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    - OT: Last Poast of the YEAR Man, this is like a frickin' eBay bid or something... I just can't help myself, I HAVE TO POAST! And I'm getting sleepy and stuff, I might fall asleep and lose bid^H^H^Hposting contestssssssssssNO CARRIER Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208665
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    - OT: WHO Will make the last official poast in this froup for 2006? My money's on Neil. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208662
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    - OT: HEY NEIL DO THEY HAVE NEW YEAR'S DAY IN CANUCKIDOM? OR DO THEY CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE OKAY THANKS BYE Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208661
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    - OT: JEWISH EGG DONOR NEEDED $8,000 http://neworleans.craigslist.org/etc/254997126.html You gotta read this! Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208653
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    - Baddie of the Year !!! So who was the Biggest, Baddest, Evil-est villain of the year 2006 ?? Well, a poll was conducted by AP amongst Americans and here are the results : Bush beats Osama hands down ! Bush's supporters can finally rejoice that Bush has beaten Osama in atleast one thing. And guess what ! Saddam (poor devil) comes third. Read the full story at : <http://tinyurl.com/y43l6y> What say y'all we also cast our votes for Baddie, Goodie, and Hottie of the year ? I know Lowdes is pushing for a "Troll of the year" vote, but I'm reluctant for that one. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208650
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    - OT: Vinay update Could this be Vinay's scam? http://www.telegraphindia.com/1061229/asp/frontpage/story_7197510.asp Gotta give them credit for creative use of technology, though. Happy new year everyone! KB Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208624
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    - MOC code and Exam code Hi, Can you please mail me the MOC code and the exam code which microsoft is going to implement in its MCSE curriculum. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208598
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    - OT: Wednesday Where-in-the-heck-is-everybody? Playing with all y'all's new toys or somethin'? Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208585
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    - Does anyone expect... ... MS to put out an equivalent exam for the 70-270 in the Vista format? I'm at the point I should take a client OS exam, but would prefer to get a vista cert since it is on the cusp of release. The reason I ask is I have taken the 70-290 & 70-291 already, and am planning to get the MCSA on my way to MCSE. If waiting for a new exam will behoove me, what are your suggestions for an elective exam to work on in the mean time, security+? a+? ideas? I am eager to get moving! thx PS - sorry about the on topic post! :P Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208584
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    - MI5 Persecution: Financial Times Financial Times 17/Sept/1999 David Bowen performed a Web Site Inspection in the Financial Times, in which he compared the "Open Government" approach of the American intelligence community with the closed world of British spookdom. The second paragraph mentions this site. It appears that there are very few sites with material information on SS/SIS, which leads to this site's descriptions of those agencies being frequently linked to by other persons' pages. Perhaps there is an irony that American agencies which have much more capability appear to be more transparent than British agencies which have much less. 872 -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208574
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    - MI5 Persecution: why won't the British police do their job and put a stop to it? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= why won't the British police do their job and put a stop to it? -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The British police obviously do know what is taking place. Besides my interpretations of what individual officers have said which forces that conclusion, it would be inconceivable for them to be unaware of something on this scale. If they know, then they will know that the abusers have broken laws in the UK and abroad. Recently the UK introduced laws against electronic spying which carry a penalty of several years jail if caught. If the police know illegal harassment is taking place, and do nothing about it, then they are failing in their responsibilities. Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station in London and spoke to an officer about the harassment against me. But I couldn't provide tangible evidence; what people said, in many cases years ago, is beyond proof, and without something to support my statements I cannot expect a police officer to take the complaint seriously. The current situation with regard to the police is not one which allows a breakthrough in dealing with the problem. On the one hand, most individual officers at a local police station may not know about the ongoing assaults, so a complaint at that level will not yield results. Yet the police as an organisation do know of the harassment, and they must be aware that a complaint has been made at a police station. So it is clearly their duty to take preventative action against the continuing molestation, but because the criminals are operating on behalf of a state agency, the police are not carrying out their duty. 865 -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208566
