I'm looking for an alternative to Quicken, and Money would seem to be an
obvious possibility, but what I have just read about its handling of
foreign currencies would make it useless to me. If I understood it
correctly, Money provides a long list of predetermined currencies but
makes it impossible to add any more.

If this is true it is stupid, almost beyond belief. Nobody needs
seventy currencies (or whatever the number is) but even if you only need
half-a-dozen there are several reasons why you might need to create new
ones:

(1) New currencies come into existence from time to time, perhaps
because of a regional grouping like the euro zone, or because new
countries come into existence, like Slovakia and the Czech Republic.
Money has picked up both of these, but how does Microsoft know that
there won't be others?

(2) You may need to preserve transactions in a currency even if it no
longer exists. For instance, I lived in Belgium before the euro was
adopted, and I had accounts in Belgian francs which I want to keep -
they include security transactions and details of a house purchase, any
of which I may need at some time for tax reporting.

(3) From time to time, a country may reform its currency, typically
because its value has fallen so far that there are too many zeroes in
all the numbers. When this happens both the old and new currencies will
be in circulation for a time. And even when the conversion is complete,
users may still need to keep records in the old currency - as in (2) above.

MS could have learned all this from a brief discussion with any
accountant or banker with a little international experience. Why don't
they make their people take a few steps in the real world before turning
them loose on program design?

Re: Foreign currencies by Bob

Bob
Sat Oct 08 05:07:51 CDT 2005

Whilst you can't create a new currency per se, you can amend an existing one
that you don't want to use.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

<user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
news:e7sjRD%23yFHA.2960@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I'm looking for an alternative to Quicken, and Money would seem to be an
> obvious possibility, but what I have just read about its handling of
> foreign currencies would make it useless to me. If I understood it
> correctly, Money provides a long list of predetermined currencies but
> makes it impossible to add any more.
>
> If this is true it is stupid, almost beyond belief. Nobody needs seventy
> currencies (or whatever the number is) but even if you only need
> half-a-dozen there are several reasons why you might need to create new
> ones:
>
> (1) New currencies come into existence from time to time, perhaps because
> of a regional grouping like the euro zone, or because new countries come
> into existence, like Slovakia and the Czech Republic. Money has picked up
> both of these, but how does Microsoft know that there won't be others?
>
> (2) You may need to preserve transactions in a currency even if it no
> longer exists. For instance, I lived in Belgium before the euro was
> adopted, and I had accounts in Belgian francs which I want to keep - they
> include security transactions and details of a house purchase, any of
> which I may need at some time for tax reporting.
>
> (3) From time to time, a country may reform its currency, typically
> because its value has fallen so far that there are too many zeroes in all
> the numbers. When this happens both the old and new currencies will be in
> circulation for a time. And even when the conversion is complete, users
> may still need to keep records in the old currency - as in (2) above.
>
> MS could have learned all this from a brief discussion with any accountant
> or banker with a little international experience. Why don't they make
> their people take a few steps in the real world before turning them loose
> on program design?



Re: Foreign currencies by peterkt

peterkt
Sat Oct 08 16:59:02 CDT 2005

Bob, could you please advise on how to amend an existing currency? I'd like
to use the Mozambique Metical in Money.
Thanks,
Peter Keller-Transburg

"Bob Peel MVP" wrote:

> Whilst you can't create a new currency per se, you can amend an existing one
> that you don't want to use.
>
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
>
> For UK tips & fixes see
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny.
>
>
> I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
>
> <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
> news:e7sjRD%23yFHA.2960@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I'm looking for an alternative to Quicken, and Money would seem to be an
> > obvious possibility, but what I have just read about its handling of
> > foreign currencies would make it useless to me. If I understood it
> > correctly, Money provides a long list of predetermined currencies but
> > makes it impossible to add any more.
> >
> > If this is true it is stupid, almost beyond belief. Nobody needs seventy
> > currencies (or whatever the number is) but even if you only need
> > half-a-dozen there are several reasons why you might need to create new
> > ones:
> >
> > (1) New currencies come into existence from time to time, perhaps because
> > of a regional grouping like the euro zone, or because new countries come
> > into existence, like Slovakia and the Czech Republic. Money has picked up
> > both of these, but how does Microsoft know that there won't be others?
> >
> > (2) You may need to preserve transactions in a currency even if it no
> > longer exists. For instance, I lived in Belgium before the euro was
> > adopted, and I had accounts in Belgian francs which I want to keep - they
> > include security transactions and details of a house purchase, any of
> > which I may need at some time for tax reporting.
> >
> > (3) From time to time, a country may reform its currency, typically
> > because its value has fallen so far that there are too many zeroes in all
> > the numbers. When this happens both the old and new currencies will be in
> > circulation for a time. And even when the conversion is complete, users
> > may still need to keep records in the old currency - as in (2) above.
> >
> > MS could have learned all this from a brief discussion with any accountant
> > or banker with a little international experience. Why don't they make
> > their people take a few steps in the real world before turning them loose
> > on program design?
>
>
>

Re: Foreign currencies by Christopher

Christopher
Sat Oct 08 21:44:19 CDT 2005

It would be interesting to know what version of Money you have looked at as
my version has a little box entitled - add new currency - which offers a
hint as to what it does !




