Any exchange server 2000 expert here?

Hi,

I have some issues with my exchange server 2000

1. Spam issue
Whenever I checked the "Allow all computers which successfully authenicate
to relay, regardless the list above", spammer would able to hack in the
exchange server and send out ten thoursands of spam using my exchange
server.
I am not sure why that is happening because the options I checked require
computers to be authenicated before the relay.
The reason I check this box is because I have a few branch offices relay on
my exchange server to send emails. And some locations won't have a static
IP, so I can't really specify a certain range of IP addresses to relay.
I finally bought a firewall and setup vpn connections from those remote
offices and mobile laptops clients in order to relay the exchange server.
Out of curiousity, how did the spammer authenicate to my exchange server in
the first place?

2. Email issue.
When a staff send email to the distribution list from the global address
book. One of the individual is having problem getting the email. The error
message is below and some of the information like name, IP and domain info
are modified. When I tried to send email to this individual instead of
using the distribution list and he has no problem getting my emails. I
wonder why. I hope someone is able to help me. Thanks

From: System Administrator
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:29 PM
To: Peter Alexander
Subject: Undeliverable: Board Meeting Announcement
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
Subject: Board Meeting Announcement
Sent: 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

Peter Alexander on 10/31/2003 12:29 PM

There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server.
Please contact your system administrator.

<exchange.abc.com #5.5.0 smtp;571 from 200.100.52.100 We do not relay>

Karl
Sun Nov 02 02:18:51 CST 2003

Hate to tell you stuff you may already know...
For the 2nd problem did you check that the smtp settings on his AD
account were ok? If you can email him manually but not from the
distribution list then this is the only thing I can think of straight
up.
Sorry I can;t help you any more. Good luck.

"Bay" <Bay@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:l%Tob.57921$mZ5.344263@attbi_s54...
> Hi,
>
> I have some issues with my exchange server 2000
>
> 1. Spam issue
> Whenever I checked the "Allow all computers which successfully
authenicate
> to relay, regardless the list above", spammer would able to hack in
the
> exchange server and send out ten thoursands of spam using my
exchange
> server.
> I am not sure why that is happening because the options I checked
require
> computers to be authenicated before the relay.
> The reason I check this box is because I have a few branch offices
relay on
> my exchange server to send emails. And some locations won't have a
static
> IP, so I can't really specify a certain range of IP addresses to
relay.
> I finally bought a firewall and setup vpn connections from those
remote
> offices and mobile laptops clients in order to relay the exchange
server.
> Out of curiousity, how did the spammer authenicate to my exchange
server in
> the first place?
>
> 2. Email issue.
> When a staff send email to the distribution list from the global
address
> book. One of the individual is having problem getting the email.
The error
> message is below and some of the information like name, IP and
domain info
> are modified. When I tried to send email to this individual instead
of
> using the distribution list and he has no problem getting my emails.
I
> wonder why. I hope someone is able to help me. Thanks
>
> From: System Administrator
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:29 PM
> To: Peter Alexander
> Subject: Undeliverable: Board Meeting Announcement
> Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
> Subject: Board Meeting Announcement
> Sent: 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
> The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
>
> Peter Alexander on 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
>
> There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email
server.
> Please contact your system administrator.
>
> <exchange.abc.com #5.5.0 smtp;571 from 200.100.52.100 We do not
relay>
>
>
>
>

Bay
Sun Nov 02 03:16:22 CST 2003

It is a contact not a domain user account. The settings are fine because the
problem didn't happen until recently. Thanks for your message thou.

