Proceed at your own risk
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


Re: Picture frame box by Mary

Mary
Sun Mar 09 06:36:14 CDT 2008

In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
about.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
news:0D9DFDA0-F229-495E-AF55-752A800C1625@microsoft.com...
> You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump. It's
> nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)
>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>
>
>
> "Carrie" <starchild@kingcon.com> wrote in message
> news:uswBYzXgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
>> news:55E5913E-F423-4298-8FC5-11F04382D4A4@microsoft.com...
>>> In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.
>>>
>>> Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
>>> skip the frame part. ;-)
>>
>> That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
>> (LOL)
>> I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
>> I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if an
>> actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border settings.
>>
>> I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it right
>> and add extra to the answer.
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> JoAnn Paules
>>> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>>> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
>>> news:%23aSjjKVgIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
>>>>> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
>>>>> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
>>>>>
>>>>> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
>>>>> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
>>>>> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
>>>>> the wrap points.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>> =================================
>>>> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> John Inzer
>>>> Digital Media MVP
>>>>
>>>> Notice
>>>> This is not tech support
>>>> I am a volunteer
>>>>
>>>> Solutions that work for
>>>> me may not work for you
>>>>
>>>> Proceed at your own risk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>



Re: Picture frame box by Paul

Paul
Sun Mar 09 07:07:00 CDT 2008

Hi again John,

I'm probably not using the correct terms here but i think John is getting
the closest to what i'm trying to mean. I can get an image into publisher but
the image is an irregular shape, for example a bike saddle. When i put this
image into publisher it isn't the shape of the saddle, it's the saddle
surrounded by a rectangular box. What i'm trying to do is to make this
rectangular box the same shape as the image i'm inserting into the document.

On old publisher there used to be an icon which you clicked that did this
automatically now the only way to get close to this is by manually changing
the edit points.

I tried clicking the dog and then clicking tight which i had hoped would
work but the only thing that happened was the box turned red.

I'm sorry i can't explain myself better.

"John Inzer" wrote:

> Paul wrote:
> > Hi John thanks for the reply
> >
> > When you put a picture into a publisher document you get a
> > rectangular box around the actual picture with 8 dots on it. In the
> > old publisher you could click a button and the box would shrink to
> > the actual size of the picture and not be a rectangle.
> >
> > I don't want to wrap text around the picture or anything, i would
> > just like to find an easy way to shrink the frame without manually
> > editting the wrap points on the frame.
> >
> > I hope i've explained this a little bit better.
> >
> > Thanks in advance again.
> ==========================
> Interesting...when I insert a picture
> into a Publisher document I go to...
>
> Insert / Picture / From File...
>
> I don't see a frame...all I see is the
> picture. There are 8 dots...(handles)
> that can be used to resize the image.
> But I wouldn't call it a frame. And of
> course you can reposition the picture
> by dragging the 4 way arrow or nudge
> it with the arrow keys.
>
> Are you referring to a picture of an
> irregular shape like a cutout and the
> unwanted background is white?
>
> --
>
> John Inzer
> Digital Media MVP
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
>
>
>

Re: Picture frame box by Paul

Paul
Sun Mar 09 07:19:00 CDT 2008

Hi Mary,

Thanks for your reply. The pictures i'm inserting are .jpg's but i renamed
one as a .wmf to try your suggestion. When i did it the box turned red,
publisher then queried it, i replied yes and then nothing else happened.

I have tried making myself a bit clearer on a reply to John but i still
don't think i'll find an answer. The picture is an irregular shape but it is
always surrounded by a rectangular shape. I know how to resize and how to
move the image around and how to crop the box so it's not as big around the
irregular shape but i want the box to just be the shape of the irregular
image.

I know it doesn't sound very clear what i'm trying to do but with lots of
images on a page sometimes these boxes overlap each other and the actual
picture is hidden slightly by a box.

Would it just be better to use the "bring to front" option or "bring to
back" via right clicking and then order.

