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    - How To Stop MSN Messenger Autoload On Live Space Website Hi Each time I go to my Live Space my MSN opens causing a 30 second pause in all activity on the PC. Cause I stop Messenger from opening when I visit my blog? Also, I have noticed this pause when I open my web browser. Nothing on the PC can be used until the site responds or "times out". If the pause can be removed, everything can open for all I care. Thanks Dennis ** Respond to newsgroup only - Email is fake to combat spammers Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90250
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    - ANN: Bricksoft IM(MSN) SDK For .NET Framework/.NET Compact Framework released! IM SDK For .NET Framework/.NET Compact Framework provide connectivity with the MSN Messenger service. The library is built in C# and can therefore be used by all languages the .NET environment supports. Because of a clean natural Object-Oriented approach the library is easy to use and implement. It is designed to be a flexible, robust and lightweight enhancement to any application. Applications of IM SDK For .NET Framework/.NET Compact Framework vary from creating messaging robots to creating custom clients. If your application needs to communicate through the messenger service, IM SDK For .NET Framework/.NET Compact Framework is your best tool. Features a.. Send and receive MSN instant messages(Unicode supported) to and from other public MSN Messenger client via MSN Server. b.. Send typing notification messaging c.. Add and remove other client from contact, Allow and block lists. d.. List, add, remove and modify buddy group. e.. Modify MSN nickname. f.. Change MSN status. g.. MSNP9 protocol Please visit http://www.bricksoftim.com/IMNET.html if you want to get more information about this SDK. -- Bricksoft IM(MSN,YAHOO,AIM,ICQ) VCL Component Bricksoft IM(MSN,YAHOO,AIM,ICQ) COM SDK Bricksoft IM(MSN) SDK For .NET Framework/.NET Compact Framework http://www.bricksoftim.com/ Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90247
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    - How to block a group Is there a way in MSN 7.x or WLM 8.x to block a group instead of many individual contacts? Thank you, Aristide Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90244
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    - WM6 Live Messenger contact sync while first time using live messenger in WM6. it force me to sync all MSN contact to my phone otherwise I cannot use it. Can I NOT sync those MSN contact to the phone but still can use live messegner ? I don't want mess up my contact in the phone. pls help. Ray H. Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90242
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    - Hotmail and showing images in mail ? How come that mos of my pictures recieved in mail becomes small red crosses after a few showings only ?? T. Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90241
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    - Monitor Blacks Out Hi Folks, Recently up graded from MSN Messenger 7.5 to WLM 8.1 I have dual monitors. Now when I check my hotmail account with IE -every time go to a new page in IE such as open a message or tab to a different page the second monitor blacks out for ~3 seconds and then resumes. Does no matter on which monitor IE displays -the 2 monitor (on the left) temporarily blacks out (does not lose power) as described. Any ideas what is going on. Thanks for your help.... David S> Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90238
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    - Accessing my E-mail through Windows Live Messenger I have always been able to click on they email button in messenger to automatically login and access my e-mail, but for the past three days when i click on the button it goes to the hotmail login page with the following error: "The e-mail address or password is incorrect. Please retype the e-mail address and password, or sign up if you haven't already done so. Need help signing in?" If i manualy enter my password I can login. Any suggestions? Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90237
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    - MI5 Persecution: Goldfish and Piranha 29/9/95 (5563) I just thought I'd let you know what I've been reading into the "Crusader" spam. I don't want to post this to usenet because somebody might try to tie that in to my posts in some way (someone already has, in uk.misc). First of all, I'd like to ask you to believe that my phone line in my apartment is bugged, and has been for many months. I have moved a couple of times this year, but "they" have faithfully been on my trail. Anyway, let's suppose my phone line is bugged. Now, when I talk to my internet service provider, it's over a SLIP (now PPP) connection. So if you wanted to bug what was said, either you'd listen in over the line and have to decode the transmission, or you could go to the service provider (more difficult) and ask them to decode a particular user's connection. OK, so now they're listening to everything I do over my SLIP/PPP connection. A couple of months ago I was messing around with faking articles through nntp servers and through anonymous remailers. I chose a nice inconspicuous newsgroup for my little tests, something no-one would ever notice. Guess which newsgroup I chose??? Yes, _FISH_!!! or rec.aquaria to be precise And guess what articles I tried to post? Goldfish, Koi carp and, you'll never guess... PIRANHA!!! The goldfish article and the Koi went through, but the piranha didn';t appear. by now you probably think this is too silly for words. But if you look in the papers a few eeks ago you will find John Major, Tonny Blair and Paddy Ashdown sharing a "private joke" about Major's sunburnt goldfish. We haven't had anything about Koi yet (they must be too dull ). Now, sent by someone who clearly knew what they were doing (they chose an