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    - Paisley locked the thread on her forum. I know this is not good netiquette bringing this from another forum, but as much as was said in the last post, it would be un-American to not respond to this. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "This thread seems to have turned into a boiling pot of lengthy posts made by the MCNGP that have very little bearing on the topic at hand," The topic is "The MCNGP Mafia - It's Time Microsoft Took Them Down." What kind of view do you have to have to think posts from the MCNGP are off topic to the thread? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "do not contribute to learning, and are not productive. These posts appear to be boiling over, and therefore I am going to pour out my final thoughts and turn off the stove. I have been watching the microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse newsgroup for a couple of years, and I have constantly witnessed the abuse that the MCNGP bestows upon innocent people. One night I had enough of their inappropriate behavior and wrote the article in question. What I was not prepared for was the overwhelming response I received from it. Thank you to everyone for your support." As a part of "everyone", you're welcome, but I still disagree with you. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Since that time, this thread came into existence, several members of the MCNGP have chosen to come onto my site and post in the thread. While I respect their right to try to defend themselves," No you don't. You posted a book of a response flaming us and then closed the thread. Do you really think you respect our right to defend ourselves? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "they haven't been doing that." I was. So were others. Does it require 100% compliance to be considered a defense? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Instead they have been questioning the knowledge of my moderators (my moderators are top-notch and I will always stand behind them 100%), and our members (our members are people of caliber who don't deserve to be bashed by the likes of the MCNGP)." God forbid someone be questioned for their knowledge. Don't we have a president that has been questioned on his intelligence for the past three years? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "While they chose to come here to try to defend themselves, their defense has been weak at best," Arguable. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "and they have not been playing by the rules. While the newsgroup has no rules (at least not enforceable ones), this site does. By coming on this site and spouting viscous personal attacks in regards to personal appearance and gender preference the MCNGP has proven they have no respect for anyone or anything." I must have missed those posts. Maybe they were there. I don't know. But they didn't come from me. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "One of their signatures even posts that they are proud to be mean." *GASP* Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Being mean is not something I would brag about nor be proud of - making fun of people is not productive and in fact is an enormous waste of time." There goes Prime Time television. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "While I work hard to maintain the integrity of our site, the MCNGP proves over and over again that they don't even know what the word means." It means you don't sell out your principles to sell a few books on your website. There are far more principles on a public newsgroup where no one has any financial interests than there are on your commercial website. Kudos on your choice of a .net address to mask your profit intentions. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Consultant proved over and over again that he was not a man of his word when he made his final post on the subject several different times on several different occasions." The subject was not always consistent. You even stated that at the beginning of this post. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Even Larry Samuels who started off appearing to be the most respectable of the MCNGP group has taken to slamming moderators on this site, thus destroying his credibility in my eyes." Larry never slammed anyone. Your moderators slammed me for a spelling mistake just like the MCNGP has done to me and he pointed out that your moderators resort to the same tactics as the MCNGP. If you didn't see that, I really don't know what to say to you. It was obvious. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Over the past day or two, I have purposely not posted in the newsgroup to see what would happen. Since that time, they have started two new threads - "OT Paisleskye" and "Paisleyskye Help Or Hinderance". With tons of posts in each, and still more being added to the original thread, I'm getting the impression that members of the MCNGP don't have real jobs." Or just have jobs with a lot of vacation time. We're not all in the US you know, and as educated as you claim, you should know other countries give a ton more time off work than US employers do. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Instead they post in the newsgroup making fun of people all day long. It would appear that they are spending way too much energy on something they deplore so much - my desire to help people and answer questions." That's not what we made fun of. I'd repeat it all again, but you know where it is. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "I'm glad they have time to waste making fun of me, the country I'm from, and what not, but as for me - I have a site to run and people to help. I'm saddened to see that the MCNGP has nothing better to do at this point in time than slam me - but at least while they are beating me down they are leaving people with legitimate questions alone." Wait just a minute. We've been trying to get across the point for days that there are legitimate questions and bogus questions. Are you now agreeing with us, and still continuing to slam us? Unbelievable! Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "While I'm not going to waste another 20 minutes of my time blasting the ignorant," IGNORANT?!?! You might want to read what you were saying earlier about being mean. It's good reading. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "I do have some things I want to say regarding this issue. 1. Regardless of what the MCNGP chooses to believe the MCSE is an entry-level cert." Thanks to commercial sites like yours, thank you very much! Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "While the term engineer would indicate otherwise, as Psuedocyber has pointed out, experience is only a recommendation and not a pre-requisite. These days, most newly certified MCSE's start off with entry-level positions and gain their experience on the job. In my way of thinking, there is nothing better than hands-on on-the-job training to get some experience under your belt." There is to the employer: a qualified an employee. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "There is absolutely nothing wrong with that" Ask the employer if that's true. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "- if there were, then entry-level positions would not exist for MCSE's and every certified individual would immediately gain employment as a network administrator. " That is faulty logic. Entry level positions can demand an MCSE because there are so many MCSE's. That doesn't make the job an entry level position FOR the MCSEs. It means the market is saturated, which is also why not all MCSEs are employed. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "2. Serious discussion does die fast once a member of the MCNGP enters the conversation. While they have tried to deny this fact, I have seen to many threads in the newsgroup where serious discussion went out the window o ce one of these guys made the first sarcastic remark." Did you miss the one today about the Patriot Act. That was pretty serious. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "The MCNGP continues to be petty about questions people ask" Completely depends on the question asked. Don't deny the fact that there is a ton of troll bait posted on USENET. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "- but then they cannot even begin to keep a serious conversation going without resorting to attacks and inappropriate behavior. They have proven it in the newsgroup, and they've proven it in this thread on this site." Keep the conversation going?!?!? You are the one that locked the thread?!?!? Unbelieveable! Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "I'm still from the old school, where people matter and their questions are important. I believe that every question, no matter how trivial, deserves an answer. " Naive of troll bait are we? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "We were all new at some point, and we all had mentors to take us under their wing." We don't discourage that. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Now the time is ours to take people under our wings, and to help them to fly." Everyone? Anyone? Remember, we are dealing with people on the Internet. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Even if the answer is as simple as a link to appropriate material on Microsoft's site, that's the answer I give. Never, ever does anybody deserve to be put down for asking a question." Again, remember, we are dealing with people on the Internet. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Contrary to the beliefs of the MCNGP - there is no such thing as a stupid question, " Even if the question is troll bait? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "only stupid answers - and the MCNGP appears to be quite eloquent at the latter." Eloquent?!?!? See you CAN you nice words. I knew you could. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "The MCNGP could learn from something that I am constantly teaching my children: "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"" What will you tell them after they learn to type? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 " - perhaps if you can't answer posters questions nicely, you should refrain from replying in the thread at all. " Perhaps if trolls, braindumpers and bootcampers never existed, neither would the MCNGP. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Another one that I constantly try to drive home for my children is: "Do unto others as you'd like them to do unto you." I strongly believe in helping people, because someday I'm going to be in a position where I need help. " Congratulations. You arrived. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "As per the comment that insinuated my being a trainer was a bad thing - you guys don't even know what your argument is. " It's pretty simple. You are here to earn a profit. We aren't. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "You sit there and complain about people entering the industry, and then you make blast me for being a trainer. This would imply that you feel that it is impossible to learn to become an MCSE " I didn't need a trainer to get certified. Did you Consultant? Frisbee? Ken? Seems to me we know it is possible. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "- and that you have to be naturally born with that talent." Talent IS something you are naturally born with. SKILL is something you learn. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Consultant, Kline, Frisbee - I hate to tell you this but you weren't born with a CAT5 cable in your mouth." But there was probably something there. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Somewhere along the line you were taught something (definitely not manners)." And the teacher was paid. Don't forget that important part. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 " To truly be successful in the IT industry, you have to be in a state of constant learning. If you aren't in a state of constant learning, then you are falling behind and quickly becoming obsolete. " We all know that. And it is exactly why the market you work in is profitable. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "If feel sorry for anybody who thinks he knows it all, as this is the person who has the most to learn." So do I..... who are we talking about? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "Over the years I have worked hard to discourage braindump use. I believe that discouraging people from using braindumps and educating them about the evils of braindumps is far more efficient than making off color remarks in a newsgroup. " Fantastic! What's your motivation. We do it because it is wrong. Do you do it to make a bigger market for books and training? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "I do my best to reach people, and to help them learn and develop knowledge regardless of their skill levels. My motto has always been "educate, educate, educate. " We know that. It's your bread and butter living. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "The motto of this site is "Because IntegrITy matters, and I strongly believe in that. A certification is only as valuable as the hard work you put into it. " And the market's perception of it. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "However, Integrity goes farther than just preaching about the evils of braindumps. Integrity is a part of who you are, and what you stand for. The MCNGP has already proven their lack thereof. " We stand up for what we believe in everyday. You stand up for your commercial site. I wouldn't continue pursuing this integrity argument. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "I refuse to put my integrity, or the integrity of this site on the line by letting this thread, which has gotten twisted and turned upside down, to continue. " If I were you, I wouldn't either. Gotta watch that paycheck. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "I will continue to fight my battles strongly, " Right after you close this thread, right? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "and to stand up for what I believe in." PROFITS! Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 " I believe that everybody deserves a chance, and that everybody is entitled to ask questions, and to receive answers." We love to answer questions as well. Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 " I feel sorry for the technician that doesn't ask questions, because he will never fully understand - and I feel sorry for the bully that refuses to answer questions, as he will never escape his ignorance. " Didn't you call us ignorant earlier? Didn't you close this thread so we couldn't ask questions regarding this post? Do you feel sorry for yourself? Originally posted by paisleyskye on: http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165 "With that being said, its time to turn off the stove, so if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!" With the stove off, why do I have to get out of the kitchen.... ... oh that's right. It was getting too hot for YOU! Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107550
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    - =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22With_that_being_said=2C_its_time_to_turn_off_the_stov?= So are the final words of Paisley Skye, locking the "Mafia" MCNGP thread on her web site, posting a rather lengthy diatribe and then not allowing anyone to reply. Methinks she took her own advice except that she managed to keep others out of her kitchen. Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh? -- Fris "Makes fun of the dyslexic" bee® MCNGP #13 http://www.mcngp.tk The MCNGP Team - We're here to help http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107528
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    - Yes, this guy is for real... Hey all. Thanks for visiting my site and commenting on my certificatio list. Its actually pretty funny that you visited my site and notice that yes, I have a ton of certifications, but thats because I was trainer and MADE sure I was certified in the products I taught on, onl fair right? Why tell a student how they can train to be a Certifie 'whatever' when the trainer is not certified on anything. Damn, I hav seen this thousands of times. Also, if you havent noticed, I spend 50 of my free time writing certification study guides for companies lik Que, etc. Ummmm, I guess it would also make sense for me to have thos certs too, no? Would you buy a book on an exam when the writer neve even took it? Ok peeps, do some intelligent thinking here. Ok next, am actually an executive in a very large company so I manage a larg group of people... all of which I work with to get certified o products we run. I guess if you do the math from what I just said, you would realize work around the clock on this crap so it would probably make sense tha after 7 years of taking exams... I would have accumulated this much Also, I listed out all the certs I got, in no particular order so tha when I consult for jobs, some people know what an MCP or CNA is, bu not a CNE. Hey peeps, think outside the box ok? Also, for the person who was nice enough to call me a loser because havent taken the CCIE (and you are only an MCSA), well damn dude, yo must not really know what that entails (if you were actually serious) I have purchased and built a home lab for the Cisco Security CCIE an have been working on it now 3 months. I have 9 friends who know 130 more about Cisco than I do and all have failed the lab at least once some twice, 2 passed, all the rest keep trying. The exam just change formats (AGAIN) and a ton of new crap was added, so more equipmen needs to be purchased. This is why it takes sometimes up to 4 years t get your CCIE, I have 3.5 more to go so dont rush me there tough guy. :) Ro MasterPyrexi Sign up for free daily practice questions at: http://www.QoD.U ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via http://www.examnotes.ne ----------------------------------------------------------------------- View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1032179.htm Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107511
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    - MCSE with windows 2000 when dead? Hello. My name is Guillermo Martin and I From Argentina. I will study the MCSE with windows 2000. but I like to know when this career have been selected for discontinuation. In this page http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcpexams/status/examstoretire.asp I see some exams that will no longer be offered. Can you tell me when the exams for mcse with windows 2000 are deactivated? Thank You. Guillermo Martin Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107510
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    - Recommended Study Guides for actually learning meaterial and taking the exames I'm trying to spend my money wisely and get a consenses on the most helpful study guides out there. Neither do I want to be the "paper mcse" but learn and keep what I learn. Does anyone prefer one set of kits to another? Microsoft, exam cram, etc...? I have 7 years in a client/server support environment and looking to strengthen my skills obtained from experience. I would like to pursue the Windows 2003 Server Security + route. Thanks. Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107508
