how to ask a question...

Fantastic,

This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and plonkers.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

--
m0rk

honesty pays... but not enough for some

Dave
Mon Sep 05 11:32:22 CDT 2005

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:B6584264-2042-4F6C-B98B-4AD0EDB38726@microsoft.com...
> Fantastic,
>
> This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and plonkers.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

Ah, another potential rocket scientist looking to join ...

Kline
Mon Sep 05 12:16:26 CDT 2005

>> Fantastic,
>>
>> This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and plonkers.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>Ah, another potential rocket scientist looking to join ...

He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Dave
Mon Sep 05 13:21:04 CDT 2005

"Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
news:n7voh1ltcff5bekd4e9ebegjm8ehinvukl@4ax.com...
>>> Fantastic,
>>>
>>> This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and plonkers.
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>Ah, another potential rocket scientist looking to join ...
>
> He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.
And when was the last time I *asked* an MCSE related question on this ng?
When was the last time I asked even a technically related question here?

lowdes
Mon Sep 05 13:47:24 CDT 2005

You wouldn't even want to try to ask a question in this NG, due to all the
assholes that call themselves MCNGP


"Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:%23Fp5OaksFHA.3908@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
> news:n7voh1ltcff5bekd4e9ebegjm8ehinvukl@4ax.com...
>>>> Fantastic,
>>>>
>>>> This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and
>>>> plonkers.
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>>
>>>Ah, another potential rocket scientist looking to join ...
>>
>> He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.
> And when was the last time I *asked* an MCSE related question on this ng?
> When was the last time I asked even a technically related question here?
>
>

Kline
Mon Sep 05 14:04:39 CDT 2005

>>>> Fantastic,
>>>>
>>>> This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and plonkers.
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>>
>>>Ah, another potential rocket scientist looking to join ...
>>
>> He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.
>And when was the last time I *asked* an MCSE related question on this ng?
>When was the last time I asked even a technically related question here?

true, sorry......

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Kurt
Mon Sep 05 15:18:54 CDT 2005

I'm not going there again!

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:B6584264-2042-4F6C-B98B-4AD0EDB38726@microsoft.com...
> Fantastic,
>
> This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and plonkers.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
> --
> m0rk
>
> honesty pays... but not enough for some

Dave
Mon Sep 05 15:18:08 CDT 2005

"Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
news:ol5ph1ltrvqmlfmb8247fa20us6cl2vtu9@4ax.com...
>>>>> Fantastic,
>>>>>
>>>>> This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and
>>>>> plonkers.
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>>>
>>>>Ah, another potential rocket scientist looking to join ...
>>>
>>> He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.
>>And when was the last time I *asked* an MCSE related question on this ng?
>>When was the last time I asked even a technically related question here?
>
> true, sorry......
ok, thankyou, np.

Briscobar
Mon Sep 05 17:54:14 CDT 2005

Dave <Dave@privacy.net> rambled:
> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
> news:n7voh1ltcff5bekd4e9ebegjm8ehinvukl@4ax.com...
>>
>> He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.
> And when was the last time I *asked* an MCSE related question on this
> ng? When was the last time I asked even a technically related
> question here?

More importantly, when was the last time you *answered* one here?

--
KB

MCNGP #26

Dave
Tue Sep 06 04:46:02 CDT 2005

"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%23Ve06ymsFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Dave <Dave@privacy.net> rambled:
>> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
>> news:n7voh1ltcff5bekd4e9ebegjm8ehinvukl@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.
>> And when was the last time I *asked* an MCSE related question on this
>> ng? When was the last time I asked even a technically related
>> question here?
>
> More importantly, when was the last time you *answered* one here?
I agree it has been some time. I'm sure it's been several months since I've
seen a technical question that needed answering as the majority revolve
around "I passed, had a few about something called DNS, I failed as there
were lots about something called DNS which I didn't think I had to know..."
or "How many questions are there on the exam?" [incert standard reply here].
I think a lot of posters have been put off asking technical (interesting)
questions here due to the IQ-0's replying with "google is your friend". A
synical view is that the majority of the google shareholders wouldn't know
how to answer such a question anyway, hence their answer. Ok, they might
know that the answer is "A" but as to why, well, only people who really know
there stuff know things like that and even less actually have the ability to
explain it to others.

Kline
Tue Sep 06 06:01:30 CDT 2005

oh dear.....

If people don't have the common sense and initiative to research the
answer themselves before 'giving up' and asking for the answers, well
quite frankly those people have no hope of pursuing a career in IT.

Make no mistake about it, these questions are easy for 'professional'
people who actually work with the product. I fail to see how such
'professionals' could fail to understand such fundamental concepts and
technologies such as DNS. Really, such people should go back to
college and learn the basic's before expecting to be taken seriously
in the 'real world'.

