Quicken 2006 review

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1996812,00.asp

Money 2007 review:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1996582,00.asp

Bruce.

Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by Bruce

Bruce
Wed Aug 02 09:01:40 CDT 2006

"Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote in message
news:uaP6zrjtGHA.476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Quicken 2006 review

That should have said Quicken 2007 review, not 2006, but the links are
correct.

Bruce.



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by Dick

Dick
Wed Aug 02 09:37:36 CDT 2006

So scanning in documents is the key ingredient. Yikes. Next we need it to
add a voice recorder so it can record and store your ugly calls with the
phone company to sort out billing errors. Maybe they should add a
counterfeit money printing feature?

Remember these things above all else about the annual reviews:

1) The reviewers don't actually use the products from day-to-day for their
personal finances. (Anybody who says Money "[r]equires Windows Live ID for
maximum security" clearly has read the dialog boxes that tell her this, but
not understood that it doesn't actually mean much. What's the increase in
"security" from a local Money file with no password or anything to the same
file using Passport for authentication? I'd love to hear a spirited defense
of that.)

2) The magazines exist to sell advertisers access to reader's eyeballs.
Intuit and Microsoft are advertisers. Hence, they are **the** customers of
the magazines. (Note no mention of the Essentials edition, and no mention of
Deluxe as a sensible and cheaper alternate to Premium for many people. Note
also that the "pick of the litter" selection alternates annually. Who will
be shocked when M08 has the pick next year whether or not it adds scanned
documents?)

"Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote in message
news:uaP6zrjtGHA.476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Quicken 2006 review
>
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1996812,00.asp
>
> Money 2007 review:
>
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1996582,00.asp



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by Bruce

Bruce
Wed Aug 02 18:09:39 CDT 2006

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:uY7K0EktGHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> So scanning in documents is the key ingredient. Yikes. Next we need it to
> add a voice recorder so it can record and store your ugly calls with the
> phone company to sort out billing errors.

As if our Money files weren't already bigger than we would like. Imaging
how big it would be if we scanned all our bills and receipts!

I say no thanks to the scanning feature.

Bruce.



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by Chris

Chris
Wed Aug 02 18:43:34 CDT 2006

Not to disagree with your opinion about the value, but I suspect the
scanned documents are not in the Quicken database, per se. More likely,
it's a link to an external file.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL


"Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:%23yak5iotGHA.3552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> As if our Money files weren't already bigger than we would like. Imaging
> how big it would be if we scanned all our bills and receipts!
>
> I say no thanks to the scanning feature.



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by Dick

Dick
Wed Aug 02 18:58:39 CDT 2006

Let's assume that's how it works. (Can't say. Don't know. Wouldn't be at all
surprised.) So, basically, it's no more integrated than, say, a note in the
memo field and completely fragile if I move the target file or some such.

This is a "flash and trash" feature: Sounds really cool to some people.
Isn't as cool as it looks. Next to nobody actually uses it.

"Chris Cowles" <spam_magnet@remove-me-bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:uw2gE2otGHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Not to disagree with your opinion about the value, but I suspect the
> scanned documents are not in the Quicken database, per se. More likely,
> it's a link to an external file.



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by Bruce

Bruce
Wed Aug 02 19:33:31 CDT 2006

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:%23FnlI%23otGHA.4456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Let's assume that's how it works. (Can't say. Don't know. Wouldn't be at
> all surprised.) So, basically, it's no more integrated than, say, a note
> in the memo field and completely fragile if I move the target file or some
> such.

That sounds right. From what I could find in the newsgroups, you have to
first scan the documents using another program.

"And Quicken then "copies" the image and stores it in a subdirectory within
a directory named "Attach". The Attach directory is a subdirectory within
the directory that holds your Quicken data files. So Quicken will duplicate
all the data you already have ......."

Bruce.



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by XB77

XB77
Wed Aug 02 22:00:42 CDT 2006

Ironically The Wall Street Journal's Walt Mossberg did review Money
Essentials and Quicken Basic today: "Financial Software, Made Simple," WSJ,
8/2/06, page D1. Some quotes:
..."But both software makers realize that there are only a limited number
of customers for complicated, deep financial software. So, both are moving
this year to simplify things for the rest of us who aren't as enamored by
ledgers and numbers, but still might like to get a better handle on how we
spend our money. This week, we reviewed new versions of these top financial
programs that omit or play down their most intimidating features, focusing
instead on simple budgeting and online bill payments."
...
"Both programs did a good job of minding their target audiences: normal
people who want a simple program without dizzying charts and confusing
set-up processes. Microsoft Money Essentials offered a cleaner interface
with less clutter on the screen, but we could see more information at a
quick glance on the Quicken Basic home page, which we preferred. And
overall, Quicken seemed to offer a more detailed, yet still easy-to-use,
program that we think is more appealing to users."...

