Braindumps and cheat sheets?? Oh ya - that's the way to
obtain certs - especially with 290 & 291 then when you
are sat down in that environment you'll know squat.
There is no real "quick way" to get certifications.
Study like the rest of us. It is the people that use
these items that make a bad name for the rest of us out
there busting our ass off to study and pass these things
legitimately.

Get the text books and study - earn your MCSE the legit
way.

just started by bob

bob
Fri Jan 02 06:54:22 CST 2004

arrrr. cry cry cry, I've been working with windows servers
since ms started to make them and have set up countless
networks including my own 9 servers (4 are virtual) and 30
desktops manly used for gaming i only have a DSL line
currently but am trying to get funding for a t1 (not going
very well. I friend who has complete mcse said there are a
couple a questions on using cmd in active directory ect.
so before you go giving out to me don't judge i think you
spend less time in this newsgroup and more studding and
learn how to do the simple things like replying directly
to a post not making a new one
>-----Original Message-----
>Braindumps and cheat sheets?? Oh ya - that's the way to
>obtain certs - especially with 290 & 291 then when you
>are sat down in that environment you'll know squat.
>There is no real "quick way" to get certifications.
>Study like the rest of us. It is the people that use
>these items that make a bad name for the rest of us out
>there busting our ass off to study and pass these things
>legitimately.
>
>Get the text books and study - earn your MCSE the legit
>way.
>.
>

just started by showgun

showgun
Fri Jan 02 07:31:00 CST 2004

your an idiot but you have a tiny point if you know that
much about mins servers you shouldent need braind bumps
>-----Original Message-----
>arrrr. cry cry cry, I've been working with windows
servers
>since ms started to make them and have set up countless
>networks including my own 9 servers (4 are virtual) and
30
>desktops manly used for gaming i only have a DSL line
>currently but am trying to get funding for a t1 (not
going
>very well. I friend who has complete mcse said there are
a
>couple a questions on using cmd in active directory ect.
>so before you go giving out to me don't judge i think you
>spend less time in this newsgroup and more studding and
>learn how to do the simple things like replying directly
>to a post not making a new one
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Braindumps and cheat sheets?? Oh ya - that's the way to
>>obtain certs - especially with 290 & 291 then when you
>>are sat down in that environment you'll know squat.
>>There is no real "quick way" to get certifications.
>>Study like the rest of us. It is the people that use
>>these items that make a bad name for the rest of us out
>>there busting our ass off to study and pass these things
>>legitimately.
>>
>>Get the text books and study - earn your MCSE the legit
>>way.
>>.
>>
>.
>

just started by anonymous

anonymous
Fri Jan 02 07:49:15 CST 2004

Judge you? I was simply stating that you should get your
cert the legit way. Be glad that was all I said - anyone
else in here would have started the lovely "ass******"
comment for you looking in a newsgroup for braindumps.
So if you know sooooo much about servers/workstations
then you don't need braindumps. Me crying? No I wasn't
crying - I was stating simply that you should get a cert
legitimately And so what I added a new post - sheesh get
over it. I actually do spend quite a bit of time in this
newsgroup - I only chose to post today because if you go
to Google you would probably find what you need instead
of going on a MS newsgroup to look for a way to cheat on
an MS certification. You sound more whiner in this post
than I did in mine. Suck it up and move on.
>-----Original Message-----
>arrrr. cry cry cry, I've been working with windows
servers
>since ms started to make them and have set up countless
>networks including my own 9 servers (4 are virtual) and
30
>desktops manly used for gaming i only have a DSL line
>currently but am trying to get funding for a t1 (not
going
>very well. I friend who has complete mcse said there are
a
>couple a questions on using cmd in active directory ect.
>so before you go giving out to me don't judge i think
you
>spend less time in this newsgroup and more studding and
>learn how to do the simple things like replying directly
>to a post not making a new one
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Braindumps and cheat sheets?? Oh ya - that's the way to
>>obtain certs - especially with 290 & 291 then when you
>>are sat down in that environment you'll know squat.
>>There is no real "quick way" to get certifications.
>>Study like the rest of us. It is the people that use
>>these items that make a bad name for the rest of us out
>>there busting our ass off to study and pass these
things
>>legitimately.
>>
>>Get the text books and study - earn your MCSE the legit
>>way.
>>.
>>
>.
>

Re: just started by Kline

Kline
Fri Jan 02 07:54:42 CST 2004

>30 desktops manly used for gaming

lol! What's wrong with a play station!!

