windows server 2003 classes

has anyone attended any windows 2003 server classes

if so, which one, and what where your thoughts

I am going to take
Course 2664:
Introducing Windows Server 2003 to Windows NT Server IT Professionals

and was wondering if anyone else has taken it, and what they thought

here are the objective
http://www.netdesk.com/CourseInfo/Outlines/2664.ht

bob
Thu Feb 05 05:55:22 CST 2004

shite, dont waste your $$$ better off getting the book and
studing it on own alot cheaper and you'll learn a lot more
>-----Original Message-----
>has anyone attended any windows 2003 server classes?
>
>if so, which one, and what where your thoughts.
>
>I am going to take:
>Course 2664:
>Introducing Windows Server 2003 to Windows NT Server IT
Professionals
>
>and was wondering if anyone else has taken it, and what
they thought.
>
>here are the objectives
>http://www.netdesk.com/CourseInfo/Outlines/2664.htm
>
>.
>

xakeP
Thu Feb 05 11:45:58 CST 2004

I'm not paying, its for work. They are sending me there.
They have a big fat contract so they get most these
classes for free, so they decided to send me.

>-----Original Message-----
>shite, dont waste your $$$ better off getting the book
and
>studing it on own alot cheaper and you'll learn a lot more
>>-----Original Message-----
>>has anyone attended any windows 2003 server classes?
>>
>>if so, which one, and what where your thoughts.
>>
>>I am going to take:
>>Course 2664:
>>Introducing Windows Server 2003 to Windows NT Server IT
>Professionals
>>
>>and was wondering if anyone else has taken it, and what
>they thought.
>>
>>here are the objectives
>>http://www.netdesk.com/CourseInfo/Outlines/2664.htm
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Anonymous
Thu Feb 05 12:57:15 CST 2004

I agree all boot camps are not worth the cost. First of
all they cost way too much and your right you will
actually learn more by just buying the books and studying
at home!!! Save your money and don't ever go on a course
unless its being paid for by your boss/company and invest
in a good quality book for study. After you finish the
exam you can always recoup some of the money you spent on
the book by selling it on amazon or ebay!! Take care and
bye bye.
>-----Original Message-----
>shite, dont waste your $$$ better off getting the book
and
>studing it on own alot cheaper and you'll learn a lot more
>>-----Original Message-----
>>has anyone attended any windows 2003 server classes?
>>
>>if so, which one, and what where your thoughts.
>>
>>I am going to take:
>>Course 2664:
>>Introducing Windows Server 2003 to Windows NT Server IT
>Professionals
>>
>>and was wondering if anyone else has taken it, and what
>they thought.
>>
>>here are the objectives
>>http://www.netdesk.com/CourseInfo/Outlines/2664.htm
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Rowdy
Thu Feb 05 13:43:11 CST 2004

I went to a couple. My work also paid for mine.

I found them to be not as useful as reading a book on the subject.
Perhaps a few months down the road, Microsoft will tweak and perfect the
class curiculum a bit more.

One problem I have with instructor led classes is that you go off topic
and into tangents too much. There are always at least 1 or 2 people
trying to show off their amazing tech. abilities and great achievements
in life.

Things I have learnt in IT....
#1 - the guys that don't know much - talk the most.
#2 - the guys that know a lot - don't say much.

Yabba Dabba Doo....



"xakeP" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in news:acd501c3ec0f
$e9b42df0$a001280a@phx.gbl:

> I'm not paying, its for work. They are sending me there.
> They have a big fat contract so they get most these
> classes for free, so they decided to send me.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>shite, dont waste your $$$ better off getting the book
> and
>>studing it on own alot cheaper and you'll learn a lot more
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>has anyone attended any windows 2003 server classes?
>>>
>>>if so, which one, and what where your thoughts.
>>>
>>>I am going to take:
>>>Course 2664:
>>>Introducing Windows Server 2003 to Windows NT Server IT
>>Professionals
>>>
>>>and was wondering if anyone else has taken it, and what
>>they thought.
>>>
>>>here are the objectives
>>>http://www.netdesk.com/CourseInfo/Outlines/2664.htm
>>>
>>>.


