Once add a domain user to a local group in a Windows 2000, XP or
2003 member server, what can the user do? Access local resource
through the network? Login locally? Or both?

Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Briscobar

Briscobar
Thu Jun 22 07:13:51 CDT 2006

Dandelion <dandelion@greenfield.com> rambled:
>
> Once add a domain user to a local group in a Windows 2000, XP or
> 2003 member server, what can the user do? Access local resource
> through the network? Login locally? Or both?

Whatever you give him permissions to do.

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by FrankNguyen

FrankNguyen
Thu Jun 22 07:51:01 CDT 2006

All of the above would hold true IF and only IF the local security setting or
at domain level allowed that particular group or user to log on locally.

"Briscobar" wrote:

> Dandelion <dandelion@greenfield.com> rambled:
> >
> > Once add a domain user to a local group in a Windows 2000, XP or
> > 2003 member server, what can the user do? Access local resource
> > through the network? Login locally? Or both?
>
> Whatever you give him permissions to do.
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
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>
>
>

Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by kpg

kpg
Thu Jun 22 09:28:23 CDT 2006

As Frank Nguyen once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> All of the above would hold true IF and only IF the
> local security setting or at domain level allowed that particular
> group or user to log on locally.

I always liked the phrase "If and only If".

kp "iff" g

Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by FrisbeeŽ

Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 10:09:38 CDT 2006

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EA6060E65DBipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> As Frank Nguyen once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>> All of the above would hold true IF and only IF the
>> local security setting or at domain level allowed that particular
>> group or user to log on locally.
>
> I always liked the phrase "If and only If".
>
> kp "iff" g

IIF(intDenominator <> 0, intNumerator / intDenominator, 0)

Divide by zero error.

INFINITY BAYBEE!



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Abhishek

Abhishek
Thu Jun 22 10:39:01 CDT 2006


yeah can use local computer
"Briscobar" wrote:

> Dandelion <dandelion@greenfield.com> rambled:
> >
> > Once add a domain user to a local group in a Windows 2000, XP or
> > 2003 member server, what can the user do? Access local resource
> > through the network? Login locally? Or both?
>
> Whatever you give him permissions to do.
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
> nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.
>
>
>

Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by JaR

JaR
Thu Jun 22 10:50:28 CDT 2006

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:29:40 -0400, Dandelion cast into the ether:

> Once add a domain user to a local group in a Windows 2000, XP or
> 2003 member server, what can the user do? Access local resource
> through the network? Login locally? Or both?

Read the book first, then do the questions. You'll find out it works
better that way.

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by kpg

kpg
Thu Jun 22 11:01:37 CDT 2006

As Frisbee® once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> IIF(intDenominator <> 0, intNumerator / intDenominator, 0)
>
> Divide by zero error.
>
> INFINITY BAYBEE!

lol.

When I 1st got into programming I was confused by iff, because in
math iff means If and Only If, but in programming it means something
different.

Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by kpg

kpg
Thu Jun 22 11:12:29 CDT 2006

OK. See, here's the problem.

iff and iif are different. wow.

I'd say I was dislexic except this isn't even
the same letters. Well, mostly the same.

maybe that's why I neverver used iif, becasue every
time I type in iff I get a complie error.

stupid computer.

kp "what's that sucking sound?" g

Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by FrisbeeŽ

Frisbee®
Thu Jun 22 11:26:04 CDT 2006

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EA72072E52Eipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> OK. See, here's the problem.
>
> iff and iif are different. wow.
>
> I'd say I was dislexic except this isn't even
> the same letters. Well, mostly the same.
>
> maybe that's why I neverver used iif, becasue every
> time I type in iff I get a complie error.
>
> stupid computer.
>
> kp "what's that sucking sound?" g

iif rawks if you use it right. You just have to keep in mind that both
results will be evaluated no matter what. I kind of wish they had a
short-circuit version of iif just for that reason.

I just today fixed a logic bug involving an iif line I had written, where I
was working with one of two files that were -almost- identical, and forgot
the part where iif evaluates both results, and consequently got a 380 error
(invalid property) and I'm thinking "damb it! the code SAYS if it's this
file use this field, otherwise the other! D'oh!"



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by kpg

kpg
Thu Jun 22 11:38:25 CDT 2006

As Frisbee® once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> iif rawks if you use it right.

I like the IMP compare operator, but I had programmers
misuse it so often that now we replace "If a IMP b then..."
with "If a OR NOT b then...". What a shame.

In .NET there is an ORELSE and a ANDTHEN which only evaluates
the second argument if needed. Very nice.





Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Kurt

Kurt
Sat Jun 24 23:30:07 CDT 2006

Adding a domain user to a local group gives the domain account the the same
PERMISSIONS that a local user who was also a member of that group has.
Permissions control access to resources, shares, and some groups are granted
specific rights byb default. It does NOT allow the domain user to log on
locally to the workstation. You would need to create a local account for
that. On the other hand, if the local group happens to be "administrators"
(as it usually is), they would have the rights and permissions to create a
local account for themselves, then they could log on locally.