Italian backbone site for their launch point) we have many thousands of messages to people all over the globe. All about piranha, and with the punchline "that gives you something to think about, doesn't it?" The way it works is that they're trying to kill two birds with one stone again. I don't knoiw why they should be against these national alliance people, but my interpretation is that they simultaneously try to discredit them, and stem the flow of Corley articles. ================================================================= In article <DFnE55.8tF.0.bloor@torfree.net>, Mike Corley <bu765@torfree.net> wrote: > >John J Smith (J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk) wrote: > >: b) we do know who you are. Or are you someone else we don't know about? >: You are currently known as "That bloody persistant net nutter, who's >: expanding from uk.misc to the rest of the world". > >I think the point I was trying to make is that I could tell you things >from my personal life, at home and at work, which would add credibility >to my story. But if I named people, then (a) they would object violently >to being included in this shenanigans, and (b) I would be revealing my >identity which would be bad for my personal life and my work life. Of >course some people in my personal life, and at work, do know who "mike >corley" is. But at least we're observing a studied silence for now. :People can always be called "MR X", to save them being named. : :I'm completely perplexed as to what you mean by b). Revealing identity? :To who? And why would this be bad for any part of your life when you :already have a less than respectful reputation here? I'll just enumerate one or two things that I can still remember. Sometime around August/Sept 1992 I was living in a house in Oxford, and coming out of the house was physically attacked by someone - not punched, just grabbed by the coat, with some verbals thrown in for good measure. That was something the people at work shouldn't have known about... but soon after a couple of people were talking right in front of me about, "yeah, I heard he was attacked". Again, one I went for a walk in some woods outside Oxford. The next day, at work, someone said "you know he went to the forest yesterday". I don't want to put details on usenet of what happened because to do so would be to risk it happening again. If you put ideas in peoples' heads then you can find them reflecting back at you, and I don't want that. Also I can't remember that much from three years ago. From november 1992 I started taking "major tranquilizers" and just blotted the whole thing from my mind. >This is a feature time and time again, that the security services >(presumed) get at you by manipulating other people around you to get at >you. If you have their contacts, manpower, resources and technology then >you can do that sort of thing. :But why? Are you a threat? They pretend they "have" to get at me. After the first few weeks they had to find a reason to spy and abuse. You can't abuse someone unless they're in the wrong in some way. What I did "wrong" was to be ill. So it became "nutter" and "monster" and "he's going to attack us" coupled with "ha ha ha, he can't do anything to defend himself, it was so funny". That obvious contradiction within their propaganda is something they blithely ignore. :So, the Security Services never *actually* appear, and you assume that :they get someone else to do your dirty work. This is a bit of a big :logical step, here: That person doesn't like me, or is causing me trouble, :it's not because they've got problems themselves, it must be the "Security :Services". Yes. Because people are infallible. Or is there more? A single source is indicated because of the range of harassment. BBC + Capital + manipulated_public_at_large + set_up_situations, what does that add up to? Add in the technology to carry out the covert spying and the manpower and knowhow to follow you around for five years without being spotted. It smells very much of the security services, because there is no other organization (to my knowledge) which does the things I've seen these people do. Remember, they have deliberately chosen the softest of soft targets to victimize. They purposely chose a mentally ill person who they thought would be likely to kill himself anyway, so that they could get away with murder. And in all likelihood it will have started as a personal vendetta by someone. Who could that be? I don't know, but I can give you some clues. The first possibility (deep breath) is that someone from my college set me up. Six years ago I graduated from university in the UK, during the last year there I was steadily getting more and more ill. I know that I was talking in my sleep; although I don't know what I was saying, it got me a reputation, and if someone from my college talked afterwards to the "wrong" people then that could be the reason for all that has followed. I think that's the strongest contender for source. Directly beneath my room lived another bloke who frequently had his friends round late at night, after the time that I went to sleep. So they could have heard what I was saying in my sleep, and that could have got me the reputation for "talking to myself". What I don't know is why that should have rebounded a year after I left. You'd think it would have happened sooner; it's a bit odd to wait for a year and then start abuse. That leads me to question what in particular happened around May/June 1990 for them to start then. >What I don't know is how it looks from the other side, from the side of >the people who are being manipulated to get at me. On a couple of >occasions I have challenged people to tell the truth of the matter, but >they have alwats ducked the challenge. :Have you ever considered the possibility, that you have made a mistake, and :the people don't know what you are talking about? Yes. I am currently considering the possibility that some people around me know only what is being posted on