Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble figuring out what I need to learn to become MCSE certified.
I looked at the Microsoft site:
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/

They're talking about core, elective and upgrade exams.

I have no previous certifications, so what parts do I need to study te
become an MCSE? Only the Core exams?

Core exams containing:
Networking system: 70-290,70-291,70-293,70-294
Client OS: 70-270 or 70-210
Design: 70-298 or 70-297

If I'm right, what are the 'elective' exams all about...
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Regards,

Pieter

Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by FrisbeeŽ

Frisbee®
Wed Apr 12 10:55:00 CDT 2006

"Pieter Pessemier" <PieterPessemier@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:176D6E63-1CDF-44DF-90BB-674959485160@microsoft.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm having trouble figuring out what I need to learn to become MCSE
> certified.
> I looked at the Microsoft site:
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/?wp_ml=0
>
> They're talking about core, elective and upgrade exams.
>
> I have no previous certifications, so what parts do I need to study te
> become an MCSE? Only the Core exams?
>
> Core exams containing:
> Networking system: 70-290,70-291,70-293,70-294
> Client OS: 70-270 or 70-210
> Design: 70-298 or 70-297
>
> If I'm right, what are the 'elective' exams all about...

For the love of $deity, please tell me that you are a troll.



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by JaR

JaR
Wed Apr 12 12:44:38 CDT 2006

"Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in news:#ToR1lkXGHA.4120
@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> For the love of $deity, please tell me that you are a troll.

Ahhh, Frisbee, ever the optomist ;-)

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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by SiŠkus

Si©kus
Wed Apr 12 14:11:06 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Pieter Pessemier spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm having trouble figuring out what I need to learn to become MCSE
> certified. I looked at the Microsoft site:
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/
>
> They're talking about core, elective and upgrade exams.
>
> I have no previous certifications, so what parts do I need to study te
> become an MCSE? Only the Core exams?
>
> Core exams containing:
> Networking system: 70-290,70-291,70-293,70-294
> Client OS: 70-270 or 70-210
> Design: 70-298 or 70-297
>
> If I'm right, what are the 'elective' exams all about...
>
You obviously have reading comprehension issues. On the page you linked to, it
*clearly* states what is required. Go back and read it *carefully*. If you want
to become an MCSE, you have to be able to understand and troubleshoot
issues....even your own.


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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by CBIC

CBIC
Wed Apr 12 14:16:38 CDT 2006

If you want to become an MCSE, you have to be able to
> understand and troubleshoot issues....even your own.

Really? Nah, you're joshing.
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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by SiŠkus

Si©kus
Wed Apr 12 14:40:39 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, CBIC spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> If you want to become an MCSE, you have to be able to
>> understand and troubleshoot issues....even your own.
>
> Really? Nah, you're joshing.
>
Maybe

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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by Kline

Kline
Wed Apr 12 15:01:20 CDT 2006

>I'm having trouble figuring out what I need to learn to become MCSE certified.

truly unbelievable....

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by Kline

Kline
Wed Apr 12 15:02:12 CDT 2006

>For the love of $deity, please tell me that you are a troll.

let us pray....

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by kpg

kpg
Wed Apr 12 15:45:39 CDT 2006

As Pieter Pessemier once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
> I'm having trouble figuring out what I need to learn to become MCSE
> certified. I looked at the Microsoft site:
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/
>
> They're talking about core, elective and upgrade exams.
>
> I have no previous certifications, so what parts do I need to study te
> become an MCSE? Only the Core exams?
>
> Core exams containing:
> Networking system: 70-290,70-291,70-293,70-294
> Client OS: 70-270 or 70-210
> Design: 70-298 or 70-297
>
> If I'm right, what are the 'elective' exams all about...

The answer is...

GREEN.