...kurt

"Dandelion" <dandelion@greenfield.com> wrote in message
news:449a2a77$0$6063$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Once add a domain user to a local group in a Windows 2000, XP or
> 2003 member server, what can the user do? Access local resource
> through the network? Login locally? Or both?
>



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Cerebrus

Cerebrus
Sun Jun 25 10:21:43 CDT 2006


kpg wrote:

> In .NET there is an ORELSE and a ANDTHEN which only evaluates
> the second argument if needed. Very nice.

I think you meant "ANDALSO". As far as I know, "ANDTHEN" is not an
operator in VB.NET.


Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by kpg

kpg
Mon Jun 26 11:34:37 CDT 2006

As Cerebrus once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\199782.htm (6/26/2006
> 11:25:33 AM) #
>
> kpg wrote:
>
>> In .NET there is an ORELSE and a ANDTHEN which only evaluates
>> the second argument if needed. Very nice.
>
> I think you meant "ANDALSO". As far as I know, "ANDTHEN" is not an
> operator in VB.NET.

Yeah, well, that's why we have compilers, to catch all my mistakes.

Which brings up a cert related point. On language tests they
inevitably ask syntax questions. Well, I don't need to memorize
syntax - at least not to the point where I need to look at a piece
of code and tell if its syntactically correct, that's the compilers
job. Except for the rare typeo, I type syntactically correct code,
but if someone brings me some code they are having trouble with,
I ask - does it compile? If so we proceed from there.

Logic, not syntax - that's what should be tested.


Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Cerebrus

Cerebrus
Mon Jun 26 14:18:22 CDT 2006


Thus spake kpg :

> Logic, not syntax - that's what should be tested.

I completely agree here. But in my experience of MS Certifications,
there are some questions that test your knowledge of syntax, but above
all, the questions seem to be concerned about two things : Security and
Performance.

Since there are any no. of ways to achieve a particular end, the
questions usually present a scenario which tells you what is the
highest priority, Security or Performance. Then you can logically
select the correct choice accordingly. This is why the exams require
in-depth knowledge of the workings of the framework, since any
programmer can probably do the needful, but doing it in the most
efficient way, takes knowledge and experience.

Of course, I'm only talking of the MCSD track exams here, but I think
those factors would be pretty highly rated even on the Networking
tracks.

I figure, that's because it mirrors Microsoft's own policy after the
lessons they've learned.

Just my 2p.


Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by kpg

kpg
Mon Jun 26 14:30:45 CDT 2006

As Cerebrus once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

> Security and Performance.

Valid points.

So what you're saying is, I can make a lot of money
if I write a Security and Performance checker for .NET?

Remember lint for C? Of course you don't. Nobodys that
old.







Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by MitchS

MitchS
Mon Jun 26 15:23:56 CDT 2006

"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EE93A4FF6ACipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...


> Remember lint for C? Of course you don't. Nobodys that
> old.

*whispers*
It's older than Neil?
--
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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by kpg

kpg
Mon Jun 26 15:31:38 CDT 2006

As MitchS once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse

>> Remember lint for C? Of course you don't. Nobodys that
>> old.
>
> *whispers*
> It's older than Neil?

Whoa!, Come on, nothings older than Neil.

kp "keeps fingers crossed" g

Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by LnkWizard2

LnkWizard2
Mon Jun 26 16:02:40 CDT 2006


"kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EE9DF763C86ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> As MitchS once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>
>>> Remember lint for C? Of course you don't. Nobodys that
>>> old.
>>
>> *whispers*
>> It's older than Neil?
>
> Whoa!, Come on, nothings older than Neil.
>

I am



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Jtyc

Jtyc
Mon Jun 26 16:19:38 CDT 2006

>> Whoa!, Come on, nothings older than Neil.

> I am


What was the universe like before the big bang?



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by BD>

BD>
Mon Jun 26 16:46:02 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Jtyc spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
>
> What was the universe like before the big bang?
>
John Holmes was happier?!

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Jtyc

Jtyc
Mon Jun 26 17:24:49 CDT 2006

> John Holmes was happier?!

Who's John Holmes?



ya old fart



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Jtyc

Jtyc
Mon Jun 26 17:46:58 CDT 2006

> it's not that I'm old, I just had lots of time to watch the pr0n that the
> parents had hidden under the bed.

My dad just had Playboy's. Of course, he had all of them including the
one's with the Vargas girls in them.

and my mother threw them all away...

Mint condition mind you.

Threw them all away...


threw them.... all away...

THREW THEM... ALL... AWAY...



*weeps uncontrollably*




Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by BD>

BD>
Mon Jun 26 17:36:39 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Jtyc spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
>> John Holmes was happier?!
>
> Who's John Holmes?
>
Christy Canyon's beau!

>
> ya old fart
>
it's not that I'm old, I just had lots of time to watch the pr0n that the
parents had hidden under the bed.
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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by JaR

JaR
Mon Jun 26 18:18:58 CDT 2006

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:46:58 -0700, Jtyc cast into the ether:

> THREW THEM... ALL... AWAY...
>
>
>
> *weeps uncontrollably*

I feel your pain.



All those articles unread.