Usenet, and have not been "contacted" by "them". But I _know_ that others have been contacted. :What words? Are they in common use? Could they be a catchphrase of a :popular comedian?: "Nice to see you, to see you nice"? In England the all-time No. 1 is "nutter". Easter this year, returning home from Clapham police station to report five years of harassment ("we're not saying it's happening and we're not saying it isn't happening"), another "not happening" incident of harassment when a cowardly little slut did her country proud by yelling "nutter, nutter, nutter" in the face of the hated enemy. What can you do about that? You can't yell abuse back in their face, because they know they're supported by their peers, by the media, by the murderers in the security forces. You can't put them down when the fascist establishment is on their side. You can't hit them, because they would deny their abuse, they would deny knowing anything, and bring charges against the "nutter" who attacked them "at random". >You know, you're >passing saomeone, they're hardly going to construct an argument for your >benefit, so they work a word of abuse into the conversation which they >can giggle at. :Abuse such as what? We're all adults here, we can take it. Is this abuse :aimed at you? How can you tell it is? I think I've said already what the words are. Thing is, at any given time the language is consistent. In January everyone's calling you X, then a few weeks later people stop calling you X and start calling you Y. You can tell it's aimed at me, because when people repeatedly say the same words are you walk past, then laugh, you would have to be hard of understanding not to recognize it. >Or they repeat something that's been said somewhere else... the PE thing >being a case in point. PE says it, then other people pick up the refrain. :Remind me who PE is again. PE = "Private Eye" >: >To give you an example, which I mentioned in another posting. In around >: >October 1992, Private Eye ran a cover with the heading "Major's support >: >lowest ever", with John calling to Norma on the cover "come back, Norma". >: >Only one obvious interpretation to that, isn';;t there? I certainly >: >thought so when I saw that cover. Wrongo!! Down the pub with people from work >: >Simon says to phil, "don';t you think it's wrong then?" phil says, "well >: >private eye are usuallyright"..."hislop strikes again.. > >: Erm. Mike? Heeeelllllooo? What are you on about. What is the other >: interpretation then? Norma having an affair? Seems a bit wrong, with the >: heading "Majors support Lowest ever"... > >No, this one isn't obvious , it really does need to be explained. I >certainly didn't understand it when I first saw it. You see, the kernel >of vitriol is in the words "come back". At the time, the themes of >abuse were centred around interpretations of those two words (stretch your >mind a little bit, I don't have to spell it out for you, surely). :You did in your mail item. : :You seem to be scouting about something called a "Double Entendre". The :inference being "Come" = Ejaculation, "Back" = Anus (not the first part :of the body I would have went for, I would have foolishly gone for "Back", :silly old me). : :You see to have picked a sodomy double entendre out of a Private Eye :headline. They are everywhere. The English language has much double :meaning in it, and if you put your mind to it, you could pull a double :entendre out of a randomly chosen page of the bible. So what? >The point is that when Simon pointed it out to Phil, he did recognise >what it meant after a moment's thought... and so did I... and so did the >people who repeated it several times later... so however murky it may >seem to you, that is the meaning they intended it to have... I still don't really know if the meaning was intended when that headline was written, or if it was simply "found" after the fact. The reason I think it might be the former is that I got quite a lot of abuse along the lines of "sound-alike" or "double-entendre" at work, in particularly from Steve. So "double" inevitably came to mean split-personality, "two people in one"; "back" inevitably came to mean "backside", "come" inevitably meant you-know- what, "split" (well, we'd better split now) again you can guess, "bent" (of a similar bent), the list goes on forever. These aren't "nice" double- entendres intended for comedy, they're nasty words to humiliate and cause pain. If I could turn the clock back three years then I would sue my former employers for harassment and I would almost certainly win. I had to take pills after a year of Oxford, so they wouldn't be able to lie their way out of it. Actually, I could still take them to court - the main obstacle being that three years after the fact is a bit late and much of what happened, the details that would be necessary for a case to go to court, has just been obliterated by time. : Smid ============================================== From: flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Kr|ger) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,alt.conspiracy,uk.media,uk.legal Subject: Re: Mike Corley - a (helpful) suggestion Date: Mon Oct 2 05:43:42 1995 In article <812551172snz@objmedia.demon.co.uk>, Snail <snail@objmedia.demon.co.uk> says: >Indeed, I feel that my Usenet access is censored simply because I don't want >to download groups he is partaking in, because of his behaviour. > >I wasn't that bothered, but I am starting to get seriously pissed off >with him. Which takes a lot. Hi Snail This person Corley seems quite interesting for three reasons. I put the following at the end of a post in another thread just to see if he was reading any other threads in uk.media. It seems he is probably not. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Heres an interesting little story from back in the early days of CCD technology. There was this miniature camera which was designed to fit behind the infrared receiver lens of the remote control system (just beside the IR sensor itself) the camera clocked out the data in 256 lines of 256 pixels from a Fairchild chip and fed it out, a line at a time, into the VBI within the TV set itself. The signal could be picked up remotely from a standard license detector van from where it was stripped out of the surrounding RF signal and relayed back to the TV station where it was displayed as a slowscan monochrome image in a corner of the news readers monitor. 5563 Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90235
