Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT

I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that folks are frustrated
with the lack of communication. We have been on the verge of good news all
afternoon (and evening), and it is here.

I'm happy to announce that we have published a solution to the sign-in
problem. Users that have been unable to use the passwords or work with their
files offline should follow the directions at:
http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp

I know that there are additional questions, which I have answered below.

Q1: What happened with our passwords?

A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated and inadvertently
pointed to the wrong location to verify authentication. The authentication
process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by looking in the wrong
server location. This mistake only affected Money services. (If you think of
your login information as a key, and our servers as a lock, then we changed
the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work anymore. There is no way
for the user [or anybody else] to create working login information. The good
news is that nobody could open the local file because of this mistake at any
time; your information is still protected.)

We corrected the "wrong server location" problem Tuesday morning, and users
who did not login between late Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning should
be able to use their files normally.

Those who were affected may continue to be affected, however, since Money
downloaded some of the garbled information from our servers. (Basically, we
made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we do this? Because when
you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old key to continue working
on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be an easy way for
somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the locks. Of course, we
will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it without decreasing
security in the future.)

This situation has not caused any violation of our users'
privacy, and our online services have continued to be available.

Q2: How does the fix work?

A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect environment of Monday
evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will allow affected users
to login with their current information and recover the lock information
that has locked them out. This will allow them to unlock their file. It is
important to note that users who changed their password should use their new
password, and that no user will be able to access the lock information for
another user.

Again, this solution does not violate our users' privacy. We are
using your login information to restore the lock to your unique key.

Users who have been unable to access their local files should
open a web browser to http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
the directions on that page.

Q3: Why did it take so long?

A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our first efforts were to
restore the correct configuration of our servers, while preserving the state
they were in for investigation.

Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact on users. Naturally,
we are very careful when dealing with users' login information and follow
strict procedures to protect their privacy.

We have identified three different states that users' files can be in, and
we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it was important that
the fix be thorough.

At all times we were working as directly and hard as possible at getting a
solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.

Q4: What if I still can't access my file?

A4: You should send email to mnyngsup@microsoft.com.

Q5: Was this Passport's fault?

A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and always did work for access
to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The issue relates to Money's
server interactions with local Money files.

Q6: Why does Money use Passport for the local file?

A6: We use Passport for a number of web services at Microsoft,
including financial web services that we offer through Microsoft Money.
Since the local file can access these services, the file needs to be
protected as well. For ease of use, we use the same system, Passport, to
protect access to the local file. Users that do not use the web services do
not have to use Passport for the local file.

-Russ Paul-Jones
MSN Money

Sign in solution is availble by anonymous

anonymous
Fri Jul 30 00:54:23 CDT 2004

Many thanks. I'm back up.

