Money 07 SP1 still has a bug.

SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.

If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
before Money closes then choose File > Close
The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
opens.

You're given the button options of "Settings...",
"Back Up Now" and "Postpone".

Each being self explanatory.

However, if you change your mind about
closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
upper right hand corner of the window,
closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
button instead of just closing the window and
letting you return to using Money.

I know that this bug has been present for a few
versions now. I wish MS would address it.

-Kevin

Steve
Sun Nov 12 10:07:44 CST 2006

This is not a bug it is By Design
Steve
"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.
>
> If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
> before Money closes then choose File > Close
> The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
> opens.
>
> You're given the button options of "Settings...",
> "Back Up Now" and "Postpone".
>
> Each being self explanatory.
>
> However, if you change your mind about
> closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
> upper right hand corner of the window,
> closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
> button instead of just closing the window and
> letting you return to using Money.
>
> I know that this bug has been present for a few
> versions now. I wish MS would address it.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
>
>

Steve
Sun Nov 12 10:09:13 CST 2006

Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money quickly
and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X and play
around with your personal data.
Steve
"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.
>
> If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
> before Money closes then choose File > Close
> The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
> opens.
>
> You're given the button options of "Settings...",
> "Back Up Now" and "Postpone".
>
> Each being self explanatory.
>
> However, if you change your mind about
> closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
> upper right hand corner of the window,
> closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
> button instead of just closing the window and
> letting you return to using Money.
>
> I know that this bug has been present for a few
> versions now. I wish MS would address it.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
>
>

Kevin
Sun Nov 12 10:56:38 CST 2006

Thanks Steve,

Why bother having the "X" at all then?

-Kevin

"Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O9s$uYnBHHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money
> quickly and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X
> and play around with your personal data.
> Steve
> "Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.
>>
>> If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
>> before Money closes then choose File > Close
>> The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
>> opens.
>>
>> You're given the button options of "Settings...",
>> "Back Up Now" and "Postpone".
>>
>> Each being self explanatory.
>>
>> However, if you change your mind about
>> closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
>> upper right hand corner of the window,
>> closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
>> button instead of just closing the window and
>> letting you return to using Money.
>>
>> I know that this bug has been present for a few
>> versions now. I wish MS would address it.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

johnbusc
Sun Nov 12 11:01:53 CST 2006



On Nov 12, 11:07 am, "Steve" <steven_morriso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> This is not a bug it is By Design


The loan payment mess in M07 Bills Summary was by design until it
officially became a fixed bug in SP1.

JB

Steve
Sun Nov 12 10:56:06 CST 2006

To make it look pretty lol
I beta tested 05-06-07 and that backup thing is By Design and wont be
changed in 07 beta I suggested for it to be changed and that was alsot the
response I got
Steve
"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:O1tAGunBHHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Steve,
>
> Why bother having the "X" at all then?
>
> -Kevin
>
> "Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O9s$uYnBHHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money
>> quickly and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the
>> X and play around with your personal data.
>> Steve
>> "Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.
>>>
>>> If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
>>> before Money closes then choose File > Close
>>> The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
>>> opens.
>>>
>>> You're given the button options of "Settings...",
>>> "Back Up Now" and "Postpone".
>>>
>>> Each being self explanatory.
>>>
>>> However, if you change your mind about
>>> closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
>>> upper right hand corner of the window,
>>> closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
>>> button instead of just closing the window and
>>> letting you return to using Money.
>>>
>>> I know that this bug has been present for a few
>>> versions now. I wish MS would address it.
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Steve
Sun Nov 12 12:03:44 CST 2006

I agree completely but its been suggested during beta and its By Design this
may not be the reason but only reason I can think of MS also stated would be
too hard to rescript the backup dialog which I dont see why it only takes
two minutes to add the code for it
Steve
"Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices"
<spamfree-silvernino@hotmail.spambegone.com> wrote in message
news:lfoel25avgpghoodthqid1i8ael7v0l3t2@4ax.com...
> "Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money
>>quickly
>>and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X and
>>play
>>around with your personal data.
>
> That is a pretty ridiculous reason if that was it. It isn't like
> the box takes 30 seconds to show up.
>
> It annoys me the "X" doesn't cancel the close operation.
> --
> __________________________________________________________________________________
> Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of all)
> What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/
> Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com
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Steve
Sun Nov 12 12:05:52 CST 2006

