Why does catagorizing "negative" expenses not work

I did catagorize the income as a "negative" expense. That's how I did it on
Yahoo! but for some reason the amount in that catagory still is the same as
it was before I catagorized the income as an expense. I have a bank service
charge of $18 and then I get a $18 credit from the bank. But even though I
catagorized the credit under the same expense catagory I still have $18 show
up for bank service charges in my spending by catagory pie chart.

via_newsgroup
Tue Feb 22 21:03:34 CST 2005

In microsoft.public.money, BJT wrote:

>I did catagorize the income as a "negative" expense. That's how I did it on
>Yahoo! but for some reason the amount in that catagory still is the same as
>it was before I catagorized the income as an expense. I have a bank service
>charge of $18 and then I get a $18 credit from the bank. But even though I
>catagorized the credit under the same expense catagory I still have $18 show
>up for bank service charges in my spending by catagory pie chart.

It does not work in the Spending by Category report for me either,
but it does work when I customize Transactions by Category. Perhaps
Spending is deemed to only be only outgo and ignores the negative
"spending" in the Spending report.

Kent
Wed Feb 23 10:06:39 CST 2005

Look at Customize Report, Details, Type and change to "all Types" from
"Payments".

"BJT" <BJT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I did catagorize the income as a "negative" expense. That's how I did it on
Yahoo! but for some reason the amount in that catagory still is the same as
it was before I catagorized the income as an expense. I have a bank service
charge of $18 and then I get a $18 credit from the bank. But even though I
catagorized the credit under the same expense catagory I still have $18 show
up for bank service charges in my spending by catagory pie chart.

via_newsgroup
Wed Feb 23 10:56:30 CST 2005

In microsoft.public.money, "Kent Riesen" <Kent Riesen @ Eureka, CA>
wrote:

>Look at Customize Report, Details, Type and change to "all Types" from
>"Payments".

Ahhh. That's it.

>
>"BJT" <BJT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:C6A1D91C-B5EB-4FDD-9B41-891D204FAAA0@microsoft.com...
>I did catagorize the income as a "negative" expense. That's how I did it on
>Yahoo! but for some reason the amount in that catagory still is the same as
>it was before I catagorized the income as an expense. I have a bank service
>charge of $18 and then I get a $18 credit from the bank. But even though I
>catagorized the credit under the same expense catagory I still have $18 show
>up for bank service charges in my spending by catagory pie chart.
>

harrelsonesq
Wed Feb 23 23:15:41 CST 2005

But then it also shows your salary. Since (thank god) it's the biggest
category, it reduces the spending slices to miniscule slivers. This kind of
wipes out the utility of a Spending Chart, IMO.

I have a LOT more offset gains/losses than an $18 bank charge. Let me
explain. Gambling winnings are taxable income only to the extent that they
exceed losses. I enter winnings as "negative losses," to keep Money from
treating all winnings as income. It works, but not in the Spending Chart.

Doing the Spending Chart in the way described would work only if you entered
your paycheck as "negative living expenses." IMO, anyway.

Susan

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:iddp11t6skck6iqu94tf57sct8eehhu81d@4ax.com...
> In microsoft.public.money, "Kent Riesen" <Kent Riesen @ Eureka, CA>
> wrote:
>
>>Look at Customize Report, Details, Type and change to "all Types" from
>>"Payments".
>
> Ahhh. That's it.
>
>>
>>"BJT" <BJT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:C6A1D91C-B5EB-4FDD-9B41-891D204FAAA0@microsoft.com...
>>I did catagorize the income as a "negative" expense. That's how I did it
>>on
>>Yahoo! but for some reason the amount in that catagory still is the same
>>as
>>it was before I catagorized the income as an expense. I have a bank
>>service
>>charge of $18 and then I get a $18 credit from the bank. But even though
>>I
>>catagorized the credit under the same expense catagory I still have $18
>>show
>>up for bank service charges in my spending by catagory pie chart.
>>
>

via_newsgroup
Thu Feb 24 15:55:13 CST 2005

In microsoft.public.money, harrelsonesq wrote:

>But then it also shows your salary. Since (thank god) it's the biggest
>category, it reduces the spending slices to miniscule slivers. This kind of
>wipes out the utility of a Spending Chart, IMO.

To take care of that, Customize by selecting the Category tab, and
then SelectExpenseCategories.

>
>I have a LOT more offset gains/losses than an $18 bank charge. Let me
>explain. Gambling winnings are taxable income only to the extent that they
>exceed losses. I enter winnings as "negative losses," to keep Money from
>treating all winnings as income. It works, but not in the Spending Chart.
>
>Doing the Spending Chart in the way described would work only if you entered
>your paycheck as "negative living expenses." IMO, anyway.
>
>Susan
>
>"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
>news:iddp11t6skck6iqu94tf57sct8eehhu81d@4ax.com...
>> In microsoft.public.money, "Kent Riesen" <Kent Riesen @ Eureka, CA>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Look at Customize Report, Details, Type and change to "all Types" from
>>>"Payments".
>>
>> Ahhh. That's it.
>>
>>>
>>>"BJT" <BJT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>news:C6A1D91C-B5EB-4FDD-9B41-891D204FAAA0@microsoft.com...
>>>I did catagorize the income as a "negative" expense. That's how I did it
>>>on
>>>Yahoo! but for some reason the amount in that catagory still is the same
>>>as
>>>it was before I catagorized the income as an expense. I have a bank
>>>service
>>>charge of $18 and then I get a $18 credit from the bank. But even though
>>>I
>>>catagorized the credit under the same expense catagory I still have $18
>>>show
>>>up for bank service charges in my spending by catagory pie chart.
>>>
>>
>