Hi

I got a bachelor in Management Information System in 1988. Following that,
I got a MBA and followed doctoral studies in unrelated fields
(international management and political sciences). Since 1990 and up to
very recently, I worked both as university teacher and international
consultant in management.

During all these years, I not only closely followed technology changes and
self-trained myself to security, network, server deployment, vpn, backup
strategies, cms deployment, etc, but also regularly made few bucks with
small IT consultation contracts. I've also been the part-time IT
administrator of a small daycare for the last two years.

I always learned fast and by myself. It's almost a trademark for me.

I am looking for a career change. I'm fed up with teaching.

Although I am considered a "computer wizard" by many, the IT jobs I seek
unfortunately require more than "self-learning" abilities but real formal
certifications like MSCE. I want that certification.

As I understand it, I just have to self-study material at home and schedule
exams with PearsonVue to a local test center for a total cost of 750$
(6x150$) to get the certification.

Considering that I am already familiar with significant parts of the examen
content, that I can have free access to most self-training materials and
that I have strong abilities learning by myself:

1) do you believe self-learning is sufficent to get the certification?
2) what timeframe would be realistic to complete the certification? (my
guess is between 6 months at best and a year at worst)
3) Will the certification be automatically granted at the end of the sixth
exam or are there additionnal conditions/procedures to be followed?

Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with me. I spent some time
reading MS webpages about certifications but some wordings and informations
are more confusing than enlightening. This is my first certification ever.

RE: Reality Check info by gtright

gtright
Mon Jan 23 03:41:02 CST 2006

Dude I rely feel sorry how things turned out for yaâ??
Considering the ongoing knowledge, study and education u had like MBA,
bachelor in Management Information System, worked both as university teacher
and international consultant in management. etc.. -----

dmn... if I ware u I would be the head of NASA by now, and not someone
whoâ??s asking How can I become a Microsoft certified engineer. ;- MCSE is
for uneducated people who want to advance their career and catch up with the
new world job struggle. but if u want to regret leaving your current field of
work. then get your MCSE and go to India to look for MCSE jobs!

nowadays. people been unemployed for so long that they are rushing to get
MCSE hoping to qualify them for the lowest IT job they come across. But
unfortunately neither works!.

Good luck
--------
Iâ??m outsourced- be back on 2020
----------------------------------------=


"CoffeeMan" wrote:

> Hi
>
> I got a bachelor in Management Information System in 1988. Following that,
> I got a MBA and followed doctoral studies in unrelated fields
> (international management and political sciences). Since 1990 and up to
> very recently, I worked both as university teacher and international
> consultant in management.
>
> During all these years, I not only closely followed technology changes and
> self-trained myself to security, network, server deployment, vpn, backup
> strategies, cms deployment, etc, but also regularly made few bucks with
> small IT consultation contracts. I've also been the part-time IT
> administrator of a small daycare for the last two years.


Re: Reality Check info by Patrick

Patrick
Mon Jan 23 07:00:14 CST 2006

Hi CoffeeMan (my answers are inline)
CoffeeMan wrote:
> Hi
>
> I got a bachelor in Management Information System in 1988. Following that,
> I got a MBA and followed doctoral studies in unrelated fields
> (international management and political sciences). Since 1990 and up to
> very recently, I worked both as university teacher and international
> consultant in management.
>
> During all these years, I not only closely followed technology changes and
> self-trained myself to security, network, server deployment, vpn, backup
> strategies, cms deployment, etc, but also regularly made few bucks with
> small IT consultation contracts. I've also been the part-time IT
> administrator of a small daycare for the last two years.
>
> I always learned fast and by myself. It's almost a trademark for me.
>
> I am looking for a career change. I'm fed up with teaching.
>
> Although I am considered a "computer wizard" by many, the IT jobs I seek
> unfortunately require more than "self-learning" abilities but real formal
> certifications like MSCE. I want that certification.
>
> As I understand it, I just have to self-study material at home and schedule
> exams with PearsonVue to a local test center for a total cost of 750$
> (6x150$) to get the certification.
>
> Considering that I am already familiar with significant parts of the examen
> content, that I can have free access to most self-training materials and
> that I have strong abilities learning by myself:
>
> 1) do you believe self-learning is sufficent to get the certification?

