It is confusing to have default working hours that have no meaning for my
workplace.
To have everyday set to "non-default working" just to alter the start time
to 9:00am is too messy and confusing.
Please let us change what is considered to be the "Default" working day. ie
add a "Change Default" button to Tools | Change Working Time....
--
Richard
Melbourne Australia

RE: project should let me change the default start finish times in ca. by haixiang

haixiang
Mon Mar 07 20:59:03 CST 2005

MSP does have the function you want
Tools>Change working time, then click "Option..."
or
Tools>Options, then click "Calendar" tab

after you have made you change, click "set as default"

"Richard" wrote:

> It is confusing to have default working hours that have no meaning for my
> workplace.
> To have everyday set to "non-default working" just to alter the start time
> to 9:00am is too messy and confusing.
> Please let us change what is considered to be the "Default" working day. ie
> add a "Change Default" button to Tools | Change Working Time....
> --
> Richard
> Melbourne Australia

Re: project should let me change the default start finish times in ca. by Mike

Mike
Tue Mar 08 05:21:22 CST 2005

Hi Richard,

Welcome to this Microsoft Project newsgroup :-)

You might like to see FAQ Item: 5. Default Working Hours

FAQs, companion products and other useful Project information can be seen at
this web address: http://www.mvps.org/project/

Hope this helps - please let us know how you get on :-)

Mike Glen
Project MVP


Richard wrote:
> It is confusing to have default working hours that have no meaning
> for my workplace.
> To have everyday set to "non-default working" just to alter the start
> time to 9:00am is too messy and confusing.
> Please let us change what is considered to be the "Default" working
> day. ie add a "Change Default" button to Tools | Change Working
> Time.... --
> Richard
> Melbourne Australia




Re: project should let me change the default start finish times in ca. by Steve

Steve
Tue Mar 08 06:00:12 CST 2005

That does not change the default hours in the working time calendar at all.
I know it seems like it says it does but in fact it does not do anything
remotely like that. Surprisingly, nothing on the "Options" page changes
anything in any calendar at all - what it really does is set *task* default
start times and some conversion factors for duration units!

There is no way to change the defaults from 0800-1200 and 1300-1700 to
anything else, those hours are hard coded. You can set your work hours to
anything you wish and you can make any calendar you wish the standard
calendar for new projects but anything besides 0800-1200 and 1300-1700 M-F
are going to be be "non-default" working hours.

You would be well served by studying up on the discussion at the link in
Mike's messages.

--
Steve House [MVP]
MS Project Trainer & Consultant
Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs

"Haixiang" <haixiang.zhang@mw-zander.com> wrote in message
news:2D65722D-6D5A-425C-AFB0-0EB3DE8108DB@microsoft.com...
> MSP does have the function you want
> Tools>Change working time, then click "Option..."
> or
> Tools>Options, then click "Calendar" tab
>
> after you have made you change, click "set as default"
>
> "Richard" wrote:
>
>> It is confusing to have default working hours that have no meaning for my
>> workplace.
>> To have everyday set to "non-default working" just to alter the start
>> time
>> to 9:00am is too messy and confusing.
>> Please let us change what is considered to be the "Default" working day.
>> ie
>> add a "Change Default" button to Tools | Change Working Time....
>> --
>> Richard
>> Melbourne Australia


Re: project should let me change the default start finish times in ca. by JulieD

JulieD
Tue Mar 08 09:28:23 CST 2005

Hi Richard

if you'ld like to send MS an email about this topic, use the following email
address
mswish@microsoft.com

with Project in the subject line

Cheers
JulieD

"Richard" <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:85DC5872-ABB7-4660-837A-121B62A4D802@microsoft.com...
> It is confusing to have default working hours that have no meaning for my
> workplace.
> To have everyday set to "non-default working" just to alter the start time
> to 9:00am is too messy and confusing.
> Please let us change what is considered to be the "Default" working day.
> ie
> add a "Change Default" button to Tools | Change Working Time....
> --
> Richard
> Melbourne Australia



Re: project should let me change the default start finish times in by haixiang

haixiang
Tue Mar 08 18:55:05 CST 2005

the "Option" does have no use to task duration, and what you see in "Change
working time...". But when you assign resource and works to the task, it will
be scheduled according to your settings in the "Option".

