=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22With_that_being_said=2C_its_time_to_turn_off_the_stov?=

So are the final words of Paisley Skye, locking the "Mafia" MCNGP thread on
her web site, posting a rather lengthy diatribe and then not allowing anyone
to reply.

Methinks she took her own advice except that she managed to keep others out
of her kitchen.

Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh?

--
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http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
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Consultant
Tue Jan 06 15:28:28 CST 2004

Childish. Refusing to point out her own moderators that were slamming people
and making invalid points. But let them live in their own little world.
Their site is for one thing, to sell books.

--
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Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1
www.mcngp.tk


"Frisbee® MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
news:ugYtmnJ1DHA.2972@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> So are the final words of Paisley Skye, locking the "Mafia" MCNGP thread
on
> her web site, posting a rather lengthy diatribe and then not allowing
anyone
> to reply.
>
> Methinks she took her own advice except that she managed to keep others
out
> of her kitchen.
>
> Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh?
>
> --
> Fris "Makes fun of the dyslexic" bee® MCNGP #13
>
> http://www.mcngp.tk
> The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
> Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help
>
>

Ken
Tue Jan 06 15:29:13 CST 2004

I don't get it. If you turn off the stove, there'll be no heat. And if
there's no heat, you won't have to make the decision on whether or not
you'll have to leave the kitchen. Of course, it's winter, so without the
heat, it might get chilly in the kitchen. So you should either turn the
stove back on, or get out of the kitchen. Or call a HVAC tech to come fix
your thermostat.


--

KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

The
Tue Jan 06 15:39:07 CST 2004

<quote ='Paisleyskye'>

Regardless of what the MCNGP chooses to believe the MCSE is an
entry-level cert

</quote>

Comments welcome.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:13:13 -0500, Frisbee® MCNGP
<oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote:

>So are the final words of Paisley Skye, locking the "Mafia" MCNGP thread on
>her web site, posting a rather lengthy diatribe and then not allowing anyone
>to reply.
>
>Methinks she took her own advice except that she managed to keep others out
>of her kitchen.
>
>Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh?


Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Jtyc
Tue Jan 06 15:42:21 CST 2004

> Regardless of what the MCNGP chooses to believe the MCSE is an
> entry-level cert

I agree it's an entry level cert. That's why I'm irritated. It should not
be an entry level cert. People setting permissions and supporting backups
should not be designing your infrastructure.


Perhaps I'm alone in this view.

The
Tue Jan 06 15:46:46 CST 2004

>I agree it's an entry level cert. That's why I'm irritated. It should not
>be an entry level cert. People setting permissions and supporting backups
>should not be designing your infrastructure.

Exactly.

>Perhaps I'm alone in this view.

Hardly.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The
Tue Jan 06 15:48:34 CST 2004

BTW, stop chewing on that piece of cat5.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:13:13 -0500, Frisbee® MCNGP
<oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote:

>So are the final words of Paisley Skye, locking the "Mafia" MCNGP thread on
>her web site, posting a rather lengthy diatribe and then not allowing anyone
>to reply.
>
>Methinks she took her own advice except that she managed to keep others out
>of her kitchen.
>
>Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh?


Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

oncebitten
Tue Jan 06 15:46:36 CST 2004

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere wrote:
> <quote ='Paisleyskye'>
>
> Regardless of what the MCNGP chooses to believe the MCSE is an
> entry-level cert
>
> </quote>
>
> Comments welcome.

That pretty much sums up her argument, even though I got the impression that
the sites moderators and other posters did not agree. Spock posted a link
and quoted MS's own site as stating that one year's experience was
recommended, and in another quote when it described an MCSE, it stated that
the person WOULD HAVE one year's experience.

Personally, I thought the conversation was interesting, and not out of hand,
yet she slammed the door shut, making sure she vented her opinion again
before doing so.


