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    - Re: Want MSDN access? Talk to me! On Nov 18, 2005 at 12:18pm "Consultant" blathered: > yeah, maybe i can pay you to slam my wife too? ya jagass PotD -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com 1 + 1 = 3, for large values of 1 Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178777
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations Briscobar <youcant@sendmespam.com> said something like > # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\178233.htm (11/18/2005 > 3:55:58 PM) # wgates@dell.com <wgates@dell.com> rambled: >> >> Been looking lately at some products like Testking, Actualtests, >> Certificationking and found so many questions duplicated by each >> company. Obviously its pointless buying the same exam sets eg 70 270 >> from all three. >> Do they get their questions from MS? >> Do MS sell their past questions to Joe Public? >> How often is a set of questions at a given test centre "recycled"? >> Surely not all the questions over several years can be unique? >> Most important of course can anyone recommend the most cost effective >> way to get sample exams with explanations for the answers? >> Many thanks, >> WG > > Alright, I'm not going to flame you, as I am wont to do. Because it > seems you're asking a genuine question, not knowing the answer, as > opposed to trying to sway us into believing that TestKings are good. > Here's the skinny: > > TestKing, Actualtest, and any derivitave thereof ARE actual exam > questions. And they DO come from Microsoft - but not legally. What > happens is these idiots pay people to take the tests and write down > the questions, word for word, and what they think is the answer. Then > they publish these, trying to prey on peoples' greed. There is no > simpler way to say it: This is cheating. This is not condoned by > Microsoft, nor any well-intentioned MCP or MCP-to-be. They are nothing > more than the lazy way out. They attempt to allow you to skirt actual > testing, studying, and more testing. And they probably do a fine job. > However, once you get out in the real world, you won't know how > anything works, just that it does. Fat, dumb, and stupid is no way to > go through life. > > So, any website offering you a 100% passing guarantee or real exam > questions should be avoided. Tools such as MeasureUp and Transcenders, > along with Sybex and MSPress books seem to all get good reviews, and > are not cheating. > Mr. Briscobar, that is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out explanation. Overruled! It's turtles all the way down. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178776
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:43pm "Briscobar" blathered: > Minimum security prison I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's a$$ the first day, or become somebody's b1tch. Then everything will be alright. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com There are two kinds of people in the world, those that think there are two kinds of people in the world, and those that know better. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178775
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    - Re: Want MSDN access? Talk to me! "TechGeekPro" <%username%@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9712ACE69B35tgp@127.0.0.1... > On Nov 18, 2005 at 12:18pm "Consultant" blathered: > >> yeah, maybe i can pay you to slam my wife too? ya jagass > > PotD Wholeheartedly seconded. -- Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S. MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?) "Place your bet - Ah say - place your bets, gentlemen. Winnner plays, loser stays. Everyone's a winne - well, not everyone." - F. Leghorn Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178774
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, kpg spewed across the ether: > TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> said something like > >> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\178244.htm (11/18/2005 >> 3:58:32 PM) # On Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41am "kpg" blathered: >> >>> needs to read Moby Dick >> >> I'm still waiting for the movie to come out. > > > It already did. > > > The book is better. > Yup. With Gregory Peck as Ahab. Dunno who played the whale... -- JaR MCNGP 10110 Remove hat to reply What did you do to the cat? It looks half-dead. -- Schroedinger's wife Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178773
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, TechGeekPro spewed across the ether: > How about "Superfluous". Well, sure. At least it would be now! -- JaR MCNGP 10110 Remove hat to reply Not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance, is the death of knowledge. ~Alfred North Whitehead Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178772
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:57pm "kpg" blathered: > that is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out explanation. He must've accidentally posted to the wrong newsgroup. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178771
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:35pm "Frisbee®" blathered: > It's turtles all the way down. Yes, the old lady was right. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com New systems generate new problems. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178770
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    - RE:MCSE Exam Simulations On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:29pm "" blathered: > <snipped> That has got to be the worst troll I've ever seen. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Mr. Osborne, may I be excused? My brain is full. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178769
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> rambled: > > On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:43pm "Briscobar" blathered: > >> Minimum security prison > > I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's > a$$ the first day, or become somebody's b1tch. Then everything will > be alright. Good good. Only a couple words off. You may need a refresher course, so I dug this up for you: http://blake.prohosting.com/bamzone/office_space_transcript.html I could spend all day every day reading it and playing the movie back in my head. -- KB MCNGP #26 www.mgnpc.mco makes fun fo dylsexics. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178768
