hi i have just satrted a course in pc engineering. I have
nearly completed A+ and about to start N+ hopefully
working towards mcse what are the bennifits of achieving
this and is it worth working towards. All input
gratfully recived.Thanks

just started by anonymous

anonymous
Tue Sep 07 08:59:06 CDT 2004

ummmm... arrr.... NO
>-----Original Message-----
>hi i have just satrted a course in pc engineering. I have
>nearly completed A+ and about to start N+ hopefully
>working towards mcse what are the bennifits of achieving
>this and is it worth working towards. All input
>gratfully recived.Thanks
>.
>

just started by Jonathon

Jonathon
Tue Sep 07 09:06:37 CDT 2004

here is my opinion on the matter, though others may have
a different point of few. ANY certification is a good
certification. The MCSE is the cert of all cert's
though. A+ and N+ are kinda shady... in other words,
they are (in my opinion) just pieces of paper that say "I
paid 100$ to say I know the basics about networking and
pc repair". A+ and N+ won't get you a high paying job
though. They normally start you out at the low tech-
support jobs.. If you want a good network
administration/engineering job, you'll need the
experience and/or the mcse. The N+ nor the A+ will get
you far.. However, if you are wanting a computer repair
job or a support desk job, A+ and N+ are the way to go...



>-----Original Message-----
>hi i have just satrted a course in pc engineering. I
have
>nearly completed A+ and about to start N+ hopefully
>working towards mcse what are the bennifits of achieving
>this and is it worth working towards. All input
>gratfully recived.Thanks
>.
>

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 09:51:25 CDT 2004

>working towards mcse what are the bennifits of achieving
>this and is it worth working towards

what does you employer think?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by Rowdy

Rowdy
Tue Sep 07 09:55:35 CDT 2004

"stephen wilson" <wilson169@hotmail.com> wrote in news:747f01c494dc
$7c86edf0$a601280a@phx.gbl:

> hi i have just satrted a course in pc engineering. I have
> nearly completed A+ and about to start N+ hopefully
> working towards mcse what are the bennifits of achieving
> this and is it worth working towards. All input
> gratfully recived.Thanks

there are lots of benefits to the MCSE. one of the biggest is that you get
to lurk on this ng and post words of wisdom whilst everyone else thinks you
are actually doing work. it has bettered my life considerably.

--
Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
http://rowdy_yates2.tripod.com/
http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 10:03:37 CDT 2004

>there are lots of benefits to the MCSE. one of the biggest is that you get
>to lurk on this ng and post words of wisdom whilst everyone else thinks you
>are actually doing work.

excellent point.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by JaR

JaR
Tue Sep 07 11:42:42 CDT 2004

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, stephen wilson climbed on a soapbox &
opined:

> hi i have just satrted a course in pc engineering. I have
> nearly completed A+ and about to start N+ hopefully
> working towards mcse what are the bennifits of achieving
> this and is it worth working towards. All input
> gratfully recived.Thanks

"pc engineering"

*snort*

JaR
Amused Thug

Re: just started by Rowdy

Rowdy
Tue Sep 07 11:58:28 CDT 2004

JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> wrote in
news:Xns955D62CE4B2C0plentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:

> "pc engineering"

"PC Engineering" = "A+ Hardware Monkey"

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Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 12:08:27 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>
spewed in news:Xns955D6E82261Frowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16:

> there are lots of benefits to the MCSE. one of the biggest is that you
> get to lurk on this ng and post words of wisdom whilst everyone else
> thinks you are actually doing work. it has bettered my life
> considerably.

mine too....and don't forget the chick magnet...it's real shiny...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 12:08:52 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
spewed in news:ndjrj0du20vv17a028t3s09phovela5lgt@4ax.com:

>>there are lots of benefits to the MCSE. one of the biggest is that you
>>get to lurk on this ng and post words of wisdom whilst everyone else
>>thinks you are actually doing work.
>
> excellent point.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

I thought the point was on the back of the chick magnet

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 12:09:06 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
spewed in news:rmirj05hmvimgoj8oeuipo7no5o2up9ob8@4ax.com:

> what does you employer think?

if he thinks

--
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the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 12:15:19 CDT 2004

>> what does you employer think?
>
>if he thinks

... or exists

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 12:15:47 CDT 2004

>I thought the point was on the back of the chick magnet

don't be silly!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 12:16:34 CDT 2004