--
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http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help

Consultant
Tue Jan 06 15:51:22 CST 2004

thus the reason the mcngp was born. a professional cert, that must be earned
and can only be granted by it's creators. it can never be tainted nor can
people cheat their way into it.
--
Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1
www.mcngp.tk

"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:v3bmvv8ftcvbanefqg5eqp6as9dnkolrjo@4ax.com...
> >I agree it's an entry level cert. That's why I'm irritated. It should
not
> >be an entry level cert. People setting permissions and supporting
backups
> >should not be designing your infrastructure.
>
> Exactly.
>
> >Perhaps I'm alone in this view.
>
> Hardly.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The
Tue Jan 06 15:53:59 CST 2004

>Personally, I thought the conversation was interesting, and not out of hand,
>yet she slammed the door shut, making sure she vented her opinion again
>before doing so.

True.

Pram, throws toys out of, comes to mind.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The
Tue Jan 06 15:55:18 CST 2004

>Of course, it's winter,

Not in Australia.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Jtyc
Tue Jan 06 15:54:34 CST 2004

> Fris "What disability should I make fun of next?" bee® MCNGP #13

I vote for leprosy.






*Disclaimer. For those of you to uptight to realize, I'm trying to be
funny. I have nothing against lepers.

Jtyc
Tue Jan 06 15:57:47 CST 2004

> Not in Australia.

Dirty bastard...


Nice country by the way. From what I could see in Perth anyhoo.

The
Tue Jan 06 16:06:38 CST 2004

>Nice country by the way.

Very nice country. Worked out there for a few months, several years
back. Was hoping to get assigned back there , won't happen now though.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

JaR
Tue Jan 06 16:45:47 CST 2004

"Frisbee® MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
news:ugYtmnJ1DHA.2972@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh?
>
>
I can't believe it. Just when the thread was getting interesting, the Drama
Queen shuts it sown. "Slamming" her moderators??? Oh My Gawd! Altho I was
getting really tired of all the little yellow emoticons.

But then what would you expect. If it weren't for wide-eyed 'newbies' lining
up to get one of them there MCSEs, she wouldn't have a reason for that
website.

I wonder if she wears sandals, and has a great big old crystal on a
necklace.

That's probably an uncalled for 'slam'. Come over here and I'll kiss your
boo-boo.

JaR
Thug #7..........7............7........

JaR
Tue Jan 06 17:30:16 CST 2004


"JaR" <plente@nospamsofthome.net> wrote in message

Altho I was
> getting really tired of all the little yellow emoticons.
>
>

BTW, could you believe some of those wierdos' avatars?

iCertify
Tue Jan 06 17:39:01 CST 2004

You guys were going off on a tagent, I let you post 12 pages of crap, and
then I closed the thread. I can't help it if you couldn't make yourself
look good in a 12 page thread.

--
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http://www.icertify.net
Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
articles, interviews
with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
"Frisbee® MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
news:ugYtmnJ1DHA.2972@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> So are the final words of Paisley Skye, locking the "Mafia" MCNGP thread
on
> her web site, posting a rather lengthy diatribe and then not allowing
anyone
> to reply.
>
> Methinks she took her own advice except that she managed to keep others
out
> of her kitchen.
>
> Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh?
>
> --
> Fris "Makes fun of the dyslexic" bee® MCNGP #13
>
> http://www.mcngp.tk
> The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
> Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help
>
>

iCertify
Tue Jan 06 17:39:34 CST 2004

Again, no where on the site will you see that we are selling books. We are
not a commercial site. It's a labor of love for me.

