Money 2004

I see that some are using this latest version.

So where is the Microsoft info on this product?

http://www.microsoft.com/money/default.asp only lists 2003 versions.

http://shop.microsoft.com/ only shows 2003 versions

http://shop.microsoft.com/special/itsnew/ only says "Coming Soon"

Where can I get a list of features so I can make an informed choice between
Quicken products and MS Money products?


Thanks
Brian W

via_newsgroup
Mon Jul 21 12:16:15 CDT 2003

In microsoft.public.money, Brian W wrote:

>
>Where can I get a list of features so I can make an informed choice between
>Quicken products and MS Money products?

Money 2004 is generally not a feature release but an effort to make
some of the features work better. Suite has been replaced with
Premium. There are some feature additions, but not so as make your
choice much clearer.

Money 2004 can convert Quicken 2003 and earlier files but not
Quicken 2004 files, when they exist.

Bob
Mon Jul 21 12:28:38 CDT 2003

When Microsoft officially release M2004 I am sure that the information will
be updated. AFAIK the likes of Amazon have jumped the release date!

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

Hints/Tips
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny
UK Wishes/Suggestions
mnyukwsh@microsoft.com

"Brian W" <brianw@gold_death_2_spam_rush.com> wrote in message
news:ePC6mX6TDHA.2204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I see that some are using this latest version.
>
> So where is the Microsoft info on this product?
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/money/default.asp only lists 2003 versions.
>
> http://shop.microsoft.com/ only shows 2003 versions
>
> http://shop.microsoft.com/special/itsnew/ only says "Coming Soon"
>
> Where can I get a list of features so I can make an informed choice
between
> Quicken products and MS Money products?
>
>
> Thanks
> Brian W
>
>
>

Dick
Mon Jul 21 12:47:41 CDT 2003

My one question is still not definitively answered: does Premium contain any
features "in the box" that Deluxe does not contain? (By "in the box" I mean
if I just install from the CD and never go to any of the partner promos and
don't do anything more online with it than get quotes and Money updates. Oh,
and I notionally exclude things that aren't in Money.exe--like the
Kiplinger/TaxCut stuff that 03 Suite included.)

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:tl7ohvc3otmvjiusdtmofggjvgqhv467n2@4ax.com...
> Money 2004 is generally not a feature release but an effort to make
> some of the features work better. Suite has been replaced with
> Premium. There are some feature additions, but not so as make your
> choice much clearer.

Dick
Mon Jul 21 14:44:54 CDT 2003

All indications are that the only thing separating Money04 from "official
release" is for Microsoft to admit it. They're certainly shipping plenty of
product. And we've all known for a long time that these stupid "market date
embargos" mean less than nothing. Microsoft wants this all both ways: big
splashy announcements with plenty of merch already waiting on the shelves.
Retailers don't sit on inventory just to make Microsoft happy.

"Bob Peel, MVP" <Bob_Peel@kiandra.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:#kB7P26TDHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> When Microsoft officially release M2004 I am sure that the information
will
> be updated. AFAIK the likes of Amazon have jumped the release date!

via_newsgroup
Mon Jul 21 15:05:37 CDT 2003

In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:

>My one question is still not definitively answered: does Premium contain any
>features "in the box" that Deluxe does not contain? (By "in the box" I mean
>if I just install from the CD and never go to any of the partner promos and
>don't do anything more online with it than get quotes and Money updates. Oh,
>and I notionally exclude things that aren't in Money.exe--like the
>Kiplinger/TaxCut stuff that 03 Suite included.)

You would probably have to define "feature".

Brian
Mon Jul 21 15:09:00 CDT 2003

"When Microsoft officially release M2004..." Huh?

