churning at startup....

Hi there,

With Windows XP Pro, it starts up and the hard drive churns and the hard
drive light is on constantly for between 5 to 10 minutes until it finally
settles down....

I ran perfmon.msc and the Average Disk Quota is going through the roof....
as is the memory. Yet it has 20 Gb free space on a 30 G HDD. I ghosted over
to another hard drive and the same problem......

I've cleaned up.... uninstalled Norton 2004 and reinstalled it and the same
thing....

Time for a clean re-install?

Gordon

Laura
Wed Sep 01 22:48:23 CDT 2004

circa Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:26:53 -0700, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Gordon J. Rattray
(gordscorp@shaw.ca) said,
> Hi there,
>
> With Windows XP Pro, it starts up and the hard drive churns and the hard
> drive light is on constantly for between 5 to 10 minutes until it finally
> settles down....
>
> I ran perfmon.msc and the Average Disk Quota is going through the roof....
> as is the memory. Yet it has 20 Gb free space on a 30 G HDD. I ghosted over
> to another hard drive and the same problem......
>
> I've cleaned up.... uninstalled Norton 2004 and reinstalled it and the same
> thing....
>
> Time for a clean re-install?
>
> Gordon
>
>
>
Hit sysinternals.com and download process viewer and take a look at
what's eating up the machine.

Laura
--
Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes.
-Oscar Wilde

Kelly
Thu Sep 02 03:21:52 CDT 2004

Hi Gordon,

Run the Task Manager, go to View/Select Columns, and turn on the following
columns: "I/O Read Bytes" and "I/O Write Bytes." This will give you details
as to which process is accessing the disk.

Although many processes will be accessing the disk, look for one with a high
total or a fast rate of increase, especially when you hear the drive being
accessed.

How to Locate and Correct Disk Space Problems on NTFS Volumes in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315688

Windows XP Does Not Recognize All Available Disk Space
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-gb;316505&ln=en-gb

Hard Disk Performance Is Slower Than You Expect
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q308219

--
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Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm



"Gordon J. Rattray" <gordscorp@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:uEDNERJkEHA.2664@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi there,
>
> With Windows XP Pro, it starts up and the hard drive churns and the hard
> drive light is on constantly for between 5 to 10 minutes until it finally
> settles down....
>
> I ran perfmon.msc and the Average Disk Quota is going through the roof....
> as is the memory. Yet it has 20 Gb free space on a 30 G HDD. I ghosted
> over to another hard drive and the same problem......
>
> I've cleaned up.... uninstalled Norton 2004 and reinstalled it and the
> same thing....
>
> Time for a clean re-install?
>
> Gordon
>

Laura
Thu Sep 02 09:51:35 CDT 2004

In article <MPG.1ba0621169e7a3f098aaed@msnews.microsoft.com>,
geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com says...
> > I ran perfmon.msc and the Average Disk Quota is going through the roof....
> > as is the memory. Yet it has 20 Gb free space on a 30 G HDD. I ghosted over
> > to another hard drive and the same problem......
> >
> > I've cleaned up.... uninstalled Norton 2004 and reinstalled it and the same
> > thing....
> >
> > Time for a clean re-install?
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> >
> >
> Hit sysinternals.com and download process viewer and take a look at
> what's eating up the machine.
>
By the way, the advantage of using this rather than Task Manager or Perfmon is
that it presents all of the linked operations that make up the process in
question in real time, as well as handles that they spawn, which makes it much
easier to watch what's going on on your machine. It's definitely worth taking a
look.

Thanks,

Laura

S
Thu Sep 02 10:12:32 CDT 2004

Chkdsk and defrag your system.Scan your system with latest virus
definitioned antivius/adaware/spybot,search and destroy.
Also see:-http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310560

regards,
ssg MS-MVP
pronetworks.org

Gordon J. Rattray wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> With Windows XP Pro, it starts up and the hard drive churns and the hard
> drive light is on constantly for between 5 to 10 minutes until it finally
> settles down....
>
> I ran perfmon.msc and the Average Disk Quota is going through the roof....
> as is the memory. Yet it has 20 Gb free space on a 30 G HDD. I ghosted over
> to another hard drive and the same problem......
>
> I've cleaned up.... uninstalled Norton 2004 and reinstalled it and the same
> thing....
>
> Time for a clean re-install?
>
> Gordon
>
>

billLASTINIT
Thu Sep 02 11:36:45 CDT 2004

Laura A. Robinson wrote:
> By the way, the advantage of using this rather than Task Manager or
> Perfmon is that it presents all of the linked operations that make up
> the process in question in real time, as well as handles that they
> spawn, which makes it much easier to watch what's going on on your
> machine. It's definitely worth taking a look.