--
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http://www.icertify.net
Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
articles, interviews
with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp_removepants@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eJQhnuJ1DHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Childish. Refusing to point out her own moderators that were slamming
people
> and making invalid points. But let them live in their own little world.
> Their site is for one thing, to sell books.
>
> --
> Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
> Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1
> www.mcngp.tk
>
>
> "Frisbee® MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
> news:ugYtmnJ1DHA.2972@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > So are the final words of Paisley Skye, locking the "Mafia" MCNGP thread
> on
> > her web site, posting a rather lengthy diatribe and then not allowing
> anyone
> > to reply.
> >
> > Methinks she took her own advice except that she managed to keep others
> out
> > of her kitchen.
> >
> > Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh?
> >
> > --
> > Fris "Makes fun of the dyslexic" bee® MCNGP #13
> >
> > http://www.mcngp.tk
> > The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
> > Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help
> >
> >
>
>

iCertify
Tue Jan 06 17:42:21 CST 2004

Again, the thread was out of control, I made one final post in the thread
(Isn't that an admins job - you would've been madder had I locked it with no
explanation. The only people who seem to think the thread was locked
prematurely are the MCNGP.

--
Paisleyskye
http://www.icertify.net
Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
articles, interviews
with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
"Frisbee® MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
news:uuL#Q6J1DHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere wrote:
> > <quote ='Paisleyskye'>
> >
> > Regardless of what the MCNGP chooses to believe the MCSE is an
> > entry-level cert
> >
> > </quote>
> >
> > Comments welcome.
>
> That pretty much sums up her argument, even though I got the impression
that
> the sites moderators and other posters did not agree. Spock posted a link
> and quoted MS's own site as stating that one year's experience was
> recommended, and in another quote when it described an MCSE, it stated
that
> the person WOULD HAVE one year's experience.
>
> Personally, I thought the conversation was interesting, and not out of
hand,
> yet she slammed the door shut, making sure she vented her opinion again
> before doing so.
>
>
> --
> Fris "What disability should I make fun of next?" bee® MCNGP #13
>
> http://www.mcngp.tk
> The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
> Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help
>

Jtyc
Tue Jan 06 17:51:35 CST 2004

> You guys were going off on a tagent, I let you post 12 pages of crap, and
> then I closed the thread. I can't help it if you couldn't make yourself
> look good in a 12 page thread.

Ha! I couldn't make myself look good in 50 pages of crap, so there!



uh... wait a minute...

iCertify
Tue Jan 06 17:54:41 CST 2004

Well guys, nice to see you have nothing better to do than to continue
slamming me. Oh well, at least you are giving everybody else a break while
for some reason I'm being bestowed your constant attention.

Most of you who are reading this thread, have read numerous threads in the
past few days including "Rudeness is unacceptable", "OT Paisleyskye", and
Paisleyskye Help or Hinderance". I'm sure most of you will agree that the
groups attentions might have been better spent helping people. You've seen
the way they act in this newsgroup, and you see them in this thread trying
to justify themselves. If you haven't read the thread on my site its at:
http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955 . I'm
sure you will see exactly why the thread had to be closed, unless of course
you are a member of the MCNGP.

You will also come to understand why Consultant was banned - although I
shouldn't have to explain it to anybody anyway. He would have been banned
off other sites for the way he conducted himself.

Just to clarify - my site is not commercial and is a labor of love for me -
I make no money off of it.

I refuse to post on this topic again unless there is something that I feel
absolutely needs to be cleared up.

--
Paisleyskye
http://www.icertify.net
Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
articles, interviews
with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
"

JaR
Tue Jan 06 18:02:12 CST 2004

"iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vvmilepohp9va1@corp.supernews.com...
> Well guys, nice to see you have nothing better to do than to continue
> slamming me.

No sweetheart, we're not slamming you.

We're laughing our butts off at you.

Drama Queen.

JaR
Thug #XX

Jtyc
Tue Jan 06 18:07:10 CST 2004

Don't you believe in just idle banter? You seem like you need to be formal
at all times. It is possible to help people and still have a sense of
humor.

Politician
Wed Jan 07 07:46:16 CST 2004

"iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vvmhp5n2ldbr55@corp.supernews.com...
> Again, no where on the site will you see that we are selling books. We
are
> not a commercial site. It's a labor of love for me.
>

Liar. Check your "Certification Resources - Microsoft - Recommended Books".
For that matter check the Recommended Books under any of the Certification
Resources. They all point to tour vendor account with Amazon.com.