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 18, 2005 at 5:19pm "Briscobar" blathered: > TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> rambled: >> >> On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:43pm "Briscobar" blathered: >> >>> Minimum security prison >> >> I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's >> a$$ the first day, or become somebody's b1tch. Then everything will >> be alright. > > Good good. Only a couple words off. You may need a refresher course, so I > dug this up for you: > > http://blake.prohosting.com/bamzone/office_space_transcript.html > > I could spend all day every day reading it and playing the movie back in my > head. A thousand apologies. Both IMDB and quotations.about.com quote it that way. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com I'm out! I'm out of the contest. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178767
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?Utf-8?B?Zm1zbWNzZQ==?= spewed across the ether: > That's exactly the issue, the client is in a remote site and the lease > has not expired. > For sure if the link is down, it should keep it's address until it > expires, one MUST consider the leasing time. Wrong. If it tries to connect and cannot, it will instead assign itself an APIPA. When it finally is able to get an ACK from DHCP, it may be leased the same addy or another, depending on your network. If it is important that this box not change it's address, then you should assign it a static IP. -- JaR MCNGP 10110 Remove hat to reply The gene pool could use a little chlorine. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178766
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    - Re: RE:MCSE Exam Simulations MitchS <networkyoda@nospam.gmail.com> rambled: > > Would this be a good target for some certain someone? Usually yeah, but I'm getting this innocent vibe from the OP. I think it may be better for a "certain someone" to wait for the next definite dumper. It shouldn't be too long now. -- KB MCNGP #26 www.mcngp.com will kill you! No, not! Only kidding! Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178765
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    - Ping: Frisbee MR FRIS SIR PLEASE BE POSTING WHERE I MAY BE DOWNLOADING YOUR LATEST EMAIL ADDY. WE HAVE SUPER SEKRIT FORUMS FOR YOU TO BE AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. I BE THANKING YOU FOR KINDLY DOING THE NEEDFUL. MR TGP GUY -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com Be sure to check out MCNGP.net. "It's dot com!" Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178764
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    - Re: OT: Friday sweetness "Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message news:O855ESF7FHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > Thanks. Oh yeah, there is definitely a pay raise. Not one to discuss it > here, but let's just say the preliminary numbers were significant. On top > of > paying for classes, and a raise when I finish class. So yeah, pay raise. > Of > course, there's added responsibility, but eh, it comes with the > territory... Responsibility is BAD. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178763
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    - Re: Sorry to have bother you all In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Ed spewed across the ether: > I came to this newsgroup believing it to be related Microsoft > certification, opps my bad! I guess MCSE must mean something else to > you under 5's out there, so I'm sorry to have troubled you. Anyway you > all take care now and remember to brush your teeth before you go to > bed at 8pm tonight! Oh dear. An unsatisfied visitor. Whatever shall we do? Ohhh, GOOD sigmonster! -- JaR MCNGP 10110 Remove hat to reply A few minutes ago I attempted to give a flying fsck, but the best I could do was to watch it skitter across the floor. Anthony de Boer) Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178762
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue In article <CAA1EFA5-8E6B-4902-BEC7-6C7117FF2046@microsoft.com>, SiqueiraFelipe@discussions.microsoft.com says... > Hi all, hope someone has seen this freaking trouble. > > I have a central DHCP server in the main site and many remote sites. > The leasing time is 10 days. A computer got an IP address at day 1 and at > the day 2 the link went down for some hours. > > For some reason, this client had to reboot, and as per the theory, the > machine should keep the address for more 8 days, until the 10th, but when I > reboots it releases the IP address and get itself an APIPA address.... > > Has someone gone through that??? > > Thanks. > What happens if you plug the computer into a jack that you know receives addresses? Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178761
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue I'm sorry...?? "Ben Smith" wrote: > In article <CAA1EFA5-8E6B-4902-BEC7-6C7117FF2046@microsoft.com>, > SiqueiraFelipe@discussions.microsoft.com says... > > Hi all, hope someone has seen this freaking trouble. > > > > I have a central DHCP server in the main site and many remote sites. > > The leasing time is 10 days. A computer got an IP address at day 1 and at > > the day 2 the link went down for some hours. > > > > For some reason, this client had to reboot, and as per the theory, the > > machine should keep the address for more 8 days, until the 10th, but when I > > reboots it releases the IP address and get itself an APIPA address.... > > > > Has someone gone through that??? > > > > Thanks. > > > > What happens if you plug the computer into a jack that you know receives > addresses? > Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178760
