When I opened MS Money Premium 2007 today I was informed that the
update was available and so I let it get installed. Then when I
opened the program again after the install, some of the calculations
were all messed up and so I did a System Restore and went back to
using the original installed version of MS Money Premium 2007.

Here is a description of what was my problem.... Anyone else having
this problem -- or am I doing something wrong?

I opened my checkbook account and entered a transaction for a car
loan payment. I entered the normal payee name and it was auto
entered as usual, then I hit TAB. Previously this would result in
the program auto-entering the rest of the information for the
transaction. In this case it did not. So I manually entered the loan
payment amount, selected category = Loan Payment and subcategory =
the loan account. But the transaction showed twice the dollar amount
that I had entered, and it was shown as an uncategorized amount.
Apparently positive entries were being entered as negative numbers
and negative numbers were entered as positive -- or something else
weird was going on. Anyway, I couldn't figure out any way to get the
program to enter the information the way it was being entered
previously. I tried entering it several times, and tried restarting
the program. Nothing made any difference. I was trying to make a
$400 payment, and the numbers I entered added up to $400, but at the
bottom of the Split screen it showed $800 and said it was
uncategorized, even though I had entered categories for each of the
principal and the interest lines.

The bugs in the original release were not bugging me as badly as
this is. To me this is serious, and it is something that will be
happening all the time. So I just backed out the install and am
using the original release.

Maybe I did something incorrect. But I have had to spend many, many
hours trying to fix things when they got screwed up before, and I
want to be sure I can avoid ever having to go through that again.


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Re: Microsoft Money 2007 SP1 -- I reverted back to the original (before SP1) by johnbusc

johnbusc
Fri Nov 10 12:39:30 CST 2006

I am unable to duplicate this with sample.mny (which is currently the
only data file I have access to). But something else has me concerned.
The Loan Payment bug that I thought was fixed with this SP1 doesn't
appear to be for the sample loan payment in sample.mny!

I'll have to wait until later to access my working data file and
re-confirm my earlier understanding that it had been fixed. When I do,
I'll see if I can duplicate your scenario as well.

Anyone else check the Loan Payment bug after SP where prior to the
update you had to enter payments from the bills calendar not from bills
summary? Is it working for you now? How about in the sample.mny file?

Regards,
JB

DVCmember@DisneyWorld.com wrote:
> When I opened MS Money Premium 2007 today I was informed that the
> update was available and so I let it get installed. Then when I
> opened the program again after the install, some of the calculations
> were all messed up and so I did a System Restore and went back to
> using the original installed version of MS Money Premium 2007.
>
> Here is a description of what was my problem.... Anyone else having
> this problem -- or am I doing something wrong?
>
> I opened my checkbook account and entered a transaction for a car
> loan payment. I entered the normal payee name and it was auto
> entered as usual, then I hit TAB. Previously this would result in
> the program auto-entering the rest of the information for the
> transaction. In this case it did not. So I manually entered the loan
> payment amount, selected category = Loan Payment and subcategory =
> the loan account. But the transaction showed twice the dollar amount
> that I had entered, and it was shown as an uncategorized amount.
> Apparently positive entries were being entered as negative numbers
> and negative numbers were entered as positive -- or something else
> weird was going on. Anyway, I couldn't figure out any way to get the
> program to enter the information the way it was being entered
> previously. I tried entering it several times, and tried restarting
> the program. Nothing made any difference. I was trying to make a
> $400 payment, and the numbers I entered added up to $400, but at the
> bottom of the Split screen it showed $800 and said it was
> uncategorized, even though I had entered categories for each of the
> principal and the interest lines.
>
> The bugs in the original release were not bugging me as badly as
> this is. To me this is serious, and it is something that will be
> happening all the time. So I just backed out the install and am
> using the original release.
>
> Maybe I did something incorrect. But I have had to spend many, many
> hours trying to fix things when they got screwed up before, and I
> want to be sure I can avoid ever having to go through that again.
>
>
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Re: Microsoft Money 2007 SP1 -- I reverted back to the original (before SP1) by Jeff

Jeff
Fri Nov 10 17:12:03 CST 2006

I have confirmed that the Loan Payment bug has been fixed (in my data
file) after the SP1 has been installed. I am able to now use the Bill
Payment screen to select a loan rather than having to use the bills
calendar.