If this was the only reason why even if they made it if the dialog is left
opened for more then 15 seconds it closes the program itself would work
Steve
"Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices"
<spamfree-silvernino@hotmail.spambegone.com> wrote in message
news:lfoel25avgpghoodthqid1i8ael7v0l3t2@4ax.com...
> "Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money
>>quickly
>>and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X and
>>play
>>around with your personal data.
>
> That is a pretty ridiculous reason if that was it. It isn't like
> the box takes 30 seconds to show up.
>
> It annoys me the "X" doesn't cancel the close operation.
> --
> __________________________________________________________________________________
> Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of all)
> What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/
> Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com
> What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Steve
Sun Nov 12 12:14:13 CST 2006

By clicking escape on your keyboard you are able to cancel this dialog
without it closing money
Steve
"Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23Ufa6ZoBHHA.4908@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> If this was the only reason why even if they made it if the dialog is left
> opened for more then 15 seconds it closes the program itself would work
> Steve
> "Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices"
> <spamfree-silvernino@hotmail.spambegone.com> wrote in message
> news:lfoel25avgpghoodthqid1i8ael7v0l3t2@4ax.com...
>> "Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money
>>>quickly
>>>and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X and
>>>play
>>>around with your personal data.
>>
>> That is a pretty ridiculous reason if that was it. It isn't like
>> the box takes 30 seconds to show up.
>>
>> It annoys me the "X" doesn't cancel the close operation.
>> --
>> __________________________________________________________________________________
>> Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of
>> all)
>> What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/
>> Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com
>> What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
>

Steve
Sun Nov 12 12:19:07 CST 2006

Never mind my post listed below this works on every US verison up to 2004
and works on money 2005 UK
Steve
"Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObrgleoBHHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> By clicking escape on your keyboard you are able to cancel this dialog
> without it closing money
> Steve
> "Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Ufa6ZoBHHA.4908@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If this was the only reason why even if they made it if the dialog is
>> left opened for more then 15 seconds it closes the program itself would
>> work
>> Steve
>> "Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices"
>> <spamfree-silvernino@hotmail.spambegone.com> wrote in message
>> news:lfoel25avgpghoodthqid1i8ael7v0l3t2@4ax.com...
>>> "Steve" <steven_morrison69@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money
>>>>quickly
>>>>and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X and
>>>>play
>>>>around with your personal data.
>>>
>>> That is a pretty ridiculous reason if that was it. It isn't like
>>> the box takes 30 seconds to show up.
>>>
>>> It annoys me the "X" doesn't cancel the close operation.
>>> --
>>> __________________________________________________________________________________
>>> Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of
>>> all)
>>> What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/
>>> Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com
>>> What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>
>>
>
>

johnbusc
Sun Nov 12 12:59:03 CST 2006



On Nov 12, 1:14 pm, "Steve" <steven_morriso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> By clicking escape on your keyboard you are able to cancel this dialog
> without it closing money

Steve,

Hitting escape on my keyboard produces the same result as Postpone
(Money 2007 closes). Which version are you running again?

Regards,
JB

johnbusc
Sun Nov 12 13:03:11 CST 2006

Steve,

Sorry! Our posts crossed.

JB

JB wrote:
Steve,

Hitting escape on my keyboard produces the same result as Postpone
(Money 2007 closes). Which version are you running again?