>-----Original Message-----
>Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT
>
>I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that
folks are frustrated
>with the lack of communication. We have been on the
verge of good news all
>afternoon (and evening), and it is here.
>
>I'm happy to announce that we have published a solution
to the sign-in
>problem. Users that have been unable to use the
passwords or work with their
>files offline should follow the directions at:
>http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp
>
>I know that there are additional questions, which I have
answered below.
>
>Q1: What happened with our passwords?
>
>A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated and
inadvertently
>pointed to the wrong location to verify authentication.
The authentication
>process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by
looking in the wrong
>server location. This mistake only affected Money
services. (If you think of
>your login information as a key, and our servers as a
lock, then we changed
>the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work
anymore. There is no way
>for the user [or anybody else] to create working login
information. The good
>news is that nobody could open the local file because of
this mistake at any
>time; your information is still protected.)
>
>We corrected the "wrong server location" problem Tuesday
morning, and users
>who did not login between late Monday afternoon and
Tuesday morning should
>be able to use their files normally.
>
>Those who were affected may continue to be affected,
however, since Money
>downloaded some of the garbled information from our
servers. (Basically, we
>made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we
do this? Because when
>you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old key
to continue working
>on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be
an easy way for
>somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the
locks. Of course, we
>will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it
without decreasing
>security in the future.)
>
> This situation has not caused any violation
of our users'
>privacy, and our online services have continued to be
available.
>
>Q2: How does the fix work?
>
>A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect
environment of Monday
>evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will
allow affected users
>to login with their current information and recover the
lock information
>that has locked them out. This will allow them to unlock
their file. It is
>important to note that users who changed their password
should use their new
>password, and that no user will be able to access the
lock information for
>another user.
>
> Again, this solution does not violate our
users' privacy. We are
>using your login information to restore the lock to your
unique key.
>
> Users who have been unable to access their
local files should
>open a web browser to
http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
>the directions on that page.
>
>Q3: Why did it take so long?
>
>A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our
first efforts were to
>restore the correct configuration of our servers, while
preserving the state
>they were in for investigation.
>
>Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact
on users. Naturally,
>we are very careful when dealing with users' login
information and follow
>strict procedures to protect their privacy.
>
>We have identified three different states that users'
files can be in, and
>we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it
was important that
>the fix be thorough.
>
>At all times we were working as directly and hard as
possible at getting a
>solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.
>
>Q4: What if I still can't access my file?
>
>A4: You should send email to
mnyngsup@microsoft.com.
>
>Q5: Was this Passport's fault?
>
>A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and always
did work for access
>to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The issue
relates to Money's
>server interactions with local Money files.
>
>Q6: Why does Money use Passport for the local file?
>
>A6: We use Passport for a number of web services
at Microsoft,
>including financial web services that we offer through
Microsoft Money.
>Since the local file can access these services, the file
needs to be
>protected as well. For ease of use, we use the same
system, Passport, to
>protect access to the local file. Users that do not use
the web services do
>not have to use Passport for the local file.
>
>-Russ Paul-Jones
>MSN Money
>
>
>.
>

Re: Sign in solution is availble by Richard

Richard
Fri Jul 30 00:55:32 CDT 2004

Don't understand any of that, but it certainly worked for me!

Thanks

Richard


"Russ Paul-Jones" <russpj@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eG2ikZfdEHA.3044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT
>
> I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that folks are frustrated
> with the lack of communication. We have been on the verge of good news all
> afternoon (and evening), and it is here.
>
> I'm happy to announce that we have published a solution to the sign-in
> problem. Users that have been unable to use the passwords or work with
their
> files offline should follow the directions at:
> http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp
>
> I know that there are additional questions, which I have answered below.
>
> Q1: What happened with our passwords?
>
> A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated and inadvertently
> pointed to the wrong location to verify authentication. The authentication
> process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by looking in the wrong
> server location. This mistake only affected Money services. (If you think
of
> your login information as a key, and our servers as a lock, then we
changed
> the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work anymore. There is no
way
> for the user [or anybody else] to create working login information. The
good
> news is that nobody could open the local file because of this mistake at
any
> time; your information is still protected.)
>
> We corrected the "wrong server location" problem Tuesday morning, and
users
> who did not login between late Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning should
> be able to use their files normally.
>
> Those who were affected may continue to be affected, however, since Money
> downloaded some of the garbled information from our servers. (Basically,
we
> made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we do this? Because
when
> you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old key to continue
working
> on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be an easy way for
> somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the locks. Of course, we
> will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it without decreasing
> security in the future.)
>
> This situation has not caused any violation of our users'
> privacy, and our online services have continued to be available.
>
> Q2: How does the fix work?
>
> A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect environment of Monday
> evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will allow affected
users
> to login with their current information and recover the lock information
> that has locked them out. This will allow them to unlock their file. It is
> important to note that users who changed their password should use their
new
> password, and that no user will be able to access the lock information for
> another user.
>
> Again, this solution does not violate our users' privacy. We
are
> using your login information to restore the lock to your unique key.
>
> Users who have been unable to access their local files should
> open a web browser to http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
> the directions on that page.
>
> Q3: Why did it take so long?
>
> A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our first efforts were
to
> restore the correct configuration of our servers, while preserving the
state
> they were in for investigation.
>
> Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact on users.
Naturally,
> we are very careful when dealing with users' login information and follow
> strict procedures to protect their privacy.
>
> We have identified three different states that users' files can be in, and
> we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it was important that
> the fix be thorough.
>
> At all times we were working as directly and hard as possible at getting a
> solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.
>
> Q4: What if I still can't access my file?
>
> A4: You should send email to mnyngsup@microsoft.com.
>
> Q5: Was this Passport's fault?
>
> A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and always did work for
access
> to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The issue relates to
Money's
> server interactions with local Money files.
>
> Q6: Why does Money use Passport for the local file?
>
> A6: We use Passport for a number of web services at Microsoft,
> including financial web services that we offer through Microsoft Money.
> Since the local file can access these services, the file needs to be
> protected as well. For ease of use, we use the same system, Passport, to
> protect access to the local file. Users that do not use the web services
do
> not have to use Passport for the local file.
>
> -Russ Paul-Jones
> MSN Money
>
>