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:46:02 +0100, "Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> wrote:

>>>> He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.
>>> And when was the last time I *asked* an MCSE related question on this
>>> ng? When was the last time I asked even a technically related
>>> question here?
>>
>> More importantly, when was the last time you *answered* one here?
>I agree it has been some time. I'm sure it's been several months since I've
>seen a technical question that needed answering as the majority revolve
>around "I passed, had a few about something called DNS, I failed as there
>were lots about something called DNS which I didn't think I had to know..."
>or "How many questions are there on the exam?" [incert standard reply here].
>I think a lot of posters have been put off asking technical (interesting)
>questions here due to the IQ-0's replying with "google is your friend". A
>synical view is that the majority of the google shareholders wouldn't know
>how to answer such a question anyway, hence their answer. Ok, they might
>know that the answer is "A" but as to why, well, only people who really know
>there stuff know things like that and even less actually have the ability to
>explain it to others.
>
>
>


Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

JaR
Tue Sep 06 10:42:47 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:

> I think a lot of posters have been put off asking technical
> (interesting) questions here due to the IQ-0's replying with "google
> is your friend".

Right. People have been put off asking technical questions, but don't have
the slightest hesitation about asking for the latest dumps, or how to get
their lapel pin, ice scraper and certificate after passing their final
exam.

Interesting premise, but seemingly not supported by the facts.

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

Dave
Tue Sep 06 12:39:27 CDT 2005

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96C958A30A18Misanthrope@207.46.248.16...
> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:
>
>> I think a lot of posters have been put off asking technical
>> (interesting) questions here due to the IQ-0's replying with "google
>> is your friend".
>
> Right. People have been put off asking technical questions, but don't have
> the slightest hesitation about asking for the latest dumps, or how to get
> their lapel pin, ice scraper and certificate after passing their final
> exam.
That assumes that they are the *same* people and I think that's the wrong
assumption to make. I think those who at one time did ask techie q's
wouldn't consider it now as there are far more amiable areas such as http
based forums. Those asking for dumps clearly don't fall into the same
category as the techie-q-askers.

> Interesting premise, but seemingly not supported by the facts.
I doubt there are any real quantifiable facts here, just observations taken
over a period of time with random invervals in between samples.

Kline
Tue Sep 06 12:59:34 CDT 2005

> I think those who at one time did ask techie q's
>wouldn't consider it now as there are far more amiable areas such as http
>based forums.

.. and *still* there are stupid people in IT, it really does amaze me.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

JaR
Tue Sep 06 13:00:45 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:

> That assumes that they are the *same* people and I think that's the
> wrong assumption to make.

I have read and re-read that statement, and the sense of it escapes me.

> I think those who at one time did ask
> techie q's wouldn't consider it now as there are far more amiable
> areas such as http based forums.

Cite? Are you aware of some pool of "techie q" askers that are somehow
discrete from the general population that finds it's way here? You are
aware, are you not, that most, if not all, of the "IQ-0's" you refer to
in here are in fact techies themselves, and share questions and
information in this newsgroup, among other places, regularly. I have been
hanging around in this newsgroup for several years, Dave, and have seen
no exodus of "techie q" askers over that time. Quite the contrary, in
fact. Folks with genuine questions and concerns have found this a
pleasant place to be, and tend to stay. Many have even eventually earned
their MCNGP!

> Those asking for dumps clearly don't
> fall into the same category as the techie-q-askers.
>
>> Interesting premise, but seemingly not supported by the facts.
> I doubt there are any real quantifiable facts here, just observations
> taken over a period of time with random invervals in between samples.
>

Your observations appear to be invalidated by the evidence.

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

Dave
Tue Sep 06 15:21:57 CDT 2005

"Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
news:h6mrh1l64stfg30ar73fe60a05b9phrp4a@4ax.com...
>> I think those who at one time did ask techie q's
>>wouldn't consider it now as there are far more amiable areas such as http
>>based forums.
>
> .. and *still* there are stupid people in IT, it really does amaze me.
What, that people ask questions or they use web based forums - which is it?

Patrick
Tue Sep 06 16:00:02 CDT 2005

JaR wrote:
> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:

>
> Cite? Are you aware of some pool of "techie q" askers that are somehow
> discrete from the general population that finds it's way here? You are
> aware, are you not, that most, if not all, of the "IQ-0's" you refer to
> in here are in fact techies themselves, and share questions and
> information in this newsgroup, among other places, regularly. I have been
> hanging around in this newsgroup for several years, Dave, and have seen
> no exodus of "techie q" askers over that time. Quite the contrary, in
> fact. Folks with genuine questions and concerns have found this a
> pleasant place to be, and tend to stay. Many have even eventually earned
> their MCNGP!
>

I have to agree with you here. I'm a techie, although I haven't asked
any 'techie' questions. I'm no where near (in my mind) ready to take
any of the exams, and as I get closer I'm sure I'll ask questions. I
know full well, that some of the questions I'll ask are stupid (or at
the very least, easy for a lot of you) but I'll ask them anyhow.
Because someone will give me an answer, or at least point me in the
right direction.

And, I definitely won't ask where any 'dumps' are. I lived about three
blocks from one for years, and didn't like the smell then.. So, I don't
want to smell it now..;) And, I've browsed some of the http: forums
that you mention Dave. Guess what I've found.. I've found a LOT of the
same people here answering the questions there also. So, I guess it
won't matter WHERE they go to ask their question. These people will
probably be the ones to answer them.

