opinions on TrainSignal cbts?

just looking for opinions on any of TrainSignal's cbts... good? bad? soso?

I just finished their DNS one and thought it was pretty good. Certianly not
enough to use as sole material for passing test (not intended for that
anyway) but I was impressed. I am thinking about getting their package deal
with *all* the windows cbt's and want to see what other people's experiences
have been with them...

to be clear as possible here, I know and am not looking for these to be a
one stop shop to pass a test. Several sources of study are required and of
course experience... what I am hoping to get are opinions from people who
have used any TrainSignal cbts on their:

1) *accuracy of information*

2) level of detail covered for subject matter

3) instructors effectiveness (clarity in communication, explaining
complicated things in easier to understand terms, good instruction etc..)

CertGuard>
Fri Dec 22 13:52:25 CST 2006



"David" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:#iidWwfJHHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> just looking for opinions on any of TrainSignal's cbts... good? bad? soso?
>
> I just finished their DNS one and thought it was pretty good. Certianly not
> enough to use as sole material for passing test (not intended for that anyway)
> but I was impressed. I am thinking about getting their package deal with *all*
> the windows cbt's and want to see what other people's experiences have been
> with them...
>
> to be clear as possible here, I know and am not looking for these to be a one
> stop shop to pass a test. Several sources of study are required and of course
> experience... what I am hoping to get are opinions from people who have used
> any TrainSignal cbts on their:
>
> 1) *accuracy of information*
>
> 2) level of detail covered for subject matter
>
> 3) instructors effectiveness (clarity in communication, explaining complicated
> things in easier to understand terms, good instruction etc..)
>
>
Well, I don't have them on either of my lists. So, I'll have to do some research
(you can find that at http://www.CertGuard.com/reviews.asp, in the near future).
From what I can tell, through just a prelim check, they appear to be ok.


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anderson_jim
Wed Jan 31 11:34:00 CST 2007

CertGuard,

That is a really interesting and informative list on your site. I'm curious
about one of the comments though. You indicate "Transcender is fast becoming
one of the top Legitimate Test Prep sites around." I don't question their
popularity, but when it comes to theire legitimacy, doesn't Microsoft have an
open suit against Transcender for using actual Microsoft test questions word
for word? Or has that been resolved?
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Consultant
Columbus, Ohio


"CertGuard" wrote:

>
>
> "David" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:#iidWwfJHHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > just looking for opinions on any of TrainSignal's cbts... good? bad? soso?
> >
> > I just finished their DNS one and thought it was pretty good. Certianly not
> > enough to use as sole material for passing test (not intended for that anyway)
> > but I was impressed. I am thinking about getting their package deal with *all*
> > the windows cbt's and want to see what other people's experiences have been
> > with them...
> >
> > to be clear as possible here, I know and am not looking for these to be a one
> > stop shop to pass a test. Several sources of study are required and of course
> > experience... what I am hoping to get are opinions from people who have used
> > any TrainSignal cbts on their:
> >
> > 1) *accuracy of information*
> >
> > 2) level of detail covered for subject matter
> >
> > 3) instructors effectiveness (clarity in communication, explaining complicated
> > things in easier to understand terms, good instruction etc..)
> >
> >
> Well, I don't have them on either of my lists. So, I'll have to do some research
> (you can find that at http://www.CertGuard.com/reviews.asp, in the near future).
> From what I can tell, through just a prelim check, they appear to be ok.
>
>
> --
> CertGuard
> You think you know IT?!?!
> http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
>
>

CertGuard>
Thu Feb 01 13:12:43 CST 2007

"Jim Anderson" <anderson_jim at Excite DotCom> wrote in message
news:60565B36-E6FB-4FFA-B5A0-ABD7AAF4904E@microsoft.com...
> CertGuard,
>
> That is a really interesting and informative list on your site. I'm curious
> about one of the comments though. You indicate "Transcender is fast becoming
> one of the top Legitimate Test Prep sites around." I don't question their
> popularity, but when it comes to theire legitimacy, doesn't Microsoft have an
> open suit against Transcender for using actual Microsoft test questions word
> for word? Or has that been resolved?
> --
> Jim Anderson, MCSD
> Consultant
> Columbus, Ohio
>
>
Jim, I don't believe they have any open lawsuits against Transcender, it may be
T3$tK!ng you're thinking of. I will double check that information and get back
to you.

