With MS PPT 2003 we simply did a save as and changed the file name, then
deleted the existing Pictures and added the updates (new month charts etc. as
pix) Some of the office is now on 2007 and some are on 2003, when we do this
in 2007 (delete old pics and replace with new) the file becomes huge,
extremely slow and becomes useless.

I have looked on several blogs, and some people have the same issue, but I
have yet to see a legitmate solution to this problem.

Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it?

Re: PPT Files become unmanageable and too slow when reused and saved 2 by Echo

Echo
Sat Aug 16 09:45:40 CDT 2008

What file format are you saving as in 2007?

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"MS 2007 Hater" <MS 2007 Hater@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5E41AE14-FC14-46BB-933E-2A1CEDB52FB4@microsoft.com...
> With MS PPT 2003 we simply did a save as and changed the file name, then
> deleted the existing Pictures and added the updates (new month charts etc.
> as
> pix) Some of the office is now on 2007 and some are on 2003, when we do
> this
> in 2007 (delete old pics and replace with new) the file becomes huge,
> extremely slow and becomes useless.
>
> I have looked on several blogs, and some people have the same issue, but I
> have yet to see a legitmate solution to this problem.
>
> Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it?


Re: PPT Files become unmanageable and too slow when reused and saved 2 by Steve

Steve
Sat Aug 16 11:58:15 CDT 2008

In article <5E41AE14-FC14-46BB-933E-2A1CEDB52FB4@microsoft.com>, MS 2007 Hater
wrote:
> With MS PPT 2003 we simply did a save as and changed the file name, then
> deleted the existing Pictures and added the updates (new month charts etc. as
> pix) Some of the office is now on 2007 and some are on 2003, when we do this
> in 2007 (delete old pics and replace with new) the file becomes huge,
> extremely slow and becomes useless.

If you use the new picture and other effects in PPT2007 but save back to the
earlier 97-2003 format, then the file will get larger, no question.

It'll be slow to open/save in 2007 ... it has to convert between formats each
time it does this.


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Re: PPT Files become unmanageable and too slow when reused and sav by Anemone

Anemone
Sat Aug 16 17:58:00 CDT 2008

I can't offer a solution, but I can offer sympathy. I have one holdout client
who is partially on 2003, partially on 2007 and -- just to add salt to the
wound -- partially on a Mac. I have 2007 and am running it on my laptop, but
I'm reluctant to upgrade while a valued client isn't up to speed yet. I don't
suppose there's any way to load both on the same computer (without partition)
-- ???

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

> In article <5E41AE14-FC14-46BB-933E-2A1CEDB52FB4@microsoft.com>, MS 2007 Hater
> wrote:
> > With MS PPT 2003 we simply did a save as and changed the file name, then
> > deleted the existing Pictures and added the updates (new month charts etc. as
> > pix) Some of the office is now on 2007 and some are on 2003, when we do this
> > in 2007 (delete old pics and replace with new) the file becomes huge,
> > extremely slow and becomes useless.
>
> If you use the new picture and other effects in PPT2007 but save back to the
> earlier 97-2003 format, then the file will get larger, no question.
>
> It'll be slow to open/save in 2007 ... it has to convert between formats each
> time it does this.
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> PPTools: www.pptools.com
> ================================================
> Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> www.pptlive.com
>
>

Re: PPT Files become unmanageable and too slow when reused and sav by Steve

Steve
Sat Aug 16 19:47:33 CDT 2008

In article <45D6E2B5-C30D-4B3E-92EF-D36DF6AED9B8@microsoft.com>, Anemone wrote:
> I can't offer a solution, but I can offer sympathy. I have one holdout client
> who is partially on 2003, partially on 2007 and -- just to add salt to the
> wound -- partially on a Mac. I have 2007 and am running it on my laptop, but
> I'm reluctant to upgrade while a valued client isn't up to speed yet. I don't
> suppose there's any way to load both on the same computer (without partition)
> -- ???

If your computer's of reasonably decent spec, yep.

You use virtual machines.

Using Virtual PC / VMWare virtual computers
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00819.htm


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PPTools: www.pptools.com
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Re: PPT Files become unmanageable and too slow when reused and sav by MS2007Hater

MS2007Hater
Mon Aug 18 12:16:19 CDT 2008

Saving down to 2003 as our office is not completely converted and most are
reluctant.

"Echo S" wrote:

> What file format are you saving as in 2007?
>
> --
> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
> PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx
>
>
> "MS 2007 Hater" <MS 2007 Hater@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5E41AE14-FC14-46BB-933E-2A1CEDB52FB4@microsoft.com...
> > With MS PPT 2003 we simply did a save as and changed the file name, then
> > deleted the existing Pictures and added the updates (new month charts etc.
> > as
> > pix) Some of the office is now on 2007 and some are on 2003, when we do
> > this
> > in 2007 (delete old pics and replace with new) the file becomes huge,
> > extremely slow and becomes useless.
> >
> > I have looked on several blogs, and some people have the same issue, but I
> > have yet to see a legitmate solution to this problem.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it?
>
>

Re: PPT Files become unmanageable and too slow when reused and sav by Echo

Echo
Mon Aug 18 12:37:32 CDT 2008

It's the dual file format. PPT 2007 saves two formats, the 2007 XML-based
format and the 97-2003 binary format, so that the file is mostly editable in
both. This causes larger file sizes.