--
Patrick Dickey <pd1ckey43@removethis.msn.com>
http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com
Smile.. someone out there cares deeply for you.

JaR
Tue Sep 06 16:07:22 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:

>> .. and *still* there are stupid people in IT, it really does amaze
>> me.
> What, that people ask questions or they use web based forums - which
> is it?
>

Oh, brother. Where's that clue-by-four?

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

Kline
Tue Sep 06 16:14:15 CDT 2005

>What, that people ask dumb questions in web based forums?
ifypfy

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Kline
Tue Sep 06 16:19:56 CDT 2005

>>> .. and *still* there are stupid people in IT, it really does amaze
>>> me.
>> What, that people ask questions or they use web based forums - which
>> is it?
>>
>
>Oh, brother. Where's that clue-by-four?

As in LART right?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

JaR
Tue Sep 06 16:28:32 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Kline Sphere spewed across the ether:

>>> What, that people ask questions or they use web based forums - which
>>> is it?
>>>
>>
>>Oh, brother. Where's that clue-by-four?
>
> As in LART right?

It wouldn't know a clue if it was surrounded by horny wild clues while
nailed face-down to a full clue-barrel with it's trousers around it's
ankles and drenched in clue-musk during clue mating season.

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

Dave
Wed Sep 07 09:39:53 CDT 2005

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96C970073C24AMisanthrope@207.46.248.16...
> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:
>
>> That assumes that they are the *same* people and I think that's the
>> wrong assumption to make.
>
> I have read and re-read that statement, and the sense of it escapes me.
Look at it another way. Those who would have asked techie q's have gone
elsewhere. Those who ask for dumps are very transitory and will be around
the ng for as long as it takes to obtain (or more typically, not obtain, a
dump). Those who would ask techie q's tend to stay near a resource which is
useful to them and subsequently they are more long term.

A *very* quick look back through the last 2 months worth of posts shows very
few techie questions, compare this to 4 or 5 years ago.

>
>> I think those who at one time did ask
>> techie q's wouldn't consider it now as there are far more amiable
>> areas such as http based forums.
>
> Cite? Are you aware of some pool of "techie q" askers that are somehow
> discrete from the general population that finds it's way here? You are
> aware, are you not, that most, if not all, of the "IQ-0's" you refer to
> in here are in fact techies themselves, and share questions and
> information in this newsgroup, among other places, regularly. I have been
> hanging around in this newsgroup for several years, Dave, and have seen
> no exodus of "techie q" askers over that time.
The stats from google suggest otherwise.

> Quite the contrary, in
> fact. Folks with genuine questions and concerns have found this a
> pleasant place to be, and tend to stay. Many have even eventually earned
> their MCNGP!
>
>> Those asking for dumps clearly don't
>> fall into the same category as the techie-q-askers.
>>
>>> Interesting premise, but seemingly not supported by the facts.
>> I doubt there are any real quantifiable facts here, just observations
>> taken over a period of time with random invervals in between samples.
>>
>
> Your observations appear to be invalidated by the evidence.
>
> --
> JaR
> Thug 10110
> MCNGP.com

Kline
Wed Sep 07 10:58:48 CDT 2005

>Those who would ask techie q's tend to stay near a resource which is
>useful to them.

You are correct; for me it's msdn.microsoft.com &
technet.microsoft.com for ms related stuff.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Dave
Wed Sep 07 11:01:56 CDT 2005

"Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
news:7d3uh1pacfhkuhfpa010jou34vvsvgd5jj@4ax.com...
> >Those who would ask techie q's tend to stay near a resource which is
>>useful to them.
>
> You are correct; for me it's msdn.microsoft.com &
> technet.microsoft.com for ms related stuff.
Ditto, agreed.

m0rk
Wed Sep 07 13:57:24 CDT 2005

I think what you means is... "Can I be an MCNGP?"

I'll give you some tips, extracted from the mcngp website:
MCNGP Requirements:

a.. Must be able to prove proficiency in network design implementation and
management.
b.. Must excel in OS installation methods, performance tweaking and
troubleshooting.
c.. Must frequent microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and provide a proven
track record of techincally competent posts.
d.. Must demonstrate posting skills both defensive and offensively.
e.. Must know what Chalk's term is and must have used it at least twice in
it's pure form.
f.. Must have excellent knowledge of Kerpalism.
g.. Must be willing to stand beside your fellow MCNGP's.
m0rk