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    - Re: Sorry to have bother you all another lost to the "Dark Side"... Maybe he was the chosen one? "Ed" <#> wrote in message news:11nsif45j73mee0@corp.supernews.com... >I came to this newsgroup believing it to be related Microsoft >certification, opps my bad! I guess MCSE must mean something else to you >under 5's out there, so I'm sorry to have troubled you. Anyway you all take >care now and remember to brush your teeth before you go to bed at 8pm >tonight! > > Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178759
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue Ok, gotcha, but what if I tell you that I stopped the DHCP service and rebooted 5 machines, 2 2k and 3 XP and only one XP got itself an APIPA address, all the other kept their addresses as per the leasing period. How do you explain all being rebooted and just one doing what you said it's supposed to do? I'm NOT saying you are mistaken, I'm just asking you a question. Besides, I've not found a clue in the MS documentation regarding your point, stating the client would release the IP if it can not contact the DHCP server, could you provide it? Again, I just want help, I'm do not want to get into a "fight". Tx. "LRM" wrote: > Ok, you have a remote pc receiving dhcp addresses from a dhcp server. The > link goes down. While the link is down a pc has been rebooted. Well, it will > not keep it's dhcp address because it will not have a DHCP server to tell it > that the address is still leased to it. So it will try to ask for one and > will not receive one and will give itself the APIPA address. The lease is > only important if the machine isn't rebooted. So, earlier, when the other > posters kept saying it couldn't see the dhcp server and that was the point. > The other pc's kept their addresses because they hadn't rebooted. > Run ipconfig /renew on the pc and all should be well as long as you don't > have any issues with the card or other network devices between the pc and > the dhcp server. > > -- > LRM > > > "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1171F898-B417-4E18-BAEA-68965F97ED81@microsoft.com... > > That's exactly the issue, the client is in a remote site and the lease has > > not expired. > > For sure if the link is down, it should keep it's address until it > > expires, > > one MUST consider the leasing time. > > > > "JaR" wrote: > > > >> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?Utf-8?B?Zm1zbWNzZQ==?= spewed > >> across the ether: > >> > >> > >> > Yes, it can't find the net, but it should keep the IP until the lease > >> > expires if it couldn't contact the DHCP at 50% and 87,5% of the total > >> > time for the end of the lease. > >> > >> Forget about the lease. If the client is giving itself an APIPA, it can't > >> see the DHCP server for some reason. > >> > >> -- > >> JaR > >> MCNGP 10110 > >> Remove hat to reply > >> You can see a lot by just looking. ~Yogi Berra > >> > > > Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178758
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue On Nov 18, 2005 at 9:23pm "LRM" blathered: > Ok, you have a remote pc receiving dhcp addresses from a dhcp server. > The link goes down. While the link is down a pc has been rebooted. Well, > it will not keep it's dhcp address because it will not have a DHCP > server to tell it that the address is still leased to it. So it will try > to ask for one and will not receive one and will give itself the APIPA > address. The lease is only important if the machine isn't rebooted. So, > earlier, when the other posters kept saying it couldn't see the dhcp > server and that was the point. The other pc's kept their addresses > because they hadn't rebooted. Run ipconfig /renew on the pc and all > should be well as long as you don't have any issues with the card or > other network devices between the pc and the dhcp server. Well put. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.techgeekpro.com It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178757
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    - Re: Sorry to have bother you all "Ed" <#> wrote in news:11nsif45j73mee0@corp.supernews.com: > I came to this newsgroup believing it to be related Microsoft > certification, opps my bad! I guess MCSE must mean something else to > you under 5's out there, so I'm sorry to have troubled you. Anyway you > all take care now and remember to brush your teeth before you go to > bed at 8pm tonight! > > yes. it did come with fries but someone ate the long ones. -- Rowdy Yates, MCNGP Thug #39 http://www.mcngp.com/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178756
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8A2A00D1-0C26-4652-A4F2-93D59DA563C4@microsoft.com... > Ok, gotcha, but what if I tell you that I stopped the DHCP service and > rebooted 5 machines, 2 2k and 3 XP and only one XP got itself an APIPA A client will try to renew it's address when it is restarted, when ipconfig /renew is issued or when it reaches 50% of it's lease duration. If it fails during the last it will try again at 87% of the lease duration. > all the other kept their addresses as per the leasing period. This would not be likely. What is most likely occuring is that an alternate cofiguration has been added to the machines that seem to be renewing sans the DHCP server. I have had to do this in some really trashed networks to provide addresses for clients while fixing a DHCP server. > > How do you explain all being rebooted and just one doing what you said > it's > supposed to do? I can't explain why your clients aren't doing what they are supposed to be doing without more information. > Besides, I've not found a clue in the MS documentation regarding your > point, > stating the client would release the IP if it can not contact the DHCP > server, could you provide it? The client in a restart is requesting a renewal, it is not issuing a release. >Again, I just want help, I'm do not want to get > into a "fight". Check out this site and see if it helps: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/e n-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-u s/prjj_ipa_mbhh.asp LRM Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178755