Re: just started by The

The
Fri Jan 02 08:17:08 CST 2004

Careful Anonymous otherwise the Drama Queen will bestow untold evils
upon you for daring to condemn those jolly nice brain dump users.

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 05:49:15 -0800,
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Judge you? I was simply stating that you should get your
>cert the legit way. Be glad that was all I said - anyone
>else in here would have started the lovely "ass******"
>comment for you looking in a newsgroup for braindumps.
>So if you know sooooo much about servers/workstations
>then you don't need braindumps. Me crying? No I wasn't
>crying - I was stating simply that you should get a cert
>legitimately And so what I added a new post - sheesh get
>over it. I actually do spend quite a bit of time in this
>newsgroup - I only chose to post today because if you go
>to Google you would probably find what you need instead
>of going on a MS newsgroup to look for a way to cheat on
>an MS certification. You sound more whiner in this post
>than I did in mine. Suck it up and move on.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>arrrr. cry cry cry, I've been working with windows
>servers
>>since ms started to make them and have set up countless
>>networks including my own 9 servers (4 are virtual) and
>30
>>desktops manly used for gaming i only have a DSL line
>>currently but am trying to get funding for a t1 (not
>going
>>very well. I friend who has complete mcse said there are
>a
>>couple a questions on using cmd in active directory ect.
>>so before you go giving out to me don't judge i think
>you
>>spend less time in this newsgroup and more studding and
>>learn how to do the simple things like replying directly
>>to a post not making a new one
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Braindumps and cheat sheets?? Oh ya - that's the way to
>>>obtain certs - especially with 290 & 291 then when you
>>>are sat down in that environment you'll know squat.
>>>There is no real "quick way" to get certifications.
>>>Study like the rest of us. It is the people that use
>>>these items that make a bad name for the rest of us out
>>>there busting our ass off to study and pass these
>things
>>>legitimately.
>>>
>>>Get the text books and study - earn your MCSE the legit
>>>way.
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>


Re: just started by techgrl

techgrl
Fri Jan 02 08:24:33 CST 2004

Oh my golly goodie gracious - what was I thinking?? I
thought I would throw everyone off with the anonymous
quote ;)

Let them come after me - at least I know I will have
gotten my certs the right way!

>-----Original Message-----
>Careful Anonymous otherwise the Drama Queen will bestow
untold evils
>upon you for daring to condemn those jolly nice brain
dump users.
>
>On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 05:49:15 -0800,
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Judge you? I was simply stating that you should get
your
>>cert the legit way. Be glad that was all I said -
anyone
>>else in here would have started the lovely "ass******"
>>comment for you looking in a newsgroup for braindumps.
>>So if you know sooooo much about servers/workstations
>>then you don't need braindumps. Me crying? No I
wasn't
>>crying - I was stating simply that you should get a
cert
>>legitimately And so what I added a new post - sheesh
get
>>over it. I actually do spend quite a bit of time in
this
>>newsgroup - I only chose to post today because if you
go
>>to Google you would probably find what you need instead
>>of going on a MS newsgroup to look for a way to cheat
on
>>an MS certification. You sound more whiner in this
post
>>than I did in mine. Suck it up and move on.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>arrrr. cry cry cry, I've been working with windows
>>servers
>>>since ms started to make them and have set up
countless
>>>networks including my own 9 servers (4 are virtual)
and
>>30
>>>desktops manly used for gaming i only have a DSL line
>>>currently but am trying to get funding for a t1 (not
>>going
>>>very well. I friend who has complete mcse said there
are
>>a
>>>couple a questions on using cmd in active directory
ect.
>>>so before you go giving out to me don't judge i think
>>you
>>>spend less time in this newsgroup and more studding
and
>>>learn how to do the simple things like replying
directly
>>>to a post not making a new one
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Braindumps and cheat sheets?? Oh ya - that's the way
to
>>>>obtain certs - especially with 290 & 291 then when
you
>>>>are sat down in that environment you'll know squat.
>>>>There is no real "quick way" to get certifications.
>>>>Study like the rest of us. It is the people that use
>>>>these items that make a bad name for the rest of us
out
>>>>there busting our ass off to study and pass these
>>things
>>>>legitimately.
>>>>
>>>>Get the text books and study - earn your MCSE the
legit
>>>>way.
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
>.
>

Re: just started by The

The
Fri Jan 02 08:49:14 CST 2004

>Oh my golly goodie gracious - what was I thinking?? I
>thought I would throw everyone off with the anonymous
>quote ;)

lol! I wonder how long my disguise will last before someone realizes
who I am!

