Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
goal is in Networking?

If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+ certification. I am
taking the second class of A+ at a local college.

Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by rev

rev
Wed Mar 26 00:21:51 CDT 2008

The issue here isn't will it help you in your job, its will it help you on
an interview. And herein lies the problem. Letters after your name always
help when the HR Monkey is looking at your resume, the actual hiring manager
for the Network job in question wont really care I imagine, but he may not
see your file if you don't get passed the first layer.

Personally I didn't take my A+ untill the fall of 2004 because I had no need
for it. Then someone asked me to teach it so I took the two exams one day
before lunch. I later added the 3 specializations when they came out for the
same reason, did again just becuase I was asked to teach them. A large
number of people still look at the A+/Net+ combo as a good starter
certification pack to have when moving forwardi n IT. But honestly it
doesn't matter if you don't care about the letters and don't feel like
spending the insane amount of money per exam. what are they now? Something
like 160 per for A+? Over 200 for Net+ now too IIRC....

I know my blood runs blue but MS does at least have the least exepensive
exam fees in the US anyway...

--
.rev

www.askthemct.com
.
<Win.Tin.Mar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5a90e1a0-584d-49fb-bfc9-62ae976b0917@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
> rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
> goal is in Networking?
>
> If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+ certification. I am
> taking the second class of A+ at a local college.


RE: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by Dude

Dude
Wed Mar 26 01:31:02 CDT 2008

My employer requires A+ and Network+ before you can get hired. For most
MCSE's though, the MCSE seems to carry more weight though. Here are the
pro's and con's of A+ and Network+, in my opinion.

Pros: A+ and Network+ show more experience. You might have a better chance
at a job overs someone who is a 'paper' MCSE. Network+ will help you prepare
for other exams like the CCNA and 70-291 exams. A+ and Network+ NEVER expire
or reach 'end of life cycle'. CompTIA exams are non vendor specific, so if
Microsoft goes belly up your credentials will still be valid. CompTIA A+ and
Network+ together count as an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications.

Cons: Not as well known as MCSE. Some people have never heard of CompTIA.
A+ and Network+ aren't as well recognized outside of the US. The exams cost
almost double the price of Microsoft exams. To take both A+ and the Network+
exams will cost almost $700, ouch! The high price tag is why most MCSE's
skip these exams.

I've also taken Security+, which is a good exam and not that hard. I've
seen test questions similar to Security+ on some Microsoft exams like 70-622
and 70-649. This exam will help prepare you for other exams. Security+ is
also an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications. Security+ is non vendor
specific. If you take A+ and Network+, I also recommend that you take
Security+. Maybe your employeer will reimburse you for the exam fees?
Security is a big issue these days.

I've also taken CompTIA i-Net+, which doesn't seem to help much unless you
are a Webmaster. Some of the exam questions were similar to Security+ and
some Microsoft exams. It did help me study for other exams, but I don't
think it was really worth the exam fee. A+/Network+ and Security+ will do
more to help you get a job than i-Net+.

Ok, there is my $0.02 about CompTIA. I hope this helps.




"Win.Tin.Mar@gmail.com" wrote:

> Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
> rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
> goal is in Networking?
>
> If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+ certification. I am
> taking the second class of A+ at a local college.
>

Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by Jtyc

Jtyc
Wed Mar 26 09:38:24 CDT 2008

> Does it help to have A+ certificate

I'm A+ certified and well, just look at me!


*shows some leg*

Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by Win

Win
Fri Mar 28 00:40:17 CDT 2008

On Mar 25, 11:31 pm, Dude <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> My employer requires A+ and Network+ before you can get hired. For most
> MCSE's though, the MCSE seems to carry more weight though. Here are the
> pro's and con's of A+ and Network+, in my opinion.
>
> Pros: A+ and Network+ show more experience. You might have a better chance
> at a job overs someone who is a 'paper' MCSE. Network+ will help you prepare
> for other exams like the CCNA and 70-291 exams. A+ and Network+ NEVER expire
> or reach 'end of life cycle'. CompTIA exams are non vendor specific, so if
> Microsoft goes belly up your credentials will still be valid. CompTIA A+ and
> Network+ together count as an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications.
>
> Cons: Not as well known as MCSE. Some people have never heard of CompTIA.
> A+ and Network+ aren't as well recognized outside of the US. The exams cost
> almost double the price of Microsoft exams. To take both A+ and the Network+
> exams will cost almost $700, ouch! The high price tag is why most MCSE's
> skip these exams.
>
> I've also taken Security+, which is a good exam and not that hard. I've
> seen test questions similar to Security+ on some Microsoft exams like 70-622
> and 70-649. This exam will help prepare you for other exams. Security+ is
> also an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications. Security+ is non vendor
> specific. If you take A+ and Network+, I also recommend that you take
> Security+. Maybe your employeer will reimburse you for the exam fees?
> Security is a big issue these days.
>
> I've also taken CompTIA i-Net+, which doesn't seem to help much unless you
> are a Webmaster. Some of the exam questions were similar to Security+ and
> some Microsoft exams. It did help me study for other exams, but I don't
> think it was really worth the exam fee. A+/Network+ and Security+ will do
> more to help you get a job than i-Net+.
>
> Ok, there is my $0.02 about CompTIA. I hope this helps.