<user@domain.invalid> wrote in message
news:e7sjRD%23yFHA.2960@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I'm looking for an alternative to Quicken, and Money would seem to be an
> obvious possibility, but what I have just read about its handling of
> foreign currencies would make it useless to me. If I understood it
> correctly, Money provides a long list of predetermined currencies but
> makes it impossible to add any more.
>
> If this is true it is stupid, almost beyond belief. Nobody needs seventy
> currencies (or whatever the number is) but even if you only need
> half-a-dozen there are several reasons why you might need to create new
> ones:
>
> (1) New currencies come into existence from time to time, perhaps because
> of a regional grouping like the euro zone, or because new countries come
> into existence, like Slovakia and the Czech Republic. Money has picked up
> both of these, but how does Microsoft know that there won't be others?
>
> (2) You may need to preserve transactions in a currency even if it no
> longer exists. For instance, I lived in Belgium before the euro was
> adopted, and I had accounts in Belgian francs which I want to keep - they
> include security transactions and details of a house purchase, any of
> which I may need at some time for tax reporting.
>
> (3) From time to time, a country may reform its currency, typically
> because its value has fallen so far that there are too many zeroes in all
> the numbers. When this happens both the old and new currencies will be in
> circulation for a time. And even when the conversion is complete, users
> may still need to keep records in the old currency - as in (2) above.
>
> MS could have learned all this from a brief discussion with any accountant
> or banker with a little international experience. Why don't they make
> their people take a few steps in the real world before turning them loose
> on program design?



Re: Foreign currencies by Chris

Chris
Sun Oct 09 02:26:14 CDT 2005

2006 Deluxe (US) does not have such a box that I can find. What version are
you using?

"Christopher Lamb" <nospam@whatever.com> wrote in message
news:uB$QctHzFHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> It would be interesting to know what version of Money you have looked at
> as my version has a little box entitled - add new currency - which offers
> a hint as to what it does !



Re: Foreign currencies by Carlos

Carlos
Sun Oct 09 07:39:47 CDT 2005

Chris Cowles wrote:
> 2006 Deluxe (US) does not have such a box that I can find. What version are
> you using?
>
>>It would be interesting to know what version of Money you have looked at
>>as my version has a little box entitled - add new currency - which offers
>>a hint as to what it does !


2004 had the option to add new currencies, 2006 does not - when I updated
from 2004 to 2006 trial it told me that it would get rid of my custom
currencies. I don't know if 2005 has it.

Lack of currency custom currency support is what is keeping me from going
to 2006. I used the custom currencies as a kludge to "lock in" the
exchange rate of a specific transaction, so that I can go back and know how
much something really was 5 years later.

Carlos

Re: Foreign currencies by Glyn

Glyn
Sun Oct 09 08:42:04 CDT 2005

2005 is the same as 2006, except the number of built in currencies is less.
There are about 140 currencies in Money 2006, 130 in Money 2005 and
somewhere around 70 in Money 2004.

--
Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
http://money.mvps.org

Check http://money.mvps.org/faq/default.aspx for tips and fixes for MS
Money.
To send Microsoft your product wishes see http://money.mvps.org/wishes.aspx

I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money

"Carlos N" <spaceman13DELETE@REMOVEbestmail.us> wrote in message
news:ux7iL6MzFHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Chris Cowles wrote:
>> 2006 Deluxe (US) does not have such a box that I can find. What version
>> are you using?
>>
>>>It would be interesting to know what version of Money you have looked at
>>>as my version has a little box entitled - add new currency - which offers
>>>a hint as to what it does !
>
>
> 2004 had the option to add new currencies, 2006 does not - when I updated
> from 2004 to 2006 trial it told me that it would get rid of my custom
> currencies. I don't know if 2005 has it.
>
> Lack of currency custom currency support is what is keeping me from going
> to 2006. I used the custom currencies as a kludge to "lock in" the
> exchange rate of a specific transaction, so that I can go back and know
> how much something really was 5 years later.
>
> Carlos