win2k server (70-215) cram master practice test for sale

I have a examforce cram master practise test with exam cram2 content
for windows 2000 server for sale. It is for the microsoft 70-215 test.
Here's the description from their website: It's never been used.

http://www.examforce.com/customer/product.php?productid=16267&cat=0&page=1

TBone
Mon Apr 10 10:57:36 CDT 2006

And on the eigth day "gman" <gmendonc@gmail.com> did cause the electrons
to come together and form the following words:

> I have a examforce cram master practise test with exam cram2 content
> for windows 2000 server for sale. It is for the microsoft 70-215 test.
> Here's the description from their website: It's never been used.

Yes, but have you opened it? Their licenses are non-transferrable.

http://www.examforce.com/customer/supporteula.php

Interesting situation. If you don't agree to the licensing terms, do you
have to return it to them, or can you transfer it to someone else?

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MitchS
Mon Apr 10 10:59:13 CDT 2006

"gman" <gmendonc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144675186.732564.260340@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>I have a examforce cram master practise test with exam cram2 content
> for windows 2000 server for sale. It is for the microsoft 70-215 test.
> Here's the description from their website: It's never been used.
>
> http://www.examforce.com/customer/product.php?productid=16267&cat=0&page=1

I ain't buying nothing called crammaster, sounds kinda icky.

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JaR
Mon Apr 10 11:26:10 CDT 2006

TBone <reply2me@thenewsgroup> wrote in news:Xns97A179C2F81AAreplyhere@
207.46.248.16:

> Interesting situation. If you don't agree to the licensing terms, do you
> have to return it to them, or can you transfer it to someone else?

You bet. Easy-peasy

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gman
Mon Apr 10 14:07:25 CDT 2006

Hmmmm....well that sucks. I can see if someone were making copies and
selling them without a license why that would be prohibited. But I'm
selling the original media and licenses so why the big deal. I'm
sending them a query to get an affirmative answer one way or another.
Interesting point on what happens if I refuse the terms of the license.
I'll keep everyone posted as to what happens.

JaR
Mon Apr 10 14:38:39 CDT 2006

"gman" <gmendonc@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144696045.855246.288020
@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> Hmmmm....well that sucks. I can see if someone were making copies and
> selling them without a license why that would be prohibited. But I'm
> selling the original media and licenses so why the big deal. I'm
> sending them a query to get an affirmative answer one way or another.
> Interesting point on what happens if I refuse the terms of the license.
> I'll keep everyone posted as to what happens.

If you never used them, then return them for a refund. If you have used
them, then you agreed to the terms of the license, part of which states
that you may not resell the product. Pretty simple, really.

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gman
Mon Apr 10 15:42:03 CDT 2006

>If you never used them, then return them for a refund. If you have used
>them, then you agreed to the terms of the license, part of which states
>that you may not resell the product. Pretty simple, really.

I've yet to see a company refund money for a return made after 30 to 60
days. I've had these things more than a year probably two. We'll see
what they say but I doubt I'm getting a refund. They sent me some cd's
in paper sleeves in a padded envelope. There was no shrink wrapped
package as is typical with most software so it's pretty hard for me to
prove I never opened the package. Almost seemed like I was buying
something from a business run out of someone's garage rather than a
professional software company.

kpg
Mon Apr 10 16:01:29 CDT 2006

As gman once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> Almost seemed like I was buying something from a business run
> out of someone's garage rather than a professional software
> company.

Well, with an endorsement like that, how much do you want?

JaR
Mon Apr 10 16:04:25 CDT 2006

"gman" <gmendonc@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144701723.281809.132850
@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Almost seemed like I was buying
> something from a business run out of someone's garage rather than a
> professional software company.
>

*shrugs*

Caveat emptor.

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Bigus
Tue Apr 11 00:26:28 CDT 2006

**gman's** the one who fcukin said it
<<-------------------------------->>
> ...I've had these things more than a year probably two.

And you think WE would want that OLD technology??




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Bigus
Tue Apr 11 00:28:14 CDT 2006

**MitchS's** the one who fcukin said it
<<-------------------------------->>
>
> I ain't buying nothing called crammaster, sounds kinda icky.
>
Crammaster: What lowdes is gonna nickname his jail hubby.

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gman
Tue Apr 11 07:55:53 CDT 2006

>And you think WE would want that OLD technology??


It's still a valid technology/test and I've plainly stated what tests
this software pertains to. If it doesn't fit your bill then don't buy
it!

