OT: Thursday Lusers

This one just happened, not 2 minutes ago...
We have a little issue with printing PO forms when the vendor has a NULL
value for AddressLine2 in the Vendor Address table. So, when a new vendor is
entered, every AddressLine must be "touched". That is, a blank space, or
even just hitting enter through the lines solves the problem.

So, our resident d00fus, who's across the hall from me, prints a PO on the
printer in my office, to have my boss proof it before it gets issued. Fine.
But it prints blank. Now, she's been printing POs for years, and we've had
this problem for almost 3 years now with our current system. But still,
every time a new vendor is entered, we go through this.

"Corinne, the PO is blank. Did you update the vendor's address?"
"Uh..."
"Go to the Vendor."
"Uh."
"The Vendor. Open up the vendor."
"You mean the Purchase Order?"
"No. The vendor itself. Click on A/P, then Maintain Vendors. Then enter in
the vendor number."
"So, the Vendor Address?"
"Yes!"
"It won't let me change the address."
...I get up to look at it...
"No, that's still the Purchase Order screen. You didn't go into the vendor
screen. Do that now."
"Uh."
....I grab the mouse....
"There, see that? Click here to get to Accounts Payable. Then click Maintain
Vendor. Now, what's the Vendor number?"
"0000014534."
"What? That's the PO number, isn't it?"
"Yeah."
"No, what is the Vendor number. The people we're buying the books
from....who are they?"
"Oh, oh. 2134."
"Alright, now type that number in there. Then go to the address portion of
the screen. And...wait, you've been doing this for years now, how come you
don't know how to do this?"
"I've never done this before."
...so I finish showing her how to do it, and I go back to my (our) boss and
ask her why she doesn't know how to do this.

And my boss tells me that she's gone through the same thing with Corinne at
least 5 times, but she keeps forgetting to do it because she doesn't have to
do it every single day! This lady has no idea what she does, she just does
her job by rote. Muscle memory, nothing more. She has no idea what effect
she has on the company, what her role is, or what her job means, as far as
the company is concerned. She just enters items, scans book covers, and
enters POs. Doesn't know, and doesn't care, what that actually *means*. So
she doesn't bother to, or simply can't, remember a couple simple steps that
she's been shown at least 6 times now. 6. Times. To click the mouse, oh, 5
times, tops.

I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job I've
held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of lusers that
this place has.
And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.

FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...


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MitchS
Thu Sep 15 16:24:34 CDT 2005

"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%237wVnqjuFHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

> I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job I've
> held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of lusers
> that
> this place has.

If it's any consolation, I work with a pretty dense distribution of them
myself. And this is at a bank no less where you would assume the people
handling this much money would have a clue. Their favorite response when I
ask why they don't get it: "
"*Chuckle,* That's just job security for you I guess." As if running a
consistent network isn't job security.
--
Mitch "PC LOADLETTER" S.
MCSA, A+, Net+, CCNA

CBIC
Thu Sep 15 16:33:10 CDT 2005

but I can't imagine any other place having the density of
> lusers that this place has.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Don't even get me started on this place. "Can you
put my out of office reply on my email for me." I can't wait to get my MCSE
and quit this job. Oh and by the way You're Welcome.
--
aka
Doom MCNGP #38
Is that a burdizzo in your pocket or are you just glad to see me.

4x4islife
Thu Sep 15 17:04:08 CDT 2005

Up until about 3 months ago I worked for a very large government department.
I'm amazed that half the people there dont forget to breath when
concentrating really hard. Since working there I have found I can tolerate
any level of stupidity now. Genuine idiots look talented next to some of the
people I met there.
--
BB
----------------
4x4 > all
Canberra, Australia


"Briscobar" wrote:

> This one just happened, not 2 minutes ago...
> We have a little issue with printing PO forms when the vendor has a NULL
> value for AddressLine2 in the Vendor Address table. So, when a new vendor is
> entered, every AddressLine must be "touched". That is, a blank space, or
> even just hitting enter through the lines solves the problem.
>
> So, our resident d00fus, who's across the hall from me, prints a PO on the
> printer in my office, to have my boss proof it before it gets issued. Fine.
> But it prints blank. Now, she's been printing POs for years, and we've had
> this problem for almost 3 years now with our current system. But still,
> every time a new vendor is entered, we go through this.
>
> "Corinne, the PO is blank. Did you update the vendor's address?"
> "Uh..."
> "Go to the Vendor."
> "Uh."
> "The Vendor. Open up the vendor."
> "You mean the Purchase Order?"
> "No. The vendor itself. Click on A/P, then Maintain Vendors. Then enter in
> the vendor number."
> "So, the Vendor Address?"
> "Yes!"
> "It won't let me change the address."
> ....I get up to look at it...
> "No, that's still the Purchase Order screen. You didn't go into the vendor
> screen. Do that now."
> "Uh."
> .....I grab the mouse....
> "There, see that? Click here to get to Accounts Payable. Then click Maintain
> Vendor. Now, what's the Vendor number?"
> "0000014534."
> "What? That's the PO number, isn't it?"
> "Yeah."
> "No, what is the Vendor number. The people we're buying the books
> from....who are they?"
> "Oh, oh. 2134."
> "Alright, now type that number in there. Then go to the address portion of
> the screen. And...wait, you've been doing this for years now, how come you
> don't know how to do this?"
> "I've never done this before."
> ....so I finish showing her how to do it, and I go back to my (our) boss and
> ask her why she doesn't know how to do this.
>
> And my boss tells me that she's gone through the same thing with Corinne at
> least 5 times, but she keeps forgetting to do it because she doesn't have to
> do it every single day! This lady has no idea what she does, she just does
> her job by rote. Muscle memory, nothing more. She has no idea what effect
> she has on the company, what her role is, or what her job means, as far as
> the company is concerned. She just enters items, scans book covers, and
> enters POs. Doesn't know, and doesn't care, what that actually *means*. So
> she doesn't bother to, or simply can't, remember a couple simple steps that
> she's been shown at least 6 times now. 6. Times. To click the mouse, oh, 5
> times, tops.
>
> I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job I've
> held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of lusers that
> this place has.
> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
>
> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
>
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
> nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.
>
>
>