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue Ok, you have a remote pc receiving dhcp addresses from a dhcp server. The link goes down. While the link is down a pc has been rebooted. Well, it will not keep it's dhcp address because it will not have a DHCP server to tell it that the address is still leased to it. So it will try to ask for one and will not receive one and will give itself the APIPA address. The lease is only important if the machine isn't rebooted. So, earlier, when the other posters kept saying it couldn't see the dhcp server and that was the point. The other pc's kept their addresses because they hadn't rebooted. Run ipconfig /renew on the pc and all should be well as long as you don't have any issues with the card or other network devices between the pc and the dhcp server. -- LRM "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1171F898-B417-4E18-BAEA-68965F97ED81@microsoft.com... > That's exactly the issue, the client is in a remote site and the lease has > not expired. > For sure if the link is down, it should keep it's address until it > expires, > one MUST consider the leasing time. > > "JaR" wrote: > >> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?Utf-8?B?Zm1zbWNzZQ==?= spewed >> across the ether: >> >> >> > Yes, it can't find the net, but it should keep the IP until the lease >> > expires if it couldn't contact the DHCP at 50% and 87,5% of the total >> > time for the end of the lease. >> >> Forget about the lease. If the client is giving itself an APIPA, it can't >> see the DHCP server for some reason. >> >> -- >> JaR >> MCNGP 10110 >> Remove hat to reply >> You can see a lot by just looking. ~Yogi Berra >> Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178754
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    - Re: Please Post More "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in news:e76YZ9G7FHA.444 @TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl: > This group is too inactive, and not enough knowledge is being shared. > > Please post more! > >:) > > MCGPGLMNOP #1 > > more. -- Rowdy Yates, MCNGP Thug #39 http://www.mcngp.com/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178753
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    - Re: MCSE Exam Simulations >Alright, I'm not going to flame you, as I am wont to do. Because it seems >you're asking a genuine question, not knowing the answer, as opposed to >trying to sway us into believing that TestKings are good. Here's the skinny: > >TestKing, Actualtest, and any derivitave thereof ARE actual exam questions. >And they DO come from Microsoft - but not legally. What happens is these >idiots pay people to take the tests and write down the questions, word for >word, and what they think is the answer. Then they publish these, trying to >prey on peoples' greed. There is no simpler way to say it: This is cheating. Many thanks for the lucid intelligent reply. I am not trying to cheat and have no need to. When I attained a BSc from London University years ago that "revered institution" sold their own exam papers from previous years and probably still does. Does this not happen Stateside? That is all I am asking for - how can reading past papers be cheating? I have it on good advice that half the struggle with MS exams is grappling with the devious way in which the questions are composed, not the material itself. And yes I have read study guides, user manuals and gained years of experience in IT. This is not the first time I have come across posters who make rash and rapid assumptions about people - did I say Testking were any good? That's three questions in this post BTW but I don't think its me that's wasting space here OK fourth one - if these cowboys are selling answers written down by paid "sitters" is that why so many of the answers in their prodcuts are crap or at best highly debatable?! Thus he spake: " who climbs a hill without first knowing how steep is the hill?". Does a rhetorical question count? I'm losing count here. (Answer: A Turtle) Honest Joe Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178752
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue That happens to 5 out of 100 machines and I've checked for alternate IP configs and there's nothing configured. The question is, why do these 5 clients only always release they IP? "LRM" wrote: > > > "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:8A2A00D1-0C26-4652-A4F2-93D59DA563C4@microsoft.com... > > Ok, gotcha, but what if I tell you that I stopped the DHCP service and > > rebooted 5 machines, 2 2k and 3 XP and only one XP got itself an APIPA > > A client will try to renew it's address when it is restarted, > when ipconfig /renew is issued or when it reaches 50% of it's lease > duration. If it fails during the last it will try again at 87% of the lease > duration. > > > all the other kept their addresses as per the leasing period. > > This would not be likely. What is most likely occuring is that an alternate > cofiguration has been added to the machines that seem to be renewing sans > the DHCP server. I have had to do this in some really trashed networks to > provide addresses for clients while fixing a DHCP server. > > > > How do you explain all being rebooted and just one doing what you said > > it's > > supposed to do? > > I can't explain why your clients aren't doing what they are supposed to be > doing without more information. > > > Besides, I've not found a clue in the MS documentation regarding your > > point, > > stating the client would release the IP if it can not contact the DHCP > > server, could you provide it? > > The client in a restart is requesting a renewal, it is not issuing a > release. > > >Again, I just want help, I'm do not want to get > > into a "fight". > > Check out this site and see if it helps: > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/e n-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-u s/prjj_ipa_mbhh.asp > > LRM > > > Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178751