I love it when you talk dirty.

--
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=meanoldman=
Thu Sep 02 11:42:24 CDT 2004

Mmmmmm Me too.

How's it going Laura?



"Frisbee®" <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
news:%23SO5KsQkEHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Laura A. Robinson wrote:
>> By the way, the advantage of using this rather than Task Manager or
>> Perfmon is that it presents all of the linked operations that make up
>> the process in question in real time, as well as handles that they
>> spawn, which makes it much easier to watch what's going on on your
>> machine. It's definitely worth taking a look.
>
> I love it when you talk dirty.
>
> --
> Fris "She said spawn" bee®, MCNGP #13
>
> The MCNGP Team - We're here to help!
> http://www.mcngp.com
>
> Certaholics
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
>

Laura
Thu Sep 02 19:31:06 CDT 2004

circa Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:36:45 -0400, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?iso-8859-15?Q?Frisbee=AE?=
(billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com) said,
> > By the way, the advantage of using this rather than Task Manager or
> > Perfmon is that it presents all of the linked operations that make up
> > the process in question in real time, as well as handles that they
> > spawn, which makes it much easier to watch what's going on on your
> > machine. It's definitely worth taking a look.
>
> I love it when you talk dirty.
>
Oh, he11, I'm just getting started.
--
Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes.
-Oscar Wilde

Laura
Thu Sep 02 19:32:57 CDT 2004

circa Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:42:24 -0400, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =meanoldman= (me@here.com) said,
> Mmmmmm Me too.

Hey, you're still surviving on the "raisins" behind the couch?

>
> How's it going Laura?

Depends what day of the week you ask me. I'm in NYC now, working for,
erm, a large company with a recognizable name. :-)

Corporate America can be pretty stupid.

But NY is a bazillion times better than Pennsyltucky.

Laura
>

--
Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes.
-Oscar Wilde

billLASTINIT
Fri Sep 03 06:38:31 CDT 2004

Laura A. Robinson wrote:

> But NY is a bazillion times better than Pennsyltucky.

Hey... I'm from Pennsyltucky.

I'll bet you'd like my little hometown: Bloomsburg.

Ah, ring bologna, birch beer, teaberry ice cream, Philly style hoagies and
cheese steaks.

--
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Neil
Fri Sep 03 08:15:02 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Frisbee® <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> spewed
in news:OptULqakEHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl:

> Fris "Now all I got is grits" bee©, MCNGP #13

I do not believe that grits are actually food...

--
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the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Paul
Fri Sep 03 11:28:49 CDT 2004

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 23:48:23 -0400, Laura A. Robinson
<geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com> wrote:


>> With Windows XP Pro, it starts up and the hard drive churns and the hard
>> drive light is on constantly for between 5 to 10 minutes until it finally
>> settles down....
>>
>> I ran perfmon.msc and the Average Disk Quota is going through the roof....
>> as is the memory. Yet it has 20 Gb free space on a 30 G HDD. I ghosted over
>> to another hard drive and the same problem......
>>
>> I've cleaned up.... uninstalled Norton 2004 and reinstalled it and the same
>> thing....
>>
>> Time for a clean re-install?
>>
>> Gordon
>>
>>
>>
>Hit sysinternals.com and download process viewer and take a look at
>what's eating up the machine.
>
>Laura

You might also want to take a look at Autoruns (also from
Sysinternals) to find out exactly which processes are spinning up when
you boot your machine :

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/autoruns.shtml


Regards,

Paul Lynch
MCSE

Laura
Fri Sep 03 15:58:21 CDT 2004

In article <OptULqakEHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, billLASTINIT@dasi-
software.com says...
> Laura A. Robinson wrote:
>
> > But NY is a bazillion times better than Pennsyltucky.
>
> Hey... I'm from Pennsyltucky.

Sorry, man, that's a bummer.

>
> I'll bet you'd like my little hometown: Bloomsburg.
>
Gawd, it's like my two worst nightmares rolled together...

> Ah, ring bologna, birch beer, teaberry ice cream, Philly style hoagies and
> cheese steaks.

At least you didn't wax reminiscent about scrapple.