As far as my statement about the packaging, it doesn't mean that this
is not a good product. In fact they are highly rated and if anyone has
ever used the exam cram books you know what I mean. They even
guarantee that you'll pass your test so they do stand by their product.
They also give you free upgrades so if I can sell them you can upgrade
them to sql server 2005 for free!

Bigus
Tue Apr 11 08:30:26 CDT 2006

**gman's** the one who fcukin said it
<<-------------------------------->>
>> And you think WE would want that OLD technology??
>
>
> It's still a valid technology/test and I've plainly stated what tests
> this software pertains to. If it doesn't fit your bill then don't buy
> it!
>
> As far as my statement about the packaging, it doesn't mean that this
> is not a good product. In fact they are highly rated and if anyone
> has ever used the exam cram books you know what I mean. They even
> guarantee that you'll pass your test so they do stand by their
> product. They also give you free upgrades so if I can sell them you
> can upgrade them to sql server 2005 for free!
>
Thanks for the explanation, but I was kidding.

Or maybe not, as you can see all the people that are just *jumping* over
each other to get to you.

Best bet.....Leave your e-mail address. I'm POSITIVE you will get e-mail as
a result.

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JaR
Tue Apr 11 10:12:01 CDT 2006

"gman" <gmendonc@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144760153.396244.311850
@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

>
> It's still a valid technology/test and I've plainly stated what tests
> this software pertains to. If it doesn't fit your bill then don't buy
> it!
>
> As far as my statement about the packaging, it doesn't mean that this
> is not a good product. In fact they are highly rated and if anyone has
> ever used the exam cram books you know what I mean. They even
> guarantee that you'll pass your test so they do stand by their product.
> They also give you free upgrades so if I can sell them you can upgrade
> them to sql server 2005 for free!

Really? If it's such a whiz-bang product why did you not use it? If they
stand by their product, why in heck would you not be able to get a
refund? Your point about the upgrades is moot, because you can't re-sell
the software.

It seems we have a credibility gap here.

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MitchS
Tue Apr 11 12:12:53 CDT 2006

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
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> It seems we have a credibility gap here.

The devil you say! That's never happened here before.

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gman
Tue Apr 11 13:13:29 CDT 2006

>Really? If it's such a whiz-bang product why did you not use it? If they
>stand by their product, why in heck would you not be able to get a
>refund? Your point about the upgrades is moot, because you can't re-sell
>the software.

I already told you why I didn't use the product, read the beginning of
the thread will you? It's been a year or longer since I bought the
product like I said previously, I don't know of any company that will
give you a refund after 30 to 60 days. The only sticking point with
them is if I can resell the software or not. I've got a query into
them now to find out what they say. Regardless of what they say I can
still sell the media/software there just won't be any upgrades or
pass/fail guarantees to whomever buys them. At $40 it's a substantial
discount over the $100 list price. My email is gmendonca@gmail.com if
anyone is interested in actually buying them.

Di©kus
Tue Apr 11 13:59:44 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, gman spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
>> Really? If it's such a whiz-bang product why did you not use it? If
>> they stand by their product, why in heck would you not be able to
>> get a refund? Your point about the upgrades is moot, because you
>> can't re-sell the software.
>
> I already told you why I didn't use the product, read the beginning of
> the thread will you? It's been a year or longer since I bought the
> product like I said previously, I don't know of any company that will
> give you a refund after 30 to 60 days. The only sticking point with
> them is if I can resell the software or not. I've got a query into
> them now to find out what they say. Regardless of what they say I can
> still sell the media/software there just won't be any upgrades or
> pass/fail guarantees to whomever buys them. At $40 it's a substantial
> discount over the $100 list price. My email is gmendonca@gmail.com if
> anyone is interested in actually buying them.
>
The right buttons? I think so!

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JaR
Tue Apr 11 14:37:51 CDT 2006

"gman" <gmendonc@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144779209.932691.26050
@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

> At $40 it's a substantial
> discount over the $100 list price. My email is gmendonca@gmail.com if
> anyone is interested in actually buying them.
>

Well, gmendonca@gmail.com , good luck to ya. You don't sound like the kind
of person that I'd send forty bucks to, but that's just me.

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kpg
Tue Apr 11 14:51:07 CDT 2006

As JaR once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> Well, gmendonca@gmail.com , good luck to ya. You don't sound like the
> kind of person that I'd send forty bucks to, but that's just me.

lol

Di©kus
Tue Apr 11 14:57:31 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, JaR spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> "gman" <gmendonc@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144779209.932691.26050
> @e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
>
>> At $40 it's a substantial
>> discount over the $100 list price. My email is gmendonca@gmail.com
>> if anyone is interested in actually buying them.
>>
>
> Well, gmendonca@gmail.com , good luck to ya. You don't sound like the
> kind of person that I'd send forty bucks to, but that's just me.
>
Not *just* you. What, do you think you're special?