"Steve House [MVP]" wrote:

> That does not change the default hours in the working time calendar at all.
> I know it seems like it says it does but in fact it does not do anything
> remotely like that. Surprisingly, nothing on the "Options" page changes
> anything in any calendar at all - what it really does is set *task* default
> start times and some conversion factors for duration units!
>
> There is no way to change the defaults from 0800-1200 and 1300-1700 to
> anything else, those hours are hard coded. You can set your work hours to
> anything you wish and you can make any calendar you wish the standard
> calendar for new projects but anything besides 0800-1200 and 1300-1700 M-F
> are going to be be "non-default" working hours.
>
> You would be well served by studying up on the discussion at the link in
> Mike's messages.
>
> --
> Steve House [MVP]
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
> Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs
>
> "Haixiang" <haixiang.zhang@mw-zander.com> wrote in message
> news:2D65722D-6D5A-425C-AFB0-0EB3DE8108DB@microsoft.com...
> > MSP does have the function you want
> > Tools>Change working time, then click "Option..."
> > or
> > Tools>Options, then click "Calendar" tab
> >
> > after you have made you change, click "set as default"
> >
> > "Richard" wrote:
> >
> >> It is confusing to have default working hours that have no meaning for my
> >> workplace.
> >> To have everyday set to "non-default working" just to alter the start
> >> time
> >> to 9:00am is too messy and confusing.
> >> Please let us change what is considered to be the "Default" working day.
> >> ie
> >> add a "Change Default" button to Tools | Change Working Time....
> >> --
> >> Richard
> >> Melbourne Australia
>
>

Re: project should let me change the default start finish times in by haixiang

haixiang
Tue Mar 08 19:15:03 CST 2005

I have made a test.
even without assign resources, MSP schedules correct.
I set work time 9am-12 pm/1pm -5pm, 7 hours a day, the gantt bar start 9am,
end 5pm.
but the shaded nonworking hours in timescale does not show correctly. It
still show 8am-12pm/1pm-5pm as working hour.

Anyway the calculation and the bar is correct.

"Steve House [MVP]" wrote:

> That does not change the default hours in the working time calendar at all.
> I know it seems like it says it does but in fact it does not do anything
> remotely like that. Surprisingly, nothing on the "Options" page changes
> anything in any calendar at all - what it really does is set *task* default
> start times and some conversion factors for duration units!
>
> There is no way to change the defaults from 0800-1200 and 1300-1700 to
> anything else, those hours are hard coded. You can set your work hours to
> anything you wish and you can make any calendar you wish the standard
> calendar for new projects but anything besides 0800-1200 and 1300-1700 M-F
> are going to be be "non-default" working hours.
>
> You would be well served by studying up on the discussion at the link in
> Mike's messages.
>
> --
> Steve House [MVP]
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
> Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs
>
> "Haixiang" <haixiang.zhang@mw-zander.com> wrote in message
> news:2D65722D-6D5A-425C-AFB0-0EB3DE8108DB@microsoft.com...
> > MSP does have the function you want
> > Tools>Change working time, then click "Option..."
> > or
> > Tools>Options, then click "Calendar" tab
> >
> > after you have made you change, click "set as default"
> >
> > "Richard" wrote:
> >
> >> It is confusing to have default working hours that have no meaning for my
> >> workplace.
> >> To have everyday set to "non-default working" just to alter the start
> >> time
> >> to 9:00am is too messy and confusing.
> >> Please let us change what is considered to be the "Default" working day.
> >> ie
> >> add a "Change Default" button to Tools | Change Working Time....
> >> --
> >> Richard
> >> Melbourne Australia
>
>

Re: project should let me change the default start finish times in by haixiang

haixiang
Wed Mar 09 03:31:02 CST 2005

You are right.
I've made a mistake. It works only when I use date constraints.

"Steve House [MVP]" wrote:

> That does not change the default hours in the working time calendar at all.
> I know it seems like it says it does but in fact it does not do anything
> remotely like that. Surprisingly, nothing on the "Options" page changes
> anything in any calendar at all - what it really does is set *task* default
> start times and some conversion factors for duration units!
>
> There is no way to change the defaults from 0800-1200 and 1300-1700 to
> anything else, those hours are hard coded. You can set your work hours to
> anything you wish and you can make any calendar you wish the standard
> calendar for new projects but anything besides 0800-1200 and 1300-1700 M-F
> are going to be be "non-default" working hours.
>
> You would be well served by studying up on the discussion at the link in
> Mike's messages.
>
> --
> Steve House [MVP]
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
> Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs
>
> "Haixiang" <haixiang.zhang@mw-zander.com> wrote in message
> news:2D65722D-6D5A-425C-AFB0-0EB3DE8108DB@microsoft.com...
> > MSP does have the function you want
> > Tools>Change working time, then click "Option..."
> > or
> > Tools>Options, then click "Calendar" tab
> >
> > after you have made you change, click "set as default"
> >
> > "Richard" wrote:
> >
> >> It is confusing to have default working hours that have no meaning for my
> >> workplace.
> >> To have everyday set to "non-default working" just to alter the start
> >> time
> >> to 9:00am is too messy and confusing.
> >> Please let us change what is considered to be the "Default" working day.
> >> ie
> >> add a "Change Default" button to Tools | Change Working Time....
> >> --
> >> Richard
> >> Melbourne Australia
>
>