Vincent
Thu Sep 15 20:57:46 CDT 2005

Dont feel all that bad. The people i work with should be wearing helmets and
working in a padded environment. It seems every conversation i have with
them lowers my IQ. Sadly, most of these people are MD's and PHD's.

I now understand the true feelings of an old BOFH.
Vinny Lape
"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%237wVnqjuFHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> This one just happened, not 2 minutes ago...
> We have a little issue with printing PO forms when the vendor has a NULL
> value for AddressLine2 in the Vendor Address table. So, when a new vendor
> is
> entered, every AddressLine must be "touched". That is, a blank space, or
> even just hitting enter through the lines solves the problem.
>
> So, our resident d00fus, who's across the hall from me, prints a PO on the
> printer in my office, to have my boss proof it before it gets issued.
> Fine.
> But it prints blank. Now, she's been printing POs for years, and we've had
> this problem for almost 3 years now with our current system. But still,
> every time a new vendor is entered, we go through this.
>
> "Corinne, the PO is blank. Did you update the vendor's address?"
> "Uh..."
> "Go to the Vendor."
> "Uh."
> "The Vendor. Open up the vendor."
> "You mean the Purchase Order?"
> "No. The vendor itself. Click on A/P, then Maintain Vendors. Then enter in
> the vendor number."
> "So, the Vendor Address?"
> "Yes!"
> "It won't let me change the address."
> ...I get up to look at it...
> "No, that's still the Purchase Order screen. You didn't go into the vendor
> screen. Do that now."
> "Uh."
> ....I grab the mouse....
> "There, see that? Click here to get to Accounts Payable. Then click
> Maintain
> Vendor. Now, what's the Vendor number?"
> "0000014534."
> "What? That's the PO number, isn't it?"
> "Yeah."
> "No, what is the Vendor number. The people we're buying the books
> from....who are they?"
> "Oh, oh. 2134."
> "Alright, now type that number in there. Then go to the address portion of
> the screen. And...wait, you've been doing this for years now, how come you
> don't know how to do this?"
> "I've never done this before."
> ...so I finish showing her how to do it, and I go back to my (our) boss
> and
> ask her why she doesn't know how to do this.
>
> And my boss tells me that she's gone through the same thing with Corinne
> at
> least 5 times, but she keeps forgetting to do it because she doesn't have
> to
> do it every single day! This lady has no idea what she does, she just does
> her job by rote. Muscle memory, nothing more. She has no idea what effect
> she has on the company, what her role is, or what her job means, as far as
> the company is concerned. She just enters items, scans book covers, and
> enters POs. Doesn't know, and doesn't care, what that actually *means*. So
> she doesn't bother to, or simply can't, remember a couple simple steps
> that
> she's been shown at least 6 times now. 6. Times. To click the mouse, oh, 5
> times, tops.
>
> I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job I've
> held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of lusers
> that
> this place has.
> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
>
> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
>
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
> nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.
>
>

Rob
Fri Sep 16 01:34:09 CDT 2005

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Stupidity.

"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%237wVnqjuFHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> This one just happened, not 2 minutes ago...
> We have a little issue with printing PO forms when the vendor has a NULL
> value for AddressLine2 in the Vendor Address table. So, when a new vendor
> is
> entered, every AddressLine must be "touched". That is, a blank space, or
> even just hitting enter through the lines solves the problem.
>
> So, our resident d00fus, who's across the hall from me, prints a PO on the
> printer in my office, to have my boss proof it before it gets issued.
> Fine.
> But it prints blank. Now, she's been printing POs for years, and we've had
> this problem for almost 3 years now with our current system. But still,
> every time a new vendor is entered, we go through this.
>
> "Corinne, the PO is blank. Did you update the vendor's address?"
> "Uh..."
> "Go to the Vendor."
> "Uh."
> "The Vendor. Open up the vendor."
> "You mean the Purchase Order?"
> "No. The vendor itself. Click on A/P, then Maintain Vendors. Then enter in
> the vendor number."
> "So, the Vendor Address?"
> "Yes!"
> "It won't let me change the address."
> ...I get up to look at it...
> "No, that's still the Purchase Order screen. You didn't go into the vendor
> screen. Do that now."
> "Uh."
> ....I grab the mouse....
> "There, see that? Click here to get to Accounts Payable. Then click
> Maintain
> Vendor. Now, what's the Vendor number?"
> "0000014534."
> "What? That's the PO number, isn't it?"
> "Yeah."
> "No, what is the Vendor number. The people we're buying the books
> from....who are they?"
> "Oh, oh. 2134."
> "Alright, now type that number in there. Then go to the address portion of
> the screen. And...wait, you've been doing this for years now, how come you
> don't know how to do this?"
> "I've never done this before."
> ...so I finish showing her how to do it, and I go back to my (our) boss
> and
> ask her why she doesn't know how to do this.
>
> And my boss tells me that she's gone through the same thing with Corinne
> at
> least 5 times, but she keeps forgetting to do it because she doesn't have
> to
> do it every single day! This lady has no idea what she does, she just does
> her job by rote. Muscle memory, nothing more. She has no idea what effect
> she has on the company, what her role is, or what her job means, as far as
> the company is concerned. She just enters items, scans book covers, and
> enters POs. Doesn't know, and doesn't care, what that actually *means*. So
> she doesn't bother to, or simply can't, remember a couple simple steps
> that
> she's been shown at least 6 times now. 6. Times. To click the mouse, oh, 5
> times, tops.
>
> I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job I've
> held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of lusers
> that
> this place has.
> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
>
> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
>
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
> nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.
>
>