In your case, Yes. I believe you can do it by self-learning. In fact,
from my reading in this newsgroup, that's what most of the posters
recommend. Get the books, and make a lab.

> 2) what timeframe would be realistic to complete the certification? (my
> guess is between 6 months at best and a year at worst)

I would agree with the timeframe. If you already have a lot of
experience in what you're trying to learn, you'll pick it up quicker.
Mainly the certifications are just 'proof' of what experience you
already have. That's not to say that there isn't learning/studying
involved. Just that if you've been putting it into practice, you know
the material.

> 3) Will the certification be automatically granted at the end of the sixth
> exam or are there additionnal conditions/procedures to be followed?

I believe, that it will be automatically granted. For each exam that
you pass, you'll receive a MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional)
certificate. When you've met the requirements for the MCSE, they'll
give you that certificate as well.

Just make sure that you keep your information updated on the MCP
website. (You'll get access to this after you pass the first exam).

>
> Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with me. I spent some time
> reading MS webpages about certifications but some wordings and informations
> are more confusing than enlightening. This is my first certification ever.
>


--
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http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com
Smile.. someone out there cares deeply for you.

RE: Reality Check info by tefoley24

tefoley24
Mon Jan 23 08:11:02 CST 2006

My name is Tom Foley age 48 now, In 1999 searching to get out of retail after
20 yrs I got the hairbrain idea to quit drinking alcohol get out of retail
and go to college, well I did all that got a student loan and got my MCSE
well I did manage to get a contract job thru Kelly Services at GE in Ft Myers
for a big 9 bucks an hour then Sept 11 happened and I am back in the retail
now for 4 yrs nowstill have a student loan for 20 grand I never made a
payment on yet and struggling hard. I hope Im not the only one out here
please respond.
Thanks,
Tom Foley

"CoffeeMan" wrote:

> Hi
>
> I got a bachelor in Management Information System in 1988. Following that,
> I got a MBA and followed doctoral studies in unrelated fields
> (international management and political sciences). Since 1990 and up to
> very recently, I worked both as university teacher and international
> consultant in management.
>
> During all these years, I not only closely followed technology changes and
> self-trained myself to security, network, server deployment, vpn, backup
> strategies, cms deployment, etc, but also regularly made few bucks with
> small IT consultation contracts. I've also been the part-time IT
> administrator of a small daycare for the last two years.
>
> I always learned fast and by myself. It's almost a trademark for me.
>
> I am looking for a career change. I'm fed up with teaching.
>
> Although I am considered a "computer wizard" by many, the IT jobs I seek
> unfortunately require more than "self-learning" abilities but real formal
> certifications like MSCE. I want that certification.
>
> As I understand it, I just have to self-study material at home and schedule
> exams with PearsonVue to a local test center for a total cost of 750$
> (6x150$) to get the certification.
>
> Considering that I am already familiar with significant parts of the examen
> content, that I can have free access to most self-training materials and
> that I have strong abilities learning by myself:
>
> 1) do you believe self-learning is sufficent to get the certification?
> 2) what timeframe would be realistic to complete the certification? (my
> guess is between 6 months at best and a year at worst)
> 3) Will the certification be automatically granted at the end of the sixth
> exam or are there additionnal conditions/procedures to be followed?
>
> Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with me. I spent some time
> reading MS webpages about certifications but some wordings and informations
> are more confusing than enlightening. This is my first certification ever.
>
>

Re: Reality Check info by Kline

Kline
Mon Jan 23 08:32:02 CST 2006

>My name is Tom Foley age 48 now, In 1999 searching to get out of retail after
>20 yrs I got the hairbrain idea to quit drinking alcohol get out of retail
>and go to college

Bit late in the day! College is for young spotty dudes who have just
discovered girls!

You should be thinking of retirement, not changing careers. I'm
outahere when hit the big