Regards,
JB

On Nov 12, 1:19 pm, "Steve" <steven_morriso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Never mind my post listed below this works on every US verison up to 2004
> and works on money 2005 UK
> Steve"Steve" <steven_morriso...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:Obrgleo=
BHHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > By clicking escape on your keyboard you are able to cancel this dialog
> > without it closing money
> > Steve
> > "Steve" <steven_morriso...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:%23Ufa6ZoBHHA.4908@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> If this was the only reason why even if they made it if the dialog is
> >> left opened for more then 15 seconds it closes the program itself would
> >> work
> >> Steve
> >> "Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices"
> >> <spamfree-silvern...@hotmail.spambegone.com> wrote in message
> >>news:lfoel25avgpghoodthqid1i8ael7v0l3t2@4ax.com...
> >>> "Steve" <steven_morriso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money
> >>>>quickly
> >>>>and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X and
> >>>>play
> >>>>around with your personal data.
>
> >>> That is a pretty ridiculous reason if that was it. It isn't like
> >>> the box takes 30 seconds to show up.
>
> >>> It annoys me the "X" doesn't cancel the close operation.
> >>> --
> >>> _____________________________________________________________________=
______=AD_______
> >>> Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of
> >>> all)
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Cal
Sun Nov 12 13:57:10 CST 2006

In microsoft.public.money, Steve wrote:

>Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money quickly
>and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X and play
>around with your personal data.

By that logic, if you told the computer to shut down and you walked
away, Money would shut down.



>Steve
>"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.
>>
>> If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
>> before Money closes then choose File > Close
>> The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
>> opens.
>>
>> You're given the button options of "Settings...",
>> "Back Up Now" and "Postpone".
>>
>> Each being self explanatory.
>>
>> However, if you change your mind about
>> closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
>> upper right hand corner of the window,
>> closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
>> button instead of just closing the window and
>> letting you return to using Money.
>>
>> I know that this bug has been present for a few
>> versions now. I wish MS would address it.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Steve
Sun Nov 12 13:58:18 CST 2006

I agree but that is what I was told I have asked several times for it to be
fixed and was just told it was By Design
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:f2vel2h773jmn5qodn3leasivn80pv1djn@4ax.com...
> In microsoft.public.money, Steve wrote:
>
>>Beleive I should better explain it is designed so if you close money
>>quickly
>>and walk away from the computer another user cannot go click the X and
>>play
>>around with your personal data.
>
> By that logic, if you told the computer to shut down and you walked
> away, Money would shut down.
>
>
>
>>Steve
>>"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.
>>>
>>> If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
>>> before Money closes then choose File > Close
>>> The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
>>> opens.
>>>
>>> You're given the button options of "Settings...",
>>> "Back Up Now" and "Postpone".
>>>
>>> Each being self explanatory.
>>>
>>> However, if you change your mind about
>>> closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
>>> upper right hand corner of the window,
>>> closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
>>> button instead of just closing the window and
>>> letting you return to using Money.
>>>
>>> I know that this bug has been present for a few
>>> versions now. I wish MS would address it.
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Dick
Sun Nov 12 15:00:32 CST 2006

Backup has so many "features" that could be "improved" that picking on just
one seems, well, petty.

"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I know that this bug has been present for a few
> versions now. I wish MS would address it.

Kevin
Sun Nov 12 15:22:09 CST 2006

Dick,
I shouldn't have to pick on this one aspect of it at all since
it used to work as it should in earlier versions.
They intentionally broke it <by design> to protect the stupid.
That's not petty.
-Kevin

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:udzxT2pBHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Backup has so many "features" that could be "improved" that picking on
> just one seems, well, petty.
>
> "Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I know that this bug has been present for a few
>> versions now. I wish MS would address it.
>
>

Dick
Sun Nov 12 15:35:50 CST 2006

I think you missed my point.

"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:exiPeCqBHHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I shouldn't have to pick on this one aspect of it at all since
> it used to work as it should in earlier versions.
> They intentionally broke it <by design> to protect the stupid.
> That's not petty.
>
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:udzxT2pBHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Backup has so many "features" that could be "improved" that picking on
>> just one seems, well, petty.
>>
>> "Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> I know that this bug has been present for a few
>>> versions now. I wish MS would address it.

Kevin
Mon Nov 13 06:19:30 CST 2006

Were you being facetious?

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:eAMGCKqBHHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I think you missed my point.
>
> "Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:exiPeCqBHHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I shouldn't have to pick on this one aspect of it at all since
>> it used to work as it should in earlier versions.
>> They intentionally broke it <by design> to protect the stupid.
>> That's not petty.
>>
>> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
>> message news:udzxT2pBHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Backup has so many "features" that could be "improved" that picking on
>>> just one seems, well, petty.
>>>
>>> "Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> I know that this bug has been present for a few
>>>> versions now. I wish MS would address it.
>
>

Dick
Mon Nov 13 11:32:19 CST 2006

Not completely.