"Karl "Johnno" Gustaf" <johnno333@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u4F50nRoDHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hate to tell you stuff you may already know...
> For the 2nd problem did you check that the smtp settings on his AD
> account were ok? If you can email him manually but not from the
> distribution list then this is the only thing I can think of straight
> up.
> Sorry I can;t help you any more. Good luck.
>
> "Bay" <Bay@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:l%Tob.57921$mZ5.344263@attbi_s54...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have some issues with my exchange server 2000
> >
> > 1. Spam issue
> > Whenever I checked the "Allow all computers which successfully
> authenicate
> > to relay, regardless the list above", spammer would able to hack in
> the
> > exchange server and send out ten thoursands of spam using my
> exchange
> > server.
> > I am not sure why that is happening because the options I checked
> require
> > computers to be authenicated before the relay.
> > The reason I check this box is because I have a few branch offices
> relay on
> > my exchange server to send emails. And some locations won't have a
> static
> > IP, so I can't really specify a certain range of IP addresses to
> relay.
> > I finally bought a firewall and setup vpn connections from those
> remote
> > offices and mobile laptops clients in order to relay the exchange
> server.
> > Out of curiousity, how did the spammer authenicate to my exchange
> server in
> > the first place?
> >
> > 2. Email issue.
> > When a staff send email to the distribution list from the global
> address
> > book. One of the individual is having problem getting the email.
> The error
> > message is below and some of the information like name, IP and
> domain info
> > are modified. When I tried to send email to this individual instead
> of
> > using the distribution list and he has no problem getting my emails.
> I
> > wonder why. I hope someone is able to help me. Thanks
> >
> > From: System Administrator
> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:29 PM
> > To: Peter Alexander
> > Subject: Undeliverable: Board Meeting Announcement
> > Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
> > Subject: Board Meeting Announcement
> > Sent: 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
> > The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
> >
> > Peter Alexander on 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
> >
> > There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email
> server.
> > Please contact your system administrator.
> >
> > <exchange.abc.com #5.5.0 smtp;571 from 200.100.52.100 We do not
> relay>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Thierry
Sun Nov 02 16:51:21 CST 2003

Bay wrote:
> It is a contact not a domain user account. The settings are fine because
the
> problem didn't happen until recently. Thanks for your message thou.
>
> "Karl "Johnno" Gustaf" <johnno333@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u4F50nRoDHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Hate to tell you stuff you may already know...
...
Hi.

For yor First issue, I know a possibility!

If you activate/authorize the guest account, all spammers are considered as
"authenticated as guest".
=> So relay is allowed to them! You must not activate this account to
disallow relay.

Bye.
--
Thierry DEMAN-BARCELÒ
MVP Exchange,SQL/Server
FAQ Exchange: http://faqexchange.dyndns.org ou http://exchange.faq.free.fr
Site personnel: http://webfamilial.dyndns.org/thierry/pageprincipale.htm
http://tdeman.free.fr/thierry/pageprincipale.htm

simon
Mon Nov 03 03:23:29 CST 2003

Have a look at the following

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF005.html

Simon
"Bay" <Bay@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:l%Tob.57921$mZ5.344263@attbi_s54...
> Hi,
>
> I have some issues with my exchange server 2000
>
> 1. Spam issue
> Whenever I checked the "Allow all computers which successfully authenicate
> to relay, regardless the list above", spammer would able to hack in the
> exchange server and send out ten thoursands of spam using my exchange
> server.
> I am not sure why that is happening because the options I checked require
> computers to be authenicated before the relay.
> The reason I check this box is because I have a few branch offices relay
on
> my exchange server to send emails. And some locations won't have a static
> IP, so I can't really specify a certain range of IP addresses to relay.
> I finally bought a firewall and setup vpn connections from those remote
> offices and mobile laptops clients in order to relay the exchange server.
> Out of curiousity, how did the spammer authenicate to my exchange server
in
> the first place?
>
> 2. Email issue.
> When a staff send email to the distribution list from the global address
> book. One of the individual is having problem getting the email. The
error
> message is below and some of the information like name, IP and domain info
> are modified. When I tried to send email to this individual instead of
> using the distribution list and he has no problem getting my emails. I
> wonder why. I hope someone is able to help me. Thanks
>
> From: System Administrator
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:29 PM
> To: Peter Alexander
> Subject: Undeliverable: Board Meeting Announcement
> Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
> Subject: Board Meeting Announcement
> Sent: 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
> The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
>
> Peter Alexander on 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
>
> There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server.
> Please contact your system administrator.
>
> <exchange.abc.com #5.5.0 smtp;571 from 200.100.52.100 We do not relay>
>
>
>
>

Consultant
Mon Nov 03 08:59:05 CST 2003

why dont you post to the exchange newsgroup?