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    - OT: Deer Briscobar Your sister is a tease! Just now I got this e-mail from "BRISCOE Christi" subject: "re:Let me show you..." She wanted me to buy a faux Rolex... she said that Christmas is coming soon! I hope you got your sister a calendar for Christmas. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208550
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    - Obtain Mcse,Mcsa,Mcdba,Mcsd .Net,Ccna,Ccnp Without Exams(Pay After Check Resutls)100% Passing Gaurantee hi friends if anyone need to clear MCSE,MCSA,MCDBA,MCSD,MCSD.NET,CCNA,CCNP,A+,N+,SECURITY+Without exams and study.. we will give the exams on ur bahalf..make u pass in that and charge some extra amount from u.. Then here the search END.. Benifits:- 1. No need to Give EXAMS by Urself. 2. Need not to go on any testing site to give exams. 3. 100% Passing Gaurantee. 4. U have to pay US after checking ur results online. 5. Got certifications at ur Doorstep. Things we Need from the candidates :- 1. Their full name ( that he need to appear on his scoresheet and certificate). 2. Their Full address ( for certificaiton De;ivery) 3. Their Passport And Driving liciense colour scan copy(as photo id proof) 4. Cell as well as landline number with country code 5. Correct exam numbers( that candidates want to do) procedure :- Provide us ur these detials then we will sit on our own several testing site (vue and prometric both) do ur exams and then send u ur scorehseets..by using that scoresheet u will easily able to check ur result online...and when u will check ur results...only then u have to send us payment. No Payment in advance required..but in the case of microsoft exams only.. for other tests candidate need to send us half payment in advance.. prices :- Microsoft any exam :- 400 usd ccna :- 999 usd ccnp :- 1200 usd each exam comptia A+ :- 1400 usd each exam comptia net+ :- 1300 usd comptia security + = 1300 usd Citrix each exam :- 1000 usd sap each exam :- 1200 usd oracle 9i :- 3400 usd oracle 10g :- 4800 ussd Microsoft Business Solution each exam :-1500usd(including exam fee) contact info :- mail us at :- all_certs@yahoo.com Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208548
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    - WHY NO JOB................. MY NAME IS REMIGUS AND I HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK WHICH IS WHY MCSE PROFESSSIONAL FROM NIGERIA ARE FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO GET A JOB ON THE NET. I CURRENTLY HOLD A B.SC IN COMPUTER SCIENCE WITH 3 MICROSOFT CERTIFICATIONS WHICH ARE MCP,MCSA AND MCSE AND I HAVE NOT GOTTING A JOB SINCE I HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED. I WILL BE GARATEFUL IF THIS CHANNEL CAN BE OF HELP Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208537
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    - latest dumps for MCSE CCNA CCNP and OTHERS free here hello everyone, FOR those who are taking any exams this site is a must check it out http://www.latestdumps.com/ Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208536
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    - OT: it's today Merry friggin' Christmas... hope your day sucks less than mine. (I didn't tickle the sig monster, but it's appropriate) -- The InterNeil MCNGP Triple X - A Girlfriend may be a free trial, but you get a life sentence. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208533
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    - OT: Happty Christmas Here in the UK, it's 19:11 and I'm outa here until next Wednesday (I get the 26th off over here ;-). All have a good holiday. Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3 Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208519
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    - opinions on TrainSignal cbts? just looking for opinions on any of TrainSignal's cbts... good? bad? soso? I just finished their DNS one and thought it was pretty good. Certianly not enough to use as sole material for passing test (not intended for that anyway) but I was impressed. I am thinking about getting their package deal with *all* the windows cbt's and want to see what other people's experiences have been with them... to be clear as possible here, I know and am not looking for these to be a one stop shop to pass a test. Several sources of study are required and of course experience... what I am hoping to get are opinions from people who have used any TrainSignal cbts on their: 1) *accuracy of information* 2) level of detail covered for subject matter 3) instructors effectiveness (clarity in communication, explaining complicated things in easier to understand terms, good instruction etc..) Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208518
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    - Deer Santa Deer Satan, This year has ben relly difi...diffi...hard for me. Those mcngp ppl are so mean. They won't let me into there click n I really feel I deserve it. I have tried everything Santa, I thought they would fer shure at least let one of my sock pupets into the group, I spent lots of time on the Stan sock, he was my mostest best of them all. And I'm sure you, Satan, would appreciate Preacher Nathaniel the most, he was one of my favorite sock puppets, was he yours too? I'm sorry I gave up on many of the sock puppets early santa, Kurt, and James just weren't good enough to be worthy of an mcngp flaming, so I had to cut there toes off and bury them in the bottom of the sock drawer with the ©o©k puppets :) So Satan, since I cant get into mcngp this year, will you leave a message for your brothers in the group to at least spare me the humilty by allowing me to post in the newsgroup again. I really miss posting in the newsgroup. Please santa, please?!?! Thank you Santa, Love Lowdes Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208508
