M04 data file: can I export to Quicken and import it back ?

I may have a corrupt money data file and it seems my backup file has
also got corrupted. I can open a new data file and one that was backed-
up over 2 years ago but not the one from last weekend.

Have tried the recovery steps outlined in microsoft suppport base,
tried the salvage tool (quick repair seems to work but not Level 2
standard repair), upgrading to M07, a demo version of the "recovery
for money" and also exporting to excel using the UltrasoftLink add-in
but with no luck..

It seems the two options left to me are -

1. Can I import into quicken , hope for a miracle and if the miracle
works, export it to M04 ?
2. Use a data recovery service..

Any thoughts if #1 has worked for anyone and also are there any other
options available ? Hate to lose the data

Thanks,

Rajat

Dick
Tue Feb 27 07:22:02 CST 2007

How do you propose to import the data into Quicken if nothing can read the
file and Quicken has no importer?

Lesson to others: a two year old backup isn't.

<rajatkp@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172550802.366178.225440@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>I may have a corrupt money data file and it seems my backup file has
> also got corrupted. I can open a new data file and one that was backed-
> up over 2 years ago but not the one from last weekend.
>
> Have tried the recovery steps outlined in microsoft suppport base,
> tried the salvage tool (quick repair seems to work but not Level 2
> standard repair), upgrading to M07, a demo version of the "recovery
> for money" and also exporting to excel using the UltrasoftLink add-in
> but with no luck..
>
> It seems the two options left to me are -
>
> 1. Can I import into quicken , hope for a miracle and if the miracle
> works, export it to M04 ?
> 2. Use a data recovery service..
>
> Any thoughts if #1 has worked for anyone and also are there any other
> options available ? Hate to lose the data
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rajat
>

rajatkp
Tue Feb 27 12:46:57 CST 2007

On Feb 27, 8:22 am, "Dick Watson" <littlegreenge...@mind-enufalready-
spring.com> wrote:
> How do you propose to import the data into Quicken if nothing can read the
> file and Quicken has no importer?
>
> Lesson to others: a two year old backup isn't.
>

Dick,

Thanks for the input on Quicken. I am not aware if the import function
was available in Quicken or not..just assumed it was.

And please note, I back-up every week. My back-up from last week does
not work while my back-up from 2 -years ago works which was on a USB
drive works. Not sure why that is happening though. Any thoughts why ?

Thanks,

Rajat

Dick
Tue Feb 27 14:37:01 CST 2007

Lesson to others: One backup can occasionally prove not to be, so backup
your backups. Also, occasionally test your backups to prove they really are.

Can't say exactly what's going on in your case, but you wouldn't be the
first person to discover the Money will happily make a broken backup of a
broken file, if that's really what's going on.

You mentioned trying the command line salv.exe utility against the data file
but failing at level 2. By failing, I assume the salv crashed or said
something to the effect that the file was beyond hopeless? (What?) Did you
try the M07 salv against the M04 data file?

What "recovery for Money" demo version? I'm not aware of such a thing. Third
party or from Microsoft?

Your OP said you "have a corrupt ... data file ... and [a corrupt] backup".
How did you determine this? Money crashes trying to open them? Money emits
an error message? (What, exactly?) Money works but data is missing?

<rajatkp@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172602016.946910.81930@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for the input on Quicken. I am not aware if the import function
> was available in Quicken or not..just assumed it was.
>
> And please note, I back-up every week. My back-up from last week does
> not work while my back-up from 2 -years ago works which was on a USB
> drive works. Not sure why that is happening though. Any thoughts why ?

rajatkp
Tue Feb 27 20:00:09 CST 2007

On Feb 27, 3:37 pm, "Dick Watson" <littlegreenge...@mind-enufalready-
spring.com> wrote:
> Lesson to others: One backup can occasionally prove not to be, so backup
> your backups. Also, occasionally test your backups to prove they really are.

> Can't say exactly what's going on in your case, but you wouldn't be the
> first person to discover the Money will happily make a broken backup of a
> broken file, if that's really what's going on.