Thank you in advance for all your help on this little problem

Regards

Paul

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

> If you insert a .wmf picture into your publication, click the dog icon on the
> picture toolbar, click *edit wrap points*, it will automatically set the
> points. If you then click tight, Publisher will query. Only bitmaps do you have
> to manually set the wrap points.
>
> --
> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
> http://office.microsoft.com/
> http://msauer.mvps.org/
> news://msnews.microsoft.com
>
> "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:675128D7-CDC8-4654-9037-6C521749A197@microsoft.com...
> > Hi John thanks for the reply
> >
> > When you put a picture into a publisher document you get a rectangular box
> > around the actual picture with 8 dots on it. In the old publisher you could
> > click a button and the box would shrink to the actual size of the picture and
> > not be a rectangle.
> >
> > I don't want to wrap text around the picture or anything, i would just like
> > to find an easy way to shrink the frame without manually editting the wrap
> > points on the frame.
> >
> > I hope i've explained this a little bit better.
> >
> > Thanks in advance again.
> >
> > "John Inzer" wrote:
> >
> >> Paul wrote:
> >> > Hi there,
> >> >
> >> > I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
> >> > to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
> >> > way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
> >> >
> >> > On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
> >> > frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
> >> > of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
> >> > the wrap points.
> >> >
> >> > This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
> >> >
> >> > Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance
> >> =================================
> >> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> John Inzer
> >> Digital Media MVP
> >>
> >> Notice
> >> This is not tech support
> >> I am a volunteer
> >>
> >> Solutions that work for
> >> me may not work for you
> >>
> >> Proceed at your own risk
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Picture frame box by Paul

Paul
Sun Mar 09 07:23:01 CDT 2008

Hi Mary,

I think you might be close to what i mean. The only thing that has thown me
is the text part because i don't want text on the document, i just want lots
of images on a page without the rectangular frames and just the irregular
shapes/picture.

Is there a button like that on 2007 or any other way of achieving the same
effect.

Thanks again for your help.

Paul

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

> In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
> icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
> Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
> about.
>
> --
> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
> http://office.microsoft.com/
> http://msauer.mvps.org/
> news://msnews.microsoft.com
>
> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
> news:0D9DFDA0-F229-495E-AF55-752A800C1625@microsoft.com...
> > You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump. It's
> > nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)
> >
> > --
> >
> > JoAnn Paules
> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carrie" <starchild@kingcon.com> wrote in message
> > news:uswBYzXgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:55E5913E-F423-4298-8FC5-11F04382D4A4@microsoft.com...
> >>> In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.
> >>>
> >>> Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
> >>> skip the frame part. ;-)
> >>
> >> That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
> >> (LOL)
> >> I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
> >> I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if an
> >> actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border settings.
> >>
> >> I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it right
> >> and add extra to the answer.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> JoAnn Paules
> >>> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >>> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23aSjjKVgIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Paul wrote:
> >>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
> >>>>> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
> >>>>> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
> >>>>> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
> >>>>> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
> >>>>> the wrap points.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>> =================================
> >>>> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> John Inzer
> >>>> Digital Media MVP
> >>>>
> >>>> Notice
> >>>> This is not tech support
> >>>> I am a volunteer
> >>>>
> >>>> Solutions that work for
> >>>> me may not work for you
> >>>>
> >>>> Proceed at your own risk
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>

Re: Picture frame box by Mary

Mary
Sun Mar 09 08:14:54 CDT 2008

You could draw an irregular shape with the freeform tool in autoshapes. While
the shape is selected, fill, fill effects, picture tab, browse to your picture.
You may need to check the *Lock picture aspect ratio.*