Additionally, as Steve mentioned, if you've used the new features in 2007,
PPT creates images out of those things that have used those new formats. For
example, if you add a glow to an image, PPT creates an image of the image
when you save in the dual file format so it displays properly in 2003 but is
still editable when you open it in 2007. This also increases file size.

Why not install the compatibility pack for the 2003 users so they can open
2007-format files and just save as 2007 format? Get it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en

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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


"MS 2007 Hater" <MS2007Hater@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A75FFE92-AD52-4301-AFFB-9ECC016095FE@microsoft.com...
> Saving down to 2003 as our office is not completely converted and most are
> reluctant.
>
> "Echo S" wrote:
>
>> What file format are you saving as in 2007?
>>
>> --
>> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
>> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
>> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
>> PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx
>>
>>
>> "MS 2007 Hater" <MS 2007 Hater@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:5E41AE14-FC14-46BB-933E-2A1CEDB52FB4@microsoft.com...
>> > With MS PPT 2003 we simply did a save as and changed the file name,
>> > then
>> > deleted the existing Pictures and added the updates (new month charts
>> > etc.
>> > as
>> > pix) Some of the office is now on 2007 and some are on 2003, when we
>> > do
>> > this
>> > in 2007 (delete old pics and replace with new) the file becomes huge,
>> > extremely slow and becomes useless.
>> >
>> > I have looked on several blogs, and some people have the same issue,
>> > but I
>> > have yet to see a legitmate solution to this problem.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it?
>>
>>


Re: PPT Files become unmanageable and too slow when reused and sav by Anemone

Anemone
Mon Aug 18 13:02:01 CDT 2008

That's *fantastic,* Steve! Will it run as smoothly as it would if installed
on my main hard drive? I actually have access to a client's server for work
on their 2007 documents, but I don't feel like I'm playing fair to use it for
other clients (to say nothing of confidentiality issues); it works okay, but
because it's a remote server it's a little slow and ragged around the edges.

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

> In article <45D6E2B5-C30D-4B3E-92EF-D36DF6AED9B8@microsoft.com>, Anemone wrote:
> > I can't offer a solution, but I can offer sympathy. I have one holdout client
> > who is partially on 2003, partially on 2007 and -- just to add salt to the
> > wound -- partially on a Mac. I have 2007 and am running it on my laptop, but
> > I'm reluctant to upgrade while a valued client isn't up to speed yet. I don't
> > suppose there's any way to load both on the same computer (without partition)
> > -- ???
>
> If your computer's of reasonably decent spec, yep.
>
> You use virtual machines.
>
> Using Virtual PC / VMWare virtual computers
> http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00819.htm
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> PPTools: www.pptools.com
> ================================================
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> Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
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>
>

Re: PPT Files become unmanageable and too slow when reused and sav by Steve

Steve
Mon Aug 18 14:08:40 CDT 2008

In article <6A8F37EC-6F74-4D15-A553-458F16DA9561@microsoft.com>, Anemone wrote:
> That's *fantastic,* Steve! Will it run as smoothly as it would if installed
> on my main hard drive?

My personal experience, based mostly on VMWare:

No. It won't be as quick and since the "hardware" is emulated, you won't have the
video speed/features of native hardware.

But it's not half bad. For example, I have an XP virtual machine running on a 2ghz
laptop with 2 gb of memory; half that is devoted to the virtual machine. In that,
I've installed Office 2007 and a few utilities, not much else.

Office runs there about as fast as it feels on a 1 or 1.5ghz laptop with 1gb of ram,
other than the video speed.

It's perfectly acceptable for development work and for testing and even less
demanding presentations.

The sweet thing is that you can have one version of Office in the "real" computer
and another in the virtual computer and swap back and forth at will, copy files back
and forth and so on. VERY useful.

>I actually have access to a client's server for work
> on their 2007 documents, but I don't feel like I'm playing fair to use it for
> other clients (to say nothing of confidentiality issues); it works okay, but
> because it's a remote server it's a little slow and ragged around the edges.

Ah. On any kind of decent hardware, a VM should pound the remote server into the
dirt for speed. I suspect you'll love it.

Try the free Virtual PC if it's still available then if you like the whole concept,
look into VMWare if you need something a little more powerful/versatile.

>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
> > In article <45D6E2B5-C30D-4B3E-92EF-D36DF6AED9B8@microsoft.com>, Anemone wrote:
> > > I can't offer a solution, but I can offer sympathy. I have one holdout client
> > > who is partially on 2003, partially on 2007 and -- just to add salt to the
> > > wound -- partially on a Mac. I have 2007 and am running it on my laptop, but
> > > I'm reluctant to upgrade while a valued client isn't up to speed yet. I don't
> > > suppose there's any way to load both on the same computer (without partition)
> > > -- ???
> >
> > If your computer's of reasonably decent spec, yep.
> >
> > You use virtual machines.
> >
> > Using Virtual PC / VMWare virtual computers
> > http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00819.htm
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> > PPTools: www.pptools.com
> > ================================================
> > Live and in personable in the Help Center at PowerPoint Live
> > Sept 21-24, San Diego CA, USA
> > www.pptlive.com
> >
> >
>

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