Re: just started by techgrl

techgrl
Fri Jan 02 08:58:51 CST 2004

My lips are zipped ;) Your secret is safe with me...lol!
>-----Original Message-----
>>Oh my golly goodie gracious - what was I thinking?? I
>>thought I would throw everyone off with the anonymous
>>quote ;)
>
>lol! I wonder how long my disguise will last before
someone realizes
>who I am!
>.
>

Re: just started by The

The
Fri Jan 02 09:09:55 CST 2004

>My lips are zipped ;) Your secret is safe with me...lol!
Thanks!

Re: just started by iCertify

iCertify
Fri Jan 02 14:11:16 CST 2004

Ummm...Kline, get your facts straight. I'm one of the strongest advocates
against braindumps and braindump users out there.

"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:36vavvo44ln4iopiajrnc9bb2a5j4voajf@4ax.com...
> Careful Anonymous otherwise the Drama Queen will bestow untold evils
> upon you for daring to condemn those jolly nice brain dump users.
>




Re: just started by The

The
Fri Jan 02 14:18:18 CST 2004

>Ummm...Kline, get your facts straight. I'm one of the strongest advocates
>against braindumps and braindump users out there.

Then what's your problem? Oh ya you love Trolls... lol!

Re: just started by iCertify

iCertify
Fri Jan 02 17:04:33 CST 2004

Umm...no...I just can't stand for the way you guys put down people with the
legitimate questions. You try to make it appear that you just put down
braindumpers and spammers, but we both know that isn't true - as does
anybody else who reads through the threads in the newsgroup and sees how
many innocent people you have knocked down.
--
Paisleyskye
http://www.icertify.net
Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
articles, interviews
with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:0fkbvvsvo97bcgc0vak636tp0od88lbl18@4ax.com...
> >Ummm...Kline, get your facts straight. I'm one of the strongest
advocates
> >against braindumps and braindump users out there.
>
> Then what's your problem? Oh ya you love Trolls... lol!



Re: just started by Larry

Larry
Fri Jan 02 17:24:06 CST 2004

Really?

How about quoting ANY message from me that was an attack that was not aimed
at a braindumper or troll (other than teasing another MCNGP member)

I await your response with bated breath.
And that was bated, not baited--those worms taste plain nasty unless they
have been properly cured in Tequila first
--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
MCNGP #68
Associate Expert
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://home.earthlink.net/~larrysamuels/WS2003FAQ.htm
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vvbu7v8o9f1h2b@corp.supernews.com...
> Umm...no...I just can't stand for the way you guys put down people with
> the
> legitimate questions. You try to make it appear that you just put down
> braindumpers and spammers, but we both know that isn't true - as does
> anybody else who reads through the threads in the newsgroup and sees how
> many innocent people you have knocked down.
> --
> Paisleyskye
> http://www.icertify.net
> Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
> articles, interviews
> with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
> "The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> news:0fkbvvsvo97bcgc0vak636tp0od88lbl18@4ax.com...
>> >Ummm...Kline, get your facts straight. I'm one of the strongest
> advocates
>> >against braindumps and braindump users out there.
>>
>> Then what's your problem? Oh ya you love Trolls... lol!
>
>



Re: just started by The

The
Sat Jan 03 05:39:25 CST 2004

>Umm...no...I just can't stand for the way you guys put down people with the
>legitimate questions.

You started all this by defining a Troll (all be it, assuming)
posting.

>You try to make it appear that you just put down
>braindumpers and spammers, but we both know that isn't true - as does
>anybody else who reads through the threads in the newsgroup and sees how
>many innocent people you have knocked down.