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    - SBS 2003 - Exam 70-282 Has anyone had any experience with the official version of this exam? I saw from Microsoft that it was available as of mid-December, but I haven't seen any reviews or study guide information about it. Has anyone taken this or preparing to take it? Any ideas on when there will be books or study guides available for it? Thanks, Matt Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107482
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    - How much study time for MCSE Hi all, have just ordered the self paced books for the core elements of the 2003 Server MCSE and wondered how much study time you would recommend before sitting the first exam. I have no experience of 2003 Server but am fairly competent in a pure Windows 2000 Server/Client environment, albeit in a small business scenario. Also have about 4 years experience dealing with end user situations using all OS's from 95 up to XP pro. I have already received the 180 day trial versions and have a machine ready for practical experience. Any help greatly appreciated - but please no comments such as the one on Amazon.com - 'I read the 4000 pages on a Friday afternoon and passed the exams that evening'. Cheers, Gary. Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107480
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    - exam hello abat mcse exam in dubay Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107463
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    - Hello Frisbee!!!! Hey Fris! I know you do not advocate changing my name, but many did not like the name 'guru'.... Neophyte is more appropriate...don't you think??? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107432
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    - Have anybody tried realexamquestions.com?? If anyone has the experience of this site then pls give your commen here cobo Sign up for free daily practice questions at: http://www.QoD.U ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via http://www.examnotes.ne ----------------------------------------------------------------------- View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1032091.htm Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107409
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    - I would like to know about MCSE exams Its my long time Ambition that i want became a MCSE professional so i joined Aptech Computer centre in banglore in 1997 so they couldn't teach the real fact and the benifits of MCSE i really spoiled my 2yrs with Aptech that time Microst WIN NT 4 is popular now u pepole upgrade everything. So am planing to take that MCSE exams and i need ur full support both physical and mental and i beleive like u people can help me right now. And am waiting ur kind reply abt it Your Faithfully Mohammed Ashique A.K Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107383
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    - Value of MCSE without a degree? What is the value, if any, of having an MCSE without having a degree in some form or shape? Are there job applications that you can apply an MCSE to without having a degree in some computer or otherwise field? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107381
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    - Domain Local vs Global Groups Can someone explain this confusion for me? I created a global group today to assign permissions to a resource in a different domain but it wouldn;t work, I had to use a Domain Local group for that. Global to me means a far reaching group with more "coverage" than a Domain Local (local to the domain) so I assumed that to permission objects outside a domain to use Globals. Any ideas why the naming sounds arse about face? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107328
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    - MCSE or Bust I need some serious advise here since I've been following this newsgroup for about 8 months. My goal is NOT to become a paper MCSE, rather to really learn the material and apply it towards certs and hopefully to real life situations. As a administrator of a member server, I do not have domain admin priveleges, which leaves me with some good experience with basic permissions and network concepts. Wish I had access to the domains DC, but I'm not a domain admin or have those rights. For a year now, I've completed the class work and labs for 270, 215, 216, 217, 220, 218 towards a MCSE at a respectable IT college which has given me good/basic foundational knowledge to sit the certs. I have just completely the 216 and 220 classes last month which leaves me with exchange to take this month. My goal has always been to learn so I could apply the material and that is why I have put off the cert scene in hopes I would understand this newly acquired knowledge so I could better apply it to real life rather than memorizing tests, i.e. testkings! Since the 216 and 220 classes, I feel very comfortable and ready to tackle the certs. My question to all of you pro's is which one to start with. I've completed the 216 and 220 a few weeks ago and have been preping for the 216, but my close MCSE friend says to not sit the 216 for your first MCSE exam. I have Cram Master, Boson, Cert Times, Transcenders test simulators along with all the study guides and a library of CBT's, and the Microsoft library. All of these resources are invaluable which give me different perspectives and scenarios to apply and learn from. Where do I go from here...which exam first??? Thanks guys for your patience KWP Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107262
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    - Paisleyskye, helpful or hinderance Paisleyskye, self proclaimed Saint of the paper MCSE, so quick to throw judgment and attempt to pummel the fine guardians of this newsgroup. You like to blow your own horn about how helpful you are, but I have not seen one helpful post from you. The only posts you have made are to people who have passed a test and you have replied "congrats". You truly are a hypocrite. -- Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1 www.mcngp.tk Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107254
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    - MCSE 2003 exams and crammsession Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107223
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    - MCSE 2003 reading and sites Does any one know where to find good exam cram notes for windows 2003 and exams or even sites. theres loads for 2000 but none for 2003. Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107222