It helps a lot. Earlier this year, I told myself to take A+, Network
+,,and security+ in summer as soon as this current semester is over.

I might have to postpone Security+ because my plan to study for it
along with a course in fundamental of Security didn't work out when
the instructor for that class was extremely lousy and I dropped the
class. I can study on my own but I decided to just do A+ and Network+
first as soon as this semester is over and then study for security+ -
hopefully, I get to take it before fall semester starts - ssince I am
also taking classes that would prepare me for MCSA, a class in Active
Directory and also Advanced Windows Security.

I do not plan to take MCSA or MCSE. I plan to take Cisco classes in
coming fall and take exams in December (for 1 & 2level).

Thanks.






>
> "Win.Tin....@gmail.com" wrote:
> > Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
> > rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
> > goal is in Networking?
>
> > If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+ certification. I am
> > taking the second class of A+ at a local college.


Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by Win

Win
Fri Mar 28 00:43:15 CDT 2008

On Mar 25, 10:21 pm, ".rev [askthemct.com]"
<ireportbadpeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The issue here isn't will it help you in your job, its will it help you on
> an interview. And herein lies the problem. Letters after your name always
> help
Well then, I can say "A+ certification" with a future date next to
it :)

> when the HR Monkey is looking at your resume, the actual hiring manager
> for the Network job in question wont really care I imagine,
> but he may not
> see your file if you don't get passed the first layer.
Good point.

>
> Personally I didn't take my A+ untill the fall of 2004 because I had no need
> for it. Then someone asked me to teach it so I took the two exams one day
> before lunch. I later added the 3 specializations when they came out for the
> same reason, did again just becuase I was asked to teach them. A large
> number of people still look at the A+/Net+ combo as a good starter
> certification pack to have when moving forwardi n IT. But honestly it
> doesn't matter if you don't care about the letters and don't feel like
> spending the insane amount of money per exam. what are they now? Something
> like 160 per for A+? Over 200 for Net+ now too IIRC....
>
> I know my blood runs blue but MS does at least have the least exepensive
> exam fees in the US anyway...

I am in US.
>
> --
> .rev
>
> www.askthemct.com
> .<Win.Tin....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5a90e1a0-584d-49fb-bfc9-62ae976b0917@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
> > rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
> > goal is in Networking?
>
> > If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+ certification. I am
> > taking the second class of A+ at a local college.

>

Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exa by Dude

Dude
Fri Mar 28 14:44:00 CDT 2008



"Win.Tin.Mar@gmail.com" wrote:

> On Mar 25, 11:31 pm, Dude <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > My employer requires A+ and Network+ before you can get hired. For most
> > MCSE's though, the MCSE seems to carry more weight though. Here are the
> > pro's and con's of A+ and Network+, in my opinion.
> >
> > Pros: A+ and Network+ show more experience. You might have a better chance
> > at a job overs someone who is a 'paper' MCSE. Network+ will help you prepare
> > for other exams like the CCNA and 70-291 exams. A+ and Network+ NEVER expire
> > or reach 'end of life cycle'. CompTIA exams are non vendor specific, so if
> > Microsoft goes belly up your credentials will still be valid. CompTIA A+ and
> > Network+ together count as an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications.
> >
> > Cons: Not as well known as MCSE. Some people have never heard of CompTIA.
> > A+ and Network+ aren't as well recognized outside of the US. The exams cost
> > almost double the price of Microsoft exams. To take both A+ and the Network+
> > exams will cost almost $700, ouch! The high price tag is why most MCSE's
> > skip these exams.
> >
> > I've also taken Security+, which is a good exam and not that hard. I've
> > seen test questions similar to Security+ on some Microsoft exams like 70-622
> > and 70-649. This exam will help prepare you for other exams. Security+ is
> > also an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications. Security+ is non vendor
> > specific. If you take A+ and Network+, I also recommend that you take
> > Security+. Maybe your employeer will reimburse you for the exam fees?
> > Security is a big issue these days.
> >
> > I've also taken CompTIA i-Net+, which doesn't seem to help much unless you
> > are a Webmaster. Some of the exam questions were similar to Security+ and
> > some Microsoft exams. It did help me study for other exams, but I don't
> > think it was really worth the exam fee. A+/Network+ and Security+ will do
> > more to help you get a job than i-Net+.
> >
> > Ok, there is my $0.02 about CompTIA. I hope this helps.
>
> It helps a lot. Earlier this year, I told myself to take A+, Network
> +,,and security+ in summer as soon as this current semester is over.
>
> I might have to postpone Security+ because my plan to study for it
> along with a course in fundamental of Security didn't work out when
> the instructor for that class was extremely lousy and I dropped the
> class. I can study on my own but I decided to just do A+ and Network+
> first as soon as this semester is over and then study for security+ -
> hopefully, I get to take it before fall semester starts - ssince I am
> also taking classes that would prepare me for MCSA, a class in Active
> Directory and also Advanced Windows Security.
>
> I do not plan to take MCSA or MCSE. I plan to take Cisco classes in
> coming fall and take exams in December (for 1 & 2level).
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