--
Politician Spock
MCSA, CCEA, MCNGP #15
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
You assume all risk for your use. Not responsible for your inability to
understand logic, ambiguous references, sarcasm, the imaginary gnomes
living in my garden, or William Shatner's acting.
© 2003 Star Trek Federation. All rights reserved.

Politician
Wed Jan 07 07:48:02 CST 2004

"iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vvmhub41p72c0e@corp.supernews.com...
> Again, the thread was out of control, I made one final post in the thread
> (Isn't that an admins job - you would've been madder had I locked it with
no
> explanation. The only people who seem to think the thread was locked
> prematurely are the MCNGP.
>

The only people who thought Larry shouldn't have been banned was the MCNGP
as well. Eventually you saw that you were wrong to ban him. Perhaps you were
wrong to close the thread as well.

--
Politician Spock
MCSA, CCEA, MCNGP #15
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
You assume all risk for your use. Not responsible for your inability to
understand logic, ambiguous references, sarcasm, the imaginary gnomes
living in my garden, or William Shatner's acting.
© 2003 Star Trek Federation. All rights reserved.

Politician
Wed Jan 07 07:50:18 CST 2004

"iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vvmho3m1vo0l28@corp.supernews.com...
> You guys were going off on a tagent, I let you post 12 pages of crap, and
> then I closed the thread. I can't help it if you couldn't make yourself
> look good in a 12 page thread.
>

If we weren't making ourselves look good, then it would be to your benefit
to let the thread continue.

<thinks to self: I hate it when people don't use logic in justifying their
actions>

--
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MCSA, CCEA, MCNGP #15
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
You assume all risk for your use. Not responsible for your inability to
understand logic, ambiguous references, sarcasm, the imaginary gnomes
living in my garden, or William Shatner's acting.
© 2003 Star Trek Federation. All rights reserved.

Consultant
Wed Jan 07 09:04:48 CST 2004

laboring to love that money. you aint foolin no one
--
Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1
www.mcngp.tk

"Politician Spock" <rhammersmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23LTA9SS1DHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:vvmhp5n2ldbr55@corp.supernews.com...
> > Again, no where on the site will you see that we are selling books. We
> are
> > not a commercial site. It's a labor of love for me.
> >
>
> Liar. Check your "Certification Resources - Microsoft - Recommended
Books".
> For that matter check the Recommended Books under any of the Certification
> Resources. They all point to tour vendor account with Amazon.com.
>
> --
> Politician Spock
> MCSA, CCEA, MCNGP #15
> The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> You assume all risk for your use. Not responsible for your inability to
> understand logic, ambiguous references, sarcasm, the imaginary gnomes
> living in my garden, or William Shatner's acting.
> © 2003 Star Trek Federation. All rights reserved.
>
>
>

Consultant
Wed Jan 07 09:06:06 CST 2004

scary
--
Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1
www.mcngp.tk

"JaR" <plente@nospamsofthome.net> wrote in message
news:O7e9Y0K1DHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> "JaR" <plente@nospamsofthome.net> wrote in message
>
> Altho I was
> > getting really tired of all the little yellow emoticons.
> >
> >
>
> BTW, could you believe some of those wierdos' avatars?
>
>
>

Consultant
Wed Jan 07 09:07:11 CST 2004

so when we try to start a new thread, you delete it and then ban us? so much
for your encouraging free speech. pfffft
--
Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1
www.mcngp.tk

"iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vvmho3m1vo0l28@corp.supernews.com...
> You guys were going off on a tagent, I let you post 12 pages of crap, and
> then I closed the thread. I can't help it if you couldn't make yourself
> look good in a 12 page thread.
>
> --
> Paisleyskye
> http://www.icertify.net
> Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
> articles, interviews
> with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
> "Frisbee® MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
> news:ugYtmnJ1DHA.2972@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > So are the final words of Paisley Skye, locking the "Mafia" MCNGP thread
> on
> > her web site, posting a rather lengthy diatribe and then not allowing
> anyone
> > to reply.
> >
> > Methinks she took her own advice except that she managed to keep others
> out
> > of her kitchen.
> >
> > Nothing like having the power of having the last word, eh?
> >
> > --
> > Fris "Makes fun of the dyslexic" bee® MCNGP #13
> >
> > http://www.mcngp.tk
> > The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
> > Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help
> >
> >
>
>

Consultant
Wed Jan 07 09:09:12 CST 2004

banned for speaking the truth. the fact of the matter is, you won't find any
support here, so you might as well leave already.