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    - MI5 Persecution: Watch Out, Forger About 27/9/95 (4049) From: ray@ultimate-tech.com (Ray Dunn) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british Subject: Re: An apology from Mike Corley Date: Wed Sep 27 14:20:36 1995 In referenced article, David Wooding says... >Well, Mike Corley might or might not have written the apologies, but I >think not. I thought the following line both witty and imaginative. > >>>It was the razor blades stuffed down between the keys that told me. Corley himself denies posting this "apology", but I'm impressed if it is a forgery. Here's the header of my received email. It looks very genuine except for the fact that postings to newsgroups are directed through demon's mail to news gateway, which is strange. Also the message id is <m0sxbx2-000JEeC@bloor.torfree.net> which seems to be in a different format from previous Corley postings, e.g. <DFJJB3.6Ft.0.bloor@torfree.net The mail seems to have been received directly from mail.torfree.net. One way of telling for sure would be if anyone on the recipient list contacted torfree, but did not publish any complaints on the newsgroups - he would not have had access to their address in that case. >Received: from SpoolDir by ULTIMATE (Mercury 1.20); 26 Sep 95 12:00:14 +0500 >Return-path: <bu765@torfree.net> >Received: from mail.torfree.net by smtp.ultimate-tech.com (Mercury 1.20); > 26 Sep 95 12:00:04 +0500 >Received: from bloor.torfree.net ([199.71.188.18]) by mail.torfree.net > (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6; 16-jun-94) > via sendmail with smtp id <m0sxbyy-000LXSC@mail.torfree.net> > for <ray@ultimate-tech.com>; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:31 EDT >Received: from torfree.net by bloor.torfree.net with smtp > (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sxbx2-000JEeC; Tue, 26 Sep 95 11:29 EDT >Message-Id: <m0sxbx2-000JEeC@bloor.torfree.net> >Apparently-To: bu765@torfree.net, snail@objmedia.demon.co.uk, > ray@ultimate-tech.com, Frank@acclaim.demon.co.uk, > p.marshall@axion.bt.co.uk, me93jrb@brunel.ac.uk, > mikeh@mordor.com, > michael@everyman.demon.co.uk, tim@xara.co.uk, > Alan.Holmes@brunel.ac.uk, uk.misc@news.demon.co.uk, > uk-misc@news.demon.co.uk, uk-media@news.demon.co.uk, > uk.media@news.demon.co.uk, uk.legal@news.demon.co.uk, > uk-legal@news.demon.co.uk, alt-conspiracy@news.demon.co.uk, > alt.conspiracy@news.demon.co.uk, > soc.culture.british@news.demon.co.uk, > soc-culture-british@news.demon.co.uk, > soc-culture-canada@news.demon.co.uk, > soc.culture.canada@news.demon.co.uk >Newsgroups: uk.misc, uk.media, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.canada, uk.legal, alt.conspiracy >From: bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) >Subject: Oops! Sorry! >Organization: Toronto Free-Net >X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] >Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1995 01:23:45 GMT >Lines: 27 >X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 -- Ray Dunn (opinions are my own) | Phone: (514) 938 9050 Montreal | Phax : (514) 938 5225 ray@ultimate-tech.com | Home : (514) 630 3749 4049 Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90234
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    - MI5 Persecution: Question and Answer 27/9/95 (2535) In article <DFGxnF.Cr8.0.bloor@torfree.net> bu765@torfree.net "Mike Corley" writes: >>> ##: There were also a few other things said at the trial >>> ##: relating to this which I won't repeat here; it was in the papers >>> ##: at the time anyway. This quote and others said by and about this >>> ##: witness were repeating things that had been said by and about >>> ##: me at around that time. When, where and by whom ? Let's have some details that can be checked. I'm not going to repeat them. They're hurtful to me because they contained abuse that was directed against me by someone else at the time and which got picked up and thrown again in the trial. It is a matter of record but I won't repeat it here. >>> PM: >Who's character is being assassinated? It isn't clear from the post. >>> PM: >Are we talking about Grenville Janner? I thought he was a spook >>> PM: >himself? He's certainly able to hold his own on the issue you cite. >>> ##: Mine, mainly. The reason for putting that episode at the top >>> ##: of the posting is that they tried to kill two birds with one stone >>> ##: at the Beck trial - they simultaneously put words into the mouth >>> ##: of their invented "witness" to smear Janner, and repeated exactly, >>> ##: word-for-word, stuff which had been said by and about me. Why would "they" wish to assassinate your character? Well, let's put it this way - just because this is the first time it's happened in this way, from these people, on this scale, doesn't mean that it hasn't happened before, on a lesser scale. At university there were people who quite overtly hated me and would have wished something nasty to happen to me. Because of where I went making the wrong sort of enemies is pretty deadly. "They" would wish to assassinate my character because it had all been done before, and because they knew I would not be able to react in any other way than I'd reacted previously. >>> ##: They invaded my home with their bugs, they repeated what I >>> ##: was saying in the privacy of my home, and they laughed that it >>> ##: was "so funny", that I was impotent and could not even communicate >>> ##: what was going on. Who did this? Our friends on