Sign in solution is availble by anonymous

anonymous
Fri Jul 30 01:16:59 CDT 2004


Thank you for correcting the problem.

John F

Re: Sign in solution is availble by Lurker

Lurker
Fri Jul 30 01:32:12 CDT 2004

This works like a charm. Thanks for burning the midnight oil.



Sign in solution is availble by anonymous

anonymous
Fri Jul 30 01:32:30 CDT 2004

merci !!
>-----Original Message-----
>Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT
>
>I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that
folks are frustrated
>with the lack of communication. We have been on the verge
of good news all
>afternoon (and evening), and it is here.
>
>I'm happy to announce that we have published a solution
to the sign-in
>problem. Users that have been unable to use the passwords
or work with their
>files offline should follow the directions at:
>http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp
>
>I know that there are additional questions, which I have
answered below.
>
>Q1: What happened with our passwords?
>
>A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated and
inadvertently
>pointed to the wrong location to verify authentication.
The authentication
>process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by
looking in the wrong
>server location. This mistake only affected Money
services. (If you think of
>your login information as a key, and our servers as a
lock, then we changed
>the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work
anymore. There is no way
>for the user [or anybody else] to create working login
information. The good
>news is that nobody could open the local file because of
this mistake at any
>time; your information is still protected.)
>
>We corrected the "wrong server location" problem Tuesday
morning, and users
>who did not login between late Monday afternoon and
Tuesday morning should
>be able to use their files normally.
>
>Those who were affected may continue to be affected,
however, since Money
>downloaded some of the garbled information from our
servers. (Basically, we
>made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we do
this? Because when
>you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old key
to continue working
>on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be an
easy way for
>somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the
locks. Of course, we
>will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it
without decreasing
>security in the future.)
>
> This situation has not caused any violation
of our users'
>privacy, and our online services have continued to be
available.
>
>Q2: How does the fix work?
>
>A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect
environment of Monday
>evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will
allow affected users
>to login with their current information and recover the
lock information
>that has locked them out. This will allow them to unlock
their file. It is
>important to note that users who changed their password
should use their new
>password, and that no user will be able to access the
lock information for
>another user.
>
> Again, this solution does not violate our
users' privacy. We are
>using your login information to restore the lock to your
unique key.
>
> Users who have been unable to access their
local files should
>open a web browser to
http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
>the directions on that page.
>
>Q3: Why did it take so long?
>
>A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our
first efforts were to
>restore the correct configuration of our servers, while
preserving the state
>they were in for investigation.
>
>Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact on
users. Naturally,
>we are very careful when dealing with users' login
information and follow
>strict procedures to protect their privacy.
>
>We have identified three different states that users'
files can be in, and
>we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it
was important that
>the fix be thorough.
>
>At all times we were working as directly and hard as
possible at getting a
>solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.
>
>Q4: What if I still can't access my file?
>
>A4: You should send email to mnyngsup@microsoft.com.
>
>Q5: Was this Passport's fault?
>
>A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and always
did work for access
>to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The issue
relates to Money's
>server interactions with local Money files.
>
>Q6: Why does Money use Passport for the local file?
>
>A6: We use Passport for a number of web services at
Microsoft,
>including financial web services that we offer through
Microsoft Money.
>Since the local file can access these services, the file
needs to be
>protected as well. For ease of use, we use the same
system, Passport, to
>protect access to the local file. Users that do not use
the web services do
>not have to use Passport for the local file.
>
>-Russ Paul-Jones
>MSN Money
>
>
>.
>

Sign in solution is availble by Grrrr!