"Patrick Dickey" <pd1ckey43@msn.com.removethis> wrote in message
news:e9iC0XysFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> JaR wrote:
>> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:
>
>>
>> Cite? Are you aware of some pool of "techie q" askers that are somehow
>> discrete from the general population that finds it's way here? You are
>> aware, are you not, that most, if not all, of the "IQ-0's" you refer to
>> in here are in fact techies themselves, and share questions and
>> information in this newsgroup, among other places, regularly. I have been
>> hanging around in this newsgroup for several years, Dave, and have seen
>> no exodus of "techie q" askers over that time. Quite the contrary, in
>> fact. Folks with genuine questions and concerns have found this a
>> pleasant place to be, and tend to stay. Many have even eventually earned
>> their MCNGP!
>>
>
> I have to agree with you here. I'm a techie, although I haven't asked
> any 'techie' questions. I'm no where near (in my mind) ready to take
> any of the exams, and as I get closer I'm sure I'll ask questions. I
> know full well, that some of the questions I'll ask are stupid (or at
> the very least, easy for a lot of you) but I'll ask them anyhow.
> Because someone will give me an answer, or at least point me in the
> right direction.
>
> And, I definitely won't ask where any 'dumps' are. I lived about three
> blocks from one for years, and didn't like the smell then.. So, I don't
> want to smell it now..;) And, I've browsed some of the http: forums
> that you mention Dave. Guess what I've found.. I've found a LOT of the
> same people here answering the questions there also. So, I guess it
> won't matter WHERE they go to ask their question. These people will
> probably be the ones to answer them.
>
> --
> Patrick Dickey <pd1ckey43@removethis.msn.com>
> http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com
> Smile.. someone out there cares deeply for you.

Neil
Wed Sep 07 14:16:14 CDT 2005

did you hear Patrick Dickey <pd1ckey43@msn.com.removethis> say in
news:e9iC0XysFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> I've found a LOT of the
> same people here answering the questions there also.

often becuase the web forums are little more than webified versions of this
here chat rum. the take a newsfeed pull from the public forums and put a
cute front end on it.

NNTP == not nice to people?

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- "That's not art," the critic said abstractly.

Dave
Wed Sep 07 14:26:17 CDT 2005

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oKGTe.7780$Y06.4914@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>I think what you means is... "Can I be an MCNGP?"
>
> I'll give you some tips, extracted from the mcngp website:
> MCNGP Requirements:
>
> a.. Must be able to prove proficiency in network design implementation
> and management.
> b.. Must excel in OS installation methods, performance tweaking and
> troubleshooting.
> c.. Must frequent microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and provide a proven
> track record of techincally competent posts.
> d.. Must demonstrate posting skills both defensive and offensively.
> e.. Must know what Chalk's term is and must have used it at least twice
> in it's pure form.
> f.. Must have excellent knowledge of Kerpalism.
> g.. Must be willing to stand beside your fellow MCNGP's.
> m0rk
<snip>
Who controls the British Crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do, we do.
...

Sorry guys, couldn't resist that one.

Kline
Wed Sep 07 15:04:18 CDT 2005

>NNTP == not nice to people?

Natural Nap Time Posters

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Neil
Wed Sep 07 15:06:01 CDT 2005

did you hear Kline Sphere <.@> say in
news:fthuh11hj8av3u7u99pqlg8k6hu7a6m4u3@4ax.com:

>>NNTP == not nice to people?
>
> Natural Nap Time Posters
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>

Neil's Nekid To Please

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Fraud: A telephone number starting with "1-900"

m0rk
Wed Sep 07 15:19:16 CDT 2005

here is a spoon...

________ .==.
[________>c((_ )
'=='
eat my asS

m0rk



"Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:OKSJ%23H%23sFHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:oKGTe.7780$Y06.4914@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>I think what you means is... "Can I be an MCNGP?"
>>
>> I'll give you some tips, extracted from the mcngp website:
>> MCNGP Requirements:
>>
>> a.. Must be able to prove proficiency in network design implementation
>> and management.
>> b.. Must excel in OS installation methods, performance tweaking and
>> troubleshooting.
>> c.. Must frequent microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and provide a proven
>> track record of techincally competent posts.
>> d.. Must demonstrate posting skills both defensive and offensively.
>> e.. Must know what Chalk's term is and must have used it at least twice
>> in it's pure form.
>> f.. Must have excellent knowledge of Kerpalism.
>> g.. Must be willing to stand beside your fellow MCNGP's.
>> m0rk
> <snip>
> Who controls the British Crown?
> Who keeps the metric system down?
> We do, we do.
> ...
>
> Sorry guys, couldn't resist that one.
>

Briscobar
Wed Sep 07 15:22:35 CDT 2005

Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> rambled:
>
> did you hear Kline Sphere <.@> say in
> news:fthuh11hj8av3u7u99pqlg8k6hu7a6m4u3@4ax.com:
>
>>> NNTP == not nice to people?
>>
>> Natural Nap Time Posters
>>
>> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>>
>
> Neil's Nekid To Please

Noooooooooo!!!!!! Neil's Tiny P3nis!!!!!!!!!