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    - OT, A Message consultant wishes you and yours a happy holidays /that is all Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208500
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    - Dear "Mr Moderator" If you ever do something stupid like that again, I will be forced to take action. Do NOT call my house and do not harass me in any way shape or form. This is an official Cease and Desist notification. If you continue, I will take legal action against you. You have been identified by my phone company and all I have to do is dial a number and you will have the proceedings start upon yourself. You have been warned and you only get one warning. -- Lasher MCNGP #50 MCNGP: Leading the world to better training, better computer skills, and taking out the lowdes and othman's of the world with fervor beyond anyone's belief. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208476
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    - OT: Holy Frapper What happened to the map? (er) Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208466
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    - MCSE What is the MCSE? -- ROLLTIDE Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208436
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    - Graphics Card & Video Card What type of graphics card and video card should I get? I want to play games, but how much does it mater? -- ROLLTIDE Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208435
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    - OT: Not to be outdone From the historical record: Dec 9 2003 4:32 pm Twas the night before Test Day, when all through the house Not a creature was stirring, except for a mouse; The Internet sites were being searched with great care, In hopes that Answers soon would be there; The candidates then nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of 900's danced in their heads; The braindump sites had all promised a pass, They were sure to land a job and get lots of cash, When out of the newsgroups there arose such a clatter, I sprang to the monitor to see what was the matter. Away to the keyboard I flew like a flash, Opened outlook express (hoping it didn't crash). I looked at the newsgroup, at each little line Everything seemed calm, really just fine When, what to my watering eyes should appear, But a thousand new posts, I almost dropped my new beer, It was a little old man, so mean and so bold, I knew in a moment it was the one foretold, More rapid than cable his legions they came, And he rallied, and shouted, and called them by name; "Now, Consultant! now, Frisbee! Now, Kendal and Brat! On, Politician Spock! on Jtyc! On, Ken and all that! To the top of the newsgroup! Head my momentous call! Now type away! Type away! Type away all!" Like flames that leap in a raging wild fire west, When they meet with a dumper they burned him in jest, So up to the server the mockery flew, You'll not get certified and our respect too. The torrents continued all though the night And then, in a twinkling, I saw a refreshing sight The changing of minds, though only a few. There is still much more work to do. He sprang to his keyboard, to his team gave a cheer, And away they all flew to go get a beer. But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight, "HAPPY TESTING TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!" Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208421
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    - Things will change here From next year, this is how's it's going to be. 1 - Only MCNGP members Neil & LRM will be allowed to post to this site without clearance by me, Mr Moderator. 2 - MCNGP members Lasher, The Rev & Rowdy Yates will be allowed to submit posts to me, Mr Moderator, which I vet before determining if such posts are fit for publication. 3 - No other members of the MCNGP will be allowed to post *ANY* messages to this site. Such attempts we result in me, Mr Moderator, reporting those members of the MCNGP to their IPS. You have been hereby warned Mr Moderator. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208400
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    - OT: An MCNGP Christmas I originally posted this on December 24, 2002, so most of you may not recognize/remember some of the names... So I'm not Dylan Thomas... sue me. Twas the night before Christmas and all through the list Not an MCNGP was posting Most of them were pissed. Network Guru in his nightgown and Steve-O in his pumps Had just settled down to share some brain dumps When suddenly on the list there arose such a clatter that we all logged at once to see what was the matter. We scanned the new posts no OT's found for a gamer Mostly trolls from Tom, our latest Lamer. When what to our wondering eyes did we see But Consultant® and several other MCNGP "I'm in a good mood, so I'll not start a flame." And then he began chanting, calling them all by name. "On Keyboard, On Mean, On Frisbee and Sue" "That's NOT what I meant, Frisbee, You know what to do!" "On Rob, On Glenn, and Diamond Jim" "Can't find Batman, anyone seen him?" "On Angry, On MCSENada, and Sweet Michelle" "She's a babe, for sure... Can't you tell?" "On Don Julio, come on now, On JYTC" "On Laura, the animatron, our secret fantasy." "To the top of the list, reply to that post" "Let's see who can quote obscure movies the most" The whole group together can be quite a sight Merry Christmas to all We're too tired to fight. -- Fris "Scrooge you" bee®, MCNGP #13 The MCNGP Team - We're here to help! http://www.mcngp.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208396