Grrrr!
Fri Jul 30 05:15:23 CDT 2004

The web page worked. Thank you.

>-----Original Message-----
>Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT
>
>I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that
folks are frustrated
>with the lack of communication. We have been on the verge
of good news all
>afternoon (and evening), and it is here.
>
>I'm happy to announce that we have published a solution
to the sign-in
>problem. Users that have been unable to use the passwords
or work with their
>files offline should follow the directions at:
>http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp
>
>I know that there are additional questions, which I have
answered below.
>
>Q1: What happened with our passwords?
>
>A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated and
inadvertently
>pointed to the wrong location to verify authentication.
The authentication
>process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by
looking in the wrong
>server location. This mistake only affected Money
services. (If you think of
>your login information as a key, and our servers as a
lock, then we changed
>the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work
anymore. There is no way
>for the user [or anybody else] to create working login
information. The good
>news is that nobody could open the local file because of
this mistake at any
>time; your information is still protected.)
>
>We corrected the "wrong server location" problem Tuesday
morning, and users
>who did not login between late Monday afternoon and
Tuesday morning should
>be able to use their files normally.
>
>Those who were affected may continue to be affected,
however, since Money
>downloaded some of the garbled information from our
servers. (Basically, we
>made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we do
this? Because when
>you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old key
to continue working
>on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be an
easy way for
>somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the
locks. Of course, we
>will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it
without decreasing
>security in the future.)
>
> This situation has not caused any violation
of our users'
>privacy, and our online services have continued to be
available.
>
>Q2: How does the fix work?
>
>A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect
environment of Monday
>evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will
allow affected users
>to login with their current information and recover the
lock information
>that has locked them out. This will allow them to unlock
their file. It is
>important to note that users who changed their password
should use their new
>password, and that no user will be able to access the
lock information for
>another user.
>
> Again, this solution does not violate our
users' privacy. We are
>using your login information to restore the lock to your
unique key.
>
> Users who have been unable to access their
local files should
>open a web browser to
http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
>the directions on that page.
>
>Q3: Why did it take so long?
>
>A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our
first efforts were to
>restore the correct configuration of our servers, while
preserving the state
>they were in for investigation.
>
>Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact on
users. Naturally,
>we are very careful when dealing with users' login
information and follow
>strict procedures to protect their privacy.
>
>We have identified three different states that users'
files can be in, and
>we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it
was important that
>the fix be thorough.
>
>At all times we were working as directly and hard as
possible at getting a
>solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.
>
>Q4: What if I still can't access my file?
>
>A4: You should send email to mnyngsup@microsoft.com.
>
>Q5: Was this Passport's fault?
>
>A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and always
did work for access
>to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The issue
relates to Money's
>server interactions with local Money files.
>
>Q6: Why does Money use Passport for the local file?
>
>A6: We use Passport for a number of web services at
Microsoft,
>including financial web services that we offer through
Microsoft Money.
>Since the local file can access these services, the file
needs to be
>protected as well. For ease of use, we use the same
system, Passport, to
>protect access to the local file. Users that do not use
the web services do
>not have to use Passport for the local file.
>
>-Russ Paul-Jones
>MSN Money
>
>
>.
>

Re: Sign in solution is availble by user

user
Fri Jul 30 05:42:31 CDT 2004

I am back in business.

Thank you very much for your efforts.