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kpg
Tue Apr 11 15:05:06 CDT 2006

As gman once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> I already told you why I didn't use the product, read the beginning of
> the thread will you? It's been a year or longer since I bought the
> product like I said previously, I don't know of any company that will
> give you a refund after 30 to 60 days. The only sticking point with
> them is if I can resell the software or not. I've got a query into
> them now to find out what they say. Regardless of what they say I can
> still sell the media/software there just won't be any upgrades or
> pass/fail guarantees to whomever buys them. At $40 it's a substantial
> discount over the $100 list price. My email is gmendonca@gmail.com if
> anyone is interested in actually buying them.

Let me help you out gman. You're right, anyone interested can contact
you at gmendonca@gmail.com, because gmendonca@gmail.com is your email
address, and well, ok, enough of that.

You seem like a nice guy. I'm sure the company would just as soon get
paid by a potential new customer rather than giving you a refund and/or
the legal right to re-sell the product. But they already made their
money from the sale, and you said you never used it, so moarlly I'm sure
it can be justifed.

As far as the legal matter, what the heck. You're doing a job that most
Americans wouldn't do anyway, selling CramMaster at a greatly discounted
price, and all for the benefit of others. Good for you!

So long as the material doesn't violate the NDA I'm, cool with it. So
anyone interested please contact gmendonca@gmail.com and tell them Bigus
Di©kus sent you.

Si©kus
Tue Apr 11 15:52:53 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, kpg spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> As gman once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>> I already told you why I didn't use the product, read the beginning
>> of the thread will you? It's been a year or longer since I bought
>> the product like I said previously, I don't know of any company that
>> will give you a refund after 30 to 60 days. The only sticking point
>> with them is if I can resell the software or not. I've got a query
>> into them now to find out what they say. Regardless of what they
>> say I can still sell the media/software there just won't be any
>> upgrades or pass/fail guarantees to whomever buys them. At $40 it's
>> a substantial discount over the $100 list price. My email is
>> gmendonca@gmail.com if anyone is interested in actually buying them.
>
> Let me help you out gman. You're right, anyone interested can contact
> you at gmendonca@gmail.com, because gmendonca@gmail.com is your email
> address, and well, ok, enough of that.
>
> You seem like a nice guy. I'm sure the company would just as soon get
> paid by a potential new customer rather than giving you a refund
> and/or the legal right to re-sell the product. But they already made
> their money from the sale, and you said you never used it, so moarlly
> I'm sure it can be justifed.
>
> As far as the legal matter, what the heck. You're doing a job that
> most Americans wouldn't do anyway, selling CramMaster at a greatly
> discounted price, and all for the benefit of others. Good for you!
>
> So long as the material doesn't violate the NDA I'm, cool with it. So
> anyone interested please contact gmendonca@gmail.com and tell them
> Bigus Di©kus sent you.
>
Ouch!

Thank you sir, may I have another!

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kpg
Tue Apr 11 15:58:47 CDT 2006

> Thank you sir, may I have another!

Sorry. I was just bored.

...and no, the first one is free, you have to pay for the others.

Si©kus
Tue Apr 11 16:02:26 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, kpg spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
>> Thank you sir, may I have another!
>
> Sorry. I was just bored.
>
> ...and no, the first one is free, you have to pay for the others.
>
Did I say I *wouldn't* pay?

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gman
Wed Apr 12 09:57:46 CDT 2006

Got an answer back from exam force. I can sell the software with no
problems, new owner/user can call and register with them. However
upgrades and guarantees are not transferable. So it's all legit. Also
I'm not sure why but I put my email address in one of my previous posts
and it came out masked. My email address is gmendoncaNOSPAM@gmail.com
(just remove the nospam)if you're interested in the software. I also
have two others for sql server 2000.

Si©kus
Wed Apr 12 14:38:18 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, gman spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> Got an answer back from exam force. I can sell the software with no
> problems,

Of course you can...considering you can find a buyer

> new owner/user can call and register with them. However
> upgrades and guarantees are not transferable.

Is this not what we had stated from the beginning? Without the upgrades and
guarantees, the software is useless.

> So it's all legit.
> Also I'm not sure why but I put my email address in one of my
> previous posts and it came out masked. My email address is
> gmendonca@gmail.com (just remove the nospam)if you're
> interested in the software. I also have two others for sql server
> 2000.

Eh...you'll get better results in the local classified ads.

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