BBC television, >>> ##: our friends in ITN, last but not least our friends in Capital >>> ##: Radio in London and on Radio 1. Please give details of when, where and by whom these comments were made, so that they can be checked. This was four, five years ago... sorry, I don't remember. I can remember individual incidents, words which were repeated by different people at different times in different locations. Around the end of 1992 Private Eye rtan a front-cover with John and Norma Major, with the title "Major's support lowest ever" and John saying to Norma "Come back norma" on the front cover. What can you read in to that? Not a lot, seems like standard fare for PE. The first time I saw it I was in the pub with some people from work. One was expressing doubts to the other (let's call the first one Simon, shall we? and the second one Phil?) about whether what was going on was right. Phil's answer was that if Private Eye was doing it then it must be ok, "they're usually right". A few days later, again near work, there were some students laughing in the street, "Were you COMING BACK later? But I thought you said you were COMING BACK ha ha ha?" Play on words, you see. Not very nice, either. I had start medication soon afterwards. Clever people, these chaps who think up PE titles. Just slightly lacking in any sense of morality. >>> ##: How did they do this? I'll give you an example. About a year ago, >>> ##: I was listening to Chris Tarrant (Capital Radio DJ among other >>> ##: pursuits) on his radio morning show, when he said, talking about >>> ##: someone he didn't identify, "you know this bloke? he says we're >>> ##: trying to kill him. We should be done for attempted manslaughter" >>> ##: which mirrored something I had said a day or two before. >>> ##: Now that got broadcast to the whole of London - if any recordings >>> ##: are kept of the shows then it'll be there. What was the date of the broadcast ? Out of 2 million plus listeners, why should you be the only one that Tarrant was allegedly referring to ? Sometyime in spring 1994. I can't remember the date, I heard the broadcast in the car - I was going into the office from London that day and just happened to snap on the radio, and hey presto! Mr Tarrant gives us the benefit of his excellent understanding. >>> ##: That's exactly what we did. We went to a competent, professional >>> ##: detective agency in London, paid them over 400 quid to debug our house. >>> ##: They found nothing. What was the name of the detective agency and their address ? I don't see why I should tell you that, but they're in Yellow Pages; they're a well-established outfit. >>> PM: >What? Spend a quarter mil. a year to amuse themselves? And why not >>> PM: >change every now and again? Why keep watching you? (Unless you _are_ >>> PM: >doing something, and I don't think you are, though you may have some >>> PM: >deep, dark secret in your past.) >>> >>> ##: See the above. Is there a deep dark secret in your past ? Apart from "it's all happened before in a different way", no. >>> ##: In a couple of cases people have even known my name - when I was in >>> ##: London over Easter somebody (no idea who they were, just some bloke with >>> ##: his girlfriend) called me by name - quite clearly, and my name is >>> ##: distinctive. Is your name truly Mike Corley, or are you using it as an alias ? It's an alias. I'm not English by ethnic origin. If someone manages to pronounce my name as well as that guy did then they must have been really trying. >>> ##: There's a little story behind this. First of all, in 1992 I worked >>> ##: for a company where the people made clear they knew what was going on, >>> ##: first of all directly (the very first evening I was there I went out to >>> ##: the pub with them and the Technical Director said to another guy, >>> ##: "is this the bloke who's been on TV?" "yeah, I think so") Have you appeared, or been reported by name on TV ? When, where and by whom ? No. Never. Not directly. >>> ##: Also, in summer 1992 I went on a trip abroad to Europe by coach, What was the name of the coach company and your date of departure ? It was a national express coach. At dover we boarded a ferry for Holland somewhere. The company that organized the trip went out of business some time ago, so they won't have records of passengers - so we can't get any corroboration from anyone else that way. We tried all that last summer, ran into a brick wall. The other thing is in summer 1992 I was visibly ill, so other people in the party might remember that more than anyone getting at me on the coach trip. >>> ##: >>Yes, this gets me. I think the answer is that I was set up by >>> ##: >>someone. I was very aware when this started back in 1990 that I >>> ##: >>was being painted as a "threat" to which people had to "react" Why were you being painted as a "threat"; is this related to a "deep,dark, secret" ? Aaaarrrrgh. I think I should make clear that that's their created justification rather than the real reason. They started harassing first and then came up with the reasons for it. >>> >>> ##: I think I know who set me up. Who ? Someone who knew me some time ago. Someone who would have been able to talk this little campaign into existence. >>> ##: The bloke can't even control his own mind without medicine. Is this true ? What is the medication and dosage ? Yes, I'm afraid so. Sulpiride, 200mg a day. It's designed to stop people coming up with the sort of ideas you've heard here for the last few weeks. Give him a higher dose!! In the long term it causes tardive dyskinesia, tardive dementia and general nasty stuff to your brain. So it's three years of sulpiride talking to you here. >-- >john heelan 2535 Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90233