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by LRM

LRM
Mon Jun 26 18:19:51 CDT 2006

"LnkWizard2" <lnk.wizard.nodots.2@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23w4iePWmGHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "kpg" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns97EE9DF763C86ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
>> As MitchS once said in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
>>
>>>> Remember lint for C? Of course you don't. Nobodys that
>>>> old.
>>>
>>> *whispers*
>>> It's older than Neil?
>>
>> Whoa!, Come on, nothings older than Neil.
>>
>
> I am
Me 2



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by BD>

BD>
Mon Jun 26 18:29:23 CDT 2006

<< While I was at work, Jtyc spurted out:
<<------------------------------------------>>
>> it's not that I'm old, I just had lots of time to watch the pr0n
>> that the parents had hidden under the bed.
>
> My dad just had Playboy's. Of course, he had all of them including
> the one's with the Vargas girls in them.
>
I got one for ya...My dad had the Penthouse had the first Scratch & Sniff
(nothin' special, just smelled like hotel soap)
He had it in the garage (hiding it from my mom) and some of my friends destroyed
it.

> and my mother threw them all away...
>
My (EX)wife did that with my pr0n...I coulda killed her....but I just bought
more.

> Mint condition mind you.
>
Really hurts thinkin about it, huh?

> Threw them all away...
>
>
> threw them.... all away...
>
> THREW THEM... ALL... AWAY...
>
>
>
> *weeps uncontrollably*
>
Don't weep too much, gotta remember all the hair that was included in those.

--
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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Neil

Neil
Mon Jun 26 21:34:25 CDT 2006

did you hear "MitchS" <firstinitlastname@nospam.gmail.com> say in news:
#cPVf5VmGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> It's older than Neil?

i hate you

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Neil

Neil
Mon Jun 26 21:36:55 CDT 2006

did you hear "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> say in news:e8jtIcXmGHA.3880
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> Me 2
>

but yer way cuter than Link...WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY cuter

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by TechGeekPro

TechGeekPro
Mon Jun 26 22:35:28 CDT 2006

On Jun 26, 2006 at 6:46pm "Jtyc" blathered:

>> it's not that I'm old, I just had lots of time to watch the pr0n that the
>> parents had hidden under the bed.
>
> My dad just had Playboy's. Of course, he had all of them including the
> one's with the Vargas girls in them.
>
> and my mother threw them all away...
>
> Mint condition mind you.
>
> Threw them all away...
>
>
> threw them.... all away...
>
> THREW THEM... ALL... AWAY...
>
>
>
> *weeps uncontrollably*

I'm sooooo depressed. :(

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by TechGeekPro

TechGeekPro
Mon Jun 26 22:35:48 CDT 2006

On Jun 26, 2006 at 7:18pm "JaR" blathered:

> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:46:58 -0700, Jtyc cast into the ether:
>
>> THREW THEM... ALL... AWAY...
>>
>>
>>
>> *weeps uncontrollably*
>
> I feel your pain.
>
>
>
> All those articles unread.

PotD!

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Neil

Neil
Tue Jun 27 07:01:18 CDT 2006

did you hear JaR <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in
news:pan.2006.06.26.23.18.58.386880@lakabux.com:

> All those articles unread.

just like arriving at mpc.exam.mcse after the 1500 post fiasco.

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by LnkWizard2

LnkWizard2
Tue Jun 27 07:31:05 CDT 2006

"Jtyc" <yo@respondtothegroup.com> wrote in message
news:e8afdJXmGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> it's not that I'm old, I just had lots of time to watch the pr0n that the
>> parents had hidden under the bed.
>
> My dad just had Playboy's. Of course, he had all of them including the
> one's with the Vargas girls in them.
>

I used to work part-time in a bookstore. Got a copy
of the 40th anniversary book Hef put out. I have
managed to hang on to that darn thing through two
marriages.



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by LnkWizard2

LnkWizard2
Tue Jun 27 07:33:33 CDT 2006


"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EEE611DCD1Aneilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> say in news:e8jtIcXmGHA.3880
> @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> Me 2
>>
>
> but yer way cuter than Link...WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY cuter
>
> --
>
>

Very much definitely and positively so, aren't you glad?



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Neil

Neil
Tue Jun 27 11:08:58 CDT 2006

did you hear "LnkWizard2" <lnk.wizard.nodots.2@nospam.hotmail.com> say in
news:#whfoXemGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> aren't you glad?
>

you have no idea how much

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Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by LnkWizard2

LnkWizard2
Tue Jun 27 11:31:10 CDT 2006


"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97EF7B97CF1A4neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear "LnkWizard2" <lnk.wizard.nodots.2@nospam.hotmail.com> say in
> news:#whfoXemGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>
>> aren't you glad?
>>
>
> you have no idea how much
>

Yeah, I do, enough that you won't go into
hyper posting mode for several months.



Re: Can domain user log on a local computer? by Neil

Neil
Tue Jun 27 12:03:28 CDT 2006

did you hear "LnkWizard2" <lnk.wizard.nodots.2@nospam.hotmail.com> say in
news:u4$QbcgmGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> Yeah, I do, enough that you won't go into
> hyper posting mode for several months.

no, you have that e-mail address I sent...

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