Yep Braindumpers (there are so many of them), spammers ( excluding
those who advertise with large sigs at the bottom of the their own
posts), thieves, counterfeiters, pirates, cheats and stupid people
(whoshould be let near a terminal, even a dumb one), all come in for
flaming, as it should be. These people have no business in our
profession.

Oh yes some of us do post amusing posts as well which are indeed off
topic. Having a sense of humor is not a crime, at least not in the usa
(or the uk).

I have no problem with people wanting to enter the profession (newbies
as you call them), and wish those people luck in achieving that goal.
The industry needs top quality engineers. However, the mcse
certification program is not for 'newbies' and this is not a 'newbie'
ng. The mcse certification program should not be seen as a starting
point for people who want to enter the profession. Sadly there is no
way to determine those mcse's who got through with brain dumps, those
who worked hard, but have no real world experience and those that are
true professionals.

A snip from http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/mcse.asp

<snip>
An MCSE candidate should have at least one year of experience
implementing and administering a network operating system in
environments with the following characteristics:

200 to 26,000 supported users
Five to 150 physical locations
Typical network services and applications including file and print,
database, messaging, proxy server or firewall, dial-in server, desktop
management, and Web hosting
Connectivity needs including connecting individual offices and users
at remote locations to the corporate network and connecting corporate
networks to the Internet
</snip>

You do NOT see 'many innocent people' which I or anyone else has
'knocked down', only stupid or ignorant people, which I for one don't
want in this profession.

Re: just started by The

The
Sat Jan 03 05:40:42 CST 2004

>Really?
>
>How about quoting ANY message from me that was an attack that was not aimed
>at a braindumper or troll (other than teasing another MCNGP member)
>
>I await your response with bated breath.
>And that was bated, not baited--those worms taste plain nasty unless they
>have been properly cured in Tequila first

I'll join you!

just started by vincevodola

vincevodola
Sat Jan 03 18:57:42 CST 2004

Hi my name is Vince,
I would like to know if you don't mind about the MCSE
Certification,at the present time I have gained the
computer networking level 1&2 but I would like persue the
Microsoft Certification for more credential in the field .
Could you give me some advise how to get the material and
the prosidure about to study on your on pace and write the
exame .
Thank you very much for your attention and looking
forward for your reply .
Vince-

Re: just started by Don't

Don't
Sat Jan 03 19:28:43 CST 2004

Start your research at http://www.microsoft.com/learning

"vincevodola@hotmail.com" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:021001c3d25d$c22daa70$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi my name is Vince,
> I would like to know if you don't mind about the MCSE
> Certification,at the present time I have gained the
> computer networking level 1&2 but I would like persue the
> Microsoft Certification for more credential in the field .
> Could you give me some advise how to get the material and
> the prosidure about to study on your on pace and write the
> exame .
> Thank you very much for your attention and looking
> forward for your reply .
> Vince-



Re: just started by oncebitten

oncebitten
Mon Jan 05 08:24:06 CST 2004

bob wrote:
> i think you
> spend less time in this newsgroup and more studding

You would be right, but how did you know that?

--
Fris "John Holmes, Jr." bee® MCNGP #13

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help



Re: just started by WildCelt

WildCelt
Mon Jan 05 09:30:29 CST 2004



iCertify.net wrote:
> Umm...no...I just can't stand for the way you guys put down people with the
> legitimate questions. You try to make it appear that you just put down
> braindumpers and spammers, but we both know that isn't true - as does
> anybody else who reads through the threads in the newsgroup and sees how
> many innocent people you have knocked down.
> --
> Paisleyskye
> http://www.icertify.net
> Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
> articles, interviews
> with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
> "The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> news:0fkbvvsvo97bcgc0vak636tp0od88lbl18@4ax.com...
>
>>>Ummm...Kline, get your facts straight. I'm one of the strongest
>
> advocates
>
>>>against braindumps and braindump users out there.
>>
>>Then what's your problem? Oh ya you love Trolls... lol!
>

<Best Dieter voice>

Your story has become tiresome

</Best Dieter voice>

Re: just started by The

The
Mon Jan 05 12:13:00 CST 2004

>> i think you
>> spend less time in this newsgroup and more studding
>
>You would be right, but how did you know that?
>
>--
>Fris "John Holmes, Jr." bee® MCNGP #13

lol! you really should have your own show!