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    - New exams with latest updates ..allit.certkiller.com is great New exams with latest updates ..allit.certkiller.com is great All the material found here is same as it comes in the exam.Passin rate is 100%. Recommendable site for Certification exams.Thanks again for the whol support liyaqat_na Sign up for free daily practice questions at: http://www.QoD.U ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via http://www.examnotes.ne ----------------------------------------------------------------------- View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1032058.htm Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107211
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    - How to load balance ADSL with Windows 2000 Server ? Dear Sirs, My company leased 02 ADSL lines from 01 ISP. Anyone knows how to use concurrently them to access Internet for load balancing. We have 01 Windows 2000 Server computer with MS ISA server installed. Thank in advance. Peter Walkfield Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107207
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    - 70-229 exam exchange of material I have following materials: Transcender SQL Server 2000 Exam 70-229 CD MCAD/MCSE/MCDBA Self-Paced Training Kit: Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Database Design and Implementation, Exam 70-229, Second Edition with CD Microsoft Corp. / Microsoft Press Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Database Design and Implementaton Readiness Review with CD. MCDBA SQL Server 2000 Database Design Study Guide (Exam 70-229) by Syngress Media Inc. I am looking to trade in material for Exam 70?228, Exam 70?215, 70-305. Please send me email at shuangzhang2001@yahoo.com If anyone is interested in these materials and willing to exchange. Thanks Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107196
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    - Sybex "Exam Notes" Series Books I'm enrolled in an instructor-led class for my MCSE in Windows 2000 and need advice on supplemental material. The books and CD's provided in the class are not fully providing me with enough specific knowledge. I have many years of work experience and understand LAN's well, but I'm not an expert in any OS. I've reviewed the O'Reilly "MCSE in a Nutshell" and it is somewhat helpful, but is missing critical key information. Therefore, I ordered the Sybex "Exam Notes" series of books for W2K Pro and Server, due to be delivered soon. Has anyone reviewed these books, and what is your opinion of this as a supplemental study guide? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107190
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    - Help with educational route Hey everyone, I would greatly appreciate it if someone would help me with my problem. Right now I'm a Junior in high school, and planning on taking a MCSE course at my local vocational center my senior year. I've been working with Microsoft programs since I was 6, so I'm pretty sure this is what I want to do. =-) Anyways, my problem is that I don't have a clear understanding of what I have to do in order to become MC as a Systems Administrator. After high school I'll be attending a community college to further this, but I've asked numerous certified people, and I never get a straight answer - do I need to transfer to a 4+ year college to become an administrator or what? Again I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone of y'all would answer this, additional information is also welcome. Thank you! Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107187
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    - Watch new updates at testking.co.uk Watch new updates at testking.co.u cobo Sign up for free daily practice questions at: http://www.QoD.U ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted via http://www.examnotes.ne ----------------------------------------------------------------------- View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1032004.htm Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107182
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    - Exam 70-220 prep (Question) Hello all, I am looking at finishing the MCSE this year, I am two exams away, my next test would be 70-220, has anyone taken it recently, and how did you prepared for. TIA, Jose MCSA, A+ Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107171
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    - Adaptive formats? What ever became of the adaptive exam format? Whilst reading New Riders / QUE guides they made a big thing that Microsoft were moving to adaptive testing however all exams I have done in the past 2 years have been the standard 60 questions in 3 hours jobs. Are there any Microsoft exams using adaptive testing and are there plans to make it more widely available? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107169
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    - REgarding the MCSE HI., I would like to do MCSE Course.In future is there any value for this course or not.Should i g for MCSE or MCSA.Basically i am interested in Syatems Side.Could you pls kindly help me out. Thanks and REgards., R.Sankar Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107167
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    - CBT? Thanks Rowdy, Another question if I may. Is CBTNuggets a good way to go, do you get everything you need to complete the course? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107166
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    - OT: Paisleyskye Paisleyskye, First of all I am not here to enter into the "Flame War, I am a simple systems analyst contractor that finds all this rather amusing. Paisleyskye, I think you need to, as the Americans say, "Chill Out". The messages posted here which seem to be causing you so much concern are no more than background noise, the content of which you will find within the average office environment even in the [overly] "politically correct" UK. While I do not care to participate to such message posting, I do however read the harmless chitchat amongst the members of this group, much of which makes me laugh. Granted much of which is off topic, but those people are not criminals. In many of your messages I have read today, you mention how people are "TORTURED", well I see little in this group to backup such remarks. The only "people" who are "TORTURED" are the spammers, trolls and brain dump pioneers which together only serve to undermine the status of an MCSE. I personally do not indulge in "TORTURING" those