Hi, I am using the standard status field in MS project, the summary task
shows the status as late when all of the sub tasks are showing Complete , on
shedule or future task, none are showing late.

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the status of the sumary task to
show the corect status.

Richard

Re: Status of summary tasks incorrect by John

John
Mon May 19 09:58:44 CDT 2008

In article <2EB8F733-40B1-43CD-837A-1B931390FD21@microsoft.com>,
Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi, I am using the standard status field in MS project, the summary task
> shows the status as late when all of the sub tasks are showing Complete , on
> shedule or future task, none are showing late.
>
> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the status of the sumary task to
> show the corect status.
>
> Richard

Richard,
Without seeing your actual file, I don't have a ready answer for what
you are seeing. Try the following. Hover your mouse over the column
heading for the Status field. In a moment the help file for the Status
field will appear. Take a look at the definitions Project uses for
assigning the various status designations. My guess is, you will see a
problem with the cumulative percent complete for the summary line versus
the status date.

Hope this helps.
John
Project MVP

Re: Status of summary tasks incorrect by Richard

Richard
Mon May 19 20:05:00 CDT 2008

Thanks for the reply John. The status date is set to today and the cumulative
percent complete looks right , but the status still says late. I can force it
to say complete by marking all subtasks as 100% complete anything less than
100% complete for all the subtasks then the summary task will show late, many
of the sub tasks are months out in the future. Let me know if you have any
other ideas.

Thanks for your help
Richard

"John" wrote:

> In article <2EB8F733-40B1-43CD-837A-1B931390FD21@microsoft.com>,
> Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I am using the standard status field in MS project, the summary task
> > shows the status as late when all of the sub tasks are showing Complete , on
> > shedule or future task, none are showing late.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the status of the sumary task to
> > show the corect status.
> >
> > Richard
>
> Richard,
> Without seeing your actual file, I don't have a ready answer for what
> you are seeing. Try the following. Hover your mouse over the column
> heading for the Status field. In a moment the help file for the Status
> field will appear. Take a look at the definitions Project uses for
> assigning the various status designations. My guess is, you will see a
> problem with the cumulative percent complete for the summary line versus
> the status date.
>
> Hope this helps.
> John
> Project MVP
>

Re: Status of summary tasks incorrect by John

John
Mon May 19 22:14:09 CDT 2008

In article <7A58B459-770C-4A63-B2B1-8204BC575D4B@microsoft.com>,
Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply John. The status date is set to today and the cumulative
> percent complete looks right , but the status still says late. I can force it
> to say complete by marking all subtasks as 100% complete anything less than
> 100% complete for all the subtasks then the summary task will show late, many
> of the sub tasks are months out in the future. Let me know if you have any
> other ideas.
>
> Thanks for your help
> Richard

Richard,
Wait a minute, your original post said all subtasks are showing complete
but the summary is showing "late". Now your saying you can make the
summary show "complete" by making all subtasks complete. Did I miss
something?

You say the cumulative percent complete "looks right", but does it meet
the requirements spelled out by the help file? Use the Task Usage view
and set the timescale to show hours. You might want to use a three tier
timescale with week and day on the upper two tiers so it's easier to see
what day your looking at.

John
Project MVP
>
> "John" wrote:
>
> > In article <2EB8F733-40B1-43CD-837A-1B931390FD21@microsoft.com>,
> > Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I am using the standard status field in MS project, the summary task
> > > shows the status as late when all of the sub tasks are showing Complete ,
> > > on
> > > shedule or future task, none are showing late.
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the status of the sumary task
> > > to
> > > show the corect status.
> > >
> > > Richard
> >
> > Richard,
> > Without seeing your actual file, I don't have a ready answer for what
> > you are seeing. Try the following. Hover your mouse over the column
> > heading for the Status field. In a moment the help file for the Status
> > field will appear. Take a look at the definitions Project uses for
> > assigning the various status designations. My guess is, you will see a
> > problem with the cumulative percent complete for the summary line versus
> > the status date.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > John
> > Project MVP
> >

Re: Status of summary tasks incorrect by Richard

Richard
Tue May 20 19:45:41 CDT 2008

Hi John, orginal post said tasks that are complete, on shedule or future
task. I am not quite following how the timephased calculation works for
summary tasks. By my way of thinking a summary task should not show a late
status unless at least one of the subtasks is showing a late status? What is
that I am missing?