No...BLUE, GREEN, No..,wait, yes...SEVEN,

Yeah, that's it, SEVEN.

kp "see, it's not that hard" g

Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by shade73

shade73
Fri Apr 14 08:07:42 CDT 2006

Core exams (six exams required)
Elective exams (one exam required)
Upgrade exams (two exams required)

This information was obtained from the site you posted, just an FYI.
There you go :)
Btw, all you jerks had time to post smart ass comments, so why didn't
anyone tack that on to the end? Oh yeah, b/c you're not only arrogant
you're lazy :P.
shade73


Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by FrisbeeŽ

Frisbee®
Fri Apr 14 08:34:44 CDT 2006

"shade73" <tkelly73@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145020062.560292.291730@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Core exams (six exams required)
> Elective exams (one exam required)
> Upgrade exams (two exams required)
>
> This information was obtained from the site you posted, just an FYI.
> There you go :)
> Btw, all you jerks had time to post smart ass comments, so why didn't
> anyone tack that on to the end? Oh yeah, b/c you're not only arrogant
> you're lazy :P.
> shade73

You know, I just bought this brand spanking new Irony Meter® v. 8.13.954 and
it STILL got busted. Springs and glass everywhere. This is kind of like of
like how Syndro (or however he spells it) had to keep building better and
better robots to beat all the superheroes in The Incredibles. shade73 was
more powerful than the latest irony meter, so they must now go back to the
drawing board to build a better one to defeat the great and powerful
shade73!

At least he got "you're" right.



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by Bigus

Bigus
Fri Apr 14 08:47:24 CDT 2006

**Frisbee®'s** the one who fcukin said it
<<-------------------------------->>
> "shade73" <tkelly73@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1145020062.560292.291730@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> Core exams (six exams required)
>> Elective exams (one exam required)
>> Upgrade exams (two exams required)
>>
>> This information was obtained from the site you posted, just an FYI.
>> There you go :)
>> Btw, all you jerks had time to post smart ass comments, so why didn't
>> anyone tack that on to the end? Oh yeah, b/c you're not only
>> arrogant you're lazy :P.
>> shade73
>
> You know, I just bought this brand spanking new Irony Meter® v.
> 8.13.954 and it STILL got busted. Springs and glass everywhere. This is
> kind of like of like how Syndro (or however he spells it) had
> to keep building better and better robots to beat all the superheroes
> in The Incredibles. shade73 was more powerful than the latest irony
> meter, so they must now go back to the drawing board to build a
> better one to defeat the great and powerful shade73!
>
Ya know...IM v 8.13.954 was designed to be idiot-proof, but you *knew* they
were gonna build a better idiot at some point. Well, there it is, shade73 is
your new, baseline, idiot-proof, tool tester, thingy.


> At least he got "you're" right.
Eh...personally, I think he got lucky.


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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by Bigus

Bigus
Fri Apr 14 08:52:39 CDT 2006

**shade73's** the one who fcukin said it
<<-------------------------------->>
> Core exams (six exams required)
> Elective exams (one exam required)
> Upgrade exams (two exams required)
>
> This information was obtained from the site you posted, just an FYI.
> There you go :)
> Btw, all you jerks had time to post smart ass comments, so why didn't
> anyone tack that on to the end? Oh yeah, b/c you're not only arrogant
> you're lazy :P.
> shade73
>
Because the Dolt was supposed to figure it out himself. And from the looks
of it, *you* couldn't figure that out.

If you can't figure something out for yourself, then you shouldn't be in
IS/IT. Which goes to say that *you* shouldn't be in IS/IT, because I just
had to point that out to you.

Had my previous post not been deleted, you wouldn't have been posting this
message, because I had explained all that.

--
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MCNGP Sb (Antimony)
--You can't have it....it's *mine*



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by Andy

Andy
Fri Apr 14 09:04:38 CDT 2006

Hi Pieter,
I think explaining why we put the program together in this may help. For our
certification, there are fundamental things you need to know how to do with
the core operating system. But, on the job, you will have to make it do
something, like run an email solution or run a name resolution or IP
addressing solution.

The certification is broken into the core knowledge about the operating
system, that is the fundamental stuff you need to know about the system, and
then some electives, that allow you to "specialize" your knowledge towars a
certain job role. That may be web services, security, messaging, etc. That
way, when you go to get a job you can say what version of the operating
system you are certified in and what additional skills areas you are
certified in.

For the upgrade exams, we put those together so that people that are
certified on previous versions of our products can just show they have the
skills around the new aspects of the new products. For instance, the changes
with DNS between Windows 2000 and Windows Server 2003 are pretty
significant, so in the upgrade exams we test on the differences rather than
the comprehensive knowledge on an area.

