Native CE 4.2 Development with VS 2005

Hi,

is it possible to do native C/C++ Development for
CE 4.2 Devices (x86 and ARM)
with Visual Studio 2005???

Or do I need to Use the Old eMB VC++ 4.0?

Thanks for any help
Frank Stegerwald

Marc
Wed Feb 28 04:37:58 CST 2007

"Frank Stegerwald" <stegerwald@newsgroup.nospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> is it possible to do native C/C++ Development for
> CE 4.2 Devices (x86 and ARM)
> with Visual Studio 2005???
No.

> Or do I need to Use the Old eMB VC++ 4.0?
Yes.

Marc

Frank
Wed Feb 28 04:47:37 CST 2007

Hi,

thanks for your reply,
but why exists then a converter to convert eMB VC++ 4.0 Projects to VS 2005?


Greetings
Frank

"Marc Ambrosius" <marc.ambrosius@nurfuerspam.de> wrote in message
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> "Frank Stegerwald" <stegerwald@newsgroup.nospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:%23ajgq7xWHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> is it possible to do native C/C++ Development for
>> CE 4.2 Devices (x86 and ARM)
>> with Visual Studio 2005???
> No.
>
>> Or do I need to Use the Old eMB VC++ 4.0?
> Yes.
>
> Marc
>

ctacke/>
Wed Feb 28 07:23:25 CST 2007

For those doing CE 5.0 development.


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"Frank Stegerwald" <stegerwald@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> thanks for your reply,
> but why exists then a converter to convert eMB VC++ 4.0 Projects to VS
> 2005?
>
>
> Greetings
> Frank
>
> "Marc Ambrosius" <marc.ambrosius@nurfuerspam.de> wrote in message
> news:OeNvESyWHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "Frank Stegerwald" <stegerwald@newsgroup.nospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:%23ajgq7xWHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> is it possible to do native C/C++ Development for
>>> CE 4.2 Devices (x86 and ARM)
>>> with Visual Studio 2005???
>> No.
>>
>>> Or do I need to Use the Old eMB VC++ 4.0?
>> Yes.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>
>

Norman
Wed Feb 28 19:35:24 CST 2007

"Marc Ambrosius" <marc.ambrosius@nurfuerspam.de> wrote in message
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> "Frank Stegerwald" <stegerwald@newsgroup.nospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:%23ajgq7xWHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> is it possible to do native C/C++ Development for
>> CE 4.2 Devices (x86 and ARM)
>> with Visual Studio 2005???
>
> No.

I think yes. The default targets are Pocket PC 2003 second edition and
Smartphone 2003 second edition. Separate SDKS have to be downloaded in
order to target Windows Mobile 5.

>> Or do I need to Use the Old eMB VC++ 4.0?
>
> Yes.

I think no. That's only needed in order to reduce the number of bugs in the
development environment. Unfortunately the frequency of the hang and
"switch to" bug in eVC4 makes it equally painful as the crashes and other
bugs of VS2005.

ctacke/>
Wed Feb 28 21:23:35 CST 2007

He said CE 4.2, not Windows Mobile 5.0. Big difference. Studio '05 cannot
debug native apps on CE 4.2. In fact even managed apps are not officially
supported for debugging on 4.2 devices from '05 either - they will work if
you manually deploy CF 2.0 SP1, but since it's not supported, that's not
guaranteed to continue working with any future updates to either the CF or
Studio.


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"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond@community.nospam> wrote in message
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> "Marc Ambrosius" <marc.ambrosius@nurfuerspam.de> wrote in message
> news:OeNvESyWHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "Frank Stegerwald" <stegerwald@newsgroup.nospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:%23ajgq7xWHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> is it possible to do native C/C++ Development for
>>> CE 4.2 Devices (x86 and ARM)
>>> with Visual Studio 2005???
>>
>> No.
>
> I think yes. The default targets are Pocket PC 2003 second edition and
> Smartphone 2003 second edition. Separate SDKS have to be downloaded in
> order to target Windows Mobile 5.
>
>>> Or do I need to Use the Old eMB VC++ 4.0?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> I think no. That's only needed in order to reduce the number of bugs in
> the development environment. Unfortunately the frequency of the hang and
> "switch to" bug in eVC4 makes it equally painful as the crashes and other
> bugs of VS2005.

Norman
Wed Feb 28 22:38:58 CST 2007

"<ctacke/>" <ctacke[@]opennetcf[dot]com> wrote in message
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> He said CE 4.2, not Windows Mobile 5.0. Big difference.

I know. That's why I said this:
>> The default targets are Pocket PC 2003 second edition and Smartphone 2003
>> second edition. Separate SDKS have to be downloaded in order to target
>> Windows Mobile 5.

That means that, whether or not he downloads separate SDKs to target Windows
Mobile 5, Visual Studio 2005's built-in targets are still Pocket PC 2003
second edition and Smartphone 2003 second edition.

> Studio '05 cannot debug native apps on CE 4.2.

OK, that is important, and I must admit to not having noticed that.

> In fact even managed apps are not officially supported for debugging on
> 4.2 devices from '05 either

So the default targets that are built-in in VS2005 were really just
vapourware from the start?

ctacke/>
Wed Feb 28 23:11:03 CST 2007

> So the default targets that are built-in in VS2005 were really just
> vapourware from the start?

No. PPC is, for whatever reason I'll never understand, a "special case"
that Microsoft treats separately from "generic" CE. Generice CE 4.2 devices
are not supported, but PPC 03 (which is based on CE 4.2) is. The story was
similar in Studio '03, where generic CE 3.0 was not supported, but PPC 2000
(based on 3.0 ) was. Go figure.


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