Bitmaps (.jpg, png etc.) can be turned into irregular shapes, When you select
edit points, you can create new points by placing the cursor anywhere on the
picture. You don't need to change the picture to .wmf. If you right-click the
point, you can change it into a curve to soften the look.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2DC083C9-1A62-42B1-88F4-291BB877A85E@microsoft.com...
> Hi Mary,
>
> I think you might be close to what i mean. The only thing that has thown me
> is the text part because i don't want text on the document, i just want lots
> of images on a page without the rectangular frames and just the irregular
> shapes/picture.
>
> Is there a button like that on 2007 or any other way of achieving the same
> effect.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Paul
>
> "Mary Sauer" wrote:
>
>> In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
>> icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
>> Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
>> about.
>>
>> --
>> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
>> http://office.microsoft.com/
>> http://msauer.mvps.org/
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com
>>
>> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0D9DFDA0-F229-495E-AF55-752A800C1625@microsoft.com...
>> > You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump.
>> > It's
>> > nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > JoAnn Paules
>> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>> > Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Carrie" <starchild@kingcon.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uswBYzXgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >>
>> >> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:55E5913E-F423-4298-8FC5-11F04382D4A4@microsoft.com...
>> >>> In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
>> >>> skip the frame part. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
>> >> (LOL)
>> >> I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
>> >> I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if
>> >> an
>> >> actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border settings.
>> >>
>> >> I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it
>> >> right
>> >> and add extra to the answer.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> JoAnn Paules
>> >>> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>> >>> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
>> >>> news:%23aSjjKVgIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >>>> Paul wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi there,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
>> >>>>> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
>> >>>>> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
>> >>>>> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
>> >>>>> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
>> >>>>> the wrap points.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks in advance
>> >>>> =================================
>> >>>> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>>
>> >>>> John Inzer
>> >>>> Digital Media MVP
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Notice
>> >>>> This is not tech support
>> >>>> I am a volunteer
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Solutions that work for
>> >>>> me may not work for you
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Proceed at your own risk
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>



Re: Picture frame box by John

John
Sun Mar 09 08:46:21 CDT 2008

Paul wrote:
> Hi again John,
>
> I'm probably not using the correct terms here but i think John is
> getting the closest to what i'm trying to mean. I can get an image
> into publisher but the image is an irregular shape, for example a
> bike saddle. When i put this image into publisher it isn't the shape
> of the saddle, it's the saddle surrounded by a rectangular box. What
> i'm trying to do is to make this rectangular box the same shape as
> the image i'm inserting into the document.
>
> On old publisher there used to be an icon which you clicked that did
> this automatically now the only way to get close to this is by
> manually changing the edit points.
>
> I tried clicking the dog and then clicking tight which i had hoped
> would work but the only thing that happened was the box turned red.
>
> I'm sorry i can't explain myself better.
==================================
Maybe we are getting closer.

If you are simply saying you don't wish to
see the dotted line around your picture...
go to...View / Boundaries and Guides...and
uncheck it....or type...Ctrl+Shift+O.

Or...are you referring to an unwanted white
background that surrounds the irregular
shape? If that is the case...select the picture
and look at your Picture Toolbar...there is
a button that says "Set Transparent Color".
If the button is Live...click it and then click
the background of your picture.

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk



Re: Picture frame box by Paul

Paul
Sun Mar 09 09:25:01 CDT 2008

Hi again Mary,

I'm going to try one more time, i'm so grateful for your help and sorry for
bothering you, it would be so easy if i could just show you but i can't. This
paragraph below was what i was meaning.

In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
>> icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
>> Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
>> about.
>>

Is there a similar icon in 2007. Whenever a picture is added to publisher it
puts it in a rectangular box, i want an easy way of getting this box gone
completly without having to manually edit the wrap points which gets the box
closer to the picture.

If there isn't a button to do this i will have to use the bring to front /
bring to back button instead. (I'm putting multiple images on a page and
sometimes the white box of 1 image obscures some part or another image)

Yet again sorry for bothering you so much but that old button was really
handy for me and i really miss it.




"Mary Sauer" wrote:

> You could draw an irregular shape with the freeform tool in autoshapes. While
> the shape is selected, fill, fill effects, picture tab, browse to your picture.
> You may need to check the *Lock picture aspect ratio.*
>
> Bitmaps (.jpg, png etc.) can be turned into irregular shapes, When you select
> edit points, you can create new points by placing the cursor anywhere on the
> picture. You don't need to change the picture to .wmf. If you right-click the
> point, you can change it into a curve to soften the look.
>
> --
> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
> http://office.microsoft.com/
> http://msauer.mvps.org/
> news://msnews.microsoft.com
>
> "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2DC083C9-1A62-42B1-88F4-291BB877A85E@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Mary,
> >
> > I think you might be close to what i mean. The only thing that has thown me
> > is the text part because i don't want text on the document, i just want lots
> > of images on a page without the rectangular frames and just the irregular
> > shapes/picture.
> >
> > Is there a button like that on 2007 or any other way of achieving the same
> > effect.
> >
> > Thanks again for your help.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > "Mary Sauer" wrote:
> >
> >> In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
> >> icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
> >> Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
> >> about.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
> >> http://office.microsoft.com/
> >> http://msauer.mvps.org/
> >> news://msnews.microsoft.com
> >>
> >> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0D9DFDA0-F229-495E-AF55-752A800C1625@microsoft.com...
> >> > You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump.
> >> > It's
> >> > nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > JoAnn Paules
> >> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >> > Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Carrie" <starchild@kingcon.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:uswBYzXgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >>
> >> >> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:55E5913E-F423-4298-8FC5-11F04382D4A4@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
> >> >>> skip the frame part. ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
> >> >> (LOL)
> >> >> I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
> >> >> I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if
> >> >> an
> >> >> actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border settings.
> >> >>
> >> >> I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it
> >> >> right
> >> >> and add extra to the answer.
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>> JoAnn Paules
> >> >>> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >> >>> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:%23aSjjKVgIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >>>> Paul wrote:
> >> >>>>> Hi there,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
> >> >>>>> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
> >> >>>>> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
> >> >>>>> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
> >> >>>>> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
> >> >>>>> the wrap points.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Thanks in advance
> >> >>>> =================================
> >> >>>> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> John Inzer
> >> >>>> Digital Media MVP
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Notice
> >> >>>> This is not tech support
> >> >>>> I am a volunteer
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Solutions that work for
> >> >>>> me may not work for you
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Proceed at your own risk
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Picture frame box by Rob

Rob
Sun Mar 09 09:31:37 CDT 2008

All images are square or rectangular, there's no such thing as an "irregular
shape" image. It may appear irregular because you have transparency (but not
in a jpg), but they are still square/rectangular.



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4EF9BE73-D047-4DF3-8E66-60B788A7A7D0@microsoft.com...
| Hi again John,
|
| I'm probably not using the correct terms here but i think John is getting
| the closest to what i'm trying to mean. I can get an image into publisher
but
| the image is an irregular shape, for example a bike saddle. When i put
this
| image into publisher it isn't the shape of the saddle, it's the saddle
| surrounded by a rectangular box. What i'm trying to do is to make this
| rectangular box the same shape as the image i'm inserting into the
document.
|
| On old publisher there used to be an icon which you clicked that did this
| automatically now the only way to get close to this is by manually
changing
| the edit points.
|
| I tried clicking the dog and then clicking tight which i had hoped would
| work but the only thing that happened was the box turned red.
|
| I'm sorry i can't explain myself better.
|
| "John Inzer" wrote:
|
| > Paul wrote:
| > > Hi John thanks for the reply
| > >
| > > When you put a picture into a publisher document you get a
| > > rectangular box around the actual picture with 8 dots on it. In the
| > > old publisher you could click a button and the box would shrink to
| > > the actual size of the picture and not be a rectangle.
| > >
| > > I don't want to wrap text around the picture or anything, i would
| > > just like to find an easy way to shrink the frame without manually
| > > editting the wrap points on the frame.
| > >
| > > I hope i've explained this a little bit better.
| > >
| > > Thanks in advance again.
| > ==========================
| > Interesting...when I insert a picture
| > into a Publisher document I go to...
| >
| > Insert / Picture / From File...
| >
| > I don't see a frame...all I see is the
| > picture. There are 8 dots...(handles)
| > that can be used to resize the image.
| > But I wouldn't call it a frame. And of
| > course you can reposition the picture
| > by dragging the 4 way arrow or nudge
| > it with the arrow keys.
| >
| > Are you referring to a picture of an
| > irregular shape like a cutout and the
| > unwanted background is white?
| >
| > --
| >
| > John Inzer
| > Digital Media MVP
| >
| > Notice
| > This is not tech support
| > I am a volunteer
| >
| > Solutions that work for
| > me may not work for you
| >
| > Proceed at your own risk
| >
| >
| >



Re: Picture frame box by Mary

Mary
Sun Mar 09 11:52:15 CDT 2008

Paul, It is the dog icon on the picture toolbar. It is the same as what you are
use to in 2000. It is simply presented differently. If the picture toolbar is
not open, right-click the format toolbar, check the picture toolbar. Drag it to
the bottom of the work area.