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    - Re: MCSE Exam Simulations <wgates@dell.com> wrote in message news:s3aun1l47021m63dmffi3lli2qs76soc3c@4ax.com... > Many thanks for the lucid intelligent reply. I am not trying to cheat > and have no need to. Good, but it seems that that is not always the case. >When I attained a BSc from London University > years ago that "revered institution" sold their own exam papers from > previous years and probably still does. Does this not happen > Stateside? Probably, but I never have paid for them. >That is all I am asking for - how can reading past papers > be cheating? It wouldn't be if Microsoft were the one's offering them up and they were questions that weren't going to be asked again. But that is not the case. >I have it on good advice that half the struggle with MS > exams is grappling with the devious way in which the questions are > composed, not the material itself. Not true, the questions as far as I have experienced aren't really devious at all. Sometimes they are very complex and you have to know the subject extremely well to answer them appropriately. That would be the point of the test, to measure knowledge of the product. > And yes I have read study guides, user manuals and gained years of > experience in IT. This is not the first time I have come across > posters who make rash and rapid assumptions about people - did I say > Testking were any good? No, you didn't. But, A$$FUSKRS don't usually make a point about which is good and which is bad. They are just interested in passing the tests in the easiest way possible. You do not seem to be one of them. I am sorry I didn't notice that first. I'm kinda knew here. > That's three questions in this post BTW but I don't think its me > that's wasting space here Now what does that mean exactly? > OK fourth one - if these cowboys are selling answers written down by > paid "sitters" is that why so many of the answers in their prodcuts > are crap or at best highly debatable?! Yes, that's why, and I have forgotten, did someone earlier say that or is this something you have noticed by acquiring these products? Oh, the most cost effective way to prepare yourself is really to build a network as cheaply as possible and use material from your local library and the mountain of documentation that comes with the the product in the help and support center. Classes are good if you don't know a certain aspect of the product. My downfall is still RRAS. I purchased a fifty dollar book that I could use at work and to help study and build the test environment as though I didn't have anything but windows machines and layer 2 switches. Seems weird, but it is Microsoft's product and their test I'm taking so, that's why I'm doing it. > Does a rhetorical question count? I'm losing count here. Ask all the questions you want, but, you may not always like the answers. > (Answer: A Turtle) I think the answer here is: it's turles all the way down. LRM When they have taken everything all you have left is your honor Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178750
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    - Re: Leasing Time Issue Again these five clients aren't releasing the ip, they are unable to renew it or receive acknowledgement of a leased ip. Something else on your network could be providing dhcp. A router that is dhcp enabled or a rogue dhcp server could be doing it. So, between yesterday and today you have had your dhcp server service stopped and you have rebooted 100 clients to test this theory?--And you have checked all 100 machines for alternate configurations? You might want to post in the windows networking group next. -- LRM "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D55F10B0-84AF-48AB-A23B-DE97CD14ECFD@microsoft.com... > That happens to 5 out of 100 machines and I've checked for alternate IP > configs and there's nothing configured. > > The question is, why do these 5 clients only always release they IP? > > "LRM" wrote: > >> >> >> "fmsmcse" <fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:8A2A00D1-0C26-4652-A4F2-93D59DA563C4@microsoft.com... >> > Ok, gotcha, but what if I tell you that I stopped the DHCP service and >> > rebooted 5 machines, 2 2k and 3 XP and only one XP got itself an APIPA >> >> A client will try to renew it's address when it is restarted, >> when ipconfig /renew is issued or when it reaches 50% of it's lease >> duration. If it fails during the last it will try again at 87% of the >> lease >> duration. >> >> > all the other kept their addresses as per the leasing period. >> >> This would not be likely. What is most likely occuring is that an >> alternate >> cofiguration has been added to the machines that seem to be renewing sans >> the DHCP server. I have had to do this in some really trashed networks to >> provide addresses for clients while fixing a DHCP server. >> > >> > How do you explain all being rebooted and just one doing what you said >> > it's >> > supposed to do? >> >> I can't explain why your clients aren't doing what they are supposed to >> be >> doing without more information. >> >> > Besides, I've not found a clue in the MS documentation regarding your >> > point, >> > stating the client would release the IP if it can not contact the DHCP >> > server, could you provide it? >> >> The client in a restart is requesting a renewal, it is not issuing a >> release. >> >> >Again, I just want help, I'm do not want to get >> > into a "fight". >> >> Check out this site and see if it helps: >> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/e n-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-u s/prjj_ipa_mbhh.asp >> >> LRM >> >> >> Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178749
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    - Re: Trying to sit for 70-290 "SJ" <no@nono.lol> schreef in bericht news:y4%cf.14432$aV6.274108@weber.videotron.net... > take a break, relax, try again later. > > "Mohamed Shafiee" <shafee_mohamed@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:ONzrPTh5FHA.2716@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to do the 70-290 exam... but I just keep on failing in all my >> practice exams... What am I going to do? >> I already have a test lab environment setup... Can anyone please help me? >> >> Shafiee. >> > > Hi. I've done 3 practice exams, scored 600 points the most. Last friday I went for the real thing. I passed with a score of 769 points. :) Grtz. MF. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178748