Rob
Fri Sep 16 03:02:55 CDT 2005

"Vincent Lape" <vlape@news.postalias> wrote in message
news:OBzCgFmuFHA.3236@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dont feel all that bad. The people i work with should be wearing helmets
> and working in a padded environment. It seems every conversation i have
> with them lowers my IQ. Sadly, most of these people are MD's and PHD's.

If they are really stupid, you should be able to convince them to ACTUALLY
wear helmets and work in a padded environment.

If you are devious enough and smart enough, it probably wouldn't be too
tough, and... It could be fun! Interested?

Here's how you do it...

First, there's this tinfoil brainwave cap phooeynomena. Someone around here
has the link. It's a conspiracy, and you'd need to know about it thoroughly.

Next, tell them about it, subtly and indirectly. Slide some propaganda
documents into the medical files. Allow a little alien conspiracy spam to
get into the office emails. This will introduce them to the concept. Next,
change a few lightbulbs with blacklights, then replace them when people
freak out and go get the janitor. This will make people think they are
experiencing mind control effects. Play NPR throughout the building instead
of the tranquil office music. Invite them, one by one, to see a few creepy
movies about mind control. That might scare them enough to wear tinfoil
helmets immediately.

Get some linoleum or tiles, whatever your office floors are. Each night,
after everyone goes home, add a new layer to the floor. As the flooring gets
higher, people will start hitting their heads on the ceiling.

If that doesn't work, you're going to have to do creative thinking to get
the task done...

If you are responsible for the computers in their office, you have a lot of
options.

If you work for the government and have the smarts, you could simply turn
the computers at work into mind control machines. Control their brains until
they start wearing their helmets willingly like docile controlled subjects.
At that point you should have no trouble programming them to add the padding
to the walls.

Now, all of those options require a lot of work and a lot of brain time. You
might not be sophisticated enough to wage psychological warfare or invent
mind control. I don't know anyone that is, but it's possible that they are
controlling my mind to mask their true identities, and that I've been unable
to thwart their efforts at psychological warfare.

So there's a second, cruder option, which may work on a lower level.

Wax the floors or eat a lot of bananas and leave the peels lying around.
People will slip and fall. This will lend credibility to your argument that
the cells... er, walls... need to be padded.

Contact the city building inspectors and inform them that there could be
code violations in the old delapidated office. The office will need to pay
fines, and repairs will need to be made. In the process, a few of your
coworkers could get bonked in the head. Bingo! Now there's a need to wear
helmets.


If all of that sounds too devious and requires too much effort for you,
because it certainly sounds too devious and also sounds like a lot of work
to me, you could consider the following...

My theory about these people is that they aren't necessarily stupid.
Computers are just alien technology to them. Perhaps as alien to them as
molecular biochemistry could be to you, or the fact that people actually
like music by Michael Bolton is to me.

When you tell them to click OK, it doesn't register because they don't
totally grasp the relationship between the mouse pointer and the mouse. They
don't think they are clicking OK. They think you are telling them to invent
time travel. And they aren't equipped for that.

But they probably know more about making a good bundt cake, household
decorating, stuffing envelopes, and keeping a good paper filing system
online in case the computers go down than you or I ever will. Well, I sure
as hell am not going to make a bundt cake and start decorating.

So, if mind control, helmets, and padded walls, deviousness, and all
fails... do the right thing. Be patient, accept it, and let it go. But don't
forget to pee on the door to their car when no one is looking.

MCSB MCNGP #46 MCNGP.COM WE'RE HERE TO HELP -- WITH YOUR MIND CONTROL
SOFTWARE

LnkWizard
Fri Sep 16 07:39:22 CDT 2005


"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%237wVnqjuFHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

<snipped for brevity, plus I don't want to invoke Catwalker's ire, she has
a shotgun and isn't afraid to use it.>

> I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job I've
> held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of lusers
that
> this place has.
> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
>
> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
> nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.
>
I may have you beat, we have 450+ users here and I go through
that all the time. Especially with the engineers. I think I have about
5 users who have a clue.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Lnkwizard2 MCNGP 2^5

http://www.mcngp.com
"He who does not test himself is worthless indeed"
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Neil
Fri Sep 16 10:02:09 CDT 2005

did you hear =?Utf-8?B?NHg0aXNsaWZl?= <4x4islife@discussions.microsoft.com>
say in news:5151E79C-474B-4624-AFDE-55E212C6D446@microsoft.com:

> Since working there I have found I can tolerate
> any level of stupidity now.

then you are perfectly suited for help desk

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Patience: A virtue that carries a lot of wait.