For the new person that wants to get certified, an approach many people use
is to gain knowledge on the core aspects of either the desktop or server,
and then add to those skills. Most of the training and exams we produced for
Windows Server 2003 is structured that way.
Hope this helps. Good luck!

--
Andy Ruth
Program Manager for the Microsoft Certified Architect program
Microsoft Learning

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Pieter Pessemier" <PieterPessemier@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:176D6E63-1CDF-44DF-90BB-674959485160@microsoft.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm having trouble figuring out what I need to learn to become MCSE
> certified.
> I looked at the Microsoft site:
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/
>
> They're talking about core, elective and upgrade exams.
>
> I have no previous certifications, so what parts do I need to study te
> become an MCSE? Only the Core exams?
>
> Core exams containing:
> Networking system: 70-290,70-291,70-293,70-294
> Client OS: 70-270 or 70-210
> Design: 70-298 or 70-297
>
> If I'm right, what are the 'elective' exams all about...
> --
> Regards,
>
> Pieter



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by shade73

shade73
Fri Apr 14 09:11:59 CDT 2006

Very nice, I love the IT community. Sounds like a bunch of cynical 40
year olds who need their ego's stroked to me. So the guy needs help,
it takes you 30 seconds to help him. You know what, This is the
problem with the damn IT community as a whole. Everyone thinks they're
the damn genious, and everyone else is an idiot.

Oh btw, I don't think any of you should be in IT with the attitudes you
have. What ever happened to the people who loved information because
it was INFORMATION and loved SHARING IT. Oh that's right they all
"grew up", realized their jobs were in jeopardy by people like the
original poster.


Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by FrisbeeŽ

Frisbee®
Fri Apr 14 09:39:03 CDT 2006

"shade73" <tkelly73@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145023918.952637.323670@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> Very nice, I love the IT community. Sounds like a bunch of cynical 40
> year olds who need their ego's stroked to me. So the guy needs help,
> it takes you 30 seconds to help him. You know what, This is the
> problem with the damn IT community as a whole. Everyone thinks they're
> the damn genious, and everyone else is an idiot.
>
> Oh btw, I don't think any of you should be in IT with the attitudes you
> have. What ever happened to the people who loved information because
> it was INFORMATION and loved SHARING IT. Oh that's right they all
> "grew up", realized their jobs were in jeopardy by people like the
> original poster.

That's a funny way of saying "I don't want to do any research on getting my
certification in a field that requires researching skills. You all do it
for me, okay?"



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by shade73

shade73
Fri Apr 14 10:16:03 CDT 2006

No I agree with that completely, but then hey, he's not gonna make it
through it & The book companys will make some money, so no harm no foul
:P


Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by SiŠkus

Si©kus
Fri Apr 14 10:13:13 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, shade73 spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> Very nice, I love the IT community. Sounds like a bunch of cynical 40
> year olds who need their ego's stroked to me. So the guy needs help,
> it takes you 30 seconds to help him. You know what, This is the
> problem with the damn IT community as a whole. Everyone thinks
> they're the damn genious, and everyone else is an idiot.
>
Actually, we're tired of losing our jobs because the boss has decided to
outsource to a company that employs morons and charges 1/10th the money that it
takes to keep us on Full-Time. We are here to make sure the idiots don't get
through the system anymore, (Not that we can *really* do that), but we can deter
them.

Also...if you would spend a little time reading some of the 1000's of previous
posts in here, you would see that nearly *every* question has been answered at
least once...most have been answered dozens of times.

No, we are not the ones that think we are the damb geniuses (ok...yes we
do...but that's not the point), we're tired of all the people walking in here
thinking that THEY are SOOOO damb smart that THEIR question has never been asked
before. If even 1/2 of the people that post questions in here took just 5
minutes to search these posts and then another 55 minutes reading some of them
(this place would be no fun) then you wouldn't have to stick your penny in the
pot.

> Oh btw, I don't think any of you should be in IT with the attitudes
> you have. What ever happened to the people who loved information
> because it was INFORMATION and loved SHARING IT. Oh that's right
> they all "grew up", realized their jobs were in jeopardy by people
> like the original poster.
>
You'll grow up eventually.