"John" wrote:

> In article <7A58B459-770C-4A63-B2B1-8204BC575D4B@microsoft.com>,
> Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the reply John. The status date is set to today and the cumulative
> > percent complete looks right , but the status still says late. I can force it
> > to say complete by marking all subtasks as 100% complete anything less than
> > 100% complete for all the subtasks then the summary task will show late, many
> > of the sub tasks are months out in the future. Let me know if you have any
> > other ideas.
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> > Richard
>
> Richard,
> Wait a minute, your original post said all subtasks are showing complete
> but the summary is showing "late". Now your saying you can make the
> summary show "complete" by making all subtasks complete. Did I miss
> something?
>
> You say the cumulative percent complete "looks right", but does it meet
> the requirements spelled out by the help file? Use the Task Usage view
> and set the timescale to show hours. You might want to use a three tier
> timescale with week and day on the upper two tiers so it's easier to see
> what day your looking at.
>
> John
> Project MVP
> >
> > "John" wrote:
> >
> > > In article <2EB8F733-40B1-43CD-837A-1B931390FD21@microsoft.com>,
> > > Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, I am using the standard status field in MS project, the summary task
> > > > shows the status as late when all of the sub tasks are showing Complete ,
> > > > on
> > > > shedule or future task, none are showing late.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the status of the sumary task
> > > > to
> > > > show the corect status.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > >
> > > Richard,
> > > Without seeing your actual file, I don't have a ready answer for what
> > > you are seeing. Try the following. Hover your mouse over the column
> > > heading for the Status field. In a moment the help file for the Status
> > > field will appear. Take a look at the definitions Project uses for
> > > assigning the various status designations. My guess is, you will see a
> > > problem with the cumulative percent complete for the summary line versus
> > > the status date.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > > John
> > > Project MVP
> > >
>

Re: Status of summary tasks incorrect by John

John
Tue May 20 22:27:29 CDT 2008

In article <ABF2262A-4EB4-4A90-ACAC-0E78F7619E81@microsoft.com>,
Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi John, orginal post said tasks that are complete, on shedule or future
> task. I am not quite following how the timephased calculation works for
> summary tasks. By my way of thinking a summary task should not show a late
> status unless at least one of the subtasks is showing a late status? What is
> that I am missing?

Richard,
It's been awhile since I analyzed the requirements of the Status field.
However, I do recall, that the status of a summary line tracks the
calculated status of the subtasks. In other words, if one or more
subtasks is late, then the summary shows late, unless one of those
subtasks is a milestone (0 duration). The calculated status of each
subtask is determined by the status date and the cumulative percent
complete. And yes, it can be kind of confusing.

Maybe it would help if I could take a look at your file, or at least a
representative sample that shows the issue. If you're game, zip the file
and send it to me at the address below. I will ask a few questions.

John
Project MVP
jensenljatatfastmaildotdotfm
(remove obvious redundancies)
>
> "John" wrote:
>
> > In article <7A58B459-770C-4A63-B2B1-8204BC575D4B@microsoft.com>,
> > Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the reply John. The status date is set to today and the
> > > cumulative
> > > percent complete looks right , but the status still says late. I can
> > > force it
> > > to say complete by marking all subtasks as 100% complete anything less
> > > than
> > > 100% complete for all the subtasks then the summary task will show late,
> > > many
> > > of the sub tasks are months out in the future. Let me know if you have
> > > any
> > > other ideas.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help
> > > Richard
> >
> > Richard,
> > Wait a minute, your original post said all subtasks are showing complete
> > but the summary is showing "late". Now your saying you can make the
> > summary show "complete" by making all subtasks complete. Did I miss
> > something?
> >
> > You say the cumulative percent complete "looks right", but does it meet
> > the requirements spelled out by the help file? Use the Task Usage view
> > and set the timescale to show hours. You might want to use a three tier
> > timescale with week and day on the upper two tiers so it's easier to see
> > what day your looking at.
> >
> > John
> > Project MVP
> > >
> > > "John" wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <2EB8F733-40B1-43CD-837A-1B931390FD21@microsoft.com>,
> > > > Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, I am using the standard status field in MS project, the summary
> > > > > task
> > > > > shows the status as late when all of the sub tasks are showing
> > > > > Complete ,
> > > > > on
> > > > > shedule or future task, none are showing late.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the status of the sumary
> > > > > task
> > > > > to
> > > > > show the corect status.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > > Without seeing your actual file, I don't have a ready answer for what
> > > > you are seeing. Try the following. Hover your mouse over the column
> > > > heading for the Status field. In a moment the help file for the Status
> > > > field will appear. Take a look at the definitions Project uses for
> > > > assigning the various status designations. My guess is, you will see a
> > > > problem with the cumulative percent complete for the summary line
> > > > versus
> > > > the status date.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > John
> > > > Project MVP
> > > >
> >