Neil
Fri Sep 16 10:04:24 CDT 2005

did you hear "Rob Lindman" <@> say in
news:e09BqTpuFHA.3864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

> First, there's this tinfoil brainwave cap phooeynomena. Someone around
> here has the link. It's a conspiracy, and you'd need to know about it
> thoroughly.

your choice:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

or

http://www.stopabductions.com/

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- User - a technical term used by computer pros. See idiot.

Neil
Fri Sep 16 10:08:35 CDT 2005

did you hear "Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> say in
news:#7wVnqjuFHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl:

> This one just happened, not 2 minutes ago...
> We have a little issue with printing PO forms when the vendor has a
> NULL value for AddressLine2 in the Vendor Address table. So, when a
> new vendor is entered, every AddressLine must be "touched". That is, a
> blank space, or even just hitting enter through the lines solves the
> problem.
>
> So, our resident d00fus, who's across the hall from me, prints a PO on
> the printer in my office, to have my boss proof it before it gets
> issued. Fine. But it prints blank. Now, she's been printing POs for
> years, and we've had this problem for almost 3 years now with our
> current system. But still, every time a new vendor is entered, we go
> through this.
>
> "Corinne, the PO is blank. Did you update the vendor's address?"
> "Uh..."
> "Go to the Vendor."
> "Uh."
> "The Vendor. Open up the vendor."
> "You mean the Purchase Order?"
> "No. The vendor itself. Click on A/P, then Maintain Vendors. Then
> enter in the vendor number."
> "So, the Vendor Address?"
> "Yes!"
> "It won't let me change the address."
> ...I get up to look at it...
> "No, that's still the Purchase Order screen. You didn't go into the
> vendor screen. Do that now."
> "Uh."
> ....I grab the mouse....
> "There, see that? Click here to get to Accounts Payable. Then click
> Maintain Vendor. Now, what's the Vendor number?"
> "0000014534."
> "What? That's the PO number, isn't it?"
> "Yeah."
> "No, what is the Vendor number. The people we're buying the books
> from....who are they?"
> "Oh, oh. 2134."
> "Alright, now type that number in there. Then go to the address
> portion of the screen. And...wait, you've been doing this for years
> now, how come you don't know how to do this?"
> "I've never done this before."
> ...so I finish showing her how to do it, and I go back to my (our)
> boss and ask her why she doesn't know how to do this.
>
> And my boss tells me that she's gone through the same thing with
> Corinne at least 5 times, but she keeps forgetting to do it because
> she doesn't have to do it every single day! This lady has no idea what
> she does, she just does her job by rote. Muscle memory, nothing more.
> She has no idea what effect she has on the company, what her role is,
> or what her job means, as far as the company is concerned. She just
> enters items, scans book covers, and enters POs. Doesn't know, and
> doesn't care, what that actually *means*. So she doesn't bother to, or
> simply can't, remember a couple simple steps that she's been shown at
> least 6 times now. 6. Times. To click the mouse, oh, 5 times, tops.
>
> I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job
> I've held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of
> lusers that this place has.
> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
>
> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
>
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
> nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.
>
>

leave this on her desk:

http://www.phule.net/mirrors/unskilled-and-unaware.html

and if she has difficulty reading that offer this website:

http://www.literacycenter.net/lessonview_en.htm#

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- It is better to Burn Out, than to Fade Away...

Briscobar
Fri Sep 16 10:35:20 CDT 2005

Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> rambled:
>
> and if she has difficulty reading that offer this website:
>
> http://www.literacycenter.net/lessonview_en.htm#

Bwahahahahaha!

--
KB

MCNGP #26
www.mcngp.com nailed the Olsen twins before they were famous.

JaR
Fri Sep 16 11:27:25 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Briscobar spewed across the ether:

> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
>
> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...

Oh, indeed.

ME: "I.T. This is JaR"

L: "My printer won't work, I need it ASAP!"

ME: "Is it out of toner?"

L: "I'm pretty sure that's not it. It just won't print!"

ME: "Did you check the toner?"

L: "YES! I told you, I'm pretty sure it's something else."

ME: "'Kay, I'll be up in a little while."

L: "Hurry, 'cause I need the printer to neep neep neep..."

20 minute drive to $Store later...

L: "See! There's a little light flashing on the top and it won't print!"

ME: "You mean the little flashing light that's shaped like an ink drop?"

Grrrrrr....

Not only is it Friday, but one week vacation starts in 6 hrs, 33 mins,
not that I'm counting.

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

MitchS
Fri Sep 16 11:34:53 CDT 2005

Do you have any means of remote printer administration? When I run in to
that problem I'll remotely check the operator panel and supplies menu.

