Hi,

When I power on my wifi module, immediate I get a popup of access points
that are within range "Multiple Networks Detected".

From the Menu, I can choose between:

- "Dismiss"
- "Don't show this message again"

I wish to preset the "Don't show this message again". Is that a registry key
I can simply set?
I haven't been able to find it.

Lisa

Re: urgent: wi-fi popup blocker by ctacke/>

ctacke/>
Sat Nov 25 12:13:46 CST 2006

I don't know the answer, but what I'd do is use Remote Registry editor.
Dump the reg before you set it, set it, dump the reg agaoin and diff the two
files.


--
Chris Tacke
OpenNETCF Consulting
Managed Code in the Embedded World
www.opennetcf.com
--


"Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
news:uunj1ALEHHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> When I power on my wifi module, immediate I get a popup of access points
> that are within range "Multiple Networks Detected".
>
> From the Menu, I can choose between:
>
> - "Dismiss"
> - "Don't show this message again"
>
> I wish to preset the "Don't show this message again". Is that a registry
> key I can simply set?
> I haven't been able to find it.
>
> Lisa
>



Re: urgent: wi-fi popup blocker by Lisa

Lisa
Sat Nov 25 12:21:29 CST 2006

That's actually what I have been doing, but I don't see anything.
I'm using WinDiff.exe tool that came with eVC++ 4

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[@]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
news:O4xF61LEHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I don't know the answer, but what I'd do is use Remote Registry editor.
>Dump the reg before you set it, set it, dump the reg agaoin and diff the
>two files.
>
>
> --
> Chris Tacke
> OpenNETCF Consulting
> Managed Code in the Embedded World
> www.opennetcf.com
> --
>
>
> "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
> news:uunj1ALEHHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I power on my wifi module, immediate I get a popup of access points
>> that are within range "Multiple Networks Detected".
>>
>> From the Menu, I can choose between:
>>
>> - "Dismiss"
>> - "Don't show this message again"
>>
>> I wish to preset the "Don't show this message again". Is that a registry
>> key I can simply set?
>> I haven't been able to find it.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>
>



Re: urgent: wi-fi popup blocker by Lisa

Lisa
Sat Nov 25 12:25:00 CST 2006

Actually, all my questions regarding WiFi has gone unanswered (you're the
first one to at least try).
Why is this? Is it that WiFi is quite manufacturer specific?

Is there some other mechanism in WM5 for (system) applications to store
their information securely? I guess some registry keys are protected.. is
there some other way WM5 stores profiles or settings in some database store?

Lisa

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[@]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
news:O4xF61LEHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I don't know the answer, but what I'd do is use Remote Registry editor.
>Dump the reg before you set it, set it, dump the reg agaoin and diff the
>two files.
>
>
> --
> Chris Tacke
> OpenNETCF Consulting
> Managed Code in the Embedded World
> www.opennetcf.com
> --
>
>
> "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
> news:uunj1ALEHHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I power on my wifi module, immediate I get a popup of access points
>> that are within range "Multiple Networks Detected".
>>
>> From the Menu, I can choose between:
>>
>> - "Dismiss"
>> - "Don't show this message again"
>>
>> I wish to preset the "Don't show this message again". Is that a registry
>> key I can simply set?
>> I haven't been able to find it.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>
>



Re: urgent: wi-fi popup blocker by ctacke/>

ctacke/>
Sat Nov 25 13:02:30 CST 2006

WiFi can be a challenge, largely due to standards. If the OEM decided to
use Wireless Zero Config (WZC) there there is a standard API (that is
largely undocumented) but there's nothing that says that the OEM has to use
it. Most (if not all) built-in WM WiFi radios I've seen do use WZC. Of
course WM adds it's own UI layer on top of that (probably through a custom
NETUI component, but I've not lookexd at the src to see if that's the case).
So altering device behavior there is likely specific to WM, and getting
around it is probably not documented and may not even be possible. If you
see no registry differences, it could be storing the state in a globabl
driver variable or something, so you'd have no way to access it in that
case.