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Laura
Fri Feb 06 11:59:55 CST 2004

circa Thu, 05 Feb 2004 11:43:11 -0800, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Rowdy Yates (rowdy_yates2
@removethis.lycos.com) said,
>
> I went to a couple. My work also paid for mine.
>
> I found them to be not as useful as reading a book on the subject.
> Perhaps a few months down the road, Microsoft will tweak and perfect the
> class curiculum a bit more.
>
> One problem I have with instructor led classes is that you go off topic
> and into tangents too much. There are always at least 1 or 2 people
> trying to show off their amazing tech. abilities and great achievements
> in life.


Then find an instructor who can alphageek the students and shut them
up.

Laura
--
I am Dyslexia of Borg,
Your ass will be laminated.

Laura
Fri Feb 06 12:00:30 CST 2004

circa Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:57:15 -0800, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Anonymous
(anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com) said,
> I agree all boot camps are not worth the cost. First of
> all they cost way too much and your right you will
> actually learn more by just buying the books and studying
> at home!!! Save your money and don't ever go on a course
> unless its being paid for by your boss/company and invest
> in a good quality book for study. After you finish the
> exam you can always recoup some of the money you spent on
> the book by selling it on amazon or ebay!! Take care and
> bye bye.
>
Ummm, the course about which the OP asked is not a boot camp. It is a
single MOC course.

Laura
--
I am Dyslexia of Borg,
Your ass will be laminated.

Politician
Fri Feb 06 12:18:40 CST 2004

"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@removethis.lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns948695899D312rowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16...
>
> One problem I have with instructor led classes is that you go off topic
> and into tangents too much. There are always at least 1 or 2 people
> trying to show off their amazing tech. abilities and great achievements
> in life.

Remind them that they haven't had sex with a woman since 1995...

...or free sex since 1993.

They usually shut up after that.

--
Politician Spock
Thug #24601

MikeF
Sat Feb 07 22:19:01 CST 2004


"Laura A. Robinson" <geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a8da04c92f6084598a9e9@msnews.microsoft.com...
> circa Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:57:15 -0800, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Anonymous
> (anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com) said,
> > I agree all boot camps are not worth the cost. First of
> > all they cost way too much and your right you will
> > actually learn more by just buying the books and studying
> > at home!!! Save your money and don't ever go on a course
> > unless its being paid for by your boss/company and invest
> > in a good quality book for study. After you finish the
> > exam you can always recoup some of the money you spent on
> > the book by selling it on amazon or ebay!! Take care and
> > bye bye.
> >
> Ummm, the course about which the OP asked is not a boot camp. It is
a
> single MOC course.
>
> Laura

Ummm, MOC courses, as _usually_ delivered, teach, or attempt to teach,
the equivalent of a 600-1200 page self study text in 5 six-to-eight
hour days. If this ain't a boot camp, it sure is a sort of boot in
the ass.

Mike

Laura
Mon Feb 09 16:18:24 CST 2004

In article <ePN3oqf7DHA.2812@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>, wallacestevens54
@removethisfirstyahoo.com says...
>
> Ummm, MOC courses, as _usually_ delivered, teach, or attempt to teach,
> the equivalent of a 600-1200 page self study text in 5 six-to-eight
> hour days. If this ain't a boot camp, it sure is a sort of boot in
> the ass.
>
How many Windows Server 2003 courses have you taken? Specifically,
Windows 2003.

It's NOT a boot camp, and no MOC course is even close to the common
definition of a boot camp in IT.

Laura

Laura
Mon Feb 09 16:21:07 CST 2004

In article <MPG.1a91d13f7dca03a8989767@nn.bloomberg.com>,
use_first_initial_and_last_name@technologist.com says...
> >
> > Ummm, MOC courses, as _usually_ delivered, teach, or attempt to teach,
> > the equivalent of a 600-1200 page self study text in 5 six-to-eight
> > hour days. If this ain't a boot camp, it sure is a sort of boot in
> > the ass.
> >
> How many Windows Server 2003 courses have you taken? Specifically,
> Windows 2003.
>
> It's NOT a boot camp, and no MOC course is even close to the common
> definition of a boot camp in IT.
>
P.S. Consider carefully before you answer, 'cause I'll bet you dollars
to doughnuts that I'm a lot more familiar with MOC than you are. No
offense intended; in this newsgroup I just see a whole lot of claims to
know something without a lot of evidence that that's actually the case.

Laura