Is this good: anderson_jim at Excite DotCom (didn't know Excite was still being
used ;) )

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JaR
Thu Feb 01 13:37:18 CST 2007

CertGuard wrote:
> "Jim Anderson" <anderson_jim at Excite DotCom> wrote in message
> news:60565B36-E6FB-4FFA-B5A0-ABD7AAF4904E@microsoft.com...
>
>> CertGuard,
>>
>> That is a really interesting and informative list on your site. I'm
>> curious
>> about one of the comments though. You indicate "Transcender is fast
>> becoming
>> one of the top Legitimate Test Prep sites around." I don't question their
>> popularity, but when it comes to theire legitimacy, doesn't Microsoft
>> have an
>> open suit against Transcender for using actual Microsoft test
>> questions word
>> for word? Or has that been resolved?
>> --
>> Jim Anderson, MCSD
>> Consultant
>> Columbus, Ohio
>>
>>
> Jim, I don't believe they have any open lawsuits against Transcender, it
> may be T3$tK!ng you're thinking of. I will double check that information
> and get back to you.
>

There were complaints about Trancender for illegal material several
years ago. I don't believe MS ever had a suit against them. I can find
no reference to any official action agains Transcender.

Transcender cleaned up its act and has been a good source for quite a
while now, although some still regard them as dumpers, under the
assumtion that if you once were accused of being a dump provider, you
always will be a dump provider. Microsoft, however, AFAIK, has no
problem with them now.

Transcender was chosen "Best Exam Preparation Product or Service" by
Redmond Magazine readers for 2005. Additionally, in 2004, Transcender
was selected as "Best Practice Exam" by readers of CertCities.com for
the third consecutive year.

*Disclaimer: The author neither is employed by, nor has even ever used
the above materials, having had a discounted subscription for MeasureUp
when I did my exams*

*YMMV, queue long-winded discussion about Tanscenders legitimacy here*

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BD[MCNGP]
Thu Feb 01 14:32:54 CST 2007



"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
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>
> *Disclaimer: The author neither is employed by, nor has even ever used the
> above materials, having had a discounted subscription for MeasureUp when I did
> my exams*
>
Trans-Spammer!! ;)


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CertGuard>
Thu Feb 01 14:37:48 CST 2007



"Jim Anderson" <anderson_jim at Excite DotCom> wrote in message
news:60565B36-E6FB-4FFA-B5A0-ABD7AAF4904E@microsoft.com...
> CertGuard,
>
> That is a really interesting and informative list on your site. I'm curious
> about one of the comments though. You indicate "Transcender is fast becoming
> one of the top Legitimate Test Prep sites around." I don't question their
> popularity, but when it comes to theire legitimacy, doesn't Microsoft have an
> open suit against Transcender for using actual Microsoft test questions word
> for word? Or has that been resolved?
> --
> Jim Anderson, MCSD
> Consultant
> Columbus, Ohio
>
>
Jim,

I just confirmed it. There is NO suit against Transcender. However, keep
reading...

As most of us are/were aware, Transcender was, at one time, a braindump provider
(this was back in the NT 4.0 days). Apparently they have undergone some changes
in their corporate ladder. Now, under their current ownership, they are
purportedly creating their own test preparation questions. These questions,
however, ARE being scrutinized to make sure that they (Transcender) are still
providing their own original work. Possibly because of their track record, I
would guess that they will be scrutinized for quite a while.

Thanks

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JaR
Thu Feb 01 14:40:47 CST 2007

BD[MCNGP] wrote:
>
>
> "JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
> news:#arZjhjRHHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>
>> *Disclaimer: The author neither is employed by, nor has even ever used
>> the above materials, having had a discounted subscription for
>> MeasureUp when I did my exams*
>>
> Trans-Spammer!! ;)
>
>

Ouchie!