Jim

Sign in solution is availble by June

June
Fri Jul 30 05:51:59 CDT 2004

ahhhh, solution works great and I'm back in business.
Thank you very much for a solution, you made my day!
>-----Original Message-----
>Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT
>
>I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that
folks are frustrated
>with the lack of communication. We have been on the
verge of good news all
>afternoon (and evening), and it is here.
>
>I'm happy to announce that we have published a solution
to the sign-in
>problem. Users that have been unable to use the
passwords or work with their
>files offline should follow the directions at:
>http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp
>
>I know that there are additional questions, which I have
answered below.
>
>Q1: What happened with our passwords?
>
>A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated and
inadvertently
>pointed to the wrong location to verify authentication.
The authentication
>process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by
looking in the wrong
>server location. This mistake only affected Money
services. (If you think of
>your login information as a key, and our servers as a
lock, then we changed
>the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work
anymore. There is no way
>for the user [or anybody else] to create working login
information. The good
>news is that nobody could open the local file because of
this mistake at any
>time; your information is still protected.)
>
>We corrected the "wrong server location" problem Tuesday
morning, and users
>who did not login between late Monday afternoon and
Tuesday morning should
>be able to use their files normally.
>
>Those who were affected may continue to be affected,
however, since Money
>downloaded some of the garbled information from our
servers. (Basically, we
>made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we
do this? Because when
>you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old key
to continue working
>on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be
an easy way for
>somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the
locks. Of course, we
>will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it
without decreasing
>security in the future.)
>
> This situation has not caused any violation
of our users'
>privacy, and our online services have continued to be
available.
>
>Q2: How does the fix work?
>
>A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect
environment of Monday
>evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will
allow affected users
>to login with their current information and recover the
lock information
>that has locked them out. This will allow them to unlock
their file. It is
>important to note that users who changed their password
should use their new
>password, and that no user will be able to access the
lock information for
>another user.
>
> Again, this solution does not violate our
users' privacy. We are
>using your login information to restore the lock to your
unique key.
>
> Users who have been unable to access their
local files should
>open a web browser to
http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
>the directions on that page.
>
>Q3: Why did it take so long?
>
>A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our
first efforts were to
>restore the correct configuration of our servers, while
preserving the state
>they were in for investigation.
>
>Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact
on users. Naturally,
>we are very careful when dealing with users' login
information and follow
>strict procedures to protect their privacy.
>
>We have identified three different states that users'
files can be in, and
>we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it
was important that
>the fix be thorough.
>
>At all times we were working as directly and hard as
possible at getting a
>solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.
>
>Q4: What if I still can't access my file?
>
>A4: You should send email to
mnyngsup@microsoft.com.
>
>Q5: Was this Passport's fault?
>
>A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and always
did work for access
>to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The issue
relates to Money's
>server interactions with local Money files.
>
>Q6: Why does Money use Passport for the local file?
>
>A6: We use Passport for a number of web services
at Microsoft,
>including financial web services that we offer through
Microsoft Money.
>Since the local file can access these services, the file
needs to be
>protected as well. For ease of use, we use the same
system, Passport, to
>protect access to the local file. Users that do not use
the web services do
>not have to use Passport for the local file.
>
>-Russ Paul-Jones
>MSN Money
>
>
>.
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Re: Sign in solution is availble by Still

Still
Fri Jul 30 05:59:48 CDT 2004

This fix does not work at all for me. I cannot open my
primary file, and cannot restore a backup. The money key
wizard simply tells me that I need to contact PSS for
additional support.