Doesn't give us much hope about Money improving, just getting dumber..


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:uY7K0EktGHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> So scanning in documents is the key ingredient. Yikes. Next we need it to
> add a voice recorder so it can record and store your ugly calls with the
> phone company to sort out billing errors. Maybe they should add a
> counterfeit money printing feature?
>
> Remember these things above all else about the annual reviews:
>
> 1) The reviewers don't actually use the products from day-to-day for their
> personal finances. (Anybody who says Money "[r]equires Windows Live ID for
> maximum security" clearly has read the dialog boxes that tell her this,
> but
> not understood that it doesn't actually mean much. What's the increase in
> "security" from a local Money file with no password or anything to the
> same
> file using Passport for authentication? I'd love to hear a spirited
> defense
> of that.)
>
> 2) The magazines exist to sell advertisers access to reader's eyeballs.
> Intuit and Microsoft are advertisers. Hence, they are **the** customers of
> the magazines. (Note no mention of the Essentials edition, and no mention
> of
> Deluxe as a sensible and cheaper alternate to Premium for many people.
> Note
> also that the "pick of the litter" selection alternates annually. Who will
> be shocked when M08 has the pick next year whether or not it adds scanned
> documents?)
>
> "Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote in message
> news:uaP6zrjtGHA.476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Quicken 2006 review
>>
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1996812,00.asp
>>
>> Money 2007 review:
>>
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1996582,00.asp
>
>



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by Dick

Dick
Wed Aug 02 23:50:36 CDT 2006

There you have it.

Of course I long since discounted most anything Mossberg writes.

"XB77" <XB77@My-Deja.com> wrote in message
news:12d2pmr1qfpe3c8@corp.supernews.com...
> Doesn't give us much hope about Money improving, just getting dumber..



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by yooperz

yooperz
Thu Aug 03 08:26:29 CDT 2006

You no longer need to use an outside application to scan files into
quicken, that was so in Quicken 2006 but not Quicken 2007. The images
are saved in a separate database, which will along with Quicken data
files In Quicken 2007, images are pulled into Quicken from a scanner,
file or off the clipboard and you do this all from within Quicken.

For more information:
http://financialsoft.about.com/od/quickenreviews/a/Q07BestFeatures.htm

Have a great day!

Shelley
------------------
Shelley Elmblad
About Financial Software
http://finacialsoft.about.com

Bruce Chastain wrote:
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:%23FnlI%23otGHA.4456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Let's assume that's how it works. (Can't say. Don't know. Wouldn't be at
> > all surprised.) So, basically, it's no more integrated than, say, a note
> > in the memo field and completely fragile if I move the target file or some
> > such.
>
> That sounds right. From what I could find in the newsgroups, you have to
> first scan the documents using another program.
>
> "And Quicken then "copies" the image and stores it in a subdirectory within
> a directory named "Attach". The Attach directory is a subdirectory within
> the directory that holds your Quicken data files. So Quicken will duplicate
> all the data you already have ......."
>
> Bruce.


Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by XB77

XB77
Thu Aug 03 14:29:24 CDT 2006

Dick, I am eagerly awaiting your final word about upgrading from M04 to M07
and any accompanying rationale. I have been reading the various posts
indicating a variety of work arounds, fixes, etc., that may comprise an
off-label installation/conversion guide with some trepidation.

Thanks for all your efforts.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:ObYIRhrtGHA.4852@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> There you have it.
>
> Of course I long since discounted most anything Mossberg writes.
>
> "XB77" <XB77@My-Deja.com> wrote in message
> news:12d2pmr1qfpe3c8@corp.supernews.com...
>> Doesn't give us much hope about Money improving, just getting dumber..
>
>



Re: Quicken gets the Editor's Choice this year by Dick

Dick
Thu Aug 03 17:38:36 CDT 2006

I'm just about committed to M07 vs. M04. I'll probably have a page--the
whole M07 update is a Work In (Slow) Progress right now--on the web site
that will address at least some the kinds of topics you mention. I don't
think it will be a ringing endorsement of M07 or anything, but there are
reasons not to try to stick with the old version ad nauseum. Too bad it
isn't a compelling upgrade in any sense. Maybe if they'd added document
scanning...

"XB77" <XB77@My-Deja.com> wrote in message
news:12d4jkn7pq76d20@corp.supernews.com...
> I am eagerly awaiting your final word about upgrading from M04 to M07
> and any accompanying rationale. I have been reading the various posts
> indicating a variety of work arounds, fixes, etc., that may comprise an
> off-label installation/conversion guide with some trepidation.
>
> Thanks for all your efforts.