Did you ever create a new drawing in Publisher 2000? All the picture tools were
available when you inserted a picture into the canvas, in 2007 this step is
automatic.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:29131ED2-8766-41F9-901E-EFC298F9E8B7@microsoft.com...
> Hi again Mary,
>
> I'm going to try one more time, i'm so grateful for your help and sorry for
> bothering you, it would be so easy if i could just show you but i can't. This
> paragraph below was what i was meaning.
>
> In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
>>> icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the
>>> Entire
>>> Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
>>> about.
>>>
>
> Is there a similar icon in 2007. Whenever a picture is added to publisher it
> puts it in a rectangular box, i want an easy way of getting this box gone
> completly without having to manually edit the wrap points which gets the box
> closer to the picture.
>
> If there isn't a button to do this i will have to use the bring to front /
> bring to back button instead. (I'm putting multiple images on a page and
> sometimes the white box of 1 image obscures some part or another image)
>
> Yet again sorry for bothering you so much but that old button was really
> handy for me and i really miss it.
>
>
>
>
> "Mary Sauer" wrote:
>
>> You could draw an irregular shape with the freeform tool in autoshapes. While
>> the shape is selected, fill, fill effects, picture tab, browse to your
>> picture.
>> You may need to check the *Lock picture aspect ratio.*
>>
>> Bitmaps (.jpg, png etc.) can be turned into irregular shapes, When you select
>> edit points, you can create new points by placing the cursor anywhere on the
>> picture. You don't need to change the picture to .wmf. If you right-click the
>> point, you can change it into a curve to soften the look.
>>
>> --
>> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
>> http://office.microsoft.com/
>> http://msauer.mvps.org/
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com
>>
>> "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2DC083C9-1A62-42B1-88F4-291BB877A85E@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Mary,
>> >
>> > I think you might be close to what i mean. The only thing that has thown me
>> > is the text part because i don't want text on the document, i just want
>> > lots
>> > of images on a page without the rectangular frames and just the irregular
>> > shapes/picture.
>> >
>> > Is there a button like that on 2007 or any other way of achieving the same
>> > effect.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for your help.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> > "Mary Sauer" wrote:
>> >
>> >> In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture
>> >> frame
>> >> icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the
>> >> Entire
>> >> Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
>> >> about.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
>> >> http://office.microsoft.com/
>> >> http://msauer.mvps.org/
>> >> news://msnews.microsoft.com
>> >>
>> >> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:0D9DFDA0-F229-495E-AF55-752A800C1625@microsoft.com...
>> >> > You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump.
>> >> > It's
>> >> > nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > JoAnn Paules
>> >> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>> >> > Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Carrie" <starchild@kingcon.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:uswBYzXgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotnospammail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:55E5913E-F423-4298-8FC5-11F04382D4A4@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> skip the frame part. ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an
>> >> >> answer
>> >> >> (LOL)
>> >> >> I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
>> >> >> I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> an
>> >> >> actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border
>> >> >> settings.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it
>> >> >> right
>> >> >> and add extra to the answer.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> JoAnn Paules
>> >> >>> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>> >> >>> Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "John Inzer" <oobie@doobie.xyz> wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:%23aSjjKVgIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>>> Paul wrote:
>> >> >>>>> Hi there,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
>> >> >>>>> to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
>> >> >>>>> way of adjusting the frame around a picture.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
>> >> >>>>> frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
>> >> >>>>> of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
>> >> >>>>> the wrap points.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to
>> >> >>>>> change.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Thanks in advance
>> >> >>>> =================================
>> >> >>>> I give up...what frame are you referring to?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> John Inzer
>> >> >>>> Digital Media MVP
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Notice
>> >> >>>> This is not tech support
>> >> >>>> I am a volunteer
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Solutions that work for
>> >> >>>> me may not work for you
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Proceed at your own risk
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>