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    - OT: Poetic Justice? Take my job will ya? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16157113/ 0x22 SFW? Well, it is a news story. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208332
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    - Confused! What exactly is this group for? Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208290
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    - OT: interesting In the realm of what is possible and what was not, I would have thought this was not. An ASCII autostereogram gererator. http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/aa3d/ SFW 0x22 Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208285
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    - Eruption in the West Take cover JaR, the sky is falling, the sky is falling. Mt. St. Helens Live (kinda): http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/ Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208284
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    - MCSE / How do you do it?!?!? Hi All, I'm about 1 month in to starting my MCSE 2003. I've had the Microsoft Press books for a year or so now but I've only really just had the time to look at them (I've been busy). I'm starting with the 70-290 exam and so far I've read the book and I've also been studying the 'TestOut' module for the 70-290 exam. I'm also using 'Transcenders' to check my progress and go back and study any bits I feel I need work on. I guess the point of my post is just to see what other people are doing in terms of studying. I think between the Microsoft Press books, 'Testout' and 'Trancenders' I should have the exam covered. I really think reading the book cover to cover is very important though. Watching the 'TestOut' video is really good and it re-enforces that knowledge but you actually need to put the effort in to reading the book as opposed to just sitting down, watching a video and then doing some simple practical bits. I've got about 8 years IT experience behind me and I'm 25 (just in case anyone was wondering) - oh and I'm also using VMWARE to set up test domains etc etc. Without VMWARE I'd be really REALLY struggling!! Look forward to hearing how other people are doing. G. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208256
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    - [OT] JotD What do you call a Vegetarian w/ D!@rrhea? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A Salad Shooter! Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208242
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    - 70-284 Hi Can anyone give me the length and the number of questions of the exam 70-284? Thanks Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208236
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    - [OT] Work is boring today. Any thoughts on the Civilian Nuclear Pact w/ India? http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-12-18-bush-india_x.htm Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208201
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    - Obtain Mcse,Mcsa,Mcdba,Mcsd .Net,Ccna,Ccnp Without Exams(Pay After Check Resutls)100% Passing Gaurantee hi friends if anyone need to clear MCSE,MCSA,MCDBA,MCSD,MCSD.NET,CCNA,CCNP,A+,N+,SECURITY+Without exams and study.. we will give the exams on ur bahalf..make u pass in that and charge some extra amount from u.. Then here the search END.. Benifits:- 1. No need to Give EXAMS by Urself. 2. Need not to go on any testing site to give exams. 3. 100% Passing Gaurantee. 4. U have to pay US after checking ur results online. 5. Got certifications at ur Doorstep. Things we Need from the candidates :- 1. Their full name ( that he need to appear on his scoresheet and certificate). 2. Their Full address ( for certificaiton De;ivery) 3. Their Passport And Driving liciense colour scan copy(as photo id proof) 4. Cell as well as landline number with country code 5. Correct exam numbers( that candidates want to do) procedure :- Provide us ur these detials then we will sit on our own several testing site (vue and prometric both) do ur exams and then send u ur scorehseets..by using that scoresheet u will easily able to check ur result online...and when u will check ur results...only then u have to send us payment. No Payment in advance required..but in the case of microsoft exams only.. for other tests candidate need to send us half payment in advance.. prices :- Microsoft any exam :- 400 usd ccna :- 999 usd ccnp :- 1200 usd each exam comptia A+ :- 1400 usd each exam comptia net+ :- 1300 usd comptia security + = 1300 usd Citrix each exam :- 1000 usd sap each exam :- 1200 usd oracle 9i :- 3400 usd oracle 10g :- 4800 ussd Microsoft Business Solution each exam :-1500usd(including exam fee) contact info :- mail us at :- all_certs@yahoo.com Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208194
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    - OT: Enhanced Reduced Functionlity Things that make you go hmmmm... Vista offers Enhanced Reduced Functionlity http://tinyurl.com/tqy66 http://www.techworld.com/security/blogs/index.cfm?blogid=1&entryid=342 0x22 Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208189