--
KB

MCNGP #26
nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.

m0rk
Wed Sep 07 15:23:10 CDT 2005

ah bugger... time to ditch Outlook Express and power-up something that
doesn't feck ascii art

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8XHTe.2307$st1.1019@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> here is a spoon...
>
> ________ .==.
> [________>c((_ )
> '=='
> eat my asS
>
> m0rk
>
>
>
> "Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:OKSJ%23H%23sFHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:oKGTe.7780$Y06.4914@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>>I think what you means is... "Can I be an MCNGP?"
>>>
>>> I'll give you some tips, extracted from the mcngp website:
>>> MCNGP Requirements:
>>>
>>> a.. Must be able to prove proficiency in network design implementation
>>> and management.
>>> b.. Must excel in OS installation methods, performance tweaking and
>>> troubleshooting.
>>> c.. Must frequent microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and provide a proven
>>> track record of techincally competent posts.
>>> d.. Must demonstrate posting skills both defensive and offensively.
>>> e.. Must know what Chalk's term is and must have used it at least twice
>>> in it's pure form.
>>> f.. Must have excellent knowledge of Kerpalism.
>>> g.. Must be willing to stand beside your fellow MCNGP's.
>>> m0rk
>> <snip>
>> Who controls the British Crown?
>> Who keeps the metric system down?
>> We do, we do.
>> ...
>>
>> Sorry guys, couldn't resist that one.
>>
>
>

Neil
Wed Sep 07 15:25:35 CDT 2005

did you hear "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> say in news:8XHTe.2307$st1.1019
@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net:

> here is a spoon...
>
> ________ .==.
> [________>c((_ )
> '=='
> eat my asS
>
> m0rk
>
>

oooooo, ascii art. here's a delorean:

---~~~~--__ __--~~~~---__
`\---~~~~~~~~\\ //~~~~~~~~---/'
\/~~~~~~~~~\|| ||/~~~~~~~~~\/
`\\ //'
`\\ //'
|| ||
______--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~--______
___ // _-~ ~-_ \\ ___
`\__)\/~ ~\/(__/'
_--`-___ ___-'--_
/~ `\ ~~~~~~~~------------~~~~~~~~ /' ~\
/| `\ ________ /' |\
| `\ ______`\_ \------/ _/'______ /' |
| `\_~-_____\ ~-________________-~ /_____-~_/' |
`. ~-__________________________________-~ .'
`. [_______/------|~~|------\_______] .'
`\--___((____)(________\/________)(____))___--/'
|>>>>>>|| ||<<<<<<|
`\<<<<</' `\>>>>>/'

your turn....


--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Brain damage? No thanks, I already have some.

Neil
Wed Sep 07 15:26:28 CDT 2005

did you hear "Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> say in
news:OLykAn#sFHA.2912@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> Noooooooooo!!!!!! Neil's Tiny P3nis!!!!!!!!!

Not Nice, Tiny Puke

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- There's an answer to every problem. Sometimes it's "No."

Neil
Wed Sep 07 15:27:32 CDT 2005

did you hear Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> say in
news:Xns96CAA7194B800neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16:

> oooooo, ascii art. here's a delorean:

oy! Mangled....

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Never test for an error condition you can't solve.

Neil
Wed Sep 07 15:28:31 CDT 2005

did you hear "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> say in news:O_HTe.2308$st1.2019
@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net:

> ah bugger... time to ditch Outlook Express and power-up something that
> doesn't feck ascii art

well, it wont be xnews if my delorean is an example...

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Never test for an error condition you can't solve.

Your
Wed Sep 07 15:31:37 CDT 2005


Nicked from: http://www.ascii-art.de/ascii/ab/accident.txt


1. There's a man who used to be a speedy jockey
when he was young.

_
_(<`O ,
==-( >`-/ \
,< \ / >
---'--- `---'-MK/ejm



2. Now he's an elderly man and not very speedy
any more.


.----.
| | MOOK! MOOK!
| __ |/
. |[ 8]| )
`(.(o==o).)
" "
_
O'>)
/ f< \
// / / | | \ \\
/ \ ejm/a:f



3. Fortunately he knows a very nice eldery lady who
visits him in the hospital.

From llizard : 'Poor fellow didn't see what was coming and even
(ejm) though that MOOK! MOOK! was so loud, he didn't
hear because he was on his way to getting new
batteries for his hearing aid. and now he has to
lie immobilized with his leg in one of those slings
and his mouth in a silent constant scream of agony.'
?
! /_\
|C_,_/_____|
ejm98 | ||:::::f| O+
_/\
f /|
| \~\



4. And the friendly old lady even wants to help him getting some fresh
air ...



PUB |
Rats! _ |
Steps. .' `. |
+o ' | | |
/\_ .o |- | |
|\ `(< __; | | | .-
/~/ (*)L r===r|.__|.-' ejm/a:f

Dave
Wed Sep 07 15:30:32 CDT 2005

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8XHTe.2307$st1.1019@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> here is a spoon...
Here is a [another] pot toaster

>
> ________ .==.
> [________>c((_ )
> '=='
> eat my asS
>
> m0rk


> "Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:OKSJ%23H%23sFHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:oKGTe.7780$Y06.4914@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>>I think what you means is... "Can I be an MCNGP?"
>>>
>>> I'll give you some tips, extracted from the mcngp website:
>>> MCNGP Requirements:
>>>
>>> a.. Must be able to prove proficiency in network design implementation
>>> and management.
>>> b.. Must excel in OS installation methods, performance tweaking and
>>> troubleshooting.
>>> c.. Must frequent microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and provide a proven
>>> track record of techincally competent posts.
>>> d.. Must demonstrate posting skills both defensive and offensively.
>>> e.. Must know what Chalk's term is and must have used it at least twice
>>> in it's pure form.
>>> f.. Must have excellent knowledge of Kerpalism.
>>> g.. Must be willing to stand beside your fellow MCNGP's.
>>> m0rk
>> <snip>
>> Who controls the British Crown?
>> Who keeps the metric system down?
>> We do, we do.
>> ...
>>
>> Sorry guys, couldn't resist that one.
>>
>
>