There are MANY issues with Backup. Your's is maybe a valid point.

(Though I'll bet it's not considered a bug as Steve notes. The designer had
to pick some behavior for the close event. Why would you assume that he'd
pick cancel? I think once you've clicked close in Money, that's what it
should do. I guess I agree the close button on the dialog box is silly and
superfluous. And I agree with the poster who suggested the backup now choice
should have a timeout. I didn't close it for the fun of it and I don't want
it hanging around forever. I've had this happen many times.

Generally this happens to me because I miss my "scheduled" seventh day
backup to floppies and, not wanting to get Money off schedule, back it up by
hand to floppies on the eight or ninth day. This doesn't satisfy its urge
for the scheduled backup and it will nag for the rest of the week. If I
forget it's gonna nag, I'll Close and wander upstairs while it's doing the
on-exit compressed backup--too boring to watch. When I come back the next
morning, here's the nag sitting on the screen and I then don't trust my
11:55pm scheduled task scripted copy of the original file--made in part
because .MBFs are not always equal to .MNYs and pre-dating the ability of
Money's backup to keep multiple copies--to yet another safe store on the net
since it was made while Money was still, ahem, running.)

But there are many other issues with Backup.

Personally, I'm at a loss why I have to hand delete the old file on floppies
(nine times) to overwrite it with a new one.

I'm also at a loss why all backups like the scheduled backup don't get
treated as satisfying the scheduled backup.

Both of these were also behaviors it **used** to have.

I'm also at a loss about the apparent correlation between "Money is already
running" and something to do with how backup-on-exit terminates.

The real issue is that the whole thing is being designed for the lowest
common denominator user by people who, apparently, never actually use the
thing themselves and don't test it at all that much depth either. At some
point, you just dumb it down too much for it to still be usable to anybody
with even the slightest hint of a clue. That's the real issue that should
get fixed. Everything else is just a detail. That was my point.

"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23oYH53xBHHA.3924@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Were you being facetious?

Kevin
Mon Nov 13 13:31:02 CST 2006

DW,
Sooo you were being cynical :-)

I've never used the "Scheduled" backup in Money. I'll
have it "Automatically" back up the 7 most recent copies.

Once a week, I'll run MS Backup on the .mny file.

Do your .mbf files actually fit on a floppy? Mine usually
run about 2.5 MBs.

<The designer had to pick some behavior for the close event.>
<Why would you assume that he'd pick cancel?>

Because cancel is what the "X" used to do. And it was better!

Invariably as soon as you hit File > Close, you remember the one
thing you forgot to check or do. It was a nice feature to be able to
back out of the shut down routine.

The question is: Why did he "change" the event? The dumbing
down thing is disgraceful.

Let's face it, Money is a program that's primarily, if not exclusively
used at home. The whole malicious tampering threat just doesn't
cut it.

Thanks again for your replies.