If it's not officially released, then what is the box in my hand that I just
picked up at Best Buy? It says is it "Microsoft Money 2004 Small Business"


Brian W



"Bob Peel, MVP" <Bob_Peel@kiandra.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23kB7P26TDHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> When Microsoft officially release M2004 I am sure that the information
will
> be updated. AFAIK the likes of Amazon have jumped the release date!
>
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
>
> Hints/Tips
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny
> UK Wishes/Suggestions
> mnyukwsh@microsoft.com
>
> "Brian W" <brianw@gold_death_2_spam_rush.com> wrote in message
> news:ePC6mX6TDHA.2204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I see that some are using this latest version.
> >
> > So where is the Microsoft info on this product?
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/money/default.asp only lists 2003 versions.
> >
> > http://shop.microsoft.com/ only shows 2003 versions
> >
> > http://shop.microsoft.com/special/itsnew/ only says "Coming Soon"
> >
> > Where can I get a list of features so I can make an informed choice
> between
> > Quicken products and MS Money products?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Brian W
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Glyn
Mon Jul 21 15:16:07 CDT 2003

Some shops sell it before the date that MS intends it for release.

--
Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money

Check http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny
for UK tips and fixes for MS Money. To send Microsoft your wishes or
suggestions, use http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or email mnyukwsh@microsoft.com especially if it's a UK specific wish.

I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money

"Brian W" <brianw@gold_death_2_spam_rush.com> wrote in message
news:u%232GyP8TDHA.3640@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "When Microsoft officially release M2004..." Huh?
>
> If it's not officially released, then what is the box in my hand that I
just
> picked up at Best Buy? It says is it "Microsoft Money 2004 Small Business"
>
>
> Brian W
>
>
>
> "Bob Peel, MVP" <Bob_Peel@kiandra.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23kB7P26TDHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > When Microsoft officially release M2004 I am sure that the information
> will
> > be updated. AFAIK the likes of Amazon have jumped the release date!
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Bob Peel,
> > Microsoft MVP - Money
> >
> > Hints/Tips
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny
> > UK Wishes/Suggestions
> > mnyukwsh@microsoft.com
> >
> > "Brian W" <brianw@gold_death_2_spam_rush.com> wrote in message
> > news:ePC6mX6TDHA.2204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I see that some are using this latest version.
> > >
> > > So where is the Microsoft info on this product?
> > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/money/default.asp only lists 2003 versions.
> > >
> > > http://shop.microsoft.com/ only shows 2003 versions
> > >
> > > http://shop.microsoft.com/special/itsnew/ only says "Coming Soon"
> > >
> > > Where can I get a list of features so I can make an informed choice
> > between
> > > Quicken products and MS Money products?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Brian W
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Dick
Mon Jul 21 16:03:27 CDT 2003

Any capabilities of the Money application, besides links to external
services. I'm talking layered things like equity and index options and
lifetime planner that are in M03 Deluxe and not in Standard.

This shouldn't be a hard question. Here's the amazon text [with my
pessimistic parsing]:

Microsoft Money Premium 2004 includes everything in Money Deluxe 2004 PLUS:

NEW! Our most complete package of investment tools. Money 2004 Premium is
all new and designed for investors! Get in-depth stock and investment
information, including quick access to stock quotes, news, and powerful
online tools to help your investments grow.
[sounds like M03 deluxe with gainskeeper in the role of "powerful online
tools to help your investments grow"]

NEW! Sophisticated portfolio tracking. Integrated GainsKeeper provides
comprehensive investment tracking and account integration.
[sounds like gainskeeper again]

NEW! Automated investment analysis. Robust decision-making and analysis
tools help you minimize year-end taxes. "Double-down" strategy tools, asset
allocation, and much more to help optimize tax-saving opportunities.
[sounds like more gainskeeper]

So, put yet another way, is the only difference between deluxe and premium
the gainskeeper tie-in?

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:jphohv4m2n1h90ci0jtl01efreat4nhajr@4ax.com...
> You would probably have to define "feature".

via_newsgroup
Mon Jul 21 16:43:20 CDT 2003

In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:

>Any capabilities of the Money application, besides links to external
>services. I'm talking layered things like equity and index options and
>lifetime planner that are in M03 Deluxe and not in Standard.

My understanding is that Premium is a bundle that includes Money
2004 Deluxe -- not a different version of Money.