m0rk
Wed Sep 07 15:37:36 CDT 2005

ah boll0cks... did a crap job of setting up xnews, which also mAnGLeD my pic

m0rk

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96CAA798BA508neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> say in news:O_HTe.2308$st1.2019
> @newsfe3-gui.ntli.net:
>
>> ah bugger... time to ditch Outlook Express and power-up something that
>> doesn't feck ascii art
>
> well, it wont be xnews if my delorean is an example...
>
> --
> Neil MCNGP#30
>
> - Never test for an error condition you can't solve.

m0rk
Wed Sep 07 15:49:10 CDT 2005

,---,_ ,
_> `'-. .--'/
.--'` ._ `/ <_
>,-' ._'.. ..__ . ' '-.
.-' .'` `'. '.
> / >`-. .-'< \ , '._\
/ ; '-._> <_.-' ; '._>
`> ,/ /___\ /___\ \_ /
`.-|(| \o_/ \o_/ |)|`
jgs \; \ ;/
\ .-, )-. /
/` .'-'. `\
;_.-`.___.'-.;


Einstine...or Neil? ha ha ha

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96CAA7194B800neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> say in news:8XHTe.2307$st1.1019
> @newsfe3-gui.ntli.net:
>
>> here is a spoon...
>>
>> ________ .==.
>> [________>c((_ )
>> '=='
>> eat my asS
>>
>> m0rk
>>
>>
>
> oooooo, ascii art. here's a delorean:
>
> ---~~~~--__ __--~~~~---__
> `\---~~~~~~~~\\ //~~~~~~~~---/'
> \/~~~~~~~~~\|| ||/~~~~~~~~~\/
> `\\ //'
> `\\ //'
> || ||
> ______--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~--______
> ___ // _-~ ~-_ \\ ___
> `\__)\/~ ~\/(__/'
> _--`-___ ___-'--_
> /~ `\ ~~~~~~~~------------~~~~~~~~ /' ~\
> /| `\ ________ /' |\
> | `\ ______`\_ \------/ _/'______ /' |
> | `\_~-_____\ ~-________________-~ /_____-~_/' |
> `. ~-__________________________________-~ .'
> `. [_______/------|~~|------\_______] .'
> `\--___((____)(________\/________)(____))___--/'
> |>>>>>>|| ||<<<<<<|
> `\<<<<</' `\>>>>>/'
>
> your turn....
>
>
> --
> Neil MCNGP#30
>
> - Brain damage? No thanks, I already have some.

Dave
Wed Sep 07 16:36:31 CDT 2005


"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8XHTe.2307$st1.1019@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> here is a spoon...
>
> ________ .==.
> [________>c((_ )
> '=='
> eat my asS
>
> m0rk
<snip>
Did I touch a nerve? Oh good! Is there still learning a special handshake
and parading around with a rolled-up trouser leg involved in your little
initiation ceremonies?

catwalker63
Wed Sep 07 19:04:06 CDT 2005

"Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> prattled ceaslessly in
news:u1kNvQ$sFHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> Did I touch a nerve? Oh good! Is there still learning a special
> handshake and parading around with a rolled-up trouser leg involved in
> your little initiation ceremonies?
>


Someone's been spying! At least no one knows about the goat.

--
Catwalker
aka Pu$$y Feet
BS, MCP, MCSA, MCSE
MCNGP #43
www.mcngp.com
faq.mcngp.com
"Definitely not wearing any underwear."

catwalker63
Wed Sep 07 19:05:42 CDT 2005

Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> prattled ceaslessly in
news:Xns96CAA3C7DCEBneilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16:

> did you hear Kline Sphere <.@> say in
> news:fthuh11hj8av3u7u99pqlg8k6hu7a6m4u3@4ax.com:
>
>>>NNTP == not nice to people?
>>
>> Natural Nap Time Posters
>>
>> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>>
>
> Neil's Nekid To Please
>

Ew!

--
Catwalker
aka Pu$$y Feet
BS, MCP, MCSA, MCSE
MCNGP #43
www.mcngp.com
faq.mcngp.com
"Definitely not wearing any underwear."

lowdes
Wed Sep 07 22:35:55 CDT 2005

Lame

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96C958A30A18Misanthrope@207.46.248.16...
> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:
>
>> I think a lot of posters have been put off asking technical
>> (interesting) questions here due to the IQ-0's replying with "google
>> is your friend".
>
> Right. People have been put off asking technical questions, but don't have
> the slightest hesitation about asking for the latest dumps, or how to get
> their lapel pin, ice scraper and certificate after passing their final
> exam.
>
> Interesting premise, but seemingly not supported by the facts.
>
> --
> JaR
> Thug 10110
> MCNGP.com

lowdes
Wed Sep 07 22:36:27 CDT 2005

And there are still Assholes in IT, we call them the MCNGP

"Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
news:h6mrh1l64stfg30ar73fe60a05b9phrp4a@4ax.com...
>> I think those who at one time did ask techie q's
>>wouldn't consider it now as there are far more amiable areas such as http
>>based forums.
>
> .. and *still* there are stupid people in IT, it really does amaze me.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

lowdes
Wed Sep 07 22:37:18 CDT 2005

You forgot one . . . . .