--
Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
MCSA, A+, Net+, CCNA

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96D36033634F6Misanthrope@207.46.248.16...
> In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Briscobar spewed across the ether:
>
>> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
>>
>> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
>
> Oh, indeed.
>
> ME: "I.T. This is JaR"
>
> L: "My printer won't work, I need it ASAP!"
>
> ME: "Is it out of toner?"
>
> L: "I'm pretty sure that's not it. It just won't print!"
>
> ME: "Did you check the toner?"
>
> L: "YES! I told you, I'm pretty sure it's something else."
>
> ME: "'Kay, I'll be up in a little while."
>
> L: "Hurry, 'cause I need the printer to neep neep neep..."
>
> 20 minute drive to $Store later...
>
> L: "See! There's a little light flashing on the top and it won't print!"
>
> ME: "You mean the little flashing light that's shaped like an ink drop?"
>
> Grrrrrr....
>
> Not only is it Friday, but one week vacation starts in 6 hrs, 33 mins,
> not that I'm counting.
>
> --
> JaR
> Thug 10110
> MCNGP.com

Bill
Fri Sep 16 11:39:07 CDT 2005

We still get "My Microsoft isn't working"



"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%237wVnqjuFHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> This one just happened, not 2 minutes ago...
> We have a little issue with printing PO forms when the vendor has a NULL
> value for AddressLine2 in the Vendor Address table. So, when a new vendor
is
> entered, every AddressLine must be "touched". That is, a blank space, or
> even just hitting enter through the lines solves the problem.
>
> So, our resident d00fus, who's across the hall from me, prints a PO on the
> printer in my office, to have my boss proof it before it gets issued.
Fine.
> But it prints blank. Now, she's been printing POs for years, and we've had
> this problem for almost 3 years now with our current system. But still,
> every time a new vendor is entered, we go through this.
>
> "Corinne, the PO is blank. Did you update the vendor's address?"
> "Uh..."
> "Go to the Vendor."
> "Uh."
> "The Vendor. Open up the vendor."
> "You mean the Purchase Order?"
> "No. The vendor itself. Click on A/P, then Maintain Vendors. Then enter in
> the vendor number."
> "So, the Vendor Address?"
> "Yes!"
> "It won't let me change the address."
> ...I get up to look at it...
> "No, that's still the Purchase Order screen. You didn't go into the vendor
> screen. Do that now."
> "Uh."
> ....I grab the mouse....
> "There, see that? Click here to get to Accounts Payable. Then click
Maintain
> Vendor. Now, what's the Vendor number?"
> "0000014534."
> "What? That's the PO number, isn't it?"
> "Yeah."
> "No, what is the Vendor number. The people we're buying the books
> from....who are they?"
> "Oh, oh. 2134."
> "Alright, now type that number in there. Then go to the address portion of
> the screen. And...wait, you've been doing this for years now, how come you
> don't know how to do this?"
> "I've never done this before."
> ...so I finish showing her how to do it, and I go back to my (our) boss
and
> ask her why she doesn't know how to do this.
>
> And my boss tells me that she's gone through the same thing with Corinne
at
> least 5 times, but she keeps forgetting to do it because she doesn't have
to
> do it every single day! This lady has no idea what she does, she just does
> her job by rote. Muscle memory, nothing more. She has no idea what effect
> she has on the company, what her role is, or what her job means, as far as
> the company is concerned. She just enters items, scans book covers, and
> enters POs. Doesn't know, and doesn't care, what that actually *means*. So
> she doesn't bother to, or simply can't, remember a couple simple steps
that
> she's been shown at least 6 times now. 6. Times. To click the mouse, oh, 5
> times, tops.
>
> I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job I've
> held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of lusers
that
> this place has.
> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
>
> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
>
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
> nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.
>
>

JaR
Fri Sep 16 12:11:31 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, MitchS spewed across the ether:

> Do you have any means of remote printer administration? When I run in
> to that problem I'll remotely check the operator panel and supplies
> menu.

Some yes, some no. A lot of the printers, like the one above are just
cheap-james inkjets plugged into the local host.

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

Briscobar
Fri Sep 16 12:22:58 CDT 2005

Bill McPherson <billmcpherson@gmail.com> rambled:
>
> We still get "My Microsoft isn't working"

Oh yeah, I get that too. "Your Microsoft what isn't working? You mean you
can't turn on your computer or you can't type a letter or you can't send an
email?" Then, trying to explain the difference between Windows and
Office...I've actually given up on that.

--
KB

MCNGP #26
www.mcngp.com is best for all new updates than
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/mcngp.

Jim
Fri Sep 16 12:28:06 CDT 2005

I just say, "Yeah we have been having problems with our Microsoft today,
what exactly are you trying to do?" Easier than attempting to explain to
them why they are morons.

