Disappearing file

I run two checking accounts and a credit card account through Money. I
reconcile the checking accounts monthly and they always balance...then
I back them up both to my hard drive and to an external hard drive.
Today I opened one of the checking accounts and the last entry showing
is 3-29-08; I went to the external drive, selected the latest backup
(8-4-08) and did a Restore. Last entry is still 3-29-08. I know that I
could take the check registers for the last four months and re-enter
everything, but just in case.....any ideas? Have to note that once in
awhile the other checking account will lose a month but following the
procedure I have outlined, I have always gotten it back.

Bob Gardner

Cal
Fri Aug 22 16:47:34 CDT 2008

In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:

>I run two checking accounts and a credit card account through Money. I
>reconcile the checking accounts monthly and they always balance...then
>I back them up both to my hard drive and to an external hard drive.
>Today I opened one of the checking accounts and the last entry showing
>is 3-29-08; I went to the external drive, selected the latest backup
>(8-4-08) and did a Restore. Last entry is still 3-29-08. I know that I
>could take the check registers for the last four months and re-enter
>everything, but just in case.....any ideas? Have to note that once in
>awhile the other checking account will lose a month but following the
>procedure I have outlined, I have always gotten it back.

Be sure that your Money and backup files are moved to a spot that
you will have full privileges to, such as Documents/MyDocuments.
If they are in a place like ProgramFiles, Vista will create an
impermanent copy of the file for the user to use, unless the user
explicitly right-clicks at launch and choose RunAsAdministrator
that time.

bobmrg
Sat Aug 23 16:46:33 CDT 2008

On Aug 22, 2:47 pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...@please.tnx>
wrote:
> In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:
> >I run two checking accounts and a credit card account through Money. I
> >reconcile the checking accounts monthly and they always balance...then
> >I back them up both to my hard drive and to an external hard drive.
> >Today I opened one of the checking accounts and the last entry showing
> >is 3-29-08; I went to the external drive, selected the latest backup
> >(8-4-08) and did a Restore. Last entry is still 3-29-08. I know that I
> >could take the check registers for the last four months and re-enter
> >everything, but just in case.....any ideas? Have to note that once in
> >awhile the other checking account will lose a month but following the
> >procedure I have outlined, I have always gotten it back.
>
> Be sure that your Money and backup files are moved to a spot that
> you will have full privileges to, such as Documents/MyDocuments.
> If they are in a place like ProgramFiles, Vista will create an
> impermanent copy of the file for the user to use, unless the user
> explicitly right-clicks at launch and choose RunAsAdministrator
> that time.

They are in Documents, Cal, both on the hard drive and external drive.
I can see the last three backups.

Bob Gardner

bobmrg
Sat Aug 23 17:05:52 CDT 2008

On Aug 22, 2:47 pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...@please.tnx>
wrote:
> In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:
> >I run two checking accounts and a credit card account through Money. I
> >reconcile the checking accounts monthly and they always balance...then
> >I back them up both to my hard drive and to an external hard drive.
> >Today I opened one of the checking accounts and the last entry showing
> >is 3-29-08; I went to the external drive, selected the latest backup
> >(8-4-08) and did a Restore. Last entry is still 3-29-08. I know that I
> >could take the check registers for the last four months and re-enter
> >everything, but just in case.....any ideas? Have to note that once in
> >awhile the other checking account will lose a month but following the
> >procedure I have outlined, I have always gotten it back.
>
> Be sure that your Money and backup files are moved to a spot that
> you will have full privileges to, such as Documents/MyDocuments.
> If they are in a place like ProgramFiles, Vista will create an
> impermanent copy of the file for the user to use, unless the user
> explicitly right-clicks at launch and choose RunAsAdministrator
> that time.

I see that I can open Money from either Documents or Program Files. I
deleted the Program Files listing and had to go to the Recycle Bin to
get it back because apparently the thing that I click on in Documents
just links to the Program Files listing.