>mine too....and don't forget the chick magnet...it's real shiny...

none of mine work damn it!! I want a refund!!!!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 12:19:27 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>
spewed in news:Xns955D835789284rowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16:

> JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> wrote in
> news:Xns955D62CE4B2C0plentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:
>
>> "pc engineering"
>
> "PC Engineering" = "A+ Hardware Monkey"
>

=Future Shop tech = minimum wage = no chicks

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 12:21:35 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
spewed in news:b6rrj0paupangssipofidote0s8tmd48qc@4ax.com:

>>mine too....and don't forget the chick magnet...it's real shiny...
>
> none of mine work damn it!! I want a refund!!!!
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>

mine almost works. although it doesn't have women falling at my feet the
wife at least attempts not to be totaly repulsed...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 12:27:13 CDT 2004

>>> "pc engineering"
>>
>> "PC Engineering" = "A+ Hardware Monkey"
>>
>
>=Future Shop tech = minimum wage = no chicks

but free meals though.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 12:30:49 CDT 2004

>mine almost works. although it doesn't have women falling at my feet the
>wife at least attempts not to be totaly repulsed...

you mean I should blame the wife?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by JaR

JaR
Tue Sep 07 12:46:08 CDT 2004

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Neil climbed on a soapbox & opined:

> babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
> spewed in news:b6rrj0paupangssipofidote0s8tmd48qc@4ax.com:
>
>>>mine too....and don't forget the chick magnet...it's real shiny...
>>
>> none of mine work damn it!! I want a refund!!!!
>>
>> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>>
>
> mine almost works. although it doesn't have women falling at my feet the
> wife at least attempts not to be totaly repulsed...
>

I can't tell if mine work. The wife won't let me wear them outside the
house :-(

She says they turn her on, though.

JaR
Monogamous Thug

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 12:48:11 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
spewed in news:91srj01e4pmmp2nnioftdfkpoijf8uotst@4ax.com:

>>mine almost works. although it doesn't have women falling at my feet
the
>>wife at least attempts not to be totaly repulsed...
>
> you mean I should blame the wife?

well, I blame society, but whatever works for you...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 12:50:33 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
spewed in news:kqrrj0hcoet8vbhltv94pslvm3hbdotobs@4ax.com:

> but free meals though.

not at Future Shop...
http://www.futureshop.ca/

but there is always something at:
http://www.bkcareers.com/

"ding fires are done"
(with appologies to Fris and Sandworm)

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 13:00:41 CDT 2004

>> but free meals though.
>
>not at Future Shop...
>http://www.futureshop.ca/

I'm shocked

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by JaR

JaR
Tue Sep 07 13:04:24 CDT 2004

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, The Poster Formerly Known as Kline
Sphere climbed on a soapbox & opined:

>>> but free meals though.
>>
>>not at Future Shop...
>>http://www.futureshop.ca/
>
> I'm shocked
>

And dismayed

JaR
S&D Thug

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 13:06:14 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> spewed in
news:Xns955D6D8F285A7plentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:

> She says they turn her on, though.

wow, your wife is even more easily impressed than mine is. well, mine only
cares that I keep bringing home a paycheck...I guess that means that she
only tolerates me...that's a start...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Rowdy

Rowdy
Tue Sep 07 13:07:20 CDT 2004

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.> wrote in
news:b6rrj0paupangssipofidote0s8tmd48qc@4ax.com:

>>mine too....and don't forget the chick magnet...it's real shiny...
>
> none of mine work damn it!! I want a refund!!!!
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>

that's 'cause you aren't cool. you got to nipple pierce, baby!!

and when the guy goes for the rings, you hand him over your lapel pins and
say, "these will do fine, thank you".

--
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http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp

Re: just started by Rowdy

Rowdy
Tue Sep 07 13:07:54 CDT 2004

Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
news:Xns955D878AAE9E3neilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16:

> babbling on and on again Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>
> spewed in news:Xns955D835789284rowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16:
>
>> JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> wrote in
>> news:Xns955D62CE4B2C0plentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:
>>
>>> "pc engineering"
>>
>> "PC Engineering" = "A+ Hardware Monkey"
>>
>
> =Future Shop tech = minimum wage = no chicks
>

but lots and lots of chicken tika parties.

--
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http://rowdy_yates2.tripod.com/
http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp

Re: just started by The

The
Tue Sep 07 13:13:33 CDT 2004

>mine only
>cares that I keep bringing home a paycheck

mine earns more than me - I love my wife......