type worthless people, however the people who do so have my full backing, it's a shame Microsoft does not do more to stop the troll's, spammer's etc, etc from ruining the certification experience for the rest of us. I took the trouble to have a look at the article posted on the ICertify.net site, I remember many of the messages you mention, all of which are of a humorous nature. As such, anyone who sees those posts as anything more than people laughing and joking around should seek help before they top themselves, they certainly would not last five minutes in some of the offices/departments I've worked in. The only post I saw which could be deemed as offensive was the one which questioned your sexuality; rather uncalled for, but I understand the message poster has apologised to you, which to me, shows a level of maturity you will not find within a spammer, troll or brain dump pioneer. I also notice that several of the MCNGP "members" have posted replies on at least one of the forums maintained by you. Half expecting this "Flame War" to decent in to your own area, I was pleasantly surprised by the constructiveness and good nature of the replies posted by those "thugs" as you would have them known as. One final point I will bring to your attention; you make reference to "newbies" who are also abused. Well as far as I am aware the mcse certification is not targeted at "newbies". There are already too many paper mcse's in existence who achieve the title without out having any worthwhile "real world" experience. In any case I don't see "newbies" getting abused in the newsgroup, I do however see many idiotic messages many of which are repeated over and over again, by people who clearly do not have the ability and experience to legitimately become an mcse. Again this is a problem Microsoft has not addressed, so the problem continues despite companies saying "Please, no more paper MCSE's". In one of you messages you mention that people have to start somewhere, well I completely agree, however the MCSE certification is not the starting point. An MCSE needs to have more than the ability to simply download and memorise answers to the multitude of "practice tests" out there, the practice of which only helps to undermine the value of the MCSE title. Name and email withheld because I don't want to be flamed by you or anyone else; as I'm not a "member" of the MCNGP I guess the Flaming could come from both directions. Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107157
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    - Flatulating in test center When sitting for exam, and under tight time constraints, do you gamble and let one rip and blame it on testtaker next to you or do you raise hand and request permission to go to latrine and still may not be able to rip if it is crowded. Or do you eschew eating beans prior to test taking? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107152
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    - CBT Nuggets for Sale! I'm finished with these CBT Nuggets and am going to sell them. Contact me if you're interested: 070-218 070-215 070-210 070-216 070-210 070-215 070-217 070-219 070-220 070-221 Thanks, Carolina carolina@ka.net Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107126
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    - 怎么报名考试 = 您好，我想自己自学&= #20197;后，再参加MCSE考试&#6529= 2;但是不知道怎么报&#21517= ;考试。我的 地址是中国河北省保&= #23450;市， 邮件 ：beijixingmu@163.com Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107095
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    - 70-216 Practice Exams... Is there anywhere on the net that has free practise exams for this test? or any other resource that might have some goos information on this exam. I'm starting to think I am a bit under prepared because my exam is in a few days and I have olny gone through a book, CBT Nuggets and built a test environment. I still feel that there is more that I need to know. Cheeeers Braddo Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107086
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    - MCSE exam Hello, I am very interested in doing the MCSE course, could anyone give me some advice on which would be the best one to do as there seems to be so many differnet ones... Thanks Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107083
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    - Opinions on Cramsession MCSE study guides ? Hi all, My, things have certainly changed since the old NT4 MCSE days when the cramsession study guides were free :) I used them as a last minute recap on the way to the test centre. I'm not averse to paying the $7.50 fee per study guide provided the W2K versions are as good as the old NT4 ones. I would appreciate feedback from anyone who has tried them. Were they worth the money? Are there are any free (legitimate) alternatives to the cramsession study guides? Best Wishes -- Peter <X-Files Fan> Please Note: Emailed replies cc'd / bcc'd , containing HTML or attachments auto-binned as spam Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107080
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    - www.redmondexams.com vs. real microsoft exams Anyone know how comparable the two are? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107050
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    - mcse training I am looking at several different companies that offer MCSE training over the web as well as books and CD's. Does anyone out there have a minute and let me know their experiences with self study methods? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107049
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    - 70-290 Hi I am going to take a 70-290 on next month, so far I only got exam cram 70-290 to study, from my previous exams, I know it's not enough, so would anyone knows some website that provide free test questions? please let me know, I would really appreciate thanks in advance wei Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107043
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    - 70-290 Free Practice Exams Does anyone know of some good sites that have some practice exams or questions. I already have signed up for a few Question of the Day email things, and I have and Exam Cram book that came with 2 exams and one PrepLogic email on CD. I'd like to use the Trancender exams, but they are a little pricy. Any ideas? Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107014