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    - MI5 Persecution: Options 21/9/95 (1021) From: john heelan <john@lorca.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: uk.misc,alt.current-events.net-abuse,alt.journalism Subject: Re: CENSORHSIP IS IMMORAL, UNJUST AND WRONG Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 19:17:30 GMT Organization: (Private) Lines: 65 Message-ID: <811711050snz@lorca.demon.co.uk> References: <DF8DMu.Dqu.0.bloor@torfree.net> <43qpdh$iki@news3.digex.net> Reply-To: john@lorca.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: lorca.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 You have to admit that Mike is persistent and obviously feels deeply that he is being hounded by the "Security Services" and there is a Conspiracy out to get him personally. If that is true, then we should be concerned; if he is just paranoid, then we should empathise with his sickness. What we should not do is to invite censorship....that just could be implicitly joining in the putative Conspiracy. Let's look at Mike's potential options (and the alleged responses he has received): > 1. Complain to the Police: (their alleged response > "Don't be silly, Sir"; Mike's rationale "They are part > of the Conspiracy") > I don't think the police as an organisation are part of it. They're certainly not the source. The officer I spoke to at Easter clearly didn't know anything about it. And that was at my local police station in London - if anyone in the police knew you would think the people at your local cop shop would. A couple of years ago I had to go into the station after a motoring infraction, the guy I spoke to then said something about "brain like a computer sir" which my suspicions latched on to - (I'm alleged to be a programmer as some people reading this know) - but as per the usual "can';t prove nuthin" and you ask yourself if you're just being stupid suspecting on the basis of a straw > 2. Complain to a Member of Parliament (Mike's rationale: "Can't > because they are part of the Conspiracy") > I could do that actually. But he would probably tell me to go see the police, for which see above. > 3. Make it visible through the UK Press. (Mike's rationale: > "Can't because they are part of the Conspiracy") > They are actually. There's a difference though in the way journalists react to this stuff when they're "got to" by the security service. This is completely giving the game away, but the trouble originally started with my reading into stuff that was being written by Times columnists, in particular our antagonistic friend Mr Levin. But you see that some journalists are taking part in the conspiracy and others are only doing it because their puppet masters have been feeding them information which they can't allow themselves to ignore. The security services have their hooks into the UK media, this case shows that very explicitly. You also see how things get gradualkly wqorse with a particular journalist; a couple of weeks ago Peter Tory in the Express was writing about "nerds seeking their revenge on him through the Net", guess what that was about. > 4. Complain to the UK Security Services. (Mike's rationale: "Can't > because they ARE the Cnspiracy") > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? If the fascist Gestapo bastards plot to see you dead then who's going to deal with it? Not the security services, that's for sure. > 5. Make it visible through Internet: (Mike has done this > suvccessfully; but any gainsayers are "part of the Conspiracy". > I don;t think you';re part of the consipracy if you refuse to believe or email the postmaster. Those who do know are keeping their silence. > 6. Complain to the Canadian National and State Governments. (Has > Mike done this yet ?) > No. It's a UK problem so that's where it should be dealt with. The perpetrators are UK residents, are unidentified, and would be difficult to deal with through the Canadian courts. Ditto the police in Canada, ditto the press - it isn't their problem, it's caused by UK people against someone from the UK. Of course Canadian laws are being broken relating to harassment and "stalking" which do not exist in the UK, but the Canadian police do not have a very good record of enforcing those laws anyway. > 7. Complain to the Canadian Security Services (Has Mike done this > yet ?) > > 8. Complain to the Canadian Press. (Has Mike done this yet ?) > I think if they didn't knoiw, they'd just think you were having delusions; and if they did, then they would side with the people with the power, the smiling English people with their knives out. Remember, nobody uis going to side with the person who has less power in a copfrontation. The team over here in Canada have the resources of their organization behind them, other broadcasters etc in the UK would have influence with their counterparts in Canada; after all, this was once a British colony, there is still a feeling of "looking up to" the UK among many Canadians, so if a team of security services arrives from the UK with apparently limitless resources to pursue their target, people over here will forget anything they ever knew about basic human rights and go along with what they are told to do and how they are told to behave. > 9. Complain to non-UK TV Watchdogs (Does Canada have an "Oprah > Winfrey ? Has Mike done this yet ?) > > 10. Complain to the EC Court of Human Rights. (Has Mike done > this yet ?) > > ........or...are 6,7,8,9,10 also all part of > the Conspiracy ? > > > > -- > john heelan 1021 Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90232
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    - MCSE Windows Problems and Solutions To know the solutions of common problems of setting a network by using WINDOWS 2000 or WINDOWS 2003 server visit this http://www.it-techexperts.com/MCSE/MCSEWin.asp Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90231
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    - Cannot save message log history Hi All, I can't enable message log function because the program had lock the click box in option under message log. After i use my friend msn account or reinstall MSN program, the problem still have. But if I logoff windows and then login as guest user account, the problem fixed. How to fix this problem, can anyone help me? Thanks a lot. -- KenL Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90230