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 13:14:37 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> spewed
in news:Xns955D8F0472D27rowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16:

> you got to nipple pierce, baby!!
>

you've nipple pierced yourself with your lapel pins? THAT'S FREAKY!!

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Rowdy

Rowdy
Tue Sep 07 13:26:18 CDT 2004

Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
news:Xns955D90E4FF150neilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16:

> babbling on and on again Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>
> spewed in news:Xns955D8F0472D27rowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16:
>
>> you got to nipple pierce, baby!!
>>
>
> you've nipple pierced yourself with your lapel pins? THAT'S FREAKY!!
>

did you do know that christina aguilerra has her wee wee pierced. i saw
that on MUCH last night. HA.. HA... HA.... definatly trying to put "genie
in a bottle" phase behind her.

--
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http://rowdy_yates2.tripod.com/
http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 13:41:38 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
spewed in news:nptrj0lp4cpthgphbdgsurc8bubf86mj1i@4ax.com:

> I'm shocked

wet your pants while chewing electrical cords again?

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 13:42:26 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> spewed in
news:Xns955D70A81F70Cplentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:

> And dismayed

maybe if they work in the IS dept at BK they could have the best of both
worlds

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 13:48:08 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
spewed in news:nhurj0pm1djtd6fvlpt8pf781ak3nuqrlt@4ax.com:

> mine earns more than me - I love my wife......

mine does the laundry, irons, cooks (really god cook, I have the fat to
prove it), cleans...now if I could just get her to wear stilleto heels
and pearls while mopping the damned floor it would be perfect...gawd I
love that woman...my wife, not June Cleaver...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 13:49:55 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>
spewed in news:Xns955D923BF9FE0rowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16:

>> you've nipple pierced yourself with your lapel pins? THAT'S FREAKY!!
>>
>
> did you do know that christina aguilerra has her wee wee pierced. i
> saw that on MUCH last night. HA.. HA... HA.... definatly trying to put
> "genie in a bottle" phase behind her.

this will eventually wind up as some freakish photoshop job on the l33t
site...


--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by JaR

JaR
Tue Sep 07 13:49:17 CDT 2004

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, The Poster Formerly Known as Kline
Sphere climbed on a soapbox & opined:

>>mine only
>>cares that I keep bringing home a paycheck
>
> mine earns more than me - I love my wife......
>

*JaR's fantasy switch slides into the ON position*

JaR
Broke Thug

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 14:04:33 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> spewed in
news:Xns955D7843F4D0Bplentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:

> *JaR's fantasy switch slides into the ON position*

women don't play sugar daddy that well..when mine was making more she just
got bitchy...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by JaR

JaR
Tue Sep 07 14:16:28 CDT 2004

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Neil climbed on a soapbox & opined:

> babbling on and on again JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> spewed in
> news:Xns955D7843F4D0Bplentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:
>
>> *JaR's fantasy switch slides into the ON position*
>
> women don't play sugar daddy that well..when mine was making more she
> just got bitchy...
>

Hey! It's *my* fantasy. I can have it the way I want!

JaR
Adamant Thug

Re: just started by Mitch

Mitch
Tue Sep 07 14:37:41 CDT 2004


"Jonathon Hibbard" <jhibbard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:750301c494e3$e4158880$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> If you want a good network
> administration/engineering job, you'll need the
> experience and/or the mcse.

There is no or. Experience and a little luck are the only way to get and
keep an admin/engineer job.

> The N+ nor the A+ will get
> you far.. However, if you are wanting a computer repair
> job or a support desk job, A+ and N+ are the way to go...
>

True they are a start, but you need more even for help desk. This has been
my experience anyway.
--
Mitch S.
MCSA, CCNA, A+, Net+



Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 14:34:52 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> spewed in
news:Xns955D7CDF989F2plentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:

> Hey! It's *my* fantasy. I can have it the way I want!
>

um, ok then. just so long as you aren't going to confuse it with a
_possible_ reality...

aw crap, this will get jtyc started on the percieved reality thing...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Rowdy

Rowdy
Tue Sep 07 18:37:39 CDT 2004

Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
news:Xns955D95795484Fneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16:

> babbling on and on again The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>
> spewed in news:nptrj0lp4cpthgphbdgsurc8bubf86mj1i@4ax.com:
>
>> I'm shocked
>
> wet your pants while chewing electrical cords again?
>

LOL

--
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http://rowdy_yates2.tripod.com/
"If it doesn't sleep, doesn't eat, doesn't take piss breaks and plays poker
24 hours a day - it's a bot!"

Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Tue Sep 07 19:15:43 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Rowdy Yates
<rowdy_yates_mcngp@removethisyahoo.com> spewed in
news:Xns955DC73E993EFrowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16:

>> wet your pants while chewing electrical cords again?
>>
>
> LOL

how you think he got that 'fro

--
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the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by Consultant

Consultant
Thu Sep 09 16:36:09 CDT 2004

crap, i knew i did somethign wrong, oh well, they feel good


"Laura A. Robinson" <geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1baa77d1834e02598abc7@msnews.microsoft.com...
> circa Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:16:34 +0100, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, The Poster Formerly Known as Kline
> Sphere <.> (The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>) said,
> > >mine too....and don't forget the chick magnet...it's real shiny...
> >
> > none of mine work damn it!! I want a refund!!!!
> >
> You're not supposed to pin it to your nipple.
>
> Laura
> --
> Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes.
> -Oscar Wilde



Re: just started by Consultant

Consultant
Thu Sep 09 16:53:59 CDT 2004

roger?

"Laura A. Robinson" <geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1baa97ea7c95197398abf1@msnews.microsoft.com...
> circa Thu, 9 Sep 2004 14:36:09 -0700, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Consultant
> (consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com) said,
>
> > > microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, The Poster Formerly Known as Kline
> > > Sphere <.> (The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.>) said,
> > > > >mine too....and don't forget the chick magnet...it's real shiny...
> > > >
> > > > none of mine work damn it!! I want a refund!!!!
> > > >
> > > You're not supposed to pin it to your nipple.
>
> > crap, i knew i did somethign wrong, oh well, they feel good
> >
> Janet?
>
> --
> Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes.
> -Oscar Wilde



Re: just started by Jtyc

Jtyc
Thu Sep 09 17:01:24 CDT 2004

> Janet?

Damnit. Janet.







Or interplanetary Janet?




Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Thu Sep 09 20:57:15 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Laura A. Robinson <geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com>
spewed in news:MPG.1baa7dee2914204498abca@msnews.microsoft.com:

> I'm getting scared...

as you should...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by billLASTINIT

billLASTINIT
Fri Sep 10 07:49:32 CDT 2004

Jtyc wrote:
>> Janet?
>
> Damnit. Janet.

It's just a jump to the left...

Re: just started by Jtyc

Jtyc
Fri Sep 10 10:03:00 CDT 2004

> It's just a jump to the left...

Here and I was starting to think I was the only one who got that...



Re: just started by Jtyc

Jtyc
Fri Sep 10 11:19:42 CDT 2004

> I only saw Rocky Horror once, for pete's sake; what do you expect?

I expect flawless memory.


unless it is my own...










Re: just started by Jtyc

Jtyc
Fri Sep 10 12:52:46 CDT 2004

> Remember, I had a reboot yesterday. I'm still restoring from backup.

hmm... drugs can affect the memory. Very well then, I apologize.



Re: just started by Jtyc

Jtyc
Mon Sep 13 09:48:52 CDT 2004

> Who are you?

There are some who call me... Tim.





Re: just started by Neil

Neil
Mon Sep 13 11:49:25 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com>
spewed in news:OKGhKDamEHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

>> Who are you?
>
> There are some who call me... Tim.
>
>
>
>
>

some people call me Maurice...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Re: just started by TechGeekPro

TechGeekPro
Mon Sep 13 23:53:27 CDT 2004

On Sep 13, 2004 at 12:49pm "Neil" blathered:

> some people call me Maurice...

...'cause you speak of the pompitous of love?

--
TechGeekPro, MCNGP #36
MCNGP.com - We're here to help!
I'm TechGeekPro, and I approved this post.

Re: just started by billLASTINIT

billLASTINIT
Tue Sep 14 07:25:46 CDT 2004

Laura A. Robinson wrote:
> circa Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:53:27 -0500, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, TechGeekPro (%username%@gmail.com)
> said,
>>> some people call me Maurice...
>>
>> ...'cause you speak of the pompitous of love?
>>
> What is the pompa/itous of love??!!??!!
>
> Oh, wait...
>
> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_065.html
>
> Laura

Fascinating.

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