Tom
Mon Jul 21 17:52:45 CDT 2003

"Officially released" would be when MS issues a press release, updates their
web site, etc.

"Brian W" <brianw@gold_death_2_spam_rush.com> wrote in message
news:u%232GyP8TDHA.3640@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "When Microsoft officially release M2004..." Huh?
>
> If it's not officially released, then what is the box in my hand that I
just
> picked up at Best Buy? It says is it "Microsoft Money 2004 Small Business"
>
>
> Brian W
>
>
>
> "Bob Peel, MVP" <Bob_Peel@kiandra.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23kB7P26TDHA.2036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > When Microsoft officially release M2004 I am sure that the information
> will
> > be updated. AFAIK the likes of Amazon have jumped the release date!
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Bob Peel,
> > Microsoft MVP - Money

Dick
Mon Jul 21 19:11:10 CDT 2003

Well, then, Deluxe it is! (I'm still holding tight waiting on more user
reports and maybe a trial (or trail, as the case may be) version.)

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
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> >My understanding is that Premium is a bundle that includes Money
> >2004 Deluxe -- not a different version of Money.
>
> Let me correct that. Expect the sign-on and Help->About to say
> Premium instead of Deluxe, but not have extra INTERNAL features --
> which was your question.

Bruce
Mon Jul 21 20:44:14 CDT 2003

"Mike Vanecek" <MikeV99@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hifuu-r1u.ln1@news.invalid.99computer...
> On the back of the box it lists a number of items for Premium under
> "Optimized Investments and Taxes." Automated IRS Schedule-D reporting,
> Optimize Investments, Trade Decision Tools, and so on. Whether these are
> on the Premium CD or external I cannot say since I do not have the
> Premium.

As far as I can tell, all or most of those are part of GainsKeeper, which is
an online subscription service.

"GainsKeeper tracks your cost basis by lot, arms you with trade decision
tools, and provides you with a completed Schedule D for tax filing. "
"Use the GainsKeeper What-If tool to see the tax impact of a buy or sell
before you execute the trade with your broker. "
"Avoid wash sales and benefit from automatic cost basis adjustments due to
corporate actions such as splits, mergers, and spin-offs. "

The "free" subscription is good for "one year and includes 125 transactions"

Bruce.

DaveB
Tue Jul 22 08:01:17 CDT 2003

Watch out for the lack of value provided in Gainskeeper. The 125
transactions will quickly be eaten up by your historical transactions.
According to a gainskeeper support rep:

"There's no way to avoid having historical trades counted against your
trade limit. Users have two options: (1) Enter historical trades and have
GK 'rebuild' the account, making all of the adjustments and calculations
or (2) pick a starting point (say 6/30/2003), begin loading trades as of
that date and GainsKeeper will will track prospectively, leaving the user
to track historical activity and results elsewhere."

I guess I wouldn't really need the sophisticated capabilities of GainsKeeper
if I started from scratch this year now would I.

- Dave


"Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXmegsinet.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike Vanecek" <MikeV99@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:hifuu-r1u.ln1@news.invalid.99computer...
> > On the back of the box it lists a number of items for Premium under
> > "Optimized Investments and Taxes." Automated IRS Schedule-D reporting,
> > Optimize Investments, Trade Decision Tools, and so on. Whether these are
> > on the Premium CD or external I cannot say since I do not have the
> > Premium.
>
> As far as I can tell, all or most of those are part of GainsKeeper, which
is
> an online subscription service.
>
> "GainsKeeper tracks your cost basis by lot, arms you with trade decision
> tools, and provides you with a completed Schedule D for tax filing. "
> "Use the GainsKeeper What-If tool to see the tax impact of a buy or sell
> before you execute the trade with your broker. "
> "Avoid wash sales and benefit from automatic cost basis adjustments due to
> corporate actions such as splits, mergers, and spin-offs. "
>
> The "free" subscription is good for "one year and includes 125
transactions"
>
> Bruce.
>
>