"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:OSywoMuuFHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Bill McPherson <billmcpherson@gmail.com> rambled:
>>
>> We still get "My Microsoft isn't working"
>
> Oh yeah, I get that too. "Your Microsoft what isn't working? You mean you
> can't turn on your computer or you can't type a letter or you can't send
> an
> email?" Then, trying to explain the difference between Windows and
> Office...I've actually given up on that.
>
> --
> KB
>
> MCNGP #26
> www.mcngp.com is best for all new updates than
> www.groups.yahoo.com/group/mcngp.
>
>

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 12:38:12 CDT 2005

Good to hear that the UK is not the only country employing lusers.
I work for the UK gov.

nanu nanu,
m0rk

"4x4islife" <4x4islife@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5151E79C-474B-4624-AFDE-55E212C6D446@microsoft.com...
| Up until about 3 months ago I worked for a very large government department.
| I'm amazed that half the people there dont forget to breath when
| concentrating really hard. Since working there I have found I can tolerate
| any level of stupidity now. Genuine idiots look talented next to some of the
| people I met there.
| --
| BB
| ----------------
| 4x4 > all
| Canberra, Australia
|
|
| "Briscobar" wrote:
|
| > This one just happened, not 2 minutes ago...
| > We have a little issue with printing PO forms when the vendor has a NULL
| > value for AddressLine2 in the Vendor Address table. So, when a new vendor is
| > entered, every AddressLine must be "touched". That is, a blank space, or
| > even just hitting enter through the lines solves the problem.
| >
| > So, our resident d00fus, who's across the hall from me, prints a PO on the
| > printer in my office, to have my boss proof it before it gets issued. Fine.
| > But it prints blank. Now, she's been printing POs for years, and we've had
| > this problem for almost 3 years now with our current system. But still,
| > every time a new vendor is entered, we go through this.
| >
| > "Corinne, the PO is blank. Did you update the vendor's address?"
| > "Uh..."
| > "Go to the Vendor."
| > "Uh."
| > "The Vendor. Open up the vendor."
| > "You mean the Purchase Order?"
| > "No. The vendor itself. Click on A/P, then Maintain Vendors. Then enter in
| > the vendor number."
| > "So, the Vendor Address?"
| > "Yes!"
| > "It won't let me change the address."
| > ....I get up to look at it...
| > "No, that's still the Purchase Order screen. You didn't go into the vendor
| > screen. Do that now."
| > "Uh."
| > .....I grab the mouse....
| > "There, see that? Click here to get to Accounts Payable. Then click Maintain
| > Vendor. Now, what's the Vendor number?"
| > "0000014534."
| > "What? That's the PO number, isn't it?"
| > "Yeah."
| > "No, what is the Vendor number. The people we're buying the books
| > from....who are they?"
| > "Oh, oh. 2134."
| > "Alright, now type that number in there. Then go to the address portion of
| > the screen. And...wait, you've been doing this for years now, how come you
| > don't know how to do this?"
| > "I've never done this before."
| > ....so I finish showing her how to do it, and I go back to my (our) boss and
| > ask her why she doesn't know how to do this.
| >
| > And my boss tells me that she's gone through the same thing with Corinne at
| > least 5 times, but she keeps forgetting to do it because she doesn't have to
| > do it every single day! This lady has no idea what she does, she just does
| > her job by rote. Muscle memory, nothing more. She has no idea what effect
| > she has on the company, what her role is, or what her job means, as far as
| > the company is concerned. She just enters items, scans book covers, and
| > enters POs. Doesn't know, and doesn't care, what that actually *means*. So
| > she doesn't bother to, or simply can't, remember a couple simple steps that
| > she's been shown at least 6 times now. 6. Times. To click the mouse, oh, 5
| > times, tops.
| >
| > I don't have much experience in offices - this is the only office job I've
| > held - but I can't imagine any other place having the density of lusers that
| > this place has.
| > And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
| >
| > FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
| >
| >
| > --
| > KB
| >
| > MCNGP #26
| > nerd32768 needs your business. Visit www.mcngp.com today.
| >
| >
| >

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 12:39:37 CDT 2005

there is a difference?


"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:OSywoMuuFHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Bill McPherson <billmcpherson@gmail.com> rambled:
| >
| > We still get "My Microsoft isn't working"
|
| Oh yeah, I get that too. "Your Microsoft what isn't working? You mean you
| can't turn on your computer or you can't type a letter or you can't send an
| email?" Then, trying to explain the difference between Windows and
| Office...I've actually given up on that.
|
| --
| KB
|
| MCNGP #26
| www.mcngp.com is best for all new updates than
| www.groups.yahoo.com/group/mcngp.
|
|

JaR
Fri Sep 16 12:37:01 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Briscobar spewed across the ether:

> Oh yeah, I get that too. "Your Microsoft what isn't working? You mean
> you can't turn on your computer or you can't type a letter or you
> can't send an email?" Then, trying to explain the difference between
> Windows and Office...I've actually given up on that.

I recently had on of my little darlings lock up her 98 box. I told her to
hard boot, but she said that it didn't work, everything stayed just the
same. I finally went over to see what the problem was, and discovered that
she was switching the monitor off and on.

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

Talyn
Fri Sep 16 12:39:02 CDT 2005

I have that ability but they still argue that "I have paper in the printer".
Really? is that why it still has " printer out of paper" on the display?

My favorite is still the call I got to change a light bulb. stupid loan
officer was scared he would get shocked.

I have a hard time explaining to people that just because it is plugged into
the wall doesn't mean it is my responsability!