Bob Gardner

Cal
Sat Aug 23 17:28:33 CDT 2008

In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:

>On Aug 22, 2:47 pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...@please.tnx>
>wrote:
>> In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:
>> >I run two checking accounts and a credit card account through Money. I
>> >reconcile the checking accounts monthly and they always balance...then
>> >I back them up both to my hard drive and to an external hard drive.
>> >Today I opened one of the checking accounts and the last entry showing
>> >is 3-29-08; I went to the external drive, selected the latest backup
>> >(8-4-08) and did a Restore. Last entry is still 3-29-08. I know that I
>> >could take the check registers for the last four months and re-enter
>> >everything, but just in case.....any ideas? Have to note that once in
>> >awhile the other checking account will lose a month but following the
>> >procedure I have outlined, I have always gotten it back.
>>
>> Be sure that your Money and backup files are moved to a spot that
>> you will have full privileges to, such as Documents/MyDocuments.
>> If they are in a place like ProgramFiles, Vista will create an
>> impermanent copy of the file for the user to use, unless the user
>> explicitly right-clicks at launch and choose RunAsAdministrator
>> that time.
>
>They are in Documents, Cal, both on the hard drive and external drive.
>I can see the last three backups.

I don't know what is happening. If you did not overwrite your
running Money file by restoring to the "default" location, you could
see if File->RepairMoneyFile->StandardFileRepair level 2 helps. It's
unlikely, but it's still worth a try. I would suggest making sure
the View in the register is set to display all transactions, but
there is no setting that would hide just the newer transactions.

I would make uniquely-named backups more than once per month. I also
would have Money make a scheduled backup to a USB flash drive.
Starting with Money 2006, by default Money makes a backup each time
you exit and keeps 4 backups that incorporate the date into the
filename. You can increase that number. You did not say what version
you are running.

In Vista, while MyDocuments is aliased to Documents for many
purposes, you want the backup path to be Documents rather than
MyDocuments.

You could also search your hard drive for any *.mny files that got
shuffled off somewhere for unknown reasons. In particular, look at
any folders in
C:\Users\yourUserName\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files
You can get to that folder from a command window by entering the
following line *with* the quotes:

cd "%LOCALAPPDATA%\VirtualStore\Program Files"

Then CD to the appropriate Money folder and see if there is a *.mny
file hiding. Again this is a case where I doubt that you will find
such a file, but might be worth a look. This should only happen if
the files were in Program Files, so it is a really long shot.

Dick
Sat Aug 23 20:14:39 CDT 2008

Check the entry in Documents to see if it is really a link. If so, then put
your Money file in Documents, delete the link, and double click on the Money
file.

"bobmrg" <bobmrg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:34266ec9-ead5-44ae-8a59-3df62bb7dea8@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> I see that I can open Money from either Documents or Program Files. I
> deleted the Program Files listing and had to go to the Recycle Bin to
> get it back because apparently the thing that I click on in Documents
> just links to the Program Files listing.

bobmrg
Sun Aug 24 12:23:06 CDT 2008

On Aug 23, 3:28 pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...@please.tnx>
wrote:
> In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:
> >On Aug 22, 2:47 pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...@please.tnx>
> >wrote:
> >> In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:
> >> >I run two checking accounts and a credit card account through Money. I
> >> >reconcile the checking accounts monthly and they always balance...then
> >> >I back them up both to my hard drive and to an external hard drive.
> >> >Today I opened one of the checking accounts and the last entry showing
> >> >is 3-29-08; I went to the external drive, selected the latest backup
> >> >(8-4-08) and did a Restore. Last entry is still 3-29-08. I know that I
> >> >could take the check registers for the last four months and re-enter
> >> >everything, but just in case.....any ideas? Have to note that once in
> >> >awhile the other checking account will lose a month but following the
> >> >procedure I have outlined, I have always gotten it back.
>
> >> Be sure that your Money and backup files are moved to a spot that
> >> you will have full privileges to, such as Documents/MyDocuments.
> >> If they are in a place like ProgramFiles, Vista will create an
> >> impermanent copy of the file for the user to use, unless the user
> >> explicitly right-clicks at launch and choose RunAsAdministrator
> >> that time.
>
> >They are in Documents, Cal, both on the hard drive and external drive.
> >I can see the last three backups.
>
> I don't know what is happening. If you did not overwrite your
> running Money file by restoring to the "default" location, you could
> see if File->RepairMoneyFile->StandardFileRepair level 2 helps. It's
> unlikely, but it's still worth a try. I would suggest making sure
> the View in the register is set to display all transactions, but
> there is no setting that would hide just the newer transactions.
>
> I would make uniquely-named backups more than once per month. I also
> would have Money make a scheduled backup to a USB flash drive.
> Starting with Money 2006, by default Money makes a backup each time
> you exit and keeps 4 backups that incorporate the date into the
> filename. You can increase that number. You did not say what version
> you are running.
>
> In Vista, while MyDocuments is aliased to Documents for many
> purposes, you want the backup path to be Documents rather than
> MyDocuments.
>
> You could also search your hard drive for any *.mny files that got
> shuffled off somewhere for unknown reasons. In particular, look at
> any folders in
> C:\Users\yourUserName\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files
> You can get to that folder from a command window by entering the
> following line *with* the quotes:
>
> cd "%LOCALAPPDATA%\VirtualStore\Program Files"
>
> Then CD to the appropriate Money folder and see if there is a *.mny
> file hiding. Again this is a case where I doubt that you will find
> such a file, but might be worth a look. This should only happen if
> the files were in Program Files, so it is a really long shot.