>-----Original Message-----
>Don't understand any of that, but it certainly worked
for me!
>
>Thanks
>
>Richard
>
>
>"Russ Paul-Jones" <russpj@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:eG2ikZfdEHA.3044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT
>>
>> I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that
folks are frustrated
>> with the lack of communication. We have been on the
verge of good news all
>> afternoon (and evening), and it is here.
>>
>> I'm happy to announce that we have published a
solution to the sign-in
>> problem. Users that have been unable to use the
passwords or work with
>their
>> files offline should follow the directions at:
>> http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp
>>
>> I know that there are additional questions, which I
have answered below.
>>
>> Q1: What happened with our passwords?
>>
>> A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated
and inadvertently
>> pointed to the wrong location to verify
authentication. The authentication
>> process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by
looking in the wrong
>> server location. This mistake only affected Money
services. (If you think
>of
>> your login information as a key, and our servers as a
lock, then we
>changed
>> the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work
anymore. There is no
>way
>> for the user [or anybody else] to create working login
information. The
>good
>> news is that nobody could open the local file because
of this mistake at
>any
>> time; your information is still protected.)
>>
>> We corrected the "wrong server location" problem
Tuesday morning, and
>users
>> who did not login between late Monday afternoon and
Tuesday morning should
>> be able to use their files normally.
>>
>> Those who were affected may continue to be affected,
however, since Money
>> downloaded some of the garbled information from our
servers. (Basically,
>we
>> made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we
do this? Because
>when
>> you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old
key to continue
>working
>> on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be
an easy way for
>> somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the
locks. Of course, we
>> will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it
without decreasing
>> security in the future.)
>>
>> This situation has not caused any
violation of our users'
>> privacy, and our online services have continued to be
available.
>>
>> Q2: How does the fix work?
>>
>> A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect
environment of Monday
>> evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will
allow affected
>users
>> to login with their current information and recover
the lock information
>> that has locked them out. This will allow them to
unlock their file. It is
>> important to note that users who changed their
password should use their
>new
>> password, and that no user will be able to access the
lock information for
>> another user.
>>
>> Again, this solution does not violate our
users' privacy. We
>are
>> using your login information to restore the lock to
your unique key.
>>
>> Users who have been unable to access their
local files should
>> open a web browser to
http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
>> the directions on that page.
>>
>> Q3: Why did it take so long?
>>
>> A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our
first efforts were
>to
>> restore the correct configuration of our servers,
while preserving the
>state
>> they were in for investigation.
>>
>> Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact
on users.
>Naturally,
>> we are very careful when dealing with users' login
information and follow
>> strict procedures to protect their privacy.
>>
>> We have identified three different states that users'
files can be in, and
>> we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it
was important that
>> the fix be thorough.
>>
>> At all times we were working as directly and hard as
possible at getting a
>> solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.
>>
>> Q4: What if I still can't access my file?
>>
>> A4: You should send email to
mnyngsup@microsoft.com.
>>
>> Q5: Was this Passport's fault?
>>
>> A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and
always did work for
>access
>> to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The
issue relates to
>Money's
>> server interactions with local Money files.
>>
>> Q6: Why does Money use Passport for the local
file?
>>
>> A6: We use Passport for a number of web services
at Microsoft,
>> including financial web services that we offer through
Microsoft Money.
>> Since the local file can access these services, the
file needs to be
>> protected as well. For ease of use, we use the same
system, Passport, to
>> protect access to the local file. Users that do not
use the web services
>do
>> not have to use Passport for the local file.
>>
>> -Russ Paul-Jones
>> MSN Money
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Re: Sign in solution is availble by Bob

Bob
Fri Jul 30 06:21:17 CDT 2004

Have you emailed to mnyngsup@microsoft.com as in Russ's instructions?

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny.
For wishes or suggestions see
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback

"Still not working" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:716a01c47624$546916d0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> This fix does not work at all for me. I cannot open my
> primary file, and cannot restore a backup. The money key
> wizard simply tells me that I need to contact PSS for
> additional support.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Don't understand any of that, but it certainly worked
> for me!
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Richard
>>
>>
>>"Russ Paul-Jones" <russpj@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:eG2ikZfdEHA.3044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT
>>>
>>> I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that
> folks are frustrated
>>> with the lack of communication. We have been on the
> verge of good news all
>>> afternoon (and evening), and it is here.
>>>
>>> I'm happy to announce that we have published a
> solution to the sign-in
>>> problem. Users that have been unable to use the
> passwords or work with
>>their
>>> files offline should follow the directions at:
>>> http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp
>>>
>>> I know that there are additional questions, which I
> have answered below.
>>>
>>> Q1: What happened with our passwords?
>>>
>>> A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated
> and inadvertently
>>> pointed to the wrong location to verify
> authentication. The authentication
>>> process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by
> looking in the wrong
>>> server location. This mistake only affected Money
> services. (If you think
>>of
>>> your login information as a key, and our servers as a
> lock, then we
>>changed
>>> the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work
> anymore. There is no
>>way
>>> for the user [or anybody else] to create working login
> information. The
>>good
>>> news is that nobody could open the local file because
> of this mistake at
>>any
>>> time; your information is still protected.)
>>>
>>> We corrected the "wrong server location" problem
> Tuesday morning, and
>>users
>>> who did not login between late Monday afternoon and
> Tuesday morning should
>>> be able to use their files normally.
>>>
>>> Those who were affected may continue to be affected,
> however, since Money
>>> downloaded some of the garbled information from our
> servers. (Basically,
>>we
>>> made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we
> do this? Because
>>when
>>> you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old
> key to continue
>>working
>>> on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be
> an easy way for
>>> somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the
> locks. Of course, we
>>> will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it
> without decreasing
>>> security in the future.)
>>>
>>> This situation has not caused any
> violation of our users'
>>> privacy, and our online services have continued to be
> available.
>>>
>>> Q2: How does the fix work?
>>>
>>> A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect
> environment of Monday
>>> evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will
> allow affected
>>users
>>> to login with their current information and recover
> the lock information
>>> that has locked them out. This will allow them to
> unlock their file. It is
>>> important to note that users who changed their
> password should use their
>>new
>>> password, and that no user will be able to access the
> lock information for
>>> another user.
>>>
>>> Again, this solution does not violate our
> users' privacy. We
>>are
>>> using your login information to restore the lock to
> your unique key.
>>>
>>> Users who have been unable to access their
> local files should
>>> open a web browser to
> http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
>>> the directions on that page.
>>>
>>> Q3: Why did it take so long?
>>>
>>> A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our
> first efforts were
>>to
>>> restore the correct configuration of our servers,
> while preserving the
>>state
>>> they were in for investigation.
>>>
>>> Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact
> on users.
>>Naturally,
>>> we are very careful when dealing with users' login
> information and follow
>>> strict procedures to protect their privacy.
>>>
>>> We have identified three different states that users'
> files can be in, and
>>> we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it
> was important that
>>> the fix be thorough.
>>>
>>> At all times we were working as directly and hard as
> possible at getting a
>>> solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.
>>>
>>> Q4: What if I still can't access my file?
>>>
>>> A4: You should send email to
> mnyngsup@microsoft.com.
>>>
>>> Q5: Was this Passport's fault?
>>>
>>> A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and
> always did work for
>>access
>>> to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The
> issue relates to
>>Money's
>>> server interactions with local Money files.
>>>
>>> Q6: Why does Money use Passport for the local
> file?
>>>
>>> A6: We use Passport for a number of web services
> at Microsoft,
>>> including financial web services that we offer through
> Microsoft Money.
>>> Since the local file can access these services, the
> file needs to be
>>> protected as well. For ease of use, we use the same
> system, Passport, to
>>> protect access to the local file. Users that do not
> use the web services
>>do
>>> not have to use Passport for the local file.
>>>
>>> -Russ Paul-Jones
>>> MSN Money
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>



Re: Sign in solution is availble by frustrated

frustrated
Fri Jul 30 06:37:39 CDT 2004

I did - sent a detailed email... hoping for a reply and
fix soon.

It's very disappointing that the "money key fix" doesn't
actually say anything except to call or email for more
help.

>-----Original Message-----
>Have you emailed to mnyngsup@microsoft.com as in Russ's
instructions?
>

>

Re: Sign in solution is availble by Craig

Craig
Fri Jul 30 06:42:08 CDT 2004

You might be signed in to the web page with a different passport than the
one on your money file. This was the case for me (I have a different
passport on my Money file than the one I use in real life).

If so, click the Sign Out button at the top of the page. Then click Sign In
button at the top of the page you end up at, sign in with your Money
passport, and type the URL given by Russ into the address box. It should
work, if this is your issue. It worked for me.