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JaR
Thu Feb 01 14:49:05 CST 2007

CertGuard wrote:

> I just confirmed it. There is NO suit against Transcender. However, keep
> reading...
>
> As most of us are/were aware, Transcender was, at one time, a braindump
> provider (this was back in the NT 4.0 days). Apparently they have
> undergone some changes in their corporate ladder. Now, under their
> current ownership, they are purportedly creating their own test
> preparation questions. These questions, however, ARE being scrutinized
> to make sure that they (Transcender) are still providing their own
> original work. Possibly because of their track record, I would guess
> that they will be scrutinized for quite a while.
>
> Thanks
>

Isn't that what I said?

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anderson_jim
Thu Feb 01 14:56:02 CST 2007

CertGuard,

Yea, it was definitely Transcender that at one time Microsoft accused
(apparently not in a court of law) of selling actual test questions.

I'm not being critical of Transcender myself. I like them because I think
their questions are a little harder and I know if I can pass their tests I
can pass Microsoft's.

Oh, yea Excite is still alive and kicking. It's changed ownership a few
times but it is still up. I've had my email there for over ten years.
--
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Consultant
Columbus, Ohio


"CertGuard" wrote:

> "Jim Anderson" <anderson_jim at Excite DotCom> wrote in message
> news:60565B36-E6FB-4FFA-B5A0-ABD7AAF4904E@microsoft.com...
> > CertGuard,
> >
> > That is a really interesting and informative list on your site. I'm curious
> > about one of the comments though. You indicate "Transcender is fast becoming
> > one of the top Legitimate Test Prep sites around." I don't question their
> > popularity, but when it comes to theire legitimacy, doesn't Microsoft have an
> > open suit against Transcender for using actual Microsoft test questions word
> > for word? Or has that been resolved?
> > --
> > Jim Anderson, MCSD
> > Consultant
> > Columbus, Ohio
> >
> >
> Jim, I don't believe they have any open lawsuits against Transcender, it may be
> T3$tK!ng you're thinking of. I will double check that information and get back
> to you.
>
> Is this good: anderson_jim at Excite DotCom (didn't know Excite was still being
> used ;) )
>
> --
> CertGuard
> You think you know IT?!?!
> http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
>
>

catwalker63
Thu Feb 01 15:13:40 CST 2007

JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> prattled ceaselessly in
news:uxFeqJkRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> CertGuard wrote:
>
>> I just confirmed it. There is NO suit against Transcender. However,
>> keep reading...
>>
>> As most of us are/were aware, Transcender was, at one time, a
>> braindump provider (this was back in the NT 4.0 days). Apparently
>> they have undergone some changes in their corporate ladder. Now,
>> under their current ownership, they are purportedly creating their
>> own test preparation questions. These questions, however, ARE being
>> scrutinized to make sure that they (Transcender) are still providing
>> their own original work. Possibly because of their track record, I
>> would guess that they will be scrutinized for quite a while.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
> Isn't that what I said?
>

Yep. 'cept his was shorter.

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JaR
Thu Feb 01 16:06:07 CST 2007

catwalker63 wrote:
>>
>>Isn't that what I said?
>>
>
>
> Yep. 'cept his was shorter.
>

Foo.

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CertGuard>
Thu Feb 01 17:24:21 CST 2007



"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
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>
> Isn't that what I said?
>
Yes, but I confirmed it.

Everyone loves confirmation.

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CertGuard>
Thu Feb 01 17:25:47 CST 2007



"catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98CA868FEA26Ecatwalker63athotmail@216.196.97.136...
>
> Yep. 'cept his was shorter.
>
Hey now......
















....what'd I tells ya 'boot lettin' that info out?!



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JaR
Thu Feb 01 17:55:43 CST 2007

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:24:21 -0600, CertGuard cast into the ether:

>
>
> "JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
> news:uxFeqJkRHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Isn't that what I said?
>>
> Yes, but I confirmed it.
>
> Everyone loves confirmation.

Oh! Well then, thanks!

I feel so validated.