-Kevin



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:OMLuxm0BHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Not completely.
>
> There are MANY issues with Backup. Your's is maybe a valid point.
>
> (Though I'll bet it's not considered a bug as Steve notes. The designer
> had to pick some behavior for the close event. Why would you assume that
> he'd pick cancel? I think once you've clicked close in Money, that's what
> it should do. I guess I agree the close button on the dialog box is silly
> and superfluous. And I agree with the poster who suggested the backup now
> choice should have a timeout. I didn't close it for the fun of it and I
> don't want it hanging around forever. I've had this happen many times.
>
> Generally this happens to me because I miss my "scheduled" seventh day
> backup to floppies and, not wanting to get Money off schedule, back it up
> by hand to floppies on the eight or ninth day. This doesn't satisfy its
> urge for the scheduled backup and it will nag for the rest of the week. If
> I forget it's gonna nag, I'll Close and wander upstairs while it's doing
> the on-exit compressed backup--too boring to watch. When I come back the
> next morning, here's the nag sitting on the screen and I then don't trust
> my 11:55pm scheduled task scripted copy of the original file--made in part
> because .MBFs are not always equal to .MNYs and pre-dating the ability of
> Money's backup to keep multiple copies--to yet another safe store on the
> net since it was made while Money was still, ahem, running.)
>
> But there are many other issues with Backup.
>
> Personally, I'm at a loss why I have to hand delete the old file on
> floppies (nine times) to overwrite it with a new one.
>
> I'm also at a loss why all backups like the scheduled backup don't get
> treated as satisfying the scheduled backup.
>
> Both of these were also behaviors it **used** to have.
>
> I'm also at a loss about the apparent correlation between "Money is
> already running" and something to do with how backup-on-exit terminates.
>
> The real issue is that the whole thing is being designed for the lowest
> common denominator user by people who, apparently, never actually use the
> thing themselves and don't test it at all that much depth either. At some
> point, you just dumb it down too much for it to still be usable to anybody
> with even the slightest hint of a clue. That's the real issue that should
> get fixed. Everything else is just a detail. That was my point.
>
> "Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23oYH53xBHHA.3924@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Were you being facetious?
>
>

Dick
Mon Nov 13 13:51:01 CST 2006

I'm only realistic as Money is concerned. It just seems cynical.

My backups to floppy take 9 floppies (was 12 before Nuke The Bills). It's a
pain, but it's just one more form of the many I create manually and
automagically. Even an epic EMP event would leave me only going back
approximately 6 months, provided the DVD(s) in my safe deposit box survived.

"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OGV5Bp1BHHA.4292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Sooo you were being cynical :-)
...
> Do your .mbf files actually fit on a floppy? Mine usually
> run about 2.5 MBs.

Chris
Mon Nov 13 18:30:26 CST 2006

But would you, with all the metal stuff flying around?

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> Even an epic EMP event would leave me only going back approximately 6
> months, provided the DVD(s) in my safe deposit box survived.

Dick
Mon Nov 13 19:49:10 CST 2006

Tough to say; depends on what the miss distance was. In the worst case, the
Money data would be the least of any of our problems. There are also,
reportedly, ways to create significant EMP events without the most serious
side effects.

"Chris Cowles" <spam_magnet@remove-me-bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> But would you, with all the metal stuff flying around?
>
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:%23YXGT01BHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Even an epic EMP event would leave me only going back approximately 6
>> months, provided the DVD(s) in my safe deposit box survived.

SteveC
Tue Nov 14 23:51:34 CST 2006

No version of Money seems to be able to cancel Online Updates when it =
hangs because one of your online providers doesn't answer (this applies =
to quotes updates as well). You hit cancel and it just continues to =
spin. I invariably have to CTR-ALT-DEL and end the program.

"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message =
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SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.

If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
before Money closes then choose File > Close
The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
opens.

You're given the button options of "Settings...",
"Back Up Now" and "Postpone".

Each being self explanatory.

However, if you change your mind about
closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
upper right hand corner of the window,
closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
button instead of just closing the window and
letting you return to using Money.

I know that this bug has been present for a few
versions now. I wish MS would address it.

-Kevin

Kevin
Wed Nov 15 11:58:44 CST 2006

SteveC,
Agreed. Although, on occasion, I HAVE had Online Updates eventually time
out.
But that's a bug of a different nature.
-Kevin

"SteveC" <sconklan.nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:684B0FDB-FA39-4D00-824E-052557FE7CFC@microsoft.com...
No version of Money seems to be able to cancel Online Updates when it hangs
because one of your online providers doesn't answer (this applies to quotes
updates as well). You hit cancel and it just continues to spin. I
invariably have to CTR-ALT-DEL and end the program.

"Kevin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.

If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
before Money closes then choose File > Close
The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
opens.

You're given the button options of "Settings...",
"Back Up Now" and "Postpone".

Each being self explanatory.

However, if you change your mind about
closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
upper right hand corner of the window,
closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
button instead of just closing the window and
letting you return to using Money.

I know that this bug has been present for a few
versions now. I wish MS would address it.

-Kevin