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    - Re: unable to change password in msn or hotmail Hi Yes my friend is able to access msn but not hotmail. If he tries to access his over 70 emails he is taken to the hotmail log in page and sees a message about his password not being correct. I tried to log into msn on his computer too but i could also open msn but not hotmail. It seems that his computer doesnt allow the correct link between the msn and hotmail accounts.. However when we did a system restore to 17 april the system allows it. His wife told me she only downloaded the new McAfee software and Itunes since then. Any help apprecaited. Doug Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90229
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    - Transfering files at home Hi, When we occasionally need to transfer large files from one PC to another at home we do it by logging both PCs into messenger and sending the file that way. Does the file go all the way to some central server and then back again, or is the system intelligent enough to send it via the router without it ever leaving the confines of our home? Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90224
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    - Problem in using Microsoft Office Communicator and windows messeng I was using Windows messenger 5.1.0680. Now i have installed Microsoft Office Communicator2005 1.0.559. After installing this i could not able to use Windows messenger. SIP option is not available in windows messenger after that. Now i want to use both via SIP. Please help me out!.. Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90221
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    - Capture MSN activity Hi, I have looked around for this and cannot exactly work out how to do this. I am head of IT in a company where we need to use MSN all the time. I need to capture MSN conversations (internal and external) centrally. I would also like to be able to control the users contacts too or at least view them. There is one complication in that we use a product by secway that encrypts all MSN conversations end-to-end including file transfer. If anyone has any idea of how to do this, please let me know! Thanks, Phil Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90214
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    - Images in msn messenger Why does Microsoft resize images when put into msn messenger and windows messenger? I use msn messenger all the time and images are resized. Is there anything that can be done about this??? There is NO reason for Microsoft to do this. They need to fix it!!! If anyone knows a fix I would appreciate knowing. Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90208
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    - viewing profile How do I view the profile of someone please? Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90203
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    - =?Utf-8?Q?Can=E2=80=99t_Block_any_more_users=2C_Can=E2=80=99?= To my distress my MSN was listed on a public site, Now I canâ??t block any more MSN users, And canâ??t get rid of new â??addâ?? requests with out allowing them to see me I have ~30 people asking to "add me to their list" I am only presented with an option of "add" or "block" but my block list is already full with the previous ~50 people. I canâ??t clear the block list without approving them to my contact list and then deleting - but then they can add me to their contact list and msg me and send me nudges as they want. 3 options of better solutions: 1. Give another option - reject request once 2. Unlimited block list 3. Delete directly from the block list Do any of you know how to get this sort of request to the messenger design team? Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90202
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    - Using Windows Live APIs in Windows gadgets Folks, I have been exploring ideas for Windows Gadgets to promote collaboration. Messenger is a key component of this, but the Windows Live APIs appear to be poorly licensed for rich client applications. The main issue is that the gadget would be free, but if widely adopted would incur licensing costs (25c per user above 1 million users). So one of the biggest innovations on the Windows desktop cannot integrate niecly with the Windows Live initiative. I appreciate that advertising pays for the Messenger service. One solution would be a client-side advertising technology that the Windows Live license could regulate the use of in conjunction with the use of the Windows Live APIs. So rich client applications could recognize revenue through the use of advertising, which could be used to pay Windows Live licensing costs. In the absence of a clear solution, another option is for the gadget to talk directly to a local instance of Windows Live Messenger. My reading suggests that such an API was removed from MSN Messenger a few years back, and now only resides in Windows Messenger. Is there a clean way to talk to all Messenger clients nowadays, whether MSN or Windows Messenger? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Chris Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90199
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    - MSN will Not LOG IN I am using windows live messenger version 8.1 (build 8.1.0178.00) and I am unable to log in. I have uninstalled, reinstalled, to no avail. Symptoms: Put in Correct UName and PWD: get constant spinning guys (never logs in.. never times out) Put in Correct UName and Incorrect PWD: get immidiate "you have entered the wrong Password" dialog box (as expected). Not sure where to go from here. I have tried all I can think of. I removed all known references to it in the Registry. I have done everything I know how to. The Connection TroubleShooter (Tools->Options->Connection) says there is nothing wrong. No errors.. No errors in the Event Viewer.. Nothing?? I am at a loss. help! (thanks) Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90197
