Windows Mobile 5 name

Have you noted that new Pocket PC 2005 is always called "Windows Mobile
2005" and not "Windows Mobile 2005 for Pocket PC": why?

On the other hand it's Pocket PC, not only Windows Mobile.. as well as the
old Pocket PC 2003 was "Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC".

Mhaxx

Chris
Thu Dec 15 10:12:22 CST 2005

"Mhaxx" <supermhaxx@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> Have you noted that new Pocket PC 2005 is always called "Windows Mobile
> 2005" and not "Windows Mobile 2005 for Pocket PC": why?

It was a marketing decision by Microsoft. "Windows Mobile" does not imply
"Pocket PC" as SmartPhone is WM and so is PMC.

> On the other hand it's Pocket PC, not only Windows Mobile.. as well as the
> old Pocket PC 2003 was "Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC".

It's no longer "Pocket PC" at all. Microsoft appears to have dropped the
moniker. Of course people still call it a Pocket PC becasue it's easy, and
it doesn't require clarification of what type of WM 5.0 device it is.

-Chris

Ajay
Thu Dec 15 22:49:29 CST 2005

In addition, there were different operating for Mobile devices (Smart
phones) and PDA known as Windows Mobile and Pocket PC 200x respectively. But
now MSFT have converged them into a single operating system called Windows
Mobile 5.0 for both kind of devices.

Thanks,
-Ajay


"Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke@spamfree-opennetcf.org> wrote in message
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> "Mhaxx" <supermhaxx@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:u8DO%237WAGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Have you noted that new Pocket PC 2005 is always called "Windows Mobile
>> 2005" and not "Windows Mobile 2005 for Pocket PC": why?
>
> It was a marketing decision by Microsoft. "Windows Mobile" does not imply
> "Pocket PC" as SmartPhone is WM and so is PMC.
>
>> On the other hand it's Pocket PC, not only Windows Mobile.. as well as
>> the
>> old Pocket PC 2003 was "Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC".
>
> It's no longer "Pocket PC" at all. Microsoft appears to have dropped the
> moniker. Of course people still call it a Pocket PC becasue it's easy,
> and it doesn't require clarification of what type of WM 5.0 device it is.
>
> -Chris
>
>

Mhaxx
Fri Dec 16 02:35:17 CST 2005

> It was a marketing decision by Microsoft. "Windows Mobile" does not imply

In other words: in the past "Pocket PC" was always based on "Windows Mobile"
(in fact the complete name was "Windows Mobile for Pocket PC", but now (and
in the future) "Pocket PC" name is lost and the only name you can use for it
is "Windows Mobile" (2005): is it right?

> It's no longer "Pocket PC" at all. Microsoft appears to have dropped the

Ok, but I don't understand a thing: "Windows Mobile" was "Pocket PC",
"Smartphone" and "Portable Media Center", too! So, now when I find "Windows
Mobile 2005" what have I to understand? Is it "Pocket PC"? Or "Smartphone"?
Or "Portable Media Center"? Or what?! :-O

Mhaxx

Mhaxx
Fri Dec 16 02:38:10 CST 2005

> In addition, there were different operating for Mobile devices (Smart
> phones) and PDA known as Windows Mobile and Pocket PC 200x respectively.
But
> now MSFT have converged them into a single operating system called Windows
> Mobile 5.0 for both kind of devices.

Maybe this is the response to my question: now "Windows Mobile 5" is "Pocket
PC" or "Smarphone" or "Portable Media Center" or whatelse?! I can understand
what a "Windows Mobile 5" device is? (you know, PPC is different from SP!)

Mhaxx

ctacke/>
Fri Dec 16 07:02:42 CST 2005

> In other words: in the past "Pocket PC" was always based on "Windows
> Mobile"
> (in fact the complete name was "Windows Mobile for Pocket PC", but now
> (and
> in the future) "Pocket PC" name is lost and the only name you can use for
> it
> is "Windows Mobile" (2005): is it right?

Actually it was purely "Pocket PC" in the beginning - back when there was
also PsPS (CE 1.0 and 2.0 based Palm-Sized PC) and HPC (Handheld PC).

> Ok, but I don't understand a thing: "Windows Mobile" was "Pocket PC",
> "Smartphone" and "Portable Media Center", too! So, now when I find
> "Windows
> Mobile 2005" what have I to understand? Is it "Pocket PC"? Or
> "Smartphone"?
> Or "Portable Media Center"? Or what?! :-O

The underlying OS and platform is very much the same in all of them, but yes
"Windows Mobile" now covers several device classes.

-Chris

r_z_aret
Fri Dec 16 16:28:26 CST 2005

I think Microsoft has made a nomenclatural mess, and the number of
similar queries confirms. The underlying operating system was, and I'm
quite sure still is, Windows CE. Combining a particular version of the
operating system plus hardware, some apps, and a few tweaks to the
operating system (additions, removals, changes) yields a "platform"
such as Pocket PC or Smartphone. I think "Windows Mobile" is an
attempt to find an umbrella term that covers multiple platforms. Thus
"Windows Mobile for Pocket PC", "Windows Mobile for Smartphone", etc.
I think the following are relevant and useful:
http://www.opennetcf.org/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=317
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/wce/versions.htm


On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:01:29 +0100, "Mhaxx" <supermhaxx@despammed.com>
wrote:

>Have you noted that new Pocket PC 2005 is always called "Windows Mobile
>2005" and not "Windows Mobile 2005 for Pocket PC": why?
>
>On the other hand it's Pocket PC, not only Windows Mobile.. as well as the
>old Pocket PC 2003 was "Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC".
>
>Mhaxx
>

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