--
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MCNGP #51
-- You don't sound sick!
-- I'm fsukin my dog...that sound sick enough for ya??



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by SiŠkus

Si©kus
Fri Apr 14 10:15:56 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Andy Ruth [MSFT] spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> Hi Pieter,
> I think explaining why we put the program together in this may help.
> For our certification, there are fundamental things you need to know
> how to do with the core operating system. But, on the job, you will
> have to make it do something, like run an email solution or run a
> name resolution or IP addressing solution.
>
> The certification is broken into the core knowledge about the
> operating system, that is the fundamental stuff you need to know
> about the system, and then some electives, that allow you to
> "specialize" your knowledge towars a certain job role. That may be
> web services, security, messaging, etc. That way, when you go to get
> a job you can say what version of the operating system you are
> certified in and what additional skills areas you are certified in.
>
> For the upgrade exams, we put those together so that people that are
> certified on previous versions of our products can just show they
> have the skills around the new aspects of the new products. For
> instance, the changes with DNS between Windows 2000 and Windows
> Server 2003 are pretty significant, so in the upgrade exams we test
> on the differences rather than the comprehensive knowledge on an area.
>
> For the new person that wants to get certified, an approach many
> people use is to gain knowledge on the core aspects of either the
> desktop or server, and then add to those skills. Most of the training
> and exams we produced for Windows Server 2003 is structured that way.
> Hope this helps. Good luck!
>
>
> "Pieter Pessemier" <PieterPessemier@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message news:176D6E63-1CDF-44DF-90BB-674959485160@microsoft.com...
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm having trouble figuring out what I need to learn to become MCSE
>> certified.
>> I looked at the Microsoft site:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/
>>
>> They're talking about core, elective and upgrade exams.
>>
>> I have no previous certifications, so what parts do I need to study
>> te become an MCSE? Only the Core exams?
>>
>> Core exams containing:
>> Networking system: 70-290,70-291,70-293,70-294
>> Client OS: 70-270 or 70-210
>> Design: 70-298 or 70-297
>>
>> If I'm right, what are the 'elective' exams all about...
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pieter

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-- You don't sound sick!
-- I'm fsukin my dog...that sound sick enough for ya??



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by SiŠkus

Si©kus
Fri Apr 14 10:18:45 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Andy Ruth [MSFT] spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> Hi Pieter,
> I think explaining why we put the program together in this may help.
> For our certification, there are fundamental things you need to know
> how to do with the core operating system. But, on the job, you will
> have to make it do something, like run an email solution or run a
> name resolution or IP addressing solution.
>
> The certification is broken into the core knowledge about the
> operating system, that is the fundamental stuff you need to know
> about the system, and then some electives, that allow you to
> "specialize" your knowledge towars a certain job role. That may be
> web services, security, messaging, etc. That way, when you go to get
> a job you can say what version of the operating system you are
> certified in and what additional skills areas you are certified in.
>
> For the upgrade exams, we put those together so that people that are
> certified on previous versions of our products can just show they
> have the skills around the new aspects of the new products. For
> instance, the changes with DNS between Windows 2000 and Windows
> Server 2003 are pretty significant, so in the upgrade exams we test
> on the differences rather than the comprehensive knowledge on an area.
>
> For the new person that wants to get certified, an approach many
> people use is to gain knowledge on the core aspects of either the
> desktop or server, and then add to those skills. Most of the training
> and exams we produced for Windows Server 2003 is structured that way.
> Hope this helps. Good luck!
>
>
I think my Irony Meter is broken.....It's reading 0....
--
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MCNGP #51
-- You don't sound sick!
-- I'm fsukin my dog...that sound sick enough for ya??