Laura
>
>

billLASTINIT
Wed Sep 08 11:31:16 CDT 2004

Laura A. Robinson wrote:
> In article <OptULqakEHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, billLASTINIT@dasi-
> software.com says...
>> Laura A. Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> But NY is a bazillion times better than Pennsyltucky.
>>
>> Hey... I'm from Pennsyltucky.
>
> Sorry, man, that's a bummer.
>
>>
>> I'll bet you'd like my little hometown: Bloomsburg.
>>
> Gawd, it's like my two worst nightmares rolled together...
>
>> Ah, ring bologna, birch beer, teaberry ice cream, Philly style
>> hoagies and cheese steaks.
>
> At least you didn't wax reminiscent about scrapple.

I had one horrible experience that involved scrapple. To this day, I
literally shudder when even the word is mentioned.

--
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kpg
Wed Sep 08 12:05:43 CDT 2004

"Frisbee®" <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
> I had one horrible experience that involved scrapple. To this day, I
> literally shudder when even the word is mentioned.


That's what Yankees say about grits.

--
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Certificates? We don't need no steenking Certificates!

Neil
Wed Sep 08 12:11:26 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> spewed in news:
#XHqBYclEHA.2224@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:

> "Frisbee®" <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
> > I had one horrible experience that involved scrapple. To this day, I
>> literally shudder when even the word is mentioned.
>
>
> That's what Yankees say about grits.
>

Message-ID: <Xns95595E1A57C83neilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16>

stop calling me a Yankee...unless you are George Stienbrenner and what to
offer me a contract. anything over $4milUSN and you can feel free to call
me a Yankee.

--
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the "curious" hair on the soap of society

kpg
Wed Sep 08 14:03:48 CDT 2004

"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns955E862D9C45Eneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\145107.htm (9/8/2004 1:59:57 PM)
#
> babbling on and on again "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> spewed in news:
> #XHqBYclEHA.2224@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:
>
> > "Frisbee®" <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
> > > I had one horrible experience that involved scrapple. To this day, I
> >> literally shudder when even the word is mentioned.
> >
> >
> > That's what Yankees say about grits.
> >
>
> stop calling me a Yankee...unless you are George Stienbrenner and what to
> offer me a contract. anything over $4milUSN and you can feel free to call
> me a Yankee.
>

Neil, I would never call you a Yankee.

http://www.silverladder.com/literature/humor/canadians/ihate1.htm

--
kpg A+ MCP MCNGP 0x22
Certificates? We don't need no steenking Certificates!

Ken
Wed Sep 08 14:11:27 CDT 2004

"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns955E862D9C45Eneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> >
> > That's what Yankees say about grits.
> >
>
> Message-ID: <Xns95595E1A57C83neilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16>
>
> stop calling me a Yankee...unless you are George Stienbrenner and what to
> offer me a contract. anything over $4milUSN and you can feel free to call
> me a Yankee.
>

Alright ladies, let's stop with the foul language. Henceforth, the New York
baseball club will be known as TEE (The Evil Empire) or the MFY, which I'll
let you figure out on your own.

<see alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox for help>

--

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Neil
Wed Sep 08 16:08:23 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> spewed in
news:OmG4AadlEHA.2820@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

> http://www.silverladder.com/literature/humor/canadians/ihate1.htm

I want you to know that I have never eaten racoon
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
the other stuff is bang on though...

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society

JaR
Wed Sep 08 17:20:11 CDT 2004

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Neil climbed on a soapbox & opined:

> babbling on and on again "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> spewed in
> news:OmG4AadlEHA.2820@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:
>
>> http://www.silverladder.com/literature/humor/canadians/ihate1.htm
>
> I want you to know that I have never eaten racoon
> .

If you say so.

What about skunk?

Vote for Me!

JaR

Rowdy
Wed Sep 08 18:19:33 CDT 2004

JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> wrote in
news:Xns955E9C03087C8plentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:

> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Neil climbed on a soapbox & opined:
>
>> babbling on and on again "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> spewed in
>> news:OmG4AadlEHA.2820@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> http://www.silverladder.com/literature/humor/canadians/ihate1.htm
>>
>> I want you to know that I have never eaten racoon
>> .
>
> If you say so.
>
> What about skunk?
>
> Vote for Me!
>
> JaR
>

skunk ain't what it's cracked up to be. but racoon burgers on the barbie
are to die for.

