actual question from Microsoft 70-291 exam

There is a network as follows:

DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet B

5 Client computers in Subnet A:
IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
Default gateway: 10.10.10.65


Server in Subnet B:
IP address: 10.10.10.94
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
Default gateway: 10.10.10.93

Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet mask of
the server is changed to 255.255.255.192


This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?

Thanks in advance

Michael
Fri Jul 04 20:01:21 CDT 2008

"eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no:

> There is a network as follows:
>
> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet B
>
> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>
>
> Server in Subnet B:
> IP address: 10.10.10.94
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>
> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet mask of
> the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>
>
> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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Actual question eh? Are you sure you wrote the question down correctly?

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John
Fri Jul 04 20:21:01 CDT 2008


"eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no...
> There is a network as follows:
>
> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet B
>
> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>
>
> Server in Subnet B:
> IP address: 10.10.10.94
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>
> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet mask of
> the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>
>
> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance
>

Disclosing actual questions from an exam is a direct violation of the NDA
that you agreed to when you took the test. Doing so on a Microsoft new
server is, well, not the brightest thing to do either. Should Microsoft
want to, they can yank not only your future certifications, but also your
current ones.

No matter how confusing a question is, I would watch carefully what I posted
when talking about the specifics of an exam.

John R

eager
Fri Jul 04 22:25:42 CDT 2008


"John R" <jsr^^^813@zoom^^^internet.net> wrote in message
news:%23QclD0j3IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
> news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no...
>> There is a network as follows:
>>
>> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet B
>>
>> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
>> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
>> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>>
>>
>> Server in Subnet B:
>> IP address: 10.10.10.94
>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
>> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>>
>> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet mask
>> of the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>>
>>
>> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>
> Disclosing actual questions from an exam is a direct violation of the NDA
> that you agreed to when you took the test. Doing so on a Microsoft new
> server is, well, not the brightest thing to do either. Should Microsoft
> want to, they can yank not only your future certifications, but also your
> current ones.
>
> No matter how confusing a question is, I would watch carefully what I
> posted when talking about the specifics of an exam.
>
> John R
>

I have not taken the test, neither I intend to. My CCNA knowledge is good
enough.
A friend of mine showed me this question from some TestKing study material,
which, according to him, covers questions from the actual Microsoft exam
....
I told him that the question and the answer do not make any sense to me; it
might be a misprint. However, I thought to make sure, hence the post.
Thanks for the warning though.

James
Mon Jul 07 20:30:54 CDT 2008

I think routes are extentions of gate way's. hope I'm right.
"eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no...
> There is a network as follows:
>
> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet B
>
> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>
>
> Server in Subnet B:
> IP address: 10.10.10.94
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>
> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet mask of
> the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>
>
> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance
>

James
Mon Jul 07 20:34:24 CDT 2008

I think router's are extentions of gatway's
"eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no...
> There is a network as follows:
>
> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet B
>
> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>
>
> Server in Subnet B:
> IP address: 10.10.10.94
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>
> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet mask of
> the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>
>
> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance
>

OTHMAN
Tue Jul 08 04:38:00 CDT 2008

> I think routes are extentions of gate way's. hope I'm right.

how many hopes do you have?

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TheITGirl
Tue Jul 08 05:23:45 CDT 2008


"James Barnett" <Barnettjd@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I think router's are extentions of gatway's
> "eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
> news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no...
>> There is a network as follows:
>>
>> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet B
>>
>> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
>> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
>> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>>
>>
>> Server in Subnet B:
>> IP address: 10.10.10.94
>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
>> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>>
>> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet mask
>> of the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>>
>>
>> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>
Not exactly. Routers are devices that exchange packets between networks (or
subnetworks), as opposed to within a network. The default gateway is the
port on the router which faces the network, and is the point of entry to and
exit from the network. The IP address of the gateway port **must** be on the
same network/subnet as the hosts, otherwise the hosts won't be able to
communicate with hosts on other networks. It is usually configured as the
first usable IP address on the network.

IT Girl MCDST

Consultant
Tue Jul 08 09:38:23 CDT 2008

any ideas? yeah, you just dont get it

"eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no...
> There is a network as follows:
>
> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet B
>
> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>
>
> Server in Subnet B:
> IP address: 10.10.10.94
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>
> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet mask of
> the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>
>
> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance
>

catwalker63
Wed Jul 09 11:16:21 CDT 2008

"TheITGirl" <sleechDELETE@blueyonder.co.uk> prattled ceaselessly in
news:ecfN1SO4IHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>
> "James Barnett" <Barnettjd@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ecZoBrJ4IHA.4856@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I think router's are extentions of gatway's
>> "eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
>> news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no...
>>> There is a network as follows:
>>>
>>> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 - Subnet
>>> B
>>>
>>> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
>>> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
>>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
>>> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>>>
>>>
>>> Server in Subnet B:
>>> IP address: 10.10.10.94
>>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
>>> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>>>
>>> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet
>>> mask of the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>>>
>>>
>>> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>
> Not exactly. Routers are devices that exchange packets between
> networks (or subnetworks), as opposed to within a network. The default
> gateway is the port on the router which faces the network, and is the
> point of entry to and exit from the network. The IP address of the
> gateway port **must** be on the same network/subnet as the hosts,
> otherwise the hosts won't be able to communicate with hosts on other
> networks. It is usually configured as the first usable IP address on
> the network.
>
> IT Girl MCDST
>
>
>

Or the last usable IP Address on the network. Just be consistant.

