Portfolio Manager the same old Problem

Hi
After opening 2 tickets, number of unanswered emails and waiting for 2
months I still didn't received final respond from MS Tech Support. So much
for free support. This is how we leaned ... See problem description below.
This problem starts some where around Money 2003.
I am thinking about going back from my 2006 version to 2003 or 2004 version.
I found a couple of messages on this site, from people who had the same
problem. Does any body know for sure, what was the last version that didn't
have this problem - 2002, 2003, 2004, so I can try to reinstall it in place
of 2006?
Problem description:
In Money 2006 Portfolio Manager, does not show closed option trades with
the past expiration dates, even when the "show closed positions" is checked.
The transactions are still there in the transactions records, just not
visible in portfolio manager. This problem exists starting some where around
Money 2003.

Thank in advance for any help.

Cal
Tue May 16 12:47:24 CDT 2006

In microsoft.public.money, Sandac wrote:

>I am thinking about going back from my 2006 version to 2003 or 2004 version.

Careful there. Those versions did not allow you to change the symbol
for an option. Think about LEAPS that get within 9 months of
expiration. Think about the fact that options routinely re-use
symbols after expiration. And while in use for one security, you
can't use the same symbol for something else.

You could use the old method of calling an option a stock.
Sell/CoverShort for $0 to expire. That does not do anything to
integrate handling of the case of exercised options tho.

I have not tried to replicate your bug. Does the option position
appear if you use the AsOf box to go before the option expired?

If you do a SellToClose or BuyToClose for $0 instead of expire
transaction, does that work around the problem? Or is the fact that
the date is past expiration make the option not appear?

Sandac
Tue May 16 13:16:02 CDT 2006

Thaks for "a SellToClose or BuyToClose for $0" idea. I will try it.
Can you please, explain more about "use the AsOf box to go before the option
expired".
What "AsOf" box?
Thanks.

Sam.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

> In microsoft.public.money, Sandac wrote:
>
> >I am thinking about going back from my 2006 version to 2003 or 2004 version.
>
> Careful there. Those versions did not allow you to change the symbol
> for an option. Think about LEAPS that get within 9 months of
> expiration. Think about the fact that options routinely re-use
> symbols after expiration. And while in use for one security, you
> can't use the same symbol for something else.
>
> You could use the old method of calling an option a stock.
> Sell/CoverShort for $0 to expire. That does not do anything to
> integrate handling of the case of exercised options tho.
>
> I have not tried to replicate your bug. Does the option position
> appear if you use the AsOf box to go before the option expired?
>
> If you do a SellToClose or BuyToClose for $0 instead of expire
> transaction, does that work around the problem? Or is the fact that
> the date is past expiration make the option not appear?
>
>

Cal
Tue May 16 13:42:33 CDT 2006

In microsoft.public.money, Sandac wrote:

>Thaks for "a SellToClose or BuyToClose for $0" idea. I will try it.
>Can you please, explain more about "use the AsOf box to go before the option
>expired".
>What "AsOf" box?

To the upper right of the Portfolio is a box that says "As Of". You
select/enter a date to see where you stood at an earlier time.

Sandac
Tue May 16 15:59:02 CDT 2006

Thanks I'll try.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

> In microsoft.public.money, Sandac wrote:
>
> >Thaks for "a SellToClose or BuyToClose for $0" idea. I will try it.
> >Can you please, explain more about "use the AsOf box to go before the option
> >expired".
> >What "AsOf" box?
>
> To the upper right of the Portfolio is a box that says "As Of". You
> select/enter a date to see where you stood at an earlier time.
>
>

arthur
Tue May 16 19:30:11 CDT 2006

OptionsXpress will show you all trades by underlying asset for a time
period. In Money you should use a unique name which includes the
year. I modify the month to add year eg MAY06 in the option name.

I would suggest creating a spreadsheet to do this. OpenOffice is a
free office suite including spreadsheet CALC modeled after SUN office.

arthur
==

On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:59:02 -0700, Sandac
<Sandac@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Thanks I'll try.
>
>"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
>
>> In microsoft.public.money, Sandac wrote:
>>
>> >Thaks for "a SellToClose or BuyToClose for $0" idea. I will try it.
>> >Can you please, explain more about "use the AsOf box to go before the option
>> >expired".
>> >What "AsOf" box?
>>
>> To the upper right of the Portfolio is a box that says "As Of". You
>> select/enter a date to see where you stood at an earlier time.

Sandac
Wed May 17 02:02:01 CDT 2006

I just tried both:
SellToClose or BuyToClose for $0 instead and AsOf box

NOTHING WORK.

????????


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

> In microsoft.public.money, Sandac wrote:
>
> >I am thinking about going back from my 2006 version to 2003 or 2004 version.
>
> Careful there. Those versions did not allow you to change the symbol
> for an option. Think about LEAPS that get within 9 months of
> expiration. Think about the fact that options routinely re-use
> symbols after expiration. And while in use for one security, you
> can't use the same symbol for something else.
>
> You could use the old method of calling an option a stock.
> Sell/CoverShort for $0 to expire. That does not do anything to
> integrate handling of the case of exercised options tho.
>
> I have not tried to replicate your bug. Does the option position
> appear if you use the AsOf box to go before the option expired?
>
> If you do a SellToClose or BuyToClose for $0 instead of expire
> transaction, does that work around the problem? Or is the fact that
> the date is past expiration make the option not appear?
>
>