--
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http://rowdy_yates2.tripod.com/
"If it doesn't sleep, doesn't eat, doesn't take piss breaks and plays
poker 24 hours a day - it's a bot!"

JaR
Wed Sep 08 19:01:27 CDT 2004

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Rowdy Yates climbed on a soapbox &
opined:
>>
>
> skunk ain't what it's cracked up to be. but racoon burgers on the barbie
> are to die for.
>

You might find some of these handy;

http://www.globe-guardian.com/archives/twisted/tl0004.htm

Especially the skunk skillet stew. Yum!

Vote:
JaR
for President

Neil
Wed Sep 08 19:17:43 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> spewed in
news:Xns955EAD2DD6BBEplentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:

> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Rowdy Yates climbed on a soapbox &
> opined:
>>>
>>
>> skunk ain't what it's cracked up to be. but racoon burgers on the
>> barbie are to die for.
>>
>
> You might find some of these handy;
>
> http://www.globe-guardian.com/archives/twisted/tl0004.htm
>
> Especially the skunk skillet stew. Yum!
>
> Vote:
> JaR
> for President
>

possibly, but with racoon you get a meal and a nice hat.
.
.
.
<fx=musically>
"daveeeeeey, davey crocket. man of the wild frontier..."
</fx>
--
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the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Neil
Wed Sep 08 19:18:07 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again JaR <plente@spamsuxsofthome.net> spewed in
news:Xns955E9C03087C8plentespamsuxsofthom@207.46.248.16:

> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Neil climbed on a soapbox & opined:
>
>> babbling on and on again "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> spewed in
>> news:OmG4AadlEHA.2820@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> http://www.silverladder.com/literature/humor/canadians/ihate1.htm
>>
>> I want you to know that I have never eaten racoon
>> .
>
> If you say so.
>
> What about skunk?
>
> Vote for Me!
>
> JaR

no it left a bad taste in my nose...

--
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the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Neil
Wed Sep 08 19:18:28 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Rowdy Yates
<rowdy_yates_mcngp@removethisyahoo.com> spewed in
news:Xns955EC42954AD9rowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16:

> but racoon burgers on the barbie
> are to die for.
>

I'll take your word for it...

--
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the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Doom
Thu Sep 09 09:19:38 CDT 2004

> possibly, but with racoon you get a meal and a nice hat.

LOL

Rowdy
Fri Sep 10 06:04:59 CDT 2004

Laura A. Robinson <geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1baaf9ed2a9bb24798ac11@msnews.microsoft.com:

> circa Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:08:23 -0700, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Neil (neilmcse@nospamforyou.com)
> said,
>>
>> I want you to know that I have never eaten racoon
>>
> RaCCoon!

really? 2 C's! get out!

--
Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
http://rowdy_yates2.tripod.com/
"If it doesn't sleep, doesn't eat, doesn't take piss breaks and plays poker
24 hours a day - it's a bot!"

Neil
Fri Sep 10 07:01:28 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Laura A. Robinson
<geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com> spewed in news:MPG.1baaf9ed2a9bb24798ac11
@msnews.microsoft.com:

> circa Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:08:23 -0700, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Neil (neilmcse@nospamforyou.com)
> said,
>>
>> I want you to know that I have never eaten racoon
>>
> RaCCoon!

spolling ws naver r stonge suite...

--
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the "curious" hair on the soap of society

Rowdy
Fri Sep 10 10:59:49 CDT 2004

Laura A. Robinson <geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1bab7e847c93cb8798ac29@msnews.microsoft.com:

> circa Fri, 10 Sep 2004 04:04:59 -0700, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Rowdy Yates
> (rowdy_yates_mcngp@removethisyahoo.com) said,
>> Laura A. Robinson <geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:MPG.1baaf9ed2a9bb24798ac11@msnews.microsoft.com:
>>
>> > circa Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:08:23 -0700, in
>> > microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Neil (neilmcse@nospamforyou.com)
>> > said,
>> >>
>> >> I want you to know that I have never eaten racoon
>> >>
>> > RaCCoon!
>>
>> really? 2 C's! get out!
>>
>>
> Fur real!

real fur? get out!

--
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http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp

Neil
Fri Sep 10 14:58:11 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again Laura A. Robinson <geekwench@snippit.hotmail.com>
spewed in news:MPG.1bab7e949351a0b998ac2a@msnews.microsoft.com:

> Sew Eye C.

IFYPFY

--
Neil MCNGP #30
the "curious" hair on the soap of society