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    - Live Messenger doesn't show music played by WMP!!! Hi there! I've installed Win Live Messenger 8.1 and WMP 11 (OS is Windows XP Home SP2), but Messenger doesn't show info about the music WMP is playing, even though I turned on that feature inside L. Messenger; L. Messenger just shows music played by WinAmp (I've installed a plugin inside WinAmp for it)!!! What can I do?? Please Help! Thanks. Bye --- Racconti popolari, tradizioni e luoghi di Sardegna http://www.contusu.it --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound messaggio pulito. Controllato il: 03/06/2007 19.01.57 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90192
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    - Windows Live - Advertisements Is there any way to disable the advertisements at the bottom of the contact list? I've just switched over to live messenger and this is the one feature that kind of irks me. Thanks very much Carolyn Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90182
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    - unable to change password in msn or hotmail Hi My friend is unable to change the password in msn or hotmail. I think that this may have somethign to do with his internet settings (security??) but I cant work out how to help him. He is unable to even request a new password. Thanks Doug Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90179
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    - Pending Request in Live Messenger wont go away....why? I have a Pending Request in Live Messenger 8.1. I click the link and it brings up a window. I decline and click "done", but then it says: Pending Requests not available The Pending Requests service is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later. To find other spaces that interest you, go to Windows Live Spaces. It has said this for weeks. Is it ever going to be fixed? Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90178
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    - Random Conversations appearing. Messages of other people not speaking to me have popped up while I was working in another application on my computer. One was my son-in-laws but only his side of the conversation could be seen. He is not in my sign-in window in the drop down users. Has anyone else experienced this? Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90174
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    - tv-tuner conflicts with webcam I've just upgraded my Leadtek PVR2000 tuner card to PVR3000 Deluxe. As a side effect, when I'm trying to have a webcam session in WLM (v8.1.0178.00), it displays the picture of the tuner. I tried to set it in the Audio and Video setup, and in this setup the picture is fine: I can see the cam's picture. Then when I start using it in a chat, there's again the tuner's picture. I tried an other webcam, and it had the same problem, so it's not related to that. Also I tried to use the tuner and the cam simultaniously with Skype and it didn't have any problems (I could show my cam's picture in Skype while watching TV), so it really seems to be related to MSN (for me). I also tried to uninstall both webcam and tuner, and reinstall - didn't help. Also I tried the whole process in a fresh install of Windows XP - didn't help. Of course I'd really hate the idea that the only solution is to enable/disable the tuner card when I want to videochat with someone on MSN. Webcams used: 1. Philips ToUcam Pro (original) 2. Genius VideoCAM Look (for testing) Also tried the whole thing with WLM v8.5.1235.0517 Beta - same result :( Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90171
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    - Can not change status anymore? Ok, a contact of mine was having the problem that she coul;d not change her status anymore. All she was getting was the status Away ... and now I have also the same problem: I can not change my status anymore? I am on Away but when I want to switch to Online (or whatever status), nothing is happing? Well, not nothing: 5 minutes later finally MSN Messenger is showing the status I selected ? Seems to be an overall thing ( I have the prob and so do 3 other people on my contactlist) but I never encountered it before. -- Menno ===================== My 3D Art can be seen on http://www.3dart4u.com http://tinyurl.com/c8g96 (3DCommune) http://brycetest.3dart4u.com (Bryce Speed Test) http://wallpaper.3dart4u.com (3D and other wallpapers) ===================== Remove nospam in mail address when mailing me Tag: MSN for Mac Tag: 90167
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Hello,

I am currently using MSN for mac and for the past few days I've been
recieveing an error message saying that I cannot log on because the service
is temporarily unavailable. How can I fix this problem??

Thank you!

- Nina

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Re: MSN for Mac by Jonathan

Jonathan
Mon Jun 11 21:53:53 CDT 2007

Greetings,

Have you tried another account (make one if you don't have one) and see what happens?

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"Nina" <Nina@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:90A58CC1-95D6-4030-8B44-C963E78A86AC@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> I am currently using MSN for mac and for the past few days I've been
> recieveing an error message saying that I cannot log on because the service
> is temporarily unavailable. How can I fix this problem??
>
> Thank you!
>
> - Nina

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Re: MSN for Mac by Nina

Nina
Mon Jun 11 21:59:01 CDT 2007

Yeah I already tried that. Both accounts won't allow me to sign on.

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