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    - How To Make Enough Money To Pay Off Your Bills HOW TO MAKE EXTREMELY EASY MONEY WITH $6.00!!!!! READING THIS COUL CHANGE YOUR LIFE! I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. A little whil back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now, an came across an article similar to this that said you could mak thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment o $6.00! So I thought, Yeah right, this must be a scam, but like most o us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you sen $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. Yo then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6 and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a fe people first, I thought about trying it. I figured: what have I got t lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right? Then I invested the measl $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!!... within 7 days, I started getting money i the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the mone just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the en of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the thir week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now m fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it' still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps, have spent more than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how thi works and most importantly, why it works.... Also, make sure you prin a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it a you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly that you will start making more money than you thought possible b doing something so easy! Suggestion: Read this entire messag carefully! (Print it out or download it.) Follow the simple direction and watch the money come in! It's easy. It's legal. And, you investment is only $6.00 (Plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is not rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually n risk - it really works!!!! If all of the following instructions ar adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends. PLEASE NOTE Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can b yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of th honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its succes by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part o the Mail Order business. In this business your product is not solid an tangible it's a service. You are in the business of developing Mailin Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for qualit lists. However, the money made from the mailing lists is secondary t the income, which is made from people like you and me asking to b included in that list. Here are the 4 easy steps to success: STEP 1 Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece o paper; PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST. Now get 6 US $1.00 bills an place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not b seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Next, place one pape in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 seale envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, you name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimat service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a littl skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and the confirmed that it is indeed legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to th following addresses: Mailing Addresses 1) Justin Stanton 310 Porter st. Beaverton, MI 48612 2) Mario King P.O. Box 2276 Stuart, Florida 34995 3) Tyler Warford 107 West 4th Pattonsburg, Missouri 64670 4) Ian Eckerstien 622 Scottsbluff Dr. Claremont, Califorina 91711 5) Jennifer Grabill 8150 Fisher St Warren, MI 48089 6)Justina Braun 3-561 Warsaw Ave Winnipeg, MB R3L 0R5 Canada STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need money, you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you're in business! --- DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) you do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's memory. Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you'll always have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "e;what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet. Remember: play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work. doublej1012 Sign up for free daily practice questions at: http://www.QoD.US ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Posted via http://www.examnotes.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1031873.html Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 107013
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    - just started Braindumps and cheat sheets?? Oh ya - that's the way to obtain certs - especially with 290 & 291 then when you are sat down in that environment you'll know squat. There is no real "quick way" to get certifications. Study like the rest of us. It is the people that use these items that make a bad name for the rest of us out there busting our ass off to study and pass these things legitimately. Get the text books and study - earn your MCSE the legit way. Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106988
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    - just started have been working with Microsoft's op for about 10 years=20 now but never needed cert but thinking of changing=20 companies so just started mcse and want to get it finished=20 as quickly as possible can anyone suggest some=20 good "brainbumps" or ch. sheets that might be worth=20 looking at. have two exams booked next week 70-290/291 i=20 think ill breeze them but want 2 make sure and not waste =A3=20 Thanks for your help Bob D. Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106987
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    - Trust problem Following the guides in my MS Press book (Upgrading your Certification to Windows 2003) on creating a cross forest trust with Windows 2003. I have raised the domain level and forest levels to Windows Server 2003, rebooted yet when I try to create any kind of trust i get an error message: The operation failed. The error is: This operation cannot be performed on the current domain. I have tried domain, forest, one way in/ou, and am at a loss. Both servers are on the same subnet, same ip range, i can ping DNS and IP. Only one account on each server, it has full admin rights to everything. Nothing shows up in event viewer and the rather generic error message is of no help. Any suggestion? Thanks Happy New Year! Rod Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106977