--
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Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1
www.mcngp.tk

"iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vvmilepohp9va1@corp.supernews.com...
> Well guys, nice to see you have nothing better to do than to continue
> slamming me. Oh well, at least you are giving everybody else a break
while
> for some reason I'm being bestowed your constant attention.
>
> Most of you who are reading this thread, have read numerous threads in the
> past few days including "Rudeness is unacceptable", "OT Paisleyskye", and
> Paisleyskye Help or Hinderance". I'm sure most of you will agree that the
> groups attentions might have been better spent helping people. You've
seen
> the way they act in this newsgroup, and you see them in this thread trying
> to justify themselves. If you haven't read the thread on my site its at:
> http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955 .
I'm
> sure you will see exactly why the thread had to be closed, unless of
course
> you are a member of the MCNGP.
>
> You will also come to understand why Consultant was banned - although I
> shouldn't have to explain it to anybody anyway. He would have been banned
> off other sites for the way he conducted himself.
>
> Just to clarify - my site is not commercial and is a labor of love for
me -
> I make no money off of it.
>
> I refuse to post on this topic again unless there is something that I feel
> absolutely needs to be cleared up.
>
> --
> Paisleyskye
> http://www.icertify.net
> Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
> articles, interviews
> with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
> "
>
>

Consultant
Wed Jan 07 09:09:12 CST 2004

banned for speaking the truth. the fact of the matter is, you won't find any
support here, so you might as well leave already.

--
Consultant, MCNGP Founding Father
Lead Thug, Public Enemy #1
www.mcngp.tk

"iCertify.net" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:vvmilepohp9va1@corp.supernews.com...
> Well guys, nice to see you have nothing better to do than to continue
> slamming me. Oh well, at least you are giving everybody else a break
while
> for some reason I'm being bestowed your constant attention.
>
> Most of you who are reading this thread, have read numerous threads in the
> past few days including "Rudeness is unacceptable", "OT Paisleyskye", and
> Paisleyskye Help or Hinderance". I'm sure most of you will agree that the
> groups attentions might have been better spent helping people. You've
seen
> the way they act in this newsgroup, and you see them in this thread trying
> to justify themselves. If you haven't read the thread on my site its at:
> http://www.icertify.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=955 .
I'm
> sure you will see exactly why the thread had to be closed, unless of
course
> you are a member of the MCNGP.
>
> You will also come to understand why Consultant was banned - although I
> shouldn't have to explain it to anybody anyway. He would have been banned
> off other sites for the way he conducted himself.
>
> Just to clarify - my site is not commercial and is a labor of love for
me -
> I make no money off of it.
>
> I refuse to post on this topic again unless there is something that I feel
> absolutely needs to be cleared up.
>
> --
> Paisleyskye
> http://www.icertify.net
> Forums, study guides, practice tests, QOD's, InfoSec newsletter, great
> articles, interviews
> with the hottest certification authors and so much more...
> "
>
>

Jtyc
Tue Jan 13 12:59:21 CST 2004

> DOH!!

Talk about a late post... You need to give that computer of yours a little
kick.

Brat
Tue Jan 13 13:11:30 CST 2004

lol it was my providers server... I just noticed a few of mine showed up...
all dated the 7th just appearing today... I changed servers.. now posts are
appearing ontime

--
Sue Thugette #69

"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersdie.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eCjl4bg2DHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > DOH!!
>
> Talk about a late post... You need to give that computer of yours a
little
> kick.
>
>