Thanks, Cal, I will take your advice. I am using Money 2007, by the
way, with Vista. I have updated all three accounts manually and backed
them up to Documents on my C drive, my external E drive, and my F
flash drive. It has been my practice to sit down when the statements
come in once a month and enter all transactions, checks cleared, etc
and then, with all three up-to-date, done a backup. Maybe I should
back up each of the three files as I finish working on them? I was
under the impression that Backup backed up all three at once.

Thanks for your help.

Bob Gardner

Cal
Sun Aug 24 12:34:48 CDT 2008

In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:

>
>Thanks, Cal, I will take your advice. I am using Money 2007, by the
>way, with Vista. I have updated all three accounts manually and backed
>them up to Documents on my C drive, my external E drive, and my F
>flash drive. It has been my practice to sit down when the statements
>come in once a month and enter all transactions, checks cleared, etc
>and then, with all three up-to-date, done a backup. Maybe I should
>back up each of the three files as I finish working on them? I was
>under the impression that Backup backed up all three at once.

If you actually have "three files", a backup will not backup more
than one file. If one file has three or more accounts, they all get
backed up.

If you really have three independent files (and I doubt that is what
you meant), it would be important that the
Tools->Settings->BackupSettings have unique SaveIn fields. While
Money 2007 does include a date- and time-stamp as part of the
filename, if the same root was used, that could confuse things. And
if the "Keep only the _4_most recent backup files" field specifies a
smaller number, you might end up deleting a backup from previous
backup of a different file.

Anyway, if you have a big disk drive with a lot of unused space, you
could increase that number to maybe 20 for the hard drive.

bobmrg
Mon Aug 25 11:17:30 CDT 2008

On Aug 24, 10:34 am, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...@please.tnx>
wrote:
> In microsoft.public.money, bobmrg wrote:
>
> >Thanks, Cal, I will take your advice. I am using Money 2007, by the
> >way, with Vista. I have updated all three accounts manually and backed
> >them up to Documents on my C drive, my external E drive, and my F
> >flash drive. It has been my practice to sit down when the statements
> >come in once a month and enter all transactions, checks cleared, etc
> >and then, with all three up-to-date, done a backup. Maybe I should
> >back up each of the three files as I finish working on them? I was
> >under the impression that Backup backed up all three at once.
>
> If you actually have "three files", a backup will not backup more
> than one file. If one file has three or more accounts, they all get
> backed up.
>
> If you really have three independent files (and I doubt that is what
> you meant), it would be important that the
> Tools->Settings->BackupSettings have unique SaveIn fields. While
> Money 2007 does include a date- and time-stamp as part of the
> filename, if the same root was used, that could confuse things. And
> if the "Keep only the _4_most recent backup files" field specifies a
> smaller number, you might end up deleting a backup from previous
> backup of a different file.
>
> Anyway, if you have a big disk drive with a lot of unused space, you
> could increase that number to maybe 20 for the hard drive.

You're right...it is three accounts, not three files. Thanks again.

Bob