Re: Status of summary tasks incorrect by John

John
Wed May 21 21:14:29 CDT 2008

In article <ABF2262A-4EB4-4A90-ACAC-0E78F7619E81@microsoft.com>,
Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi John, orginal post said tasks that are complete, on shedule or future
> task. I am not quite following how the timephased calculation works for
> summary tasks. By my way of thinking a summary task should not show a late
> status unless at least one of the subtasks is showing a late status? What is
> that I am missing?

RIchard,
I played around with the Status field for summary lines and came up with
something that I think will shed some light on how Project determines if
the summary is late or not.

Add Actual Duration field and a spare text field as columns in a task
view (e.g. Gantt Chart or Task Usage). Customize the spare text field
with the following formula.
Text1= projdatediff([Start],[Status Date])/480-1
In the Customize fields window, select the option to use the formula for
calculating task summary rows.

Compare the value in the customized text1 field with the value displayed
in the Actual Duration field. If the custom field value is equal to or
greater than the Actual Duration, the summary line will show "On
schedule". If the calculated field is less, the summary line will show
"Late".

How does it work? Well, the formula calculates the expected progress the
day before the status date (i.e. cumulative percent complete by the end
of the day before the status date). It should be easier to understand
than deciphering the timescaled data.

Hope this helps.
John
Project MVP
>
> "John" wrote:
>
> > In article <7A58B459-770C-4A63-B2B1-8204BC575D4B@microsoft.com>,
> > Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the reply John. The status date is set to today and the
> > > cumulative
> > > percent complete looks right , but the status still says late. I can
> > > force it
> > > to say complete by marking all subtasks as 100% complete anything less
> > > than
> > > 100% complete for all the subtasks then the summary task will show late,
> > > many
> > > of the sub tasks are months out in the future. Let me know if you have
> > > any
> > > other ideas.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help
> > > Richard
> >
> > Richard,
> > Wait a minute, your original post said all subtasks are showing complete
> > but the summary is showing "late". Now your saying you can make the
> > summary show "complete" by making all subtasks complete. Did I miss
> > something?
> >
> > You say the cumulative percent complete "looks right", but does it meet
> > the requirements spelled out by the help file? Use the Task Usage view
> > and set the timescale to show hours. You might want to use a three tier
> > timescale with week and day on the upper two tiers so it's easier to see
> > what day your looking at.
> >
> > John
> > Project MVP
> > >
> > > "John" wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <2EB8F733-40B1-43CD-837A-1B931390FD21@microsoft.com>,
> > > > Richard <Richard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, I am using the standard status field in MS project, the summary
> > > > > task
> > > > > shows the status as late when all of the sub tasks are showing
> > > > > Complete ,
> > > > > on
> > > > > shedule or future task, none are showing late.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the status of the sumary
> > > > > task
> > > > > to
> > > > > show the corect status.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > > Without seeing your actual file, I don't have a ready answer for what
> > > > you are seeing. Try the following. Hover your mouse over the column
> > > > heading for the Status field. In a moment the help file for the Status
> > > > field will appear. Take a look at the definitions Project uses for
> > > > assigning the various status designations. My guess is, you will see a
> > > > problem with the cumulative percent complete for the summary line
> > > > versus
> > > > the status date.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > John
> > > > Project MVP
> > > >
> >