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    - IIS Limits Hello we have several websites we like to limit the users to upload or using the Hard disk space like upto 3GB, is there any tool to monitor or control this activities? Thanks Gopi Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178747
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    - Re: clustering exam At least this MCNGP was useful this time This is better than the usual useless pointless sarcasm "JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message news:Xns971193F4E1863Misanthrope@207.46.248.16... > In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Jex spewed across the ether: > >> It seem that the mighty MCNGPs do not have an answer >> > > Is Google broke on your machine? "clustering exam for Windows 2003" > (without quotes)returned: > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/chats/trans/training/mcsa0911 .ms > px > > Q: Will clustering solutions be offered as an elective as it was under > MCSE > 2000? If so, when can we expect the test to become available? > A: Currently, the Clustering exam (70-223) counts only toward the MCSE on > Microsoft Windows 2000 track. We do not currently have a clustering exam > for the Windows Server 2003 track. We will announce at a later date > if/when > an exam becomes available. > > http://mcpmag.com/examguide/allexamsdetails.asp?exam_select=173 (look at > 70-293 > > Sorry, that's all the research I'm prepared to do for you today. > > -- > JaR > MCNGP 10110 > Remove hat to reply > Democracy is three wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178746
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    - Save 20%! Use voucher: MSUU4C2E5280 for 20% Discount on MCP certification exams! INSTRUCTIONS: a.. Register for your discounted exam online at www.pearsonvue.com/ms, in person at your nearest Pearson VUE® Test Center (visit www.pearsonvue.com/ms for a list of test centers in your area), or call them at 1-800-TEST-REG (800-837-8734). b.. Use this valuable voucher number: MSUU4C2E5280. You must present/enter the above voucher number at the time of registration. c.. Voucher may be used on ANY Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) exam(s), and may be used multiple times!! d.. For more info go to: www.zwitterion.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- a.. Exams must be registered and delivered by December 31, 2005 b.. Redeem your voucher via phone (1-800-TEST-REG), online (www.pearsonvue.com/ms), or in person at your local Pearson VUE Authorized Center. c.. Voucher may not be combined with other offers, has no cash value, and may not be transferred or sold. d.. Sorry, valid only in the United States. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178745
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    - Re: IIS Limits Gopi wrote: > Hello > > we have several websites > we like to limit the users to upload or using the Hard disk space > like upto 3GB, > is there any tool to monitor or control this activities? You mean like the disk quotas system that is built into Windows 2000 & 2003 and works perfectly well with websites, providing you assign each user their own Windows account and which you can find out lots of information about in the help file? Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178744
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    - Re: IIS Limits What this group needs is a bit of sarcasm :-) ..kurt "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+msnews@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23ucvz%23d7FHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > Gopi wrote: >> Hello >> >> we have several websites >> we like to limit the users to upload or using the Hard disk space >> like upto 3GB, >> is there any tool to monitor or control this activities? > > You mean like the disk quotas system that is built into Windows 2000 & > 2003 and works perfectly well with websites, providing you assign each > user their own Windows account and which you can find out lots of > information about in the help file? > Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178743
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 18, 2005 at 5:19pm "Briscobar" blathered: > TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> rambled: >> >> On Nov 18, 2005 at 4:43pm "Briscobar" blathered: >> >>> Minimum security prison >> >> I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's >> a$$ the first day, or become somebody's b1tch. Then everything will >> be alright. > > Good good. Only a couple words off. You may need a refresher course, so > I dug this up for you: > > http://blake.prohosting.com/bamzone/office_space_transcript.html > > I could spend all day every day reading it and playing the movie back in > my head. I read through part of this page and I must say Bris 'ole buddy, your script, she is poo. Here's an example: BOB SLYDELL Believe me, this is hypocritical. But what if you were offered some kind of stock option and equity sharing program? IMDB's version: Bob Slydell: What if - and believe me this is hypothetical - but what if you were offered some kind of a stock option equity sharing program. Would that do anything for you? "Hypocritical"? C'mon. I mean really. Or how about: BOB SLYDELL Uh, we should move on to a Peter Gibbons. I had a chance to meet this young man and boy does he have Straight to Upper Management written all over him. IMDB's version: Bob Slydell: I'd like to move us right to Peter Gibbons. We had a chance to meet this young man, and boy that's just a straight shooter with upper management written all over him. Do I even need to comment on this one? Last, but not least: MILTON Excuse me. Excuse me, Senor. May I speak to you please? I asked for a mai tai, a margarita, and a pina colada. I asked for no salt, no salt in the margarita. But it had salt in it. (the waiter leaves) If you do that again, I won't be leaving a tip. I won't be putting one down. Sir? I could check into a competing resort... What happened to "big grains of salt"? Huh? Well? Ohhh... here it is, in IMDB's version:: Milton Waddams: Excuse me? Excuse me, senor? May I speak to you please? I asked for a mai tai, and they brought me a pina colada, and I said no salt, NO salt on the margarita, but it had salt on it, big grains of salt, floating in the glass... So, um... yeah, if you could just go ahead and get your facts straight the next time you try to "call me out", that would be great. I'd hate for rev to have to burn this place down. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.mcngp.com Mr. Osborne, may I be excused? My brain is full. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178742