I ordered a used 'Security+ for Dummies' book from Amazon.com to study for
this exam. It was under $10 including shipping. The material in this book
is easy to read and humorous. I even laughed at the section about MD5 hash
algorithms. It covered the exam objectives very well. For this price it was
totally worth it. Between reading this book, 1 chapter a week, and some
practice questions, I passed the Security+ exam no problem.

>
>
>
> >
> > "Win.Tin....@gmail.com" wrote:
> > > Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
> > > rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
> > > goal is in Networking?
> >
> > > If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+ certification. I am
> > > taking the second class of A+ at a local college.
>
>

Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by Jason

Jason
Fri Mar 28 14:52:42 CDT 2008

I got A+ back around '97 or '98 I guess. It definitely helps get you headed
in the right direction.

- Jason


On 3/25/08 9:44 PM, in article
5a90e1a0-584d-49fb-bfc9-62ae976b0917@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
"Win.Tin.Mar@gmail.com" <Win.Tin.Mar@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
> rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
> goal is in Networking?
>
> If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+ certification. I am
> taking the second class of A+ at a local college.


Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by pointy_ears

pointy_ears
Tue Apr 08 08:30:05 CDT 2008

On Mar 26, 2:31 am, Dude <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> My employer requires A+ and Network+ before you can get hired. For most
> MCSE's though, the MCSE seems to carry more weight though. Here are the
> pro's and con's of A+ and Network+, in my opinion.
>
> Pros: A+ and Network+ show more experience. You might have a better chance
> at a job overs someone who is a 'paper' MCSE. Network+ will help you prepare
> for other exams like the CCNA and 70-291 exams. A+ and Network+ NEVER expire
> or reach 'end of life cycle'. CompTIA exams are non vendor specific, so if
> Microsoft goes belly up your credentials will still be valid. CompTIA A+ and
> Network+ together count as an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications.
>
> Cons: Not as well known as MCSE. Some people have never heard of CompTIA.
> A+ and Network+ aren't as well recognized outside of the US. The exams cost
> almost double the price of Microsoft exams. To take both A+ and the Network+
> exams will cost almost $700, ouch! The high price tag is why most MCSE's
> skip these exams.
>
> I've also taken Security+, which is a good exam and not that hard. I've
> seen test questions similar to Security+ on some Microsoft exams like 70-622
> and 70-649. This exam will help prepare you for other exams. Security+ is
> also an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications. Security+ is non vendor
> specific. If you take A+ and Network+, I also recommend that you take
> Security+. Maybe your employeer will reimburse you for the exam fees?
> Security is a big issue these days.
>
> I've also taken CompTIA i-Net+, which doesn't seem to help much unless you
> are a Webmaster. Some of the exam questions were similar to Security+ and
> some Microsoft exams. It did help me study for other exams, but I don't
> think it was really worth the exam fee. A+/Network+ and Security+ will do
> more to help you get a job than i-Net+.
>
> Ok, there is my $0.02 about CompTIA. I hope this helps.
>
> "Win.Tin....@gmail.com" wrote:
> > Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
> > rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
> > goal is in Networking?
>
> > If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+certification. I am
> > taking the second class of A+ at a local college.

If it helps any in your decision-making process, you can take a look
at information about average salaries for people with different
certifications. I saw one recently at http://careersaver.com/SalaryByCertification.asp
that compared 2006 to 2007, so that you can see the trends. The same
site (it's a cert prep company, in case you were wondering) also has
tools to show you what exams are required for each certification, so
that you can figure out what's involved in each one. Those are at
http://careersaver.com/CertificationTracks.asp
Of course, just remember what was said earlier in the thread: the
certifications get them to look your way. Make sure that you develop
the real-world skills to hold their attention.


Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by pointy_ears

pointy_ears
Tue Apr 08 11:54:27 CDT 2008

On Apr 8, 9:30 am, pointy_e...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2:31 am, Dude <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > My employer requires A+ and Network+ before you can get hired. For most
> > MCSE's though, the MCSE seems to carry more weight though. Here are the
> > pro's and con's of A+ and Network+, in my opinion.
>
> > Pros: A+ and Network+ show more experience. You might have a better chance
> > at a job overs someone who is a 'paper' MCSE. Network+ will help you prepare
> > for other exams like the CCNA and 70-291 exams. A+ and Network+ NEVER expire
> > or reach 'end of life cycle'. CompTIA exams are non vendor specific, so if
> > Microsoft goes belly up your credentials will still be valid. CompTIA A+ and
> > Network+ together count as an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications.
>
> > Cons: Not as well known as MCSE. Some people have never heard of CompTIA.
> > A+ and Network+ aren't as well recognized outside of the US. The exams cost
> > almost double the price of Microsoft exams. To take both A+ and the Network+
> > exams will cost almost $700, ouch! The high price tag is why most MCSE's
> > skip these exams.
>
> > I've also taken Security+, which is a good exam and not that hard. I've
> > seen test questions similar to Security+ on some Microsoft exams like 70-622
> > and 70-649. This exam will help prepare you for other exams. Security+ is
> > also an elective for the MCSA/MCSE certifications. Security+ is non vendor
> > specific. If you take A+ and Network+, I also recommend that you take
> > Security+. Maybe your employeer will reimburse you for the exam fees?
> > Security is a big issue these days.
>
> > I've also taken CompTIA i-Net+, which doesn't seem to help much unless you
> > are a Webmaster. Some of the exam questions were similar to Security+ and
> > some Microsoft exams. It did help me study for other exams, but I don't
> > think it was really worth the exam fee. A+/Network+ and Security+ will do
> > more to help you get a job than i-Net+.
>
> > Ok, there is my $0.02 about CompTIA. I hope this helps.
>
> > "Win.Tin....@gmail.com" wrote:
> > > Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
> > > rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
> > > goal is in Networking?
>
> > > If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+certification. I am
> > > taking the second class of A+ at a local college.
>
> If it helps any in your decision-making process, you can take a look
> at information about average salaries for people with different
> certifications. I saw one recently athttp://careersaver.com/SalaryByCertification.asp
> that compared 2006 to 2007, so that you can see the trends. The same
> site (it's a cert prep company, in case you were wondering) also has
> tools to show you what exams are required for each certification, so
> that you can figure out what's involved in each one. Those are athttp://careersaver.com/CertificationTracks.asp
> Of course, just remember what was said earlier in the thread: the
> certifications get them to look your way. Make sure that you develop
> the real-world skills to hold their attention.

Actually, after making my previous post, I noticed that the site I was
mentioning also has an article about 2008's "hottest" certifications
-- http://careersaver.com/TopCerts.asp
Sorry for my absent-mindedness in not noticing it before, but it looks
like it could also be useful in helping you decide what you want to do
with your career. Good luck.

Re: Do people who take CCNA or MCSA also take A+ certification exam? by Boris

Boris
Wed Apr 09 10:11:42 CDT 2008

I've been job hunting since last September. I notice that in my area, most
employers were requiring A+ at a minimum. I decided to start studying even
though I was sending out resumes continuously. In December I took
Essentials and in January I took the IT elective. Since I passed in
January, my return call rate from employers has dramatically increased. I'm
not necessarily "smarter". Everything on the exam I knew from my 25 years
of being an electronic tech for 3M and Kodak, but I never stopped to
actually memorized this stuff! The exam forced me to memorize a lot stuff
that is generally easy to noodle out. However, I do not regret one minute
of study. It helped to reinforce what I picked up setting up networked
medical and library machines with Windows based pc's and servers all these
years. I'm now prepping for Network+, once again, knowing a lot of the
subject already, but getting it drilled in.

Best of luck to all applicants.
"Jason Lindgren" <jlindgren@velocitystorm.com> wrote in message
news:C412B6BA.1D03%jlindgren@velocitystorm.com...
>I got A+ back around '97 or '98 I guess. It definitely helps get you headed
> in the right direction.
>
> - Jason
>
>
> On 3/25/08 9:44 PM, in article
> 5a90e1a0-584d-49fb-bfc9-62ae976b0917@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
> "Win.Tin.Mar@gmail.com" <Win.Tin.Mar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does it help to have A+ certificate (not just knowing he material) of
>> rht epurpose of job hunting in networking for someone whose career
>> goal is in Networking?
>>
>> If not necessary, I'd rather not spend money on A+ certification. I am
>> taking the second class of A+ at a local college.
>