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by JaR

JaR
Fri Apr 14 10:24:19 CDT 2006

"shade73" <tkelly73@gmail.com> wrote in news:1145023918.952637.323670
@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com:

> Very nice, I love the IT community. Sounds like a bunch of cynical 40
> year olds who need their ego's stroked to me. So the guy needs help,
> it takes you 30 seconds to help him. You know what, This is the
> problem with the damn IT community as a whole. Everyone thinks they're
> the damn genious, and everyone else is an idiot.
>
> Oh btw, I don't think any of you should be in IT with the attitudes you
> have. What ever happened to the people who loved information because
> it was INFORMATION and loved SHARING IT. Oh that's right they all
> "grew up", realized their jobs were in jeopardy by people like the
> original poster.
>

Well, I for one, am happy that you have decided to join this group. Your
attitude is a breath of fresh air here. Welcome!

Now that you will be answering all the dumb questions from now on, the
regulars here can devote their time to more productive, or at least more
amusing, pursuits.

Don't worry, you won't even have to read every post looking for stupid
questions, because I am so impressed with your generous spirit that I
will ping you if I happen to stumble across one that you missed, and I'm
sure others will as well.

Thanks! And enjoy your stay here at the asylum.

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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by Neil

Neil
Fri Apr 14 10:32:14 CDT 2006

did you hear "Bigus Si©kus" <Bigus Si©kus@¹¥çÇö?.©??> say in
news:O4UjGb9XGHA.3684@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>
> I think my Irony Meter is broken.....It's reading 0....
>

mock not the Ruth

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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by shade73

shade73
Fri Apr 14 11:35:31 CDT 2006

OK, so just one more thing and then I'm done. I wasn't trying to start
a war here (even though my previous posts tend to have always been on
the provocative side). I am just used to other types of forums in
which that kind of off-handed question would just never get any
replies, at all, ever :P. I guess that's just the way it is around
here and i'm sure I'll learn to adapt, just seemed a bit over the top,
that's all. My apologies if I offended anyone.


Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by CBIC

CBIC
Fri Apr 14 11:51:00 CDT 2006

In news:1145032531.940908.286670@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,
shade73 <tkelly73@gmail.com> simply stated:
> OK, so just one more thing and then I'm done. I wasn't trying to
> start a war here (even though my previous posts tend to have always
> been on the provocative side). I am just used to other types of
> forums in which that kind of off-handed question would just never
> get any replies, at all, ever :P. I guess that's just the way it is
> around here and i'm sure I'll learn to adapt, just seemed a bit over
> the top, that's all. My apologies if I offended anyone.

Not a problem. Everyone around here likes a good debate. You'll find that
most of us reply to what we think are mundane questions in a way we cannot
reply in our offices.
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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by SiŠkus

Si©kus
Fri Apr 14 11:55:30 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, shade73 spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> OK, so just one more thing and then I'm done. I wasn't trying to
> start a war here (even though my previous posts tend to have always
> been on the provocative side). I am just used to other types of
> forums in which that kind of off-handed question would just never
> get any replies, at all, ever :P. I guess that's just the way it is
> around here and i'm sure I'll learn to adapt, just seemed a bit over
> the top, that's all. My apologies if I offended anyone.
>
Dude....as often as we may seem like we are offended, we *never* (or very
rarely) are...we just like to offend.

--
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-- Joke 'em if they can't take a fsuk!!!



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by Neil

Neil
Fri Apr 14 12:00:56 CDT 2006

did you hear "shade73" <tkelly73@gmail.com> say in
news:1145032531.940908.286670@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> OK, so just one more thing and then I'm done. I wasn't trying to start
> a war here (even though my previous posts tend to have always been on
> the provocative side). I am just used to other types of forums in
> which that kind of off-handed question would just never get any
> replies, at all, ever :P. I guess that's just the way it is around
> here and i'm sure I'll learn to adapt, just seemed a bit over the top,
> that's all. My apologies if I offended anyone.
>

no prob, this is more like a cafe anyway.

--
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- I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer. --Homer
Simpson

Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by JaR

JaR
Fri Apr 14 13:12:08 CDT 2006

"Bigus Si©kus" <Bigus Si©kus@¹¥çÇö?.©??> wrote in news:exivKR#XGHA.508
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> Dude....as often as we may seem like we are offended, we *never* (or very
> rarely) are...we just like to offend.

I find that comment highly offensive.