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    - Re: clustering exam On Nov 19, 2005 at 5:40pm "Jex" blathered: > This is better than the usual useless pointless sarcasm I would contend that sarcasm is never pointless. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.mcngp.com The worst thing about censorship is [deleted]. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178741
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts Hmm... haven't looked at IMDB in a while. Where are the scripts? "TechGeekPro" <%username%@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns97141CB1B55Ftgp@127.0.0.1... > I read through part of this page and I must say Bris 'ole buddy, > your script, she is poo. > > Here's an example: > > BOB SLYDELL > Believe me, this is hypocritical. But what if you were offered some > kind of stock option and equity sharing program? > > IMDB's version: > > Bob Slydell: What if - and believe me this is hypothetical - but what if > you were offered some kind of a stock option equity sharing program. Would > that do anything for you? > > "Hypocritical"? C'mon. I mean really. > > Or how about: > > BOB SLYDELL > Uh, we should move on to a Peter Gibbons. I had a chance to meet this > young man and boy does he have Straight to Upper Management written all > over him. > > IMDB's version: > > Bob Slydell: I'd like to move us right to Peter Gibbons. We had a chance > to meet this young man, and boy that's just a straight shooter with upper > management written all over him. > > Do I even need to comment on this one? > > Last, but not least: > > MILTON > Excuse me. Excuse me, Senor. May I speak to you please? I asked for a > mai tai, a margarita, and a pina colada. I asked for no salt, no salt > in the margarita. But it had salt in it. (the waiter leaves) If you do > that again, I won't be leaving a tip. I won't be putting one down. Sir? > I could check into a competing resort... > > What happened to "big grains of salt"? Huh? Well? > > Ohhh... here it is, in IMDB's version:: > > Milton Waddams: Excuse me? Excuse me, senor? May I speak to you please? I > asked for a mai tai, and they brought me a pina colada, and I said no > salt, NO salt on the margarita, but it had salt on it, big grains of salt, > floating in the glass... > > So, um... yeah, if you could just go ahead and get your facts straight the > next time you try to "call me out", that would be great. I'd hate for rev > to have to burn this place down. > > -- > TGP MCNGP #100100 > http://www.mcngp.com > Mr. Osborne, may I be excused? My brain is full. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178740
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    - Best order to take cert exams? (Exam 70-270): Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows XP Professional Is this the first test I should take? What's usually the best order to take them? Thanks Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178739
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    - Re: Please Post More "Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates@upyours.com> wrote in message news:Xns9712F222A6DC4rowdyyates2124@207.46.248.16... > "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in news:e76YZ9G7FHA.444 > @TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl: > >> This group is too inactive, and not enough knowledge is being shared. >> >> Please post more! >> >>:) >> >> MCGPGLMNOP #1 >> >> > > more. Thank you, Rowdy, for sharing your "knowledge". Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178738
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    - RE: Best order to take cert exams? I'd recommend you to test your knowledge before taking any given exam. In my case, I went to Client exam, then Server, then Networking and then Designs. Hope it helps. "leegold" wrote: > (Exam 70-270): Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows > XP Professional > > Is this the first test I should take? > > What's usually the best order to take them? > > Thanks > > > Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178737
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    - Re: locate.exe In article <#8akH9g7FHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, gopigopi@hotmail.com says... > hello > in our network, several system affect by virus and i went on safe mode and > edit the registry, delete the values (locate.exe and hpws.exe) restart and > its works fine. > > after sometime, it affected again. (i cannot edit the registry or anything) > again i have to go thro safe mode. > > we are using Etrust Antivirus server, is there anyway to clean this? several > servers affected with this, and all are having up to date microsoft patches. > > Thanks > Gopi > > > This may help: http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178736
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    - RE: locate.exe Searching Google I found this info, hope it helps: http://info.ahnlab.com/securityinfo/virus_view_eng_new.jsp?SEQ_NO=2085 "Gopi" wrote: > hello > in our network, several system affect by virus and i went on safe mode and > edit the registry, delete the values (locate.exe and hpws.exe) restart and > its works fine. > > after sometime, it affected again. (i cannot edit the registry or anything) > again i have to go thro safe mode. > > we are using Etrust Antivirus server, is there anyway to clean this? several > servers affected with this, and all are having up to date microsoft patches. > > Thanks > Gopi > > > Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178735