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kpg
Wed Jul 09 11:45:29 CDT 2008

catwalker63 <_catwalker63_@nunyabzness.com> wrote in
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> "TheITGirl" <sleechDELETE@blueyonder.co.uk> prattled ceaselessly in
> news:ecfN1SO4IHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>>
>> "James Barnett" <Barnettjd@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ecZoBrJ4IHA.4856@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I think router's are extentions of gatway's
>>> "eager" <eager@beaver.it> wrote in message
>>> news:Ylzbk.51501$kx.1741@pd7urf3no...
>>>> There is a network as follows:
>>>>
>>>> DHCP server - Subnet A - 10.10.10.65 - Router - 10.10.10.93 -
Subnet
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>> 5 Client computers in Subnet A:
>>>> IP address: 10.10.10.66 - 10.10.10.70
>>>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.192
>>>> Default gateway: 10.10.10.65
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Server in Subnet B:
>>>> IP address: 10.10.10.94
>>>> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
>>>> Default gateway: 10.10.10.93
>>>>
>>>> Clients cannot connect to the server in Subnet B unless the subnet
>>>> mask of the server is changed to 255.255.255.192
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This does not make any sense to me, any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>
>> Not exactly. Routers are devices that exchange packets between
>> networks (or subnetworks), as opposed to within a network. The
default
>> gateway is the port on the router which faces the network, and is the
>> point of entry to and exit from the network. The IP address of the
>> gateway port **must** be on the same network/subnet as the hosts,
>> otherwise the hosts won't be able to communicate with hosts on other
>> networks. It is usually configured as the first usable IP address on
>> the network.
>>
>> IT Girl MCDST
>>
>>
>>
>
> Or the last usable IP Address on the network. Just be consistant.

Would I be considered a rebel if is use the address 3/7th from the
beginning of the address space, except on tuesdays?

catwalker63
Wed Jul 09 12:58:20 CDT 2008

kpg <no@spam.com> prattled ceaselessly in
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> catwalker63 <_catwalker63_@nunyabzness.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9AD65E9D75212catwalker63athotmail@207.46.248.16:
>
>> "TheITGirl" <sleechDELETE@blueyonder.co.uk> prattled ceaselessly in
>> news:ecfN1SO4IHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> It is usually configured as the first usable IP
>>> address on the network.
>>>
>>> IT Girl MCDST
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Or the last usable IP Address on the network. Just be consistant.
>
> Would I be considered a rebel if is use the address 3/7th from the
> beginning of the address space, except on tuesdays?
>
>
>
>

Prety much, yeah.

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Lawrence
Wed Jul 09 19:48:12 CDT 2008

"kpg" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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>>> It is usually configured as the first usable IP address on
>>> the network.

>> Or the last usable IP Address on the network. Just be consistant.

> Would I be considered a rebel if is use the address 3/7th from the
> beginning of the address space, except on tuesdays?

Or security conscious...

Configuring a router someplace other than where 98% of the world expects to
find it can't be a bad idea.


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Thu Jul 10 08:47:56 CDT 2008

"Lawrence Garvin" <onsite@postalias.news> wrote in
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> "kpg" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9AD6779CB3A7Eipostthereforeiam@207.46.248.16...
>
>>>> It is usually configured as the first usable IP address on
>>>> the network.
>
>>> Or the last usable IP Address on the network. Just be consistant.
>
>> Would I be considered a rebel if is use the address 3/7th from the
>> beginning of the address space, except on tuesdays?
>
> Or security conscious...
>
> Configuring a router someplace other than where 98% of the world
> expects to find it can't be a bad idea.


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I was smater than 98% of everyone else.

Kline
Thu Jul 10 14:18:18 CDT 2008

>any ideas? yeah, you just dont get it

you know damn right!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

JaR
Fri Jul 11 16:04:18 CDT 2008

On 7/7/2008,James Barnett had the unmitigated gall to claim:

> I think router's are extentions of gatway's

http://www.amazon.com/Eats-Shoots-Leaves-Tolerance-Punctuation/dp/159240
0876

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Neil
Tue Jul 15 12:44:39 CDT 2008

did you hear "JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> say in news:u0rsvm54IHA.3480
@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

>
> http://www.amazon.com/Eats-Shoots-Leaves-Tolerance-Punctuation/dp/159240
> 0876
>

I loved that book. Didn't learn a thing, but I loved that book.

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