Must be an asshole


"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:oKGTe.7780$Y06.4914@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>I think what you means is... "Can I be an MCNGP?"
>
> I'll give you some tips, extracted from the mcngp website:
> MCNGP Requirements:
>
> a.. Must be able to prove proficiency in network design implementation
> and management.
> b.. Must excel in OS installation methods, performance tweaking and
> troubleshooting.
> c.. Must frequent microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and provide a proven
> track record of techincally competent posts.
> d.. Must demonstrate posting skills both defensive and offensively.
> e.. Must know what Chalk's term is and must have used it at least twice
> in it's pure form.
> f.. Must have excellent knowledge of Kerpalism.
> g.. Must be willing to stand beside your fellow MCNGP's.
> m0rk
>
>
> "Patrick Dickey" <pd1ckey43@msn.com.removethis> wrote in message
> news:e9iC0XysFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> JaR wrote:
>>> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:
>>
>>>
>>> Cite? Are you aware of some pool of "techie q" askers that are somehow
>>> discrete from the general population that finds it's way here? You are
>>> aware, are you not, that most, if not all, of the "IQ-0's" you refer to
>>> in here are in fact techies themselves, and share questions and
>>> information in this newsgroup, among other places, regularly. I have
>>> been
>>> hanging around in this newsgroup for several years, Dave, and have seen
>>> no exodus of "techie q" askers over that time. Quite the contrary, in
>>> fact. Folks with genuine questions and concerns have found this a
>>> pleasant place to be, and tend to stay. Many have even eventually earned
>>> their MCNGP!
>>>
>>
>> I have to agree with you here. I'm a techie, although I haven't asked
>> any 'techie' questions. I'm no where near (in my mind) ready to take
>> any of the exams, and as I get closer I'm sure I'll ask questions. I
>> know full well, that some of the questions I'll ask are stupid (or at
>> the very least, easy for a lot of you) but I'll ask them anyhow.
>> Because someone will give me an answer, or at least point me in the
>> right direction.
>>
>> And, I definitely won't ask where any 'dumps' are. I lived about three
>> blocks from one for years, and didn't like the smell then.. So, I don't
>> want to smell it now..;) And, I've browsed some of the http: forums
>> that you mention Dave. Guess what I've found.. I've found a LOT of the
>> same people here answering the questions there also. So, I guess it
>> won't matter WHERE they go to ask their question. These people will
>> probably be the ones to answer them.
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Dickey <pd1ckey43@removethis.msn.com>
>> http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com
>> Smile.. someone out there cares deeply for you.
>
>

Dave
Thu Sep 08 03:59:22 CDT 2005

"catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96CAADA116C95catwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
> "Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> prattled ceaslessly in
> news:u1kNvQ$sFHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
>
>> Did I touch a nerve? Oh good! Is there still learning a special
>> handshake and parading around with a rolled-up trouser leg involved in
>> your little initiation ceremonies?
>>
>
>
> Someone's been spying! At least no one knows about the goat.
I agree, we didn't until now ...

Neil
Thu Sep 08 07:40:35 CDT 2005

did you hear "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> say in news:anITe.7791$Y06.1297
@newsfe2-win.ntli.net:

> Einstine...or Neil?

6 of one....

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- A lottery is just a tax on people who are bad at math.

Neil
Thu Sep 08 07:41:46 CDT 2005

did you hear catwalker63 <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> say in
news:Xns96CAADE6A4E70catwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136:

>> Neil's Nekid To Please
>>
>
> Ew!

WHAT!?!?! Nekid Neil Totally Pleases!

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Sysops die at an early age...murdered by their wives.

T-Bone
Thu Sep 08 08:03:45 CDT 2005

"Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> wrote
> Who controls the British Crown?
> Who keeps the metric system down?
> We do, we do.

Hey, we're not taking the blame for Steve Guttenberg.
--
T-Bone
MCNGP XL

catwalker63
Thu Sep 08 13:35:59 CDT 2005

Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> prattled ceaslessly in
news:Xns96CB58767EE3Dneilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16:

> did you hear catwalker63 <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> say in
> news:Xns96CAADE6A4E70catwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136:
>
>>> Neil's Nekid To Please
>>>
>>
>> Ew!
>
> WHAT!?!?! Nekid Neil Totally Pleases!
>

Really ew!

--
Catwalker
aka Pu$$y Feet
BS, MCP, MCSA, MCSE
MCNGP #43
www.mcngp.com
faq.mcngp.com
"Definitely not wearing any underwear."

Neil
Thu Sep 08 13:44:52 CDT 2005

did you hear catwalker63 <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> say in
news:Xns96CB75FFBE272catwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136:

>
> Really ew!

I have a six pack, it's just in bubble wrap to protect it.