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Neil
Fri Feb 02 07:56:43 CST 2007

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in news:#arZjhjRHHA.3316
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> There were complaints about Trancender for illegal material several
> years ago. I don't believe MS ever had a suit against them. I can find
> no reference to any official action agains Transcender.
>
> Transcender cleaned up its act and has been a good source for quite a
> while now, although some still regard them as dumpers, under the
> assumtion that if you once were accused of being a dump provider, you
> always will be a dump provider. Microsoft, however, AFAIK, has no
> problem with them now.
>
> Transcender was chosen "Best Exam Preparation Product or Service" by
> Redmond Magazine readers for 2005. Additionally, in 2004, Transcender
> was selected as "Best Practice Exam" by readers of CertCities.com for
> the third consecutive year.
>
> *Disclaimer: The author neither is employed by, nor has even ever used
> the above materials, having had a discounted subscription for MeasureUp
> when I did my exams*
>
> *YMMV, queue long-winded discussion about Tanscenders legitimacy here*

I find it interesting that for someone who has never used the product, you
do seem to have a keen interest in them. ;)

I agree that Transgender were pretty much dumps back in the NT 4 days but
that they have cleaned up. They also are now owned by the same company as
Self Test Software (the only other "approved" MS exam prep company)
IIRC....pause to check....YUP! Kaplan IT owns both.

And now, Kline should begin the complaint that they are dumpers and I will
promptly tell him "whatever"

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- This sentence is false.

JaR
Fri Feb 02 11:07:12 CST 2007

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:56:43 -0800, Neil cast into the ether:

> I find it interesting that for someone who has never used the product, you
> do seem to have a keen interest in them. ;)

I'm hoping for a nice gratuity to be credited to my PayPal account shortly.

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catwalker63
Fri Feb 02 12:46:44 CST 2007

Neil prattled ceaselessly:

<snip>
>
> And now, Kline should begin the complaint that they are dumpers and I will
> promptly tell him "whatever"
>

Hey, that's my line!!


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Neil
Fri Feb 02 13:19:22 CST 2007

did you hear catwalker63 <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> say in news:j8-
dnZ59Z-qIGl7YnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com:

> Hey, that's my line!!

whatever

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Neil
Fri Feb 02 13:19:06 CST 2007

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2007.02.02.17.07.12.569905@lakabux.com:

>
> I'm hoping for a nice gratuity to be credited to my PayPal account
> shortly.

and I'm hoping that my rich distant relative that I've never met and
didn't know existed will die and leave me a fortune.

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JaR
Fri Feb 02 13:57:53 CST 2007

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:19:06 -0800, Neil cast into the ether:

> did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
> news:pan.2007.02.02.17.07.12.569905@lakabux.com:
>
>>
>> I'm hoping for a nice gratuity to be credited to my PayPal account
>> shortly.
>
> and I'm hoping that my rich distant relative that I've never met and
> didn't know existed will die and leave me a fortune.

I have one of those, too.

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Neil
Sat Feb 03 07:10:08 CST 2007

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2007.02.02.19.57.50.684731@lakabux.com:

> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:19:06 -0800, Neil cast into the ether:
>
>> did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
>> news:pan.2007.02.02.17.07.12.569905@lakabux.com:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm hoping for a nice gratuity to be credited to my PayPal account
>>> shortly.
>>
>> and I'm hoping that my rich distant relative that I've never met and
>> didn't know existed will die and leave me a fortune.
>
> I have one of those, too.
>

you mean a fantasy?

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JaR
Mon Feb 05 11:02:35 CST 2007

On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 05:10:08 -0800, Neil cast into the ether:

> did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
> news:pan.2007.02.02.19.57.50.684731@lakabux.com:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:19:06 -0800, Neil cast into the ether:
>>
>>> did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
>>> news:pan.2007.02.02.17.07.12.569905@lakabux.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping for a nice gratuity to be credited to my PayPal account
>>>> shortly.
>>>
>>> and I'm hoping that my rich distant relative that I've never met and
>>> didn't know existed will die and leave me a fortune.
>>
>> I have one of those, too.
>>
>
> you mean a fantasy?

And a lovely one it is, too!

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