--
Chris Tacke
OpenNETCF Consulting
Managed Code in the Embedded World
www.opennetcf.com
--



"Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
news:%23D5OE7LEHHA.3224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Actually, all my questions regarding WiFi has gone unanswered (you're the
> first one to at least try).
> Why is this? Is it that WiFi is quite manufacturer specific?
>
> Is there some other mechanism in WM5 for (system) applications to store
> their information securely? I guess some registry keys are protected.. is
> there some other way WM5 stores profiles or settings in some database
> store?
>
> Lisa
>
> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[@]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
> news:O4xF61LEHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I don't know the answer, but what I'd do is use Remote Registry editor.
>>Dump the reg before you set it, set it, dump the reg agaoin and diff the
>>two files.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Tacke
>> OpenNETCF Consulting
>> Managed Code in the Embedded World
>> www.opennetcf.com
>> --
>>
>>
>> "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
>> news:uunj1ALEHHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When I power on my wifi module, immediate I get a popup of access points
>>> that are within range "Multiple Networks Detected".
>>>
>>> From the Menu, I can choose between:
>>>
>>> - "Dismiss"
>>> - "Don't show this message again"
>>>
>>> I wish to preset the "Don't show this message again". Is that a registry
>>> key I can simply set?
>>> I haven't been able to find it.
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: urgent: wi-fi popup blocker by Lisa

Lisa
Sat Nov 25 13:28:49 CST 2006

Why is WZC largely undocumented?
For example, I needed to programmatically power on/off the wifi radio, and
there seems to be no standard way of doing that.. tools that exist operate
on the hardware directely (through drivers or something, or maybe ioctrl ?).

It's very interesting/crucial what you mentioned about drivers storing
settings in flobal variables..
Is there really no way of accessing this info? I mean, obviously it would
have to be documented since each OEM might have their own drivers and ways
of storing things.. but would you have to operate on driver level?

The thing is, this WiFi popup thing is standard WM5 I think.. it's the same
kind of popup, looks are the same, so do most other configuration screens in
WM5.

Is there some other way to block this popup you think? perhaps window hook,
that prevents the creation of that window?

Lisa

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[@]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
news:eRmvJRMEHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> WiFi can be a challenge, largely due to standards. If the OEM decided to
> use Wireless Zero Config (WZC) there there is a standard API (that is
> largely undocumented) but there's nothing that says that the OEM has to
> use it. Most (if not all) built-in WM WiFi radios I've seen do use WZC.
> Of course WM adds it's own UI layer on top of that (probably through a
> custom NETUI component, but I've not lookexd at the src to see if that's
> the case). So altering device behavior there is likely specific to WM, and
> getting around it is probably not documented and may not even be possible.
> If you see no registry differences, it could be storing the state in a
> globabl driver variable or something, so you'd have no way to access it in
> that case.
>
>
> --
> Chris Tacke
> OpenNETCF Consulting
> Managed Code in the Embedded World
> www.opennetcf.com
> --
>
>
>
> "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
> news:%23D5OE7LEHHA.3224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Actually, all my questions regarding WiFi has gone unanswered (you're the
>> first one to at least try).
>> Why is this? Is it that WiFi is quite manufacturer specific?
>>
>> Is there some other mechanism in WM5 for (system) applications to store
>> their information securely? I guess some registry keys are protected.. is
>> there some other way WM5 stores profiles or settings in some database
>> store?
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> "<ctacke/>" <ctacke[@]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
>> news:O4xF61LEHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I don't know the answer, but what I'd do is use Remote Registry editor.
>>>Dump the reg before you set it, set it, dump the reg agaoin and diff the
>>>two files.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Tacke
>>> OpenNETCF Consulting
>>> Managed Code in the Embedded World
>>> www.opennetcf.com
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
>>> news:uunj1ALEHHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> When I power on my wifi module, immediate I get a popup of access
>>>> points that are within range "Multiple Networks Detected".
>>>>
>>>> From the Menu, I can choose between:
>>>>
>>>> - "Dismiss"
>>>> - "Don't show this message again"
>>>>
>>>> I wish to preset the "Don't show this message again". Is that a
>>>> registry key I can simply set?
>>>> I haven't been able to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: urgent: wi-fi popup blocker by ctacke/>

ctacke/>
Sat Nov 25 17:59:02 CST 2006

> Why is WZC largely undocumented?