Jeff

On Nov 10, 1:39 pm, johnb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I am unable to duplicate this with sample.mny (which is currently the
> only data file I have access to). But something else has me concerned.
> The Loan Payment bug that I thought was fixed with this SP1 doesn't
> appear to be for the sample loan payment in sample.mny!
>
> I'll have to wait until later to access my working data file and
> re-confirm my earlier understanding that it had been fixed. When I do,
> I'll see if I can duplicate your scenario as well.
>
> Anyone else check the Loan Payment bug after SP where prior to the
> update you had to enter payments from the bills calendar not from bills
> summary? Is it working for you now? How about in the sample.mny file?
>
> Regards,
> JB
>
>
>
> DVCmem...@DisneyWorld.com wrote:
> > When I opened MS Money Premium 2007 today I was informed that the
> > update was available and so I let it get installed. Then when I
> > opened the program again after the install, some of the calculations
> > were all messed up and so I did a System Restore and went back to
> > using the original installed version of MS Money Premium 2007.
>
> > Here is a description of what was my problem.... Anyone else having
> > this problem -- or am I doing something wrong?
>
> > I opened my checkbook account and entered a transaction for a car
> > loan payment. I entered the normal payee name and it was auto
> > entered as usual, then I hit TAB. Previously this would result in
> > the program auto-entering the rest of the information for the
> > transaction. In this case it did not. So I manually entered the loan
> > payment amount, selected category = Loan Payment and subcategory =
> > the loan account. But the transaction showed twice the dollar amount
> > that I had entered, and it was shown as an uncategorized amount.
> > Apparently positive entries were being entered as negative numbers
> > and negative numbers were entered as positive -- or something else
> > weird was going on. Anyway, I couldn't figure out any way to get the
> > program to enter the information the way it was being entered
> > previously. I tried entering it several times, and tried restarting
> > the program. Nothing made any difference. I was trying to make a
> > $400 payment, and the numbers I entered added up to $400, but at the
> > bottom of the Split screen it showed $800 and said it was
> > uncategorized, even though I had entered categories for each of the
> > principal and the interest lines.
>
> > The bugs in the original release were not bugging me as badly as
> > this is. To me this is serious, and it is something that will be
> > happening all the time. So I just backed out the install and am
> > using the original release.
>
> > Maybe I did something incorrect. But I have had to spend many, many
> > hours trying to fix things when they got screwed up before, and I
> > want to be sure I can avoid ever having to go through that again.
>
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Re: Microsoft Money 2007 SP1 -- I reverted back to the original (before SP1) by johnbusc

johnbusc
Fri Nov 10 17:23:49 CST 2006

Jeff,

Seems to be the case for me as well, except if you "Enter in Register"
from Bills Summary it brings up a "withdrawal" dialog and prompts for a
check number. If you cancel, then go to Bills Calendar and "Enter in
Register" the same payment, it brings up a "spend" dialog with no check
number prompt. Then canceling that and going back to Bills Summary and
repeating the first step brings up the "withdrawal" dialog but this
time with no check number field or prompt! Very strange. Closing
Money and re-opening resets this back to prompting for check number
again!

Definitely still something strange going on with Loan Payments. I'm
not sure if the type of account the loan is paid out of makes a
difference. I use a cash account for the loan payment in Money with my
actual bank debit for the payment as a transfer to cash.

Haven't yet had a chance to check out the OP's problem on my working
data file nor to re-confirm on the sample.mny. Does your sample.mny
file mortgage example work as expected or still have the old problem?
If you have a chance let us know.

Regards,
JB

On Nov 10, 6:12 pm, "Jeff M" <jam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have confirmed that the Loan Payment bug has been fixed (in my data
> file) after the SP1 has been installed. I am able to now use the Bill
> Payment screen to select a loan rather than having to use the bills
> calendar.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Nov 10, 1:39 pm, johnb...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am unable to duplicate this with sample.mny (which is currently the
> > only data file I have access to). But something else has me concerned.
> > The Loan Payment bug that I thought was fixed with this SP1 doesn't
> > appear to be for the sample loan payment in sample.mny!
>
> > I'll have to wait until later to access my working data file and
> > re-confirm my earlier understanding that it had been fixed. When I do,
> > I'll see if I can duplicate your scenario as well.
>
> > Anyone else check the Loan Payment bug after SP where prior to the
> > update you had to enter payments from the bills calendar not from bills
> > summary? Is it working for you now? How about in the sample.mny file?
>
> > Regards,
> > JB
>
> > DVCmem...@DisneyWorld.com wrote:
> > > When I opened MS Money Premium 2007 today I was informed that the
> > > update was available and so I let it get installed. Then when I
> > > opened the program again after the install, some of the calculations
> > > were all messed up and so I did a System Restore and went back to
> > > using the original installed version of MS Money Premium 2007.
>
> > > Here is a description of what was my problem.... Anyone else having
> > > this problem -- or am I doing something wrong?
>
> > > I opened my checkbook account and entered a transaction for a car
> > > loan payment. I entered the normal payee name and it was auto
> > > entered as usual, then I hit TAB. Previously this would result in
> > > the program auto-entering the rest of the information for the
> > > transaction. In this case it did not. So I manually entered the loan
> > > payment amount, selected category = Loan Payment and subcategory =
> > > the loan account. But the transaction showed twice the dollar amount
> > > that I had entered, and it was shown as an uncategorized amount.
> > > Apparently positive entries were being entered as negative numbers
> > > and negative numbers were entered as positive -- or something else
> > > weird was going on. Anyway, I couldn't figure out any way to get the
> > > program to enter the information the way it was being entered
> > > previously. I tried entering it several times, and tried restarting
> > > the program. Nothing made any difference. I was trying to make a
> > > $400 payment, and the numbers I entered added up to $400, but at the
> > > bottom of the Split screen it showed $800 and said it was
> > > uncategorized, even though I had entered categories for each of the
> > > principal and the interest lines.
>
> > > The bugs in the original release were not bugging me as badly as
> > > this is. To me this is serious, and it is something that will be
> > > happening all the time. So I just backed out the install and am
> > > using the original release.
>
> > > Maybe I did something incorrect. But I have had to spend many, many
> > > hours trying to fix things when they got screwed up before, and I
> > > want to be sure I can avoid ever having to go through that again.
>
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