401k value multiplier?

I have a 401k through Nationwide, and I'm u sing Money Plus. Money doesnt
support automatic updates from Nationwide, but I can download my transactions
into Money from their website.

This works fine except that Money calculates the value based on 1-to-1 value
of the mutual funds, but in the 401k itself, I dont buy '1 share' of a fund,
I buy fractions of shares.

The problem is that Money doesnt know this, so it calculates the value of
Approximately 10x the actual value, and it shows a 1000% increase! (i wish!)
Is there any way to get Money to account for this?

Cal
Fri May 02 09:18:27 CDT 2008

In microsoft.public.money, Jeremy wrote:

>I have a 401k through Nationwide, and I'm u sing Money Plus. Money doesnt
>support automatic updates from Nationwide, but I can download my transactions
>into Money from their website.
>
>This works fine except that Money calculates the value based on 1-to-1 value
>of the mutual funds, but in the 401k itself, I dont buy '1 share' of a fund,
>I buy fractions of shares.
>
>The problem is that Money doesnt know this, so it calculates the value of
>Approximately 10x the actual value, and it shows a 1000% increase! (i wish!)
> Is there any way to get Money to account for this?

The problem is probably that you are not actually buying the
publicly traded shares but some other related instrument. Therefore
the most accurate representation is to remove the symbol from your
fund and instead manually enter the prices.

If there were a 10:1 ratio or some such, you could change your units
by doing a suitable split to translate. However that would likely
diverge over time because there are probably different fees for what
you hold vs the publicly traded fund.

Jeremy
Fri May 02 09:51:01 CDT 2008

Thank you, that's what I figured. I was hoping that this was a fairly
common problem and there was something I could do to override it.



"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

> In microsoft.public.money, Jeremy wrote:
>
> >I have a 401k through Nationwide, and I'm u sing Money Plus. Money doesnt
> >support automatic updates from Nationwide, but I can download my transactions
> >into Money from their website.
> >
> >This works fine except that Money calculates the value based on 1-to-1 value
> >of the mutual funds, but in the 401k itself, I dont buy '1 share' of a fund,
> >I buy fractions of shares.
> >
> >The problem is that Money doesnt know this, so it calculates the value of
> >Approximately 10x the actual value, and it shows a 1000% increase! (i wish!)
> > Is there any way to get Money to account for this?
>
> The problem is probably that you are not actually buying the
> publicly traded shares but some other related instrument. Therefore
> the most accurate representation is to remove the symbol from your
> fund and instead manually enter the prices.
>
> If there were a 10:1 ratio or some such, you could change your units
> by doing a suitable split to translate. However that would likely
> diverge over time because there are probably different fees for what
> you hold vs the publicly traded fund.
>
>

Cal
Fri May 02 10:12:24 CDT 2008

In microsoft.public.money, Jeremy wrote:

>Thank you, that's what I figured. I was hoping that this was a fairly
>common problem and there was something I could do to override it.

The first part is the case, but the second part is not unless you
can control changing the investment to something that is publicly
listed.

There are some fund families where there are public prices for
various classes including "advisor" classes. "Advisor" class funds
usually pay a fee to the advisor. This could be to a
salesman-advisor or to the 401K fund manager to pay for the
administration of the plan.

Dick
Fri May 02 10:27:12 CDT 2008

It is an all too common problem. There is no good way to override it since
all of these plans and funds are different in their valuation mechanics.

"Jeremy" <Jeremy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FC99D06E-89D1-4E95-8818-655618D95DD7@microsoft.com...
> Thank you, that's what I figured. I was hoping that this was a fairly
> common problem and there was something I could do to override it.