Time and resources I guess? Platform Builder comes with the full source for
the NETUI control panel app, so there's a working sample in C that uses it -
there's just little documentation of what the APIs are or what the
parameters should be. It's a job of trial and error that is not terribly
fun to do.

> For example, I needed to programmatically power on/off the wifi radio, and
> there seems to be no standard way of doing that.. tools that exist operate
> on the hardware directely (through drivers or something, or maybe ioctrl
> ?).

That's power management - not WZC. I don't think WZC even has an interface
for that. Powering it down is likely to be an OEM-dependent item. You
might be able to use the power management APIs to do it, but again, it will
vary from device to device.

> It's very interesting/crucial what you mentioned about drivers storing
> settings in flobal variables..
> Is there really no way of accessing this info? I mean, obviously it would
> have to be documented since each OEM might have their own drivers and ways
> of storing things.. but would you have to operate on driver level?

"Driver level" on CE (pre 6.0) has no special meaning. An app can do
anything a driver can. That said, it's not easy to get at data in a driver
without either a documented API from the OEM or a serious amount of
investment in reverse engineering time and some specialty hardware.

>
> The thing is, this WiFi popup thing is standard WM5 I think.. it's the
> same kind of popup, looks are the same, so do most other configuration
> screens in WM5.

Sure, the Platform forces the OEM to be somewhat standard. The popup
probably comes to the OEM for free. Handling what it does when you tap a
button doesn't. Keep in mind, Microsoft can't possibly know what an OEM may
use for hardware, and they can't possibly create drivers and software for
every possibility. They create the OS framework and require the OEM to
implement the hardware abstraction layer.

>
> Is there some other way to block this popup you think? perhaps window
> hook, that prevents the creation of that window?

No clue. A windows hook is unlikely. You already did what I'd consider a
first step in looking at the registry. Next is to use Spy++ and see if
there's any info to be gained there.

Based on experience, I'd say the liklihood of eliminating it is pretty slim
though. But hey, I've never tried so don't let my pessimism discourage you.
I could easily be wrong.


--
Chris Tacke
OpenNETCF Consulting
Managed Code in the Embedded World
www.opennetcf.com
--



Re: urgent: wi-fi popup blocker by indiekiduk

indiekiduk
Sun Nov 26 09:09:13 CST 2006

Hi Lisa,

For WM5 its
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\ControlPanel\\Notifications\\{DDBD3B44-80B0-4b24-9DC4-839FEA6E559E}\Options
and 0 for pop ups on and 9 for off.

For PPC 2003 the key is
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{8ddf46e7-56ed-4750-9e58-afc6ce486d03}\Options
and its 0 for on and 8 for off.


Lisa Pearlson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> When I power on my wifi module, immediate I get a popup of access points
> that are within range "Multiple Networks Detected".
>
> From the Menu, I can choose between:
>
> - "Dismiss"
> - "Don't show this message again"
>
> I wish to preset the "Don't show this message again". Is that a registry key
> I can simply set?
> I haven't been able to find it.
>
> Lisa


Re: urgent: wi-fi popup blocker by Lisa

Lisa
Tue Nov 28 17:27:20 CST 2006

Thanks,

I already had found it myself, but.. I think you meant it the other way
around.
It's 0 for off, 8 or 9 for on.. actually 1 is vibrate, so I'm sure 2-8 have
functions, like different ring tones or something..

Thank you very much for responding though!

Lisa

"indiekiduk" <indiekiduk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164553753.776061.80680@14g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Lisa,
>
> For WM5 its
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\ControlPanel\\Notifications\\{DDBD3B44-80B0-4b24-9DC4-839FEA6E559E}\Options
> and 0 for pop ups on and 9 for off.
>
> For PPC 2003 the key is
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{8ddf46e7-56ed-4750-9e58-afc6ce486d03}\Options
> and its 0 for on and 8 for off.
>
>
> Lisa Pearlson wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I power on my wifi module, immediate I get a popup of access points
>> that are within range "Multiple Networks Detected".
>>
>> From the Menu, I can choose between:
>>
>> - "Dismiss"
>> - "Don't show this message again"
>>
>> I wish to preset the "Don't show this message again". Is that a registry
>> key
>> I can simply set?
>> I haven't been able to find it.
>>
>> Lisa
>