{$1 to a guy on channel 2}

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence

m0rk
Sun Sep 11 10:15:24 CDT 2005

you're a lamer

nanu nanu

"lowdes" <low_desert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OlOTe.47853$32.10959@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> You forgot one . . . . .
>
> Must be an asshole
>
>
> "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:oKGTe.7780$Y06.4914@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>>I think what you means is... "Can I be an MCNGP?"
>>
>> I'll give you some tips, extracted from the mcngp website:
>> MCNGP Requirements:
>>
>> a.. Must be able to prove proficiency in network design implementation
>> and management.
>> b.. Must excel in OS installation methods, performance tweaking and
>> troubleshooting.
>> c.. Must frequent microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and provide a proven
>> track record of techincally competent posts.
>> d.. Must demonstrate posting skills both defensive and offensively.
>> e.. Must know what Chalk's term is and must have used it at least twice
>> in it's pure form.
>> f.. Must have excellent knowledge of Kerpalism.
>> g.. Must be willing to stand beside your fellow MCNGP's.
>> m0rk
>>
>>
>> "Patrick Dickey" <pd1ckey43@msn.com.removethis> wrote in message
>> news:e9iC0XysFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> JaR wrote:
>>>> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cite? Are you aware of some pool of "techie q" askers that are somehow
>>>> discrete from the general population that finds it's way here? You are
>>>> aware, are you not, that most, if not all, of the "IQ-0's" you refer to
>>>> in here are in fact techies themselves, and share questions and
>>>> information in this newsgroup, among other places, regularly. I have
>>>> been
>>>> hanging around in this newsgroup for several years, Dave, and have seen
>>>> no exodus of "techie q" askers over that time. Quite the contrary, in
>>>> fact. Folks with genuine questions and concerns have found this a
>>>> pleasant place to be, and tend to stay. Many have even eventually
>>>> earned
>>>> their MCNGP!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have to agree with you here. I'm a techie, although I haven't asked
>>> any 'techie' questions. I'm no where near (in my mind) ready to take
>>> any of the exams, and as I get closer I'm sure I'll ask questions. I
>>> know full well, that some of the questions I'll ask are stupid (or at
>>> the very least, easy for a lot of you) but I'll ask them anyhow.
>>> Because someone will give me an answer, or at least point me in the
>>> right direction.
>>>
>>> And, I definitely won't ask where any 'dumps' are. I lived about three
>>> blocks from one for years, and didn't like the smell then.. So, I don't
>>> want to smell it now..;) And, I've browsed some of the http: forums
>>> that you mention Dave. Guess what I've found.. I've found a LOT of the
>>> same people here answering the questions there also. So, I guess it
>>> won't matter WHERE they go to ask their question. These people will
>>> probably be the ones to answer them.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Patrick Dickey <pd1ckey43@removethis.msn.com>
>>> http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com
>>> Smile.. someone out there cares deeply for you.
>>
>>
>
>

m0rk
Sun Sep 11 10:15:33 CDT 2005

you're a lamer

nanu nanu

"lowdes" <low_desert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%kOTe.47852$32.16881@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> And there are still Assholes in IT, we call them the MCNGP
>
> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
> news:h6mrh1l64stfg30ar73fe60a05b9phrp4a@4ax.com...
>>> I think those who at one time did ask techie q's
>>>wouldn't consider it now as there are far more amiable areas such as http
>>>based forums.
>>
>> .. and *still* there are stupid people in IT, it really does amaze me.
>>
>> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>
>

m0rk
Sun Sep 11 10:15:38 CDT 2005

you're a lamer

nanu nanu

"lowdes" <low_desert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vkOTe.47851$32.34653@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Lame
>
> "JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96C958A30A18Misanthrope@207.46.248.16...
>> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Dave spewed across the ether:
>>
>>> I think a lot of posters have been put off asking technical
>>> (interesting) questions here due to the IQ-0's replying with "google
>>> is your friend".
>>
>> Right. People have been put off asking technical questions, but don't
>> have
>> the slightest hesitation about asking for the latest dumps, or how to get
>> their lapel pin, ice scraper and certificate after passing their final
>> exam.
>>
>> Interesting premise, but seemingly not supported by the facts.
>>
>> --
>> JaR
>> Thug 10110
>> MCNGP.com
>
>

m0rk
Sun Sep 11 10:18:01 CDT 2005

you're a lamer

nanu nanu

"lowdes" <low_desert@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0p0Te.42778$32.22391@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> You wouldn't even want to try to ask a question in this NG, due to all the
> assholes that call themselves MCNGP
>
>
> "Dave" <Dave@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:%23Fp5OaksFHA.3908@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
>> news:n7voh1ltcff5bekd4e9ebegjm8ehinvukl@4ax.com...
>>>>> Fantastic,
>>>>>
>>>>> This should be posted hourly, for all the new guys, trolls and
>>>>> plonkers.
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>>>
>>>>Ah, another potential rocket scientist looking to join ...
>>>
>>> He was referring to people like you and your buddies dave.
>> And when was the last time I *asked* an MCSE related question on this ng?
>> When was the last time I asked even a technically related question here?
>>
>>
>
>