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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by SiŠkus

Si©kus
Fri Apr 14 13:16:47 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, JaR spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> "Bigus Si©kus" <Bigus Si©kus@¹¥çÇöZ.©Yo> wrote in news:exivKR#XGHA.508
> @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> Dude....as often as we may seem like we are offended, we *never* (or
>> very rarely) are...we just like to offend.
>
> I find that comment highly offensive.
>
Then I did my job...piece out!

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-- You don't sound sick!
-- I'm fsukin my dog...that sound sick enough for ya??



Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by Neil

Neil
Fri Apr 14 13:24:35 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <akabuxderby@gmail.com> say in
news:Xns97A571F298427onlyifabsolutelynece@207.46.248.16:

> "Bigus Si©kus" <Bigus Si©kus@¹¥çÇö?.©??> wrote in news:exivKR#XGHA.508
> @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> Dude....as often as we may seem like we are offended, we *never* (or
>> very rarely) are...we just like to offend.
>
> I find that comment highly offensive.
>

I'm offended by your offensiveness

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Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by PieterPessemier

PieterPessemier
Wed May 24 17:11:03 CDT 2006

Thanks a lot!
The reason why I didn't understand completely was totally language related.
My native language is Dutch, second language is French, and my third language
is English. And that caused the comprehension problems, like most of you
described.

The reason why I asked this, was because of different answers I found
everywhere.
Some people said 6 exams are needed, other say 7 exams,... So that's why I
wanted a little bit confirmation on this.

No need to get rude on me because of that, I think. And don't describe me as
a newbie, since I am an IT Manager and am currently promovating to European
IT Manager. So please stop the childish behaviour...

As for Andy Ruth:
I would like to thank you for the answer you provided. It helped a lot to
clear some things up. Currently learning the 70-298 book, and next month will
be doing my exam for this.
And when we would ever meet eachother, we will go grab a beer on my costs!

Have a nice evening.
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Regards,

Pieter


"Andy Ruth [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Pieter,
> I think explaining why we put the program together in this may help. For our
> certification, there are fundamental things you need to know how to do with
> the core operating system. But, on the job, you will have to make it do
> something, like run an email solution or run a name resolution or IP
> addressing solution.
>
> The certification is broken into the core knowledge about the operating
> system, that is the fundamental stuff you need to know about the system, and
> then some electives, that allow you to "specialize" your knowledge towars a
> certain job role. That may be web services, security, messaging, etc. That
> way, when you go to get a job you can say what version of the operating
> system you are certified in and what additional skills areas you are
> certified in.
>
> For the upgrade exams, we put those together so that people that are
> certified on previous versions of our products can just show they have the
> skills around the new aspects of the new products. For instance, the changes
> with DNS between Windows 2000 and Windows Server 2003 are pretty
> significant, so in the upgrade exams we test on the differences rather than
> the comprehensive knowledge on an area.
>
> For the new person that wants to get certified, an approach many people use
> is to gain knowledge on the core aspects of either the desktop or server,
> and then add to those skills. Most of the training and exams we produced for
> Windows Server 2003 is structured that way.
> Hope this helps. Good luck!
>
> --
> Andy Ruth
> Program Manager for the Microsoft Certified Architect program
> Microsoft Learning
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> "Pieter Pessemier" <PieterPessemier@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:176D6E63-1CDF-44DF-90BB-674959485160@microsoft.com...
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I'm having trouble figuring out what I need to learn to become MCSE
> > certified.
> > I looked at the Microsoft site:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/
> >
> > They're talking about core, elective and upgrade exams.
> >
> > I have no previous certifications, so what parts do I need to study te
> > become an MCSE? Only the Core exams?
> >
> > Core exams containing:
> > Networking system: 70-290,70-291,70-293,70-294
> > Client OS: 70-270 or 70-210
> > Design: 70-298 or 70-297
> >
> > If I'm right, what are the 'elective' exams all about...
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pieter
>
>
>

Re: Not very clear to me! MCSE exams... by BD>

BD>
Wed May 24 17:23:19 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Pieter Pessemier spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
> Thanks a lot!
>
Wow, most of us were beginning to think you forgot about us.

As for me, I was thinking you got hit by a bus or something....glad you're ok!

And as for the rudeness and "childish behaviour"...that is something you'll just
have to get used to around here. It's our way of relieving stress. Don't take it
personal.

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