Re: Yet another contradiction by zenner
zenner
Sun Apr 17 10:33:29 CDT 2005
My feelings, as reference material, for the ExamCram series, especially the
revived "ExamCram2" series is pretty low. For an IT professional, I
characterize that series as fit, only, for dilettantes and managers ;( ? The
level of knowledge in them is mainly cursory...fit only to impress friends
at cocktail parties, the local watering hole or possibly, enough to get you
through an initial job interview.
To get any depth on the subject...you need to read the MSpress offerings.
Mark M. signature series does offer a good fairly detailed line of manuals
and I have nothing but praise for the O'Reilly line of books...even though
they usually are better for quick reference...after you already know the
subject...rather than covering the subject enough to use as a reference
before taking an exam.
TechNet has grown into an essential tool for any IT professional and
obviously, time spent learn how and when to use Knowledge base is always
well spent. Studying to pass the test shouldn't be your primary goal...you
should study to learn the subject to a depth that you can feel comfortable
explaining, extemporaneously, to another professional...that would be a good
test of your knowledge. Passing the exam is just gravy on the meat.
"zenner" <Zenner@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:aOQ7e.2640$t85.1896@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> Seeing your point for what it is, I guess there is no hope for a solution
> that will satisfy your problem.
>
> We all know there are no in-house manuals provided with Ms products any
> more...although I do have copies from win95 and early versions of NT...I
> will accept they were not in general circulation.
>
> The vacuum of MS provide hard copy manuals, as I mentioned, was filled by
> third-parties and Online help manuals and/or Readme files, hotfixes,
> etc...included on the disc and later on CD/DVD. There is some additional
> effort involved in finding them, but as you complained, that too is
> Microsofts fault.
>
> I was wrong to offer a solution; such as checking the published and/or
> revised date of 3rd-party manuals, study guides, etc. My excuse was a
> mistaken assumption that you were seeking a solution, had possibly
> overlooked the obvious basics of purchasing technical literature. Some
> times people are distracted by shiney things or colourful cover art.
>
> I see now your intent was mostly to complain, possibly provoke like minded
> individuals to rally to your "cause"?
> Since there is room for all, I'll just call it a day and let you go on
> your merry way. Have fun with it.
>
> 12+ years experience is a long time. I would suggest it seemed even longer
> to those around you.
>
> Please offer my apologies to your co-workers, especially to any
> subordinates.
>
> "Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
> news:u8zqzqXQFHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> In article <ttx7e.3399$dT4.2991@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
>> Zenner@pacbell.net says...
>>> Check the publish date of the manual then compare the last revised date
>>> of
>>> the Guide.Take the explanation of the newer release.
>>
>> I don't know which 'manual' you are talking about. If you haven't
>> noticed, Windows hasn't come with even a halfway comprehensive manual
>> since 3.11. Besides, the question isn't about what is the latest actual
>> information. It is about what is the latest fantasy MS wants me to
>> memorize for the test. When I can't even get the same version of the
>> fantasy from one chapter to another in a study guide or between the guide
>> and the practice test bound into that same volume, then I'd say the guide
>> is just about worthless.
>>
>>> As a long time professional, you probably forgot that books, manuals,
>>> guides...etc.., are only valid as long as technology is static. The rate
>>> of
>>> change has risen to the point that much documentation is obsolete, soon
>>> after publication, sometimes...even before. Thus the reliance on "Help"
>>> files, "Readme"...or the necessity to visit various vendor web sites
>>> when,
>>> if you want the latest information.
>>
>> As a long time professional I have forgotten nothing of the kind. It's
>> not as if I am still working on the same old DOS machines I started on. I
>> have to keep up with the technology just like anyone else. But when I pay
>> $30 for a book to help me cram for a test I expect it to be accurate to
>> the test it is supposedly helping me cram for.
>>
>>
>>> This brings up one of my pet peeves. Most certification exams fail to
>>> advise
>>> the candidate of which level of the software the test is based. Not a
>>> problem in general, but when asking specific questions, as which screen
>>> or
>>> command line strings are used ...it can make a lot of difference. I have
>>> noted this kind of discrepancy on several occasions. Best bet is go with
>>> the
>>> "general" release level....
>>
>> Now you are getting it.
>>
>>
>>> If you are expecting to achieve a "perfect score" on an exam. you are
>>> putting a lot of unnecessary pressure on yourself.
>>
>> I am not expecting to pass with a perfect score. However, I don't want to
>> fail because it was impossible to get accurate information to study.
>> Besides, with the vast number of entry level MCP's out there it would be
>> a nice addition to my resume to be able to brag about my score.
>>
>>
>>> In my general experience,
>>> a few flaws keeps you honest. Don't want to get too invested in being
>>> "right" at the expense of getting the job "done". It's possible to be
>>> "dead
>>> right"! Kind'a like arguing with the CEO. you may prove your point, but
>>> they
>>> might not care to hear about your 100% record at the new job you are
>>> applying for!
>>
>> Yeah, I don't really need workplace advice. And I don't appreciate my
>> expectation of the availability of accurate information for an exam that
>> costs $125 to take and can make or break a career being compared to the
>> idiocy of getting fired for arguing with a CEO. It is insulting.
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