Money05 Deluxe Hangs when working with Catagories

When I try to move a Category or Delete a Category that has transactions in
it Money locks up and I just get a hourglass that will sit there forever
and the rest of my OS gets real quirky and slow. I have to Ctrl Alt Delete
to shut down Money. When I reopen the transactions that I was attempting to
move have moved to the new Category and all seems well(I guess). I'm more
then a little nervous that I'm going to end up damaging my file.
I gotta say I'm a little disgusted at this point, just got through spending
a day working out a lot of the online quirks and now this.

Don

Dick
Tue Feb 22 21:21:06 CST 2005

How long is "forever"?

Depending on how much data you have, and how fast a computer you have, this
can take a LONG time as Money has to look through all of the transactions
figuring out what to do and then doing it to all of those transaction
records. On a slow machine with lots of data, tens of minutes or more
wouldn't surprise me at all. Why does the OS get "real quirky and slow" and
the hourglass show? Because the computer is very busy. It doesn't have time
for you just now. Money isn't even listening to you at the moment. That's
why the hourglass.

"Donald" <pavier@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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> When I try to move a Category or Delete a Category that has transactions
> in
> it Money locks up and I just get a hourglass that will sit there forever
> and the rest of my OS gets real quirky and slow. I have to Ctrl Alt Delete
> to shut down Money. When I reopen the transactions that I was attempting
> to
> move have moved to the new Category and all seems well(I guess). I'm more
> then a little nervous that I'm going to end up damaging my file.
> I gotta say I'm a little disgusted at this point, just got through
> spending
> a day working out a lot of the online quirks and now this.

Donald
Tue Feb 22 22:15:11 CST 2005

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:21:06 -0700, Dick Watson wrote:

> How long is "forever"?
>
> Depending on how much data you have, and how fast a computer you have, this
> can take a LONG time as Money has to look through all of the transactions
> figuring out what to do and then doing it to all of those transaction
> records. On a slow machine with lots of data, tens of minutes or more
> wouldn't surprise me at all. Why does the OS get "real quirky and slow" and
> the hourglass show? Because the computer is very busy. It doesn't have time
> for you just now. Money isn't even listening to you at the moment. That's
> why the hourglass.



Thanks for the fast reply.
I haven't tried waiting it out more then about 10 minutes or so. I notice
that when I get to Task Manager it shows Money as Not Responding. I don't
think this is just a slowdown but some type of crash. When i say the OS
gets quirky non functional would be a better description. Which is pretty
bad as I've found XP quite crash proof to this point.
Most of the Categories I tried only had a few transactions. Seems a little
odd that for moving a category with a few transactions in it would take
this much computing power to move them to a new Category. Money should
already know which transactions need to be moved as they show up in the
Category instantly. BTW I'm running a fairly fast machine that runs most
intensive software quite well. I just tried again as I was writing this
reply and I did get one Category with 1 transaction to move but then it
locked up as I was trying to create a new Category. Now I'm just about
crashing here as I tried moving one with maybe a hundred transactions or
so.
By your reply I couldn't quite tell if you have had similar symptoms or
just a long wait. I searched the group and didn't see any other posts
complaining about this and hope maybe you or someone else can maybe guide
me to a fix. I guess my next step will be maybe to try installing on my
wife's machine and see if I get the same behavior.
Do you think this could be some type of file corruption issue?
I guess I could work around this by using find and replace but its a little
frustrating having to find workarounds for functions the software was
designed for.

Thanks again for the reply.
Don

Donald
Tue Feb 22 22:36:33 CST 2005

One problem solved others created.
I just ran the salvage utility on my file and it seems to have fixed the
Category issue but screwed up a whole bunch of other stuff. When I ran
salvage the log stated there were no broken records but it sure fixed the
categories. Now back to see if I can straighten out the other stuff. Hope
my travails may be of some help to others.
Don

ADAM
Wed Feb 23 16:53:51 CST 2005

While I agree with Dick's comment that some things just take a long time
with Money 2004 and 5 (I don't remember it being as bad in 2003) I will
point out that each time I see a non-obvious task taking longer than normal
(category moves and deletes are BIG sorts and updates for the Jet database
(which ain't so good in the first place) ) I do a repair. If quick doesn't
do it, standard comes next.

I must do a repair a couple times per month but my performance has been good
since I got into the habit.

--
ADAM PRESSMAN
"Donald" <pavier@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:21:06 -0700, Dick Watson wrote:
>
>> How long is "forever"?
>>
>> Depending on how much data you have, and how fast a computer you have,
>> this
>> can take a LONG time as Money has to look through all of the transactions
>> figuring out what to do and then doing it to all of those transaction
>> records. On a slow machine with lots of data, tens of minutes or more
>> wouldn't surprise me at all. Why does the OS get "real quirky and slow"
>> and
>> the hourglass show? Because the computer is very busy. It doesn't have
>> time
>> for you just now. Money isn't even listening to you at the moment. That's
>> why the hourglass.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the fast reply.
> I haven't tried waiting it out more then about 10 minutes or so. I notice
> that when I get to Task Manager it shows Money as Not Responding. I don't
> think this is just a slowdown but some type of crash. When i say the OS
> gets quirky non functional would be a better description. Which is
> pretty
> bad as I've found XP quite crash proof to this point.
> Most of the Categories I tried only had a few transactions. Seems a little
> odd that for moving a category with a few transactions in it would take
> this much computing power to move them to a new Category. Money should
> already know which transactions need to be moved as they show up in the
> Category instantly. BTW I'm running a fairly fast machine that runs most
> intensive software quite well. I just tried again as I was writing this
> reply and I did get one Category with 1 transaction to move but then it
> locked up as I was trying to create a new Category. Now I'm just about
> crashing here as I tried moving one with maybe a hundred transactions or
> so.
> By your reply I couldn't quite tell if you have had similar symptoms or
> just a long wait. I searched the group and didn't see any other posts
> complaining about this and hope maybe you or someone else can maybe guide
> me to a fix. I guess my next step will be maybe to try installing on my
> wife's machine and see if I get the same behavior.
> Do you think this could be some type of file corruption issue?
> I guess I could work around this by using find and replace but its a
> little
> frustrating having to find workarounds for functions the software was
> designed for.
>
> Thanks again for the reply.
> Don
>
>