Repair a Money data file? MS Money or MSN Money?

I've posted here before about trouble accessing one bank in my MS Money
setup. I'm using MS Money 07 Deluxe on a WinXP Pro SP2 computer. It's
now been well over a month since I've been able to download
transactions from this bank.

Last week, I had an online chat with a MS support rep. Unfortunately,
I had to cut the session short, after over an hour, because I had a
meeting I had to attend. And with one thing and another, I'd rather
not go through the chat again and paying for phone support is a very
last option.

Anyway, to sum up: I tried accessing the data via the MSN Money site
and it, too, was unable to download transactions from the bank. So he
had me create a second Windows LiveID and setup my banking info through
the new one... and it worked. But it was empty of all of my historical
data. And then when I used the new login with MS Money, I got
"duplicate account" warnings, and offers to merge the dupes.

When the accounts were merged, I again lost the ability to use the
online services. So in the meantime, I've deleted the new database and
restored from the most then-recent backup, so I am essentially back to
square one.

How do I resolve this issue?

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Cal
Mon Jun 18 17:31:56 CDT 2007

In microsoft.public.money, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

>I've posted here before about trouble accessing one bank in my MS Money
>setup. I'm using MS Money 07 Deluxe on a WinXP Pro SP2 computer. It's
>now been well over a month since I've been able to download
>transactions from this bank.
>
>Last week, I had an online chat with a MS support rep. Unfortunately,
>I had to cut the session short, after over an hour, because I had a
>meeting I had to attend. And with one thing and another, I'd rather
>not go through the chat again and paying for phone support is a very
>last option.
>
>Anyway, to sum up: I tried accessing the data via the MSN Money site
>and it, too, was unable to download transactions from the bank. So he
>had me create a second Windows LiveID and setup my banking info through
>the new one... and it worked. But it was empty of all of my historical
>data. And then when I used the new login with MS Money, I got
>"duplicate account" warnings, and offers to merge the dupes.
>
>When the accounts were merged, I again lost the ability to use the
>online services. So in the meantime, I've deleted the new database and
>restored from the most then-recent backup, so I am essentially back to
>square one.
>
>How do I resolve this issue?


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/329840/en-us
might offer some info, but I assume you have been thru those items.


Did you try disabling background banking in Microsoft Money,
removing your data from MSN Money, and then see if Microsoft Money
could get things going again?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323964/en-us

Jeffrey
Mon Jun 18 20:45:19 CDT 2007

It is alleged that Cal Learner-- MVP claimed:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/329840/en-us
> might offer some info, but I assume you have been thru those items.

| â?¢ The system date and time are not correct.

My date/time are correct, Windows XP is automatically synching the time
with a time server.

| â?¢ The Microsoft Passport Network account information is not valid.

My LiveID login info is valid.

| â?¢ There is a specific error message that is associated with one or more of your accounts.

There are no specific error messages to any account.

| â?¢ Your Money account name contains characters that are not supported.

My account name(s) all use plain us-ascii characters.

| â?¢ Microsoft Internet Explorer or the Temporary Internet files contains information that is not valid.

I do not use MSIE myself, except for MS-owned sites, and/or only when
it's the embedded rendering engine for something else. I have cleared
the cache, history, and activeX controls, etc.

| â?¢ A program, a Web service, or a setting is interfering with the synchronization process.

Nope.

| â?¢ Your Money data file contains information that is damaged or inconsistent.

Maybe... and if so that's what I'm trying to fix.

| â?¢ Your installation of Money is corrupted.

Nope. It works otherwise, and as I stated I was able to download the
data when I created a new login, but the problem returned when I merged
the new and old data.

| â?¢ Your installation of Internet Explorer is corrupted or is outdated.

Nope to both. It's MSIE 7, btw.

| â?¢ You left the Money data file turned on and signed in to the Passport Network overnight.

I shut down my computer overnight.

| â?¢ A program that is running in the background is interfering with Money.

Nope.

> Did you try disabling background banking in Microsoft Money,

Yes, shortly after installing Money 07. I wound up re-enabling it
because it broke some other functionality I wanted.

> removing your data from MSN Money, and then see if Microsoft Money
> could get things going again?

Does moving my mny file and creating a new LiveID account count? If so
then yes. But what it downloads is complete only to a point, and
anything older than that is non-existent and I need my historical data,
both from my current accounts and my old/closed accounts elsewhere.

Now that we've taken care of the obvious (I hope), what's next?

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Cal
Mon Jun 18 21:10:43 CDT 2007

In microsoft.public.money, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

>It is alleged that Cal Learner-- MVP claimed:

>> removing your data from MSN Money, and then see if Microsoft Money
>> could get things going again?
>
>Does moving my mny file and creating a new LiveID account count?

I wouldn't think so.

To remove your data from the MSN Money servers, you must sign in to
MSN Money by using the same Windows Live ID/Passport (that you have
on the Money file), and then remove your account.

I would then uninstall MSN Money Investment Toolbox from the
Add/Remove Programs of Windows.

I would then set up one of accounts that needs for the data to go
thru a third party for online access. When/if you get the
transactions they will be in a new account. Let's hope the merge
works properly for you this time.


> If so
>then yes. But what it downloads is complete only to a point, and
>anything older than that is non-existent and I need my historical data,
>both from my current accounts and my old/closed accounts elsewhere.
>
>Now that we've taken care of the obvious (I hope), what's next?

Finding Financial Institutions with their own OFX servers? Then you
won't even need a Live ID/Passport on your Microsoft Money file to
download transactions.

Jeffrey
Tue Jun 19 21:47:34 CDT 2007

It is alleged that Cal Learner-- MVP claimed:

> >Does moving my mny file and creating a new LiveID account count?
>
> I wouldn't think so.
>
> To remove your data from the MSN Money servers, you must sign in to
> MSN Money by using the same Windows Live ID/Passport (that you have
> on the Money file), and then remove your account.

Ok, I can do that (later, not right now).

> I would then uninstall MSN Money Investment Toolbox from the
> Add/Remove Programs of Windows.

There is no such entry in my Add/Remove Programs control panel.

> >Now that we've taken care of the obvious (I hope), what's next?
>
> Finding Financial Institutions with their own OFX servers? Then you
> won't even need a Live ID/Passport on your Microsoft Money file to
> download transactions.

I like my bank. I just want something that used to work to work again.

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