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    - backup exe question Does anyone know if backup from 2003 Server will run on Win 2000? And what files are needed besides the exe? thanks! BTW, Microsoft came up with a snappy name for something: "Sector Inspector (SecInspect.exe) SecInspect.exe is a command-line diagnostics tool that allows administrators to view the contents of master boot records, boot sectors, and IA64 GUID partition tables. Additional features include creating hex dumps of binary files and backup/restore of sector ranges. Quick Overview Sector Inspector is a flexible diagnostics tool for safely collecting disk and file system-related data for offline analysis. Sector Inspector has additional features that allow backup and restore of sector ranges for use with other disk editing tools. Because low-level disk access is performed, administrator privileges are required to use most features of Sector Inspector." Some guy who wrote a DOS prog called that 10 yrs ago will probably sue for eight million :) HAPPY NEW YEAR!! Mike Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106975
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    - How to setup a Win2K Server on a network Hey everybody. I'm trying to setup a small lab in the house. I'm trying to setup my main server. I'm running W2kPro and W2Kserv. The clients are already up and running. How do I get the server active and setup to accomadate the clients. thanx Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106963
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    - Dfs Replication Policy I am trying to configure the replication policy on my Dfs setup but the selection is greyed out. I checked to insure that the file replication service is running- it is. I have also checked to make sure that there is another computer in the domain to replicate to- there is. The Dfs root is on a DC. I have posted this question to other MS groups and searched the knowledge base with no result Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106958
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    - Happy New Year Happy New Year everyone!!!! BSoD Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106954
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    - OT: War declared on MCNGP http://www.icertify.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=53&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 or http://tinyurl.com/3dxxw Never mentioned my name once! No fair. JaR MCNGP Thug #................................42 Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106952
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    - OT: My GF Won't Let Me Why do some girls not like oral? I'm beginning to think she won't let me cuz she has a "scent". :( Signed, Worries Serious MCSE, MCSA, MCP+i Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106876
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    - OT Wednesday Fun! You gotta love yahoo! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/031231/ids_photos_en/r1799846580.jpg&e=9&ncid=1756 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1756&e=2&u=/031229/ids_photos_wl/r578229611.jpg -- Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father www.mcngp.tk Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106875
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    - Hardest 2003 Test? Ok Gang, I'm a glutten for punishment..... I'm finishing up a couple of other cert tracks and looking at the MCSE (2003) just for the heck of it. Shoot, by the time I finish the other 2 tracts, I'll have something like 2 or 3 of the 6 reqs done. So, What I thought I'd do is to do the final series backwards as a way to wind down my certification tracks... In doing so, I'd like to start with the remaining hardest test and work my way back to the easiest. I don't know why, just seems like an interesting way of doing it. So, Of the following, what's the hardest one remaining? 70-290 70-291 (Already Complete as an elective via different track) 70-293 70-294 70-270 70-297 Elective Exams I don't need. 70-228 (Complete) 70-229 (Complete, actually, first exam I ever took) Actualy, I've got 2 of them but only need 1 of them. Feel free to rank those above, I only listed the ones I feel like taking, not necessarily all choices available. (like for client OS and Design) Thanks for any input. Nick Tag: A tale of two policies? Tag: 106868

What exactly is the difference between the policy "Account
lockout duration" and "Reset account lockout counter
after". It seems from my reading that they do EXACTLY the
same thing, i.e. unlock an account after X minutes.

Thanks,
Adam

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Re: A tale of two policies? by Eric

Eric
Tue Jan 06 22:18:14 CST 2004

"Account lockout duration" is the amount of time a user is locked after they
enter the specified number of wrong passwords.

"Reset account lockout counter after" works like this: You have set the
threshold to five attempts, your "reset account lockout counter after" value
is set to ten minutes. Joe user enters four bad passwords within 60
seconds, then enters his correct password. He if logs out after two more
minutes and enters another bad password he will be locked out. But if he
waits for more then ten minutes he can enter up to four bad passwords again.

Eric

"Adam Leinss" <aleinss@toughguy.net> wrote in message
news:057e01c3d4cf$057a0f30$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> What exactly is the difference between the policy "Account
> lockout duration" and "Reset account lockout counter
> after". It seems from my reading that they do EXACTLY the
> same thing, i.e. unlock an account after X minutes.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam

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A tale of two policies? by michael_derton

michael_derton
Wed Jan 07 11:52:27 CST 2004

"Reset account lockout counter
>after" If counter set to 15 minutes and Lockout set to 3
trys, Suzie can try logon twice - wait 15 minutes and try
twice again. Wait 15 minutes and try twice again. 6 trys
in 45 minutes. If she trys 3 times she is locked out.
"Account
>lockout duration" account kicks in.

>-----Original Message-----
>What exactly is the difference between the
policy "Account
>lockout duration" and "Reset account lockout counter
>after". It seems from my reading that they do EXACTLY
the
>same thing, i.e. unlock an account after X minutes.
>
>Thanks,
>Adam
>.
>

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