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    - Re: Best order to take cert exams? On Nov 20, 2005 at 12:43pm "leegold" blathered: > (Exam 70-270): Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows > XP Professional Thanks for sharing. > Is this the first test I should take? Probably. > What's usually the best order to take them? I would start with the first one and then work my way toward the last. > Thanks Welcome. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.mcngp.com Signatures are usually made to compensate for the boring contents. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178734
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    - Re: OT: Too many posts On Nov 20, 2005 at 2:47am "Microcephalic S. Bob" blathered: > Hmm... haven't looked at IMDB in a while. Where are the scripts? I've always just pulled them up when I Google: "[some word(s)] office space quote", but there are quotes (and a link to more) on each movies page. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.mcngp.com Spammers, please add "nospam" to address. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178733
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    - computertraining.com llc hey all, Anyone taken their certification courses through ComputerTraining.com LLC? I was just wondering how is your experiences with this program/school? Was it a good and sound investment that you have invested your time in? was it a good pay off...etc. Please share your experiences, I'm considering to go into this program/school. Just want to know what others thinks of it. Thanks. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178732
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    - Re: Best order to take cert exams? In article <OwPAIjf7FHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, goldtech@worldpost.com says... > (Exam 70-270): Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows > XP Professional > > Is this the first test I should take? > > What's usually the best order to take them? > > Thanks > > > Take the exams that you feel most comfortable with the technology first. This will help you gain confidence (hopefully) and get used to the way exams work. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178731
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    - Re: Please Post More On Nov 20, 2005 at 3:46am "Microcephalic S. Bob" blathered: > > "Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates@upyours.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9712F222A6DC4rowdyyates2124@207.46.248.16... >> "James" <fake@email.com> wrote in news:e76YZ9G7FHA.444 >> @TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl: >> >>> This group is too inactive, and not enough knowledge is being shared. >>> >>> Please post more! >>> >>>:) >>> >>> MCGPGLMNOP #1 >>> >>> >> >> more. > > Thank you, Rowdy, for sharing your "knowledge". I know my life has improved exponentially since I've read that post. More indeed. -- TGP MCNGP #100100 http://www.mcngp.com Excuse me, I believe you have my stapler... Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178730
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    - DHCP Leasing Client01 one leases an IP and so does Client02. One hour after their leasing, the DHCP server goes down. Client01 and Client02 have to reboot for any reason. After rebooting, Client01 maintains its IP address, as per the leasing expiration. Client02 releases the IP (remember they both have the same leasing period) for some reason. Both clients are Windows XP, and their behavior is expected to be the same, since they have the same TCP/IP configuration. They are in the same subnet and both can find the default gateway. No alternate IP is assigned. Any clue about why Client02 would release its IP before the leasing time expires? Remember Client01 has the same config and does not release the IP. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178729
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    - Re: DHCP Leasing In article <1FC4E5F9-6F61-48AD-BC80-1A736CDC4899@microsoft.com>, fmsmcse@discussions.microsoft.com says... > Client01 one leases an IP and so does Client02. > One hour after their leasing, the DHCP server goes down. > Client01 and Client02 have to reboot for any reason. > > After rebooting, Client01 maintains its IP address, as per the leasing > expiration. Client02 releases the IP (remember they both have the same > leasing period) for some reason. > > Both clients are Windows XP, and their behavior is expected to be the same, > since they have the same TCP/IP configuration. They are in the same subnet > and both can find the default gateway. No alternate IP is assigned. > > Any clue about why Client02 would release its IP before the leasing time > expires? > Remember Client01 has the same config and does not release the IP. This is not quite how DHCP leases work. DHCP leases are controlled by the DHCP server, not the client. When a DHCP client reboots, after the IP stack is started, it issues a DCHP Discovery packet, if the DHCP servers that receive the broadcast respond with a Acknowledge packet. If the DHCP server that acknowledges the client was the one that issued the address the client has cached, the client will request it in the Request packet, if the lease is still active, the DHCP server will respond with a Offer package for the address and the lease time is reset. If the DHCP server is not online when the client reboots, the client will use an APIPA address and continue to rebroadcast a Discovery packet every 5 minutes (2000 and later). As for why the two XP clients are behaving differntly, my guess is that the network IP properties on each client are configured differently. Most likely, APIPA is turned off on Client01. Client02 is working as expected. If you would like to learn more about this I suggest reading the RFC on DHCP (while boring as heck, if there is no better source for learning DHCP, which is a pretty simple protocol) and/or installing a network monitor and watching DHCP traffic. Tag: Re: OT: Too many posts Tag: 178728

On Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41am "kpg" blathered:

> needs to read Moby Dick

I'm still waiting for the movie to come out.

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