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    - Give Back to IT Community (Help) Guys, I want to start giving back to the IT Community, and start helping out. I would appreciate if you guys could answer some of the below questions. 1. How do you guys read your newsgroup subscriptions? Software or Via Web? List which do you use. 2. Which web portals do you recommend to use to read/respond to posts & blogs during lunch/break at work? (At work I cant access newsgroups or blogs via a program or nntp) 3. What program do you guys use for managing your blog subscriptions? Software or Via Web? List which do you use. 4. How do you keep track of all the messages you've posted or replied too, this way you can follow-up on it, in case someone responds? 5. Do you guys provide your email address in your posts? If you do, how do you handle protecting yourself from spam? If you dont, how does anyone ever get a hold of you, if needed? 6. Out of curiosity, what email provider do you use, and what program do you use to read your emails? 7. What do I need to do to make sure I get credit for giving back to the community, this way I can work my way up to an MVP? 8. How else can I become part of the IT community and start giving back and networking? Any Ideas? I appreciate you taking your time to respond to my posts, and I plan to begin giving back to the IT community, and hope we can become friends. - Julio (DJ) Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208180
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    - advice hi I am a Computer Information Systems student...I am new to this MCSE thing..I really don't know do I really need it??What do I do first, and how do I get it?? Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208160
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    - What after MCSE Hi, I have just completed MCSE-Security and looking for a job based on MCSE. Currently, my job profile is not much related to MCSE. If someone can advise, which certification should I pursue to make me more marketable? Thanks Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208143
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    - MCSE = MCSA? stupid question (maybe) Is an MCSE automatically an MCSA? I ask because I saw a guys email signature display both - isn't that redundat? or should I change my signature too?? Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208128
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    - Exam insurance Has anyone purchase and used Microsoft recent offer (exam insurance) ..I saw on Microsoft website that you will receive a FREE TechNet plus express subscription with the purchase of exam insurance and register to take one of Microsoft exams by Jan 31st. Sounds like a great deal but I did call a few testing site and no one seems to be aware of this.. Is this for real..??? TIA Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208113
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    - MCSE 2003 (Recommendations on Exam Study Material, Specific Exams, & Order to take Exams) I am a Network Administrator with about 9 years of experience in IT. I deal with a Windows 2003 network, where I am responsible for my child domain & a total of 200 servers & 700 workstations. My certifications are as follows: - CCNA (expired this year, need to retake it now) - MCSE + I (NT 4 Track) - Comptia: A+, Network+ & Linux+ 1. I would appreciate your recommendations on what exams to take for the MCSE? 2. In what particular order is it best to study and take the exams? 3. Recommended Study material for each of the exams I appreciate you taking time to respond to my post. Thanks in advance, Julio C. Delgado Jr. (DJ) Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208112
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    - OT: Thursday Thermometer Here's a post I got in my local Freecycle mail list just now (I think I'll pass): I have a digital thermometer, the kind you put in your mouth, under your arm, or rectal. It has been used but not that much. My son will not keep it in his mouth so I had to get an ear thermometer. Pick up in NW GNV. thank you Melissa Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208109
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    - OT: It's not one world http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236261,00.html Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208098
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    - Spare a thought this holiday season As the holidays get nearer most of up will be preparing for the festive season by sending time with friends and our loved ones. The festive season ought to be happy joyful time for all, however sadly this is not the case for all. So I ask you all to spare a thought for all those poor MCNGP members who unfortunately have no friends, whose only crumb of comfort at this time of year will be posting to this newsgroup on the 25th. I know they are all jerks, but thy are all alone with no one to comfort them. So please remember them while you are making merry and enjoying the Christmas sprit. So please raise a glass of wine and spare a thought for the unfortunate MCNGP while you are eating your Christmas turkey and mince pies for they will have none. Tag: juniper exams ? Tag: 208093

iam looking to purchase certmagic.com package for juniper exams.
are they close to real exams ?

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TurkReno
Sun Dec 31 23:22:44 CST 2006

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> are they close to real exams ?
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