"MitchS" wrote:

> Do you have any means of remote printer administration? When I run in to
> that problem I'll remotely check the operator panel and supplies menu.
>
> --
> Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
> MCSA, A+, Net+, CCNA
>
> "JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96D36033634F6Misanthrope@207.46.248.16...
> > In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Briscobar spewed across the ether:
> >
> >> And by that, I mean that the lusers are both dense and densely packed.
> >>
> >> FURRFU! Glad tomorrow's Friday...
> >
> > Oh, indeed.
> >
> > ME: "I.T. This is JaR"
> >
> > L: "My printer won't work, I need it ASAP!"
> >
> > ME: "Is it out of toner?"
> >
> > L: "I'm pretty sure that's not it. It just won't print!"
> >
> > ME: "Did you check the toner?"
> >
> > L: "YES! I told you, I'm pretty sure it's something else."
> >
> > ME: "'Kay, I'll be up in a little while."
> >
> > L: "Hurry, 'cause I need the printer to neep neep neep..."
> >
> > 20 minute drive to $Store later...
> >
> > L: "See! There's a little light flashing on the top and it won't print!"
> >
> > ME: "You mean the little flashing light that's shaped like an ink drop?"
> >
> > Grrrrrr....
> >
> > Not only is it Friday, but one week vacation starts in 6 hrs, 33 mins,
> > not that I'm counting.
> >
> > --
> > JaR
> > Thug 10110
> > MCNGP.com
>
>
>

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 12:42:58 CDT 2005

Like an jameshole i created a new thread rather than just replying "m0rk"
<m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:8qDWe.761$QU3.457@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
| Good to hear that the UK is not the only country employing lusers.
| I work for the UK gov.

ah bollox, I dont visit group for two days, then I forget how to use OE. feck
this wasn't ment to be a new message.

what a lamer I am...

m0rk

Talyn
Fri Sep 16 12:41:06 CDT 2005

Ask them to insert another dollar into the slot. Microsoft is on a idiot
per minute fee.

"Jim" wrote:

> I just say, "Yeah we have been having problems with our Microsoft today,
> what exactly are you trying to do?" Easier than attempting to explain to
> them why they are morons.
>
> "Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
> news:OSywoMuuFHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Bill McPherson <billmcpherson@gmail.com> rambled:
> >>
> >> We still get "My Microsoft isn't working"
> >
> > Oh yeah, I get that too. "Your Microsoft what isn't working? You mean you
> > can't turn on your computer or you can't type a letter or you can't send
> > an
> > email?" Then, trying to explain the difference between Windows and
> > Office...I've actually given up on that.
> >
> > --
> > KB
> >
> > MCNGP #26
> > www.mcngp.com is best for all new updates than
> > www.groups.yahoo.com/group/mcngp.
> >
> >
>
>
>

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 12:46:00 CDT 2005

sweet it magically got fixed for me!

something mistical happening here

nanu nanu,
m0rk

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:CuDWe.763$QU3.247@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
| Like an jameshole i created a new thread rather than just replying "m0rk"
| <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8qDWe.761$QU3.457@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
|| Good to hear that the UK is not the only country employing lusers.
|| I work for the UK gov.
|
| ah bollox, I dont visit group for two days, then I forget how to use OE. feck
| this wasn't ment to be a new message.
|
| what a lamer I am...
|
| m0rk
|

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 12:50:47 CDT 2005

Have to admit, my personal favourite; is when people reboot the monitor .

For a moment - I'd love to be them, when they see the smirk on my face.

m0rk

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
| I recently had on of my little darlings lock up her 98 box. I told her to
| hard boot, but she said that it didn't work, everything stayed just the
| same. I finally went over to see what the problem was, and discovered that
| she was switching the monitor off and on.
|
| --
| JaR
| Thug 10110
| MCNGP.com

Briscobar
Fri Sep 16 13:18:13 CDT 2005

m0rk <m0rk@gmail.com> rambled:
>
> Have to admit, my personal favourite; is when people reboot the
> monitor .

For the folks here that still have CRTs, as opposed to LCD flat-screens, I
make it a point to degauss their monitors whenever I have to pay them a
visit. One day last week, I went down to the receiving department in the
warehouse because one of them was having a problem with Outlook. So I show
up, uncheck "Work Offline", duh, and proceed to degauss the monitor, because
I'm sure it hasn't been done in, oh, 6 months or so. Need to keep it fresh,
right? So I do it, and when it gets all wavy, she says to me "That's a neat
screensaver, but how come it only comes on when you push the button? Do I
have to push the button whenever I want the screensaver to come on now?"

Ugh.


--
KB

MCNGP #26
My psychiatrist recommends 10mg of Valium, a shot of Tequila, and
twice-daily viewings of the b00bz0rs forum on www.mcngp.com

JaR
Fri Sep 16 13:18:24 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, m0rk spewed across the ether:

> sweet it magically got fixed for me!
>
> something mistical happening here

The force is with you, young jedi.

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

Briscobar
Fri Sep 16 13:20:10 CDT 2005

m0rk <m0rk@gmail.com> rambled:
>
> there is a difference?

Apparently only to those in the upper 1% of technical knowledge. The rest of
the unwashed masses can't tell Microsoft Windows from bay windows.

--
KB

MCNGP #26
www.mcngp.com worked as a stripper to pay for college.

JaR
Fri Sep 16 13:21:51 CDT 2005

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Briscobar spewed across the ether:

> "That's a neat
> screensaver, but how come it only comes on when you push the button? Do
I
> have to push the button whenever I want the screensaver to come on
now?"

Heh. I can see $luser sitting there punching that button.