"Bay" <Bay@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:l%Tob.57921$mZ5.344263@attbi_s54...
> Hi,
>
> I have some issues with my exchange server 2000
>
> 1. Spam issue
> Whenever I checked the "Allow all computers which successfully authenicate
> to relay, regardless the list above", spammer would able to hack in the
> exchange server and send out ten thoursands of spam using my exchange
> server.
> I am not sure why that is happening because the options I checked require
> computers to be authenicated before the relay.
> The reason I check this box is because I have a few branch offices relay
on
> my exchange server to send emails. And some locations won't have a static
> IP, so I can't really specify a certain range of IP addresses to relay.
> I finally bought a firewall and setup vpn connections from those remote
> offices and mobile laptops clients in order to relay the exchange server.
> Out of curiousity, how did the spammer authenicate to my exchange server
in
> the first place?
>
> 2. Email issue.
> When a staff send email to the distribution list from the global address
> book. One of the individual is having problem getting the email. The
error
> message is below and some of the information like name, IP and domain info
> are modified. When I tried to send email to this individual instead of
> using the distribution list and he has no problem getting my emails. I
> wonder why. I hope someone is able to help me. Thanks
>
> From: System Administrator
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:29 PM
> To: Peter Alexander
> Subject: Undeliverable: Board Meeting Announcement
> Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
> Subject: Board Meeting Announcement
> Sent: 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
> The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
>
> Peter Alexander on 10/31/2003 12:29 PM
>
> There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server.
> Please contact your system administrator.
>
> <exchange.abc.com #5.5.0 smtp;571 from 200.100.52.100 We do not relay>
>
>
>
>

Marlin
Mon Nov 03 16:40:43 CST 2003 Deleted

Consultant
Mon Nov 03 16:47:10 CST 2003 Deleted

NEW
Mon Nov 03 16:48:20 CST 2003 Deleted

Jtyc
Mon Nov 03 16:55:42 CST 2003

> super-fast answers for non-IT-related questions. All I do is
WWW.GOOGLE.COM

Google is spelled googol, not google. Google it if you don't believe me.

Kline
Mon Nov 03 16:57:17 CST 2003

>dude, you made me laughed. Many times users were stunned when I gave them
>super-fast answers for non-IT-related questions. All I do is WWW.GOOGLE.COM

Wow! Do have any transcender's for this 'ere WW.GOOGLE.COM?

NEW
Mon Nov 03 17:06:48 CST 2003

not yet. Should I start the business?

"Kline Sphere" <-> wrote in message
news:o8ndqvkdko198mp6omanjqco92pcfvk77k@4ax.com...
> >dude, you made me laughed. Many times users were stunned when I gave
them
> >super-fast answers for non-IT-related questions. All I do is
WWW.GOOGLE.COM
>
> Wow! Do have any transcender's for this 'ere WW.GOOGLE.COM?

Kline
Mon Nov 03 17:17:38 CST 2003

>not yet. Should I start the business?

I would say so, although make sure you don't offer a money back
guarantee.

The
Mon Nov 03 17:22:37 CST 2003

too true
too funny

LOL


On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:57:17 +0000, Kline Sphere <-> wrote:

>>dude, you made me laughed. Many times users were stunned when I gave them
>>super-fast answers for non-IT-related questions. All I do is WWW.GOOGLE.COM
>
>Wow! Do have any transcender's for this 'ere WW.GOOGLE.COM?

The
Mon Nov 03 17:26:46 CST 2003

Indeed
Its difficult retaining context

you're too fast for me

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:47:10 -0800, "Consultant"
<consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:

>perhaps you should respond to the correct post.
>
>
>"Marlin Munrow" <marlin@gonefission.com> wrote in message
>news:jtkdqv41luu9q08l1oi2oladnoa5b76ddp@4ax.com...
>> I sympathise with your situation, you've posted to the MCSE news group
<<SNIP>>

NEW
Mon Nov 03 17:59:46 CST 2003

http://www.uspto.gov/

got to do fast 'cauz the dump sites can eat up my profit.

"Kline Sphere" <-> wrote in message
news:jeodqvkqar3s9cr4pldvkufitoh9qlmsd4@4ax.com...
> >not yet. Should I start the business?
>
> I would say so, although make sure you don't offer a money back
> guarantee.

Consultant
Tue Nov 04 08:56:03 CST 2003

we'll let it slide this time ;-)


"The PFY (Marlin Munrow)" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
news:rvodqvkr1buuhp48hsn5vhmpnkens5h4to@4ax.com...
> Indeed
> Its difficult retaining context
>
> you're too fast for me
>
> On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:47:10 -0800, "Consultant"
> <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >perhaps you should respond to the correct post.
> >
> >
> >"Marlin Munrow" <marlin@gonefission.com> wrote in message
> >news:jtkdqv41luu9q08l1oi2oladnoa5b76ddp@4ax.com...
> >> I sympathise with your situation, you've posted to the MCSE news group
> <<SNIP>>

Bay
Tue Nov 04 12:52:07 CST 2003

Wow..I am surprised getting so much feedback about my post here. For those
who are kind enough to share their knowledge, I thank you. I just want to
tell you that I did try to find it at google but some of the stuffs that I
found there I already knew or didn't apply to my situation. I am already
doing what people suggests and there is nothing wrong in the configuration
side, so I decide to post it here in case those who are in MCSA-M or MCSE-M
want to discuss about the problem. Most of the messages I get are "Get MCSE
like me!" or "Go to GOOGLE and look it yourself, dude!". Well.I know it is
a good thing to be a MCSE and congratulations because you are one but I don'
t see how "good" you are yet even after reviewing those suggestions that
some of you gave me because it didn't really solve the problem. If you look
at my original post, you will understand that exchange server is not a
"open" relay but spammer could still relay on the exchange and I don't have
Internet mail connector installed either. The problem is not just like that
and that's why I want a discussion.

If your intention is humiliating others who are not MCSE as you are, you got
it and I know you are MCSE now but are you really "that" good? I doubt it. I
want to be MCSE too but MCSE is not the only thing in this world and there
are always other priorities and things to take care of first. Not everyone
is MCSE and they might need direction on where to post their problems or get
help. I wonder how many of you know about everything around you and never
ask for help or advices from others. At least try to be humble and nice even
if you an expert in everything. Being nice and polite won't cost you a
thing. Peace out!

Marlin
Tue Nov 04 16:32:38 CST 2003

Mee-Ow.
I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them to
do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you come
accross too.

If you really genuinely want to learn and not just get a free
short-cut to the solution let me know.

I still suggest google. If you cant perform the basic telnet test
then call in someone who can.

The rules in all the links given are pertinent and require you to do
at least *some* research and isolation of the issue.

With no explanation of how things are placed or information like
whether or not you use NAT and/or port forwarding I cant tell you if
the threat is internal or external.

If you were to ask advice of MSPSS then you would get a very different
view I'm sure. For $200 they would doubtless send you the same links
as you've seen (oh only maybe they would only be the Micro$oft ones).

---

Assuming you're running MSX2K, Just because you havent installed an
"IMC" (or "additional" SMTP connector) doesnt mean that there isnt a
default SMTP connector somewhere being relayed off. - MSX2K is SMTP
in a big way!

Look in system manager under
SERVERNAME
--PROTOCOLS
--------SMTP

You may infact need to *add* an SMTP connector under the Connectors
folder to secure your server against the hijacking of your external ip
address. (and not having a custom SMTP connector correclty configured
may be your down fall)



On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:52:07 GMT, "Bay" <Bay@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Wow..I am surprised getting so much feedback about my post here. For those
<<SNIP>>
>thing. Peace out!
>

Consultant
Tue Nov 04 16:36:25 CST 2003

and you turned out ok, didnt you ;-)

"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
news:iq8gqvg0nenqkvjid90bq71fuiccd6uu8q@4ax.com...
> Mee-Ow.
> I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
> like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them to
> do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you come
> accross too.
>

Marlin
Tue Nov 04 16:45:43 CST 2003

No, I turned into a lonely embittered little spod.
(only one who leads his own team, does his own research and now tries
not to ride on other peoples' coat tails)

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:36:25 -0800, "Consultant"
<consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:

>and you turned out ok, didnt you ;-)
>
>"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
>news:iq8gqvg0nenqkvjid90bq71fuiccd6uu8q@4ax.com...
>> Mee-Ow.
>> I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
>> like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them to
>> do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you come
>> accross too.
>>
>

NEW
Tue Nov 04 16:44:52 CST 2003

NO.

Your MCPNP didn't let her died in peace.

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23ypZPPyoDHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> and you turned out ok, didnt you ;-)
>
> "Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
> news:iq8gqvg0nenqkvjid90bq71fuiccd6uu8q@4ax.com...
> > Mee-Ow.
> > I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
> > like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them to
> > do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you come
> > accross too.
> >
>
>

Consultant
Tue Nov 04 16:49:36 CST 2003

outstanding! i feel so proud!

"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
news:qsagqv04abpamj7qgnfc0utr6piu71uh1a@4ax.com...
> No, I turned into a lonely embittered little spod.
> (only one who leads his own team, does his own research and now tries
> not to ride on other peoples' coat tails)
>
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:36:25 -0800, "Consultant"
> <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >and you turned out ok, didnt you ;-)
> >
> >"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
> >news:iq8gqvg0nenqkvjid90bq71fuiccd6uu8q@4ax.com...
> >> Mee-Ow.
> >> I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
> >> like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them to
> >> do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you come
> >> accross too.
> >>
> >
>

Consultant
Tue Nov 04 16:50:15 CST 2003

neither has your butchering of my native tongue

"NEW NAME, OLD GUY" <PLEASE!> wrote in message
news:eQt$DVyoDHA.3320@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> NO.
>
> Your MCPNP didn't let her died in peace.
>
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ypZPPyoDHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > and you turned out ok, didnt you ;-)
> >
> > "Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
> > news:iq8gqvg0nenqkvjid90bq71fuiccd6uu8q@4ax.com...
> > > Mee-Ow.
> > > I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
> > > like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them to
> > > do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you come
> > > accross too.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Marlin
Tue Nov 04 16:50:26 CST 2003

Sounds like Kerpal's dog all over again.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:44:52 -0800, "NEW NAME, OLD GUY" <PLEASE!>
wrote:

>NO.
>
>Your MCPNP didn't let her died in peace.
>
>"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:%23ypZPPyoDHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> and you turned out ok, didnt you ;-)
>>
>> "Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
>> news:iq8gqvg0nenqkvjid90bq71fuiccd6uu8q@4ax.com...
>> > Mee-Ow.
>> > I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
>> > like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them to
>> > do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you come
>> > accross too.
>> >
>>
>>
>

Marlin
Tue Nov 04 16:53:18 CST 2003

I dont owe it only to you, its mostly down the repeated humiliations
until I got the drift.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:49:36 -0800, "Consultant"
<consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:

>outstanding! i feel so proud!
>
>"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
>news:qsagqv04abpamj7qgnfc0utr6piu71uh1a@4ax.com...
>> No, I turned into a lonely embittered little spod.
>> (only one who leads his own team, does his own research and now tries
>> not to ride on other peoples' coat tails)
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:36:25 -0800, "Consultant"
>> <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >and you turned out ok, didnt you ;-)
>> >
>> >"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
>> >news:iq8gqvg0nenqkvjid90bq71fuiccd6uu8q@4ax.com...
>> >> Mee-Ow.
>> >> I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
>> >> like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them to
>> >> do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you come
>> >> accross too.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

Consultant
Tue Nov 04 17:00:28 CST 2003

not me, the team, those of us who stand for a worthy cause

"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
news:bcbgqvoe0pa66co4l71hunrvnkk0f1oi6a@4ax.com...
> I dont owe it only to you, its mostly down the repeated humiliations
> until I got the drift.
>
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:49:36 -0800, "Consultant"
> <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >outstanding! i feel so proud!
> >
> >"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
> >news:qsagqv04abpamj7qgnfc0utr6piu71uh1a@4ax.com...
> >> No, I turned into a lonely embittered little spod.
> >> (only one who leads his own team, does his own research and now tries
> >> not to ride on other peoples' coat tails)
> >>
> >> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:36:25 -0800, "Consultant"
> >> <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >and you turned out ok, didnt you ;-)
> >> >
> >> >"Marlin Munrow" <marlin-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:iq8gqvg0nenqkvjid90bq71fuiccd6uu8q@4ax.com...
> >> >> Mee-Ow.
> >> >> I came to this group back in 97 with questions like that and people
> >> >> like Roger A, Laura, Consultant and Friz flamed me for asking them
to
> >> >> do my job for me. Forgive me for saying so but that is how you
come
> >> >> accross too.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>