Craig


"Still not working" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:716a01c47624$546916d0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> This fix does not work at all for me. I cannot open my
> primary file, and cannot restore a backup. The money key
> wizard simply tells me that I need to contact PSS for
> additional support.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Don't understand any of that, but it certainly worked
> for me!
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Richard
> >
> >
> >"Russ Paul-Jones" <russpj@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:eG2ikZfdEHA.3044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> Redmond, July 18, 2004, 22:00 PDT
> >>
> >> I'm sorry that this post is so late, and I know that
> folks are frustrated
> >> with the lack of communication. We have been on the
> verge of good news all
> >> afternoon (and evening), and it is here.
> >>
> >> I'm happy to announce that we have published a
> solution to the sign-in
> >> problem. Users that have been unable to use the
> passwords or work with
> >their
> >> files offline should follow the directions at:
> >> http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp
> >>
> >> I know that there are additional questions, which I
> have answered below.
> >>
> >> Q1: What happened with our passwords?
> >>
> >> A1: On Monday, one of our servers was updated
> and inadvertently
> >> pointed to the wrong location to verify
> authentication. The authentication
> >> process worked perfectly - we caused the problem by
> looking in the wrong
> >> server location. This mistake only affected Money
> services. (If you think
> >of
> >> your login information as a key, and our servers as a
> lock, then we
> >changed
> >> the lock on the safe, and the old key wouldn't work
> anymore. There is no
> >way
> >> for the user [or anybody else] to create working login
> information. The
> >good
> >> news is that nobody could open the local file because
> of this mistake at
> >any
> >> time; your information is still protected.)
> >>
> >> We corrected the "wrong server location" problem
> Tuesday morning, and
> >users
> >> who did not login between late Monday afternoon and
> Tuesday morning should
> >> be able to use their files normally.
> >>
> >> Those who were affected may continue to be affected,
> however, since Money
> >> downloaded some of the garbled information from our
> servers. (Basically,
> >we
> >> made a copy of the lock on your local file. Why did we
> do this? Because
> >when
> >> you change the lock yourself, you don't want the old
> key to continue
> >working
> >> on your local file. You also wouldn't want there to be
> an easy way for
> >> somebody on your machine to ignore the change in the
> locks. Of course, we
> >> will look at this scenario to see if we could solve it
> without decreasing
> >> security in the future.)
> >>
> >> This situation has not caused any
> violation of our users'
> >> privacy, and our online services have continued to be
> available.
> >>
> >> Q2: How does the fix work?
> >>
> >> A2: We have carefully recreated the incorrect
> environment of Monday
> >> evening and a Web page to access it. The web page will
> allow affected
> >users
> >> to login with their current information and recover
> the lock information
> >> that has locked them out. This will allow them to
> unlock their file. It is
> >> important to note that users who changed their
> password should use their
> >new
> >> password, and that no user will be able to access the
> lock information for
> >> another user.
> >>
> >> Again, this solution does not violate our
> users' privacy. We
> >are
> >> using your login information to restore the lock to
> your unique key.
> >>
> >> Users who have been unable to access their
> local files should
> >> open a web browser to
> http://sync.money.msn.com/help/pss/w1.asp and follow
> >> the directions on that page.
> >>
> >> Q3: Why did it take so long?
> >>
> >> A3: We have addressed the problem in stages. Our
> first efforts were
> >to
> >> restore the correct configuration of our servers,
> while preserving the
> >state
> >> they were in for investigation.
> >>
> >> Then, we started a careful investigation of the impact
> on users.
> >Naturally,
> >> we are very careful when dealing with users' login
> information and follow
> >> strict procedures to protect their privacy.
> >>
> >> We have identified three different states that users'
> files can be in, and
> >> we worked on fixes for all of them. We realize that it
> was important that
> >> the fix be thorough.
> >>
> >> At all times we were working as directly and hard as
> possible at getting a
> >> solution out to the affected users as soon as possible.
> >>
> >> Q4: What if I still can't access my file?
> >>
> >> A4: You should send email to
> mnyngsup@microsoft.com.
> >>
> >> Q5: Was this Passport's fault?
> >>
> >> A5: No. Passport was working correctly, and
> always did work for
> >access
> >> to our online services, such as MSN Bill Pay. The
> issue relates to
> >Money's
> >> server interactions with local Money files.
> >>
> >> Q6: Why does Money use Passport