*click*
"Pretty!"
"Awww"
*click*
"Pretty!"
"Awww"
*click*
"Pretty!"
"Awww"
*click*
"Pretty!"
"Awww"
*click*
"Pretty!"
"Awww"
*click*
"Pretty!"
"Awww"
*click*...

LOL!

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:24:03 CDT 2005

Outlook Express??? ha ha ha... your such a gay bar! get a real news reader.

m0rk

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:CuDWe.763$QU3.247@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
| Like an jameshole i created a new thread rather than just replying "m0rk"
| <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8qDWe.761$QU3.457@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
|| Good to hear that the UK is not the only country employing lusers.
|| I work for the UK gov.
|
| ah bollox, I dont visit group for two days, then I forget how to use OE. feck
| this wasn't ment to be a new message.
|
| what a lamer I am...
|
| m0rk
|

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:24:52 CDT 2005

These magnets rock!

nanu nanu

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96D37304FF864Misanthrope@207.46.248.16...
| In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, m0rk spewed across the ether:
|
| > sweet it magically got fixed for me!
| >
| > something mistical happening here
|
| The force is with you, young jedi.
|
| --
| JaR
| Thug 10110
| MCNGP.com

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:25:38 CDT 2005

screw you m0rk

m0rk

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:75EWe.771$QU3.15@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
| Outlook Express??? ha ha ha... your such a gay bar! get a real news reader.
|
| m0rk

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:26:00 CDT 2005

screw you!

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C6EWe.773$QU3.336@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
| screw you m0rk
|
| m0rk
|
| "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:75EWe.771$QU3.15@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
|| Outlook Express??? ha ha ha... your such a gay bar! get a real news reader.
||
|| m0rk
|

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:26:23 CDT 2005

stop fighting with yourself

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Y6EWe.774$QU3.518@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
| screw you!
|
| "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:C6EWe.773$QU3.336@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
|| screw you m0rk
||
|| m0rk
||
|| "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:75EWe.771$QU3.15@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
||| Outlook Express??? ha ha ha... your such a gay bar! get a real news reader.
|||
||| m0rk
||
|

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:27:27 CDT 2005

sorry mom.
I'm so bored.

*wonder whan the wife gets home*
nanu nanu

"m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j7EWe.775$QU3.342@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
| stop fighting with yourself
|
| "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:Y6EWe.774$QU3.518@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
|| screw you!
||
|| "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:C6EWe.773$QU3.336@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
||| screw you m0rk
|||
||| m0rk
|||
||| "m0rk" <m0rk@gmail.com> wrote in message
||| news:75EWe.771$QU3.15@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
|||| Outlook Express??? ha ha ha... your such a gay bar! get a real news reader.
||||
|||| m0rk
|||
||
|

Rob
Fri Sep 16 13:26:42 CDT 2005

Thanks, Neil, we can always count on you to protect our brains.

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96D370A4CB082neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear "Rob Lindman" <@> say in
> news:e09BqTpuFHA.3864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
>
>> First, there's this tinfoil brainwave cap phooeynomena. Someone around
>> here has the link. It's a conspiracy, and you'd need to know about it
>> thoroughly.
>
> your choice:
>
> http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
>
> or
>
> http://www.stopabductions.com/
>
> --
> Neil MCNGP#30
>
> - User - a technical term used by computer pros. See idiot.

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:29:53 CDT 2005

Good morning, helpdesk

Hi it's jill from accounts here, I wondering if you can help, my monitor isn't
working anymore. I was watching the screensaver then it went 'pop'

"JaR" <jrderby@lakabux.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96D3739A64FCFMisanthrope@207.46.248.16...
| In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Briscobar spewed across the ether:
|
| > "That's a neat
| > screensaver, but how come it only comes on when you push the button? Do
| I
| > have to push the button whenever I want the screensaver to come on
| now?"
|
| Heh. I can see $luser sitting there punching that button.
|
| *click*
| "Pretty!"
| "Awww"
| *click*
| "Pretty!"
| "Awww"
| *click*
| "Pretty!"
| "Awww"
| *click*
| "Pretty!"
| "Awww"
| *click*
| "Pretty!"
| "Awww"
| *click*
| "Pretty!"
| "Awww"
| *click*...
|
| LOL!
|
| --
| JaR
| Thug 10110
| MCNGP.com

Rob
Fri Sep 16 13:28:05 CDT 2005


"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:%23yWedQtuFHA.3100@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> www.mcngp.com nailed the Olsen twins before they were famous.

You slept with their feti?

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:31:01 CDT 2005

Hell I used to think UNIX was a dark sith lord.

nanu nanu

"Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:usLYksuuFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| m0rk <m0rk@gmail.com> rambled:
| >
| > there is a difference?
|
| Apparently only to those in the upper 1% of technical knowledge. The rest of
| the unwashed masses can't tell Microsoft Windows from bay windows.
|
| --
| KB
|
| MCNGP #26
| www.mcngp.com worked as a stripper to pay for college.
|
|

m0rk
Fri Sep 16 13:32:51 CDT 2005

I heard Neil actually nailed their dolls by accident. time to get those glasses
checked i think.


"Rob Lindman" <@> wrote in message news:OsG08wuuFHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
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| "Briscobar" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
| news:%23yWedQtuFHA.3100@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > www.mcngp.com nailed the Olsen twins before they were famous.
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| You slept with their feti?
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