Rajat - I am now learning it the hard way. Did not realize it was such
an issue till I started reading some of these user groups. A hard
knock but a lesson learned too.


> You mentioned trying the command line salv.exe utility against the data file
> but failing at level 2. By failing, I assume the salv crashed or said
> something to the effect that the file was beyond hopeless? (What?) Did you
> try the M07 salv against the M04 data file?

Rajat - When I run the salv.exe at level 2 I get the message " Utility
could not repair the file. Repair a different version, restore a back
up or re-install Money. Make sure your file is not saved as read-only
(0x800a1462)"

I used salv.exe downloaded from the web and also the one with Money
2004 (by first creating a new data file) and get the same mssg. Have
re-installed money twice and the file is not saved as a read-only. I
guess this means that the file is beyond hopeless ?

> What "recovery for Money" demo version? I'm not aware of such a thing. Third
> party or from Microsoft?

Rajat - 3rd party. www.officerecovery.com
>
> Your OP said you "have a corrupt ... data file ... and [a corrupt] backup".
> How did you determine this? Money crashes trying to open them? Money emits
> an error message? (What, exactly?) Money works but data is missing?

Rajat - The last time it worked fine was on sat 2/24 morning. when I
tried to login later in the evening. I got the message -

"Money has detected that you did not close the My Money file before
exiting. Money needs to verify the information in the file. This may
take a few
minutes."

When I press yes i get the message "the password is
incorrect. please try again"

When I tried restoring from the back-up file i got the error message
that money cannot locate the file or its a read-
only file or the disk drive is write protected.

This message is the same http://support.microsoft.com/kb/182608/en-us
Article ID 182608.

Thanks for responding to my posts. Grateful for your help.

Rajat

Cal
Tue Feb 27 20:23:12 CST 2007

In microsoft.public.money, rajatkp@gmail.com wrote:

>
>When I tried restoring from the back-up file i got the error message
>that money cannot locate the file or its a read-
>only file or the disk drive is write protected.

File->Restore the backup file, but NOT to the default file
name. Browse to your MyDocuments folder and specify a DIFFERENT
filename.

rajatkp
Wed Feb 28 09:26:57 CST 2007


> File->Restore the backup file, but NOT to the default file
> name. Browse to your MyDocuments folder and specify a DIFFERENT
> filename.


Rajat - Cal..appreciate your inputs. When I restore my backup file I
do specify a different filename. My default backup file name is "My
Money Backup.mbf" and the file that I am trying to restore to is
"Repair.mny"

Thanks!

Cal
Wed Feb 28 10:57:50 CST 2007

In microsoft.public.money, rajatkp@gmail.com wrote:

>
>> File->Restore the backup file, but NOT to the default file
>> name. Browse to your MyDocuments folder and specify a DIFFERENT
>> filename.
>
>
>Rajat - Cal..appreciate your inputs. When I restore my backup file I
>do specify a different filename. My default backup file name is "My
>Money Backup.mbf" and the file that I am trying to restore to is
>"Repair.mny"

If you are also browsing to a folder that you know you can write in,
such as your MyDocuments folder, and if there is not a write-
protected copy of Repair.mny there already, then I am not hopeful
for your situation.

I could suggest that you do a search of all of your drives for
*.mny, *.mbf but I fear that search will not find a forgotten file
that will be newer than your 2-year old backup.

I would be very surprised if a third-party program resurrects your
newer file. You might consider contacting Microsoft to see if they
have any ideas. Expect a fee for support, and don't expect positive
results. Even so, it seems a better long shot than that
program/service that you cited.

I would work with that two-year old file, download what is available
from the financial institutions, add in what you have available from
other statements, and make a compensating transaction in each
account to compensate for what you cannot reconstruct.

I don't have to tell you to review your backup situation. I suspect
you already have made extra copies of that 2-year old backup onto
USB flash and/or CDR media in case your hard drive were to crash.

It is no consolation to tell you that Money 2006 and 2007 keep 4
timestamped backups on your hard drive by default, and that you can
increase that number. I set mine to 99 since I have a lot of unused
space anyway.