MS - exam combinations...

I'm new to MS certifications, and it looks like my employer will pay
for some of the costs, so I'm researching...anyway, wanted to ask the
more experienced folks a couple of questions.

First, are there restrictions in combining exams for multiple
certifications. For example, say the track I wanted to follow for the
MCDBA included exams 70-228 (core), 70-229(core), 70-215(core), and
70-216(elect.). These four exams also fall under the MCSE track (228
and 229 are electives under MCSE, and 215 & 216 are core). So if I
pass the four exams for the MCDBA, does this mean I can also count all
four of these towards the MCSE (4 out of 7). Or does MS have
restrictions on what can be used for multiple certifications?

Secondly - what method would be best? Take classes? Or get the
books, and go on my own. I know different people learn differently,
etc. I have about 3 years of SQL Server experience (some admin &
design, but mostly development & SQL), and lots of experience with
general windows (not a lot of server or active directory experience,
mainly workstation).

Consultant
Wed Jun 23 14:58:50 CDT 2004

1. yes
2. depends on your learning aptitude. do you learn better via self study or
do you need to be handheld. if your company is floating the bill, take some
classes.

"Corey B." <corey_bunch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e9b712e.0406231153.3e8ec141@posting.google.com...
> I'm new to MS certifications, and it looks like my employer will pay
> for some of the costs, so I'm researching...anyway, wanted to ask the
> more experienced folks a couple of questions.
>
> First, are there restrictions in combining exams for multiple
> certifications. For example, say the track I wanted to follow for the
> MCDBA included exams 70-228 (core), 70-229(core), 70-215(core), and
> 70-216(elect.). These four exams also fall under the MCSE track (228
> and 229 are electives under MCSE, and 215 & 216 are core). So if I
> pass the four exams for the MCDBA, does this mean I can also count all
> four of these towards the MCSE (4 out of 7). Or does MS have
> restrictions on what can be used for multiple certifications?
>
> Secondly - what method would be best? Take classes? Or get the
> books, and go on my own. I know different people learn differently,
> etc. I have about 3 years of SQL Server experience (some admin &
> design, but mostly development & SQL), and lots of experience with
> general windows (not a lot of server or active directory experience,
> mainly workstation).

Neil
Wed Jun 23 15:05:35 CDT 2004

corey_bunch@yahoo.com (Corey B.) wrote in
news:9e9b712e.0406231153.3e8ec141@posting.google.com:

> I'm new to MS certifications, and it looks like my employer will pay
> for some of the costs, so I'm researching...anyway, wanted to ask the
> more experienced folks a couple of questions.

item 1. www.microsoft.com/learning is your friend

>
> First, are there restrictions in combining exams for multiple
> certifications.
<snipedydoda>

no, the exams can be used for multiple certs.

>
> Secondly - what method would be best? Take classes? Or get the
> books, and go on my own. I know different people learn differently,
> etc.
<snipatola>

yup, everybody learns differently. so you answered your own question. how
have you been learning new technologies thus far. some people are ok with
self study others aren't. regardless you should be practicing this stuff
at home on a test lab network. get vmware or vpc and copies of teh 180
eval versions of whatever you plan on studying and play a bit following a
book. then if you determine that you need a class take one.

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"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Consultant
Wed Jun 23 15:10:58 CDT 2004

by yes i mean you can combine them

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> 1. yes
> 2. depends on your learning aptitude. do you learn better via self study
or
> do you need to be handheld. if your company is floating the bill, take
some
> classes.
>
> "Corey B." <corey_bunch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9e9b712e.0406231153.3e8ec141@posting.google.com...
> > I'm new to MS certifications, and it looks like my employer will pay
> > for some of the costs, so I'm researching...anyway, wanted to ask the
> > more experienced folks a couple of questions.
> >
> > First, are there restrictions in combining exams for multiple
> > certifications. For example, say the track I wanted to follow for the
> > MCDBA included exams 70-228 (core), 70-229(core), 70-215(core), and
> > 70-216(elect.). These four exams also fall under the MCSE track (228
> > and 229 are electives under MCSE, and 215 & 216 are core). So if I
> > pass the four exams for the MCDBA, does this mean I can also count all
> > four of these towards the MCSE (4 out of 7). Or does MS have
> > restrictions on what can be used for multiple certifications?
> >
> > Secondly - what method would be best? Take classes? Or get the
> > books, and go on my own. I know different people learn differently,
> > etc. I have about 3 years of SQL Server experience (some admin &
> > design, but mostly development & SQL), and lots of experience with
> > general windows (not a lot of server or active directory experience,
> > mainly workstation).
>
>

Brat®
Wed Jun 23 20:26:32 CDT 2004

*stands and applauds* ... look people!!! someone who actually did
RESEARCH... yes... research... before asking a very educated question on
here...

oh and just so I can give an honest reply... I agree with Consultant and
Neil... lol ... I'd say why improve on perfection but I can't since neither
Kat nor I made the first post :P... and Laura beats us all

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Proud member since April 8, 2002
"Corey B." <corey_bunch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e9b712e.0406231153.3e8ec141@posting.google.com...
> I'm new to MS certifications, and it looks like my employer will pay
> for some of the costs, so I'm researching...anyway, wanted to ask the
> more experienced folks a couple of questions.
>
> First, are there restrictions in combining exams for multiple
> certifications. For example, say the track I wanted to follow for the
> MCDBA included exams 70-228 (core), 70-229(core), 70-215(core), and
> 70-216(elect.). These four exams also fall under the MCSE track (228
> and 229 are electives under MCSE, and 215 & 216 are core). So if I
> pass the four exams for the MCDBA, does this mean I can also count all
> four of these towards the MCSE (4 out of 7). Or does MS have
> restrictions on what can be used for multiple certifications?
>
> Secondly - what method would be best? Take classes? Or get the
> books, and go on my own. I know different people learn differently,
> etc. I have about 3 years of SQL Server experience (some admin &
> design, but mostly development & SQL), and lots of experience with
> general windows (not a lot of server or active directory experience,
> mainly workstation).

Neil
Wed Jun 23 20:39:58 CDT 2004

"Brat®" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com> wrote in news:c5qCc.63166
$Np3.2925420@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

> . and Laura beats us all

sooooooooooo kinky.....

--
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"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Brat®
Wed Jun 23 21:10:07 CDT 2004

do you ever sleep???

hey do I have you on msn???

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Proud member since April 8, 2002
"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
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> "Brat®" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com> wrote in news:c5qCc.63166
> $Np3.2925420@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:
>
> > . and Laura beats us all
>
> sooooooooooo kinky.....
>
> --
> Neil MCNGP #30
> "you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Neil
Wed Jun 23 21:20:12 CDT 2004

"Brat®" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com> wrote in news:3KqCc.63204
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>
> hey do I have you on msn???
>
>

sometimes and my addy is in l33t

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Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Spyke
Thu Jun 24 09:37:32 CDT 2004

Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
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> "Brat®" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com> wrote in news:c5qCc.63166
> $Np3.2925420@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:
>
>> . and Laura beats us all
>
> sooooooooooo kinky.....
>

When is the pay-per-view event?

--

Cheers,
Spyke

Neil
Thu Jun 24 09:53:27 CDT 2004

Spyke <spyke@mailinator.com> wrote in
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>
> When is the pay-per-view event?

as soon as we can get the video feed from the Borg mother ship..

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"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

Spyke
Thu Jun 24 10:05:04 CDT 2004

Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
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> Spyke <spyke@mailinator.com> wrote in
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>
>>
>> When is the pay-per-view event?
>
> as soon as we can get the video feed from the Borg mother ship..
>

They can land in my backyard if that will help and speed things up.

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Cheers,
Spyke

Juliw
Fri Jun 25 15:52:01 CDT 2004

I have the plug in ready....

"Spyke" wrote:

> Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
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>
> > Spyke <spyke@mailinator.com> wrote in
> > news:Xns95126C16F2DF7spykemailinator.com@207.46.248.16:
> >
> >>
> >> When is the pay-per-view event?
> >
> > as soon as we can get the video feed from the Borg mother ship..
> >
>
> They can land in my backyard if that will help and speed things up.
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> Spyke
>

Julie
Fri Jun 25 15:54:02 CDT 2004

I have the plug in ready....

"Spyke" wrote:

> Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
> news:Xns95126EC9CDC9Aneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16:
>
> > Spyke <spyke@mailinator.com> wrote in
> > news:Xns95126C16F2DF7spykemailinator.com@207.46.248.16:
> >
> >>
> >> When is the pay-per-view event?
> >
> > as soon as we can get the video feed from the Borg mother ship..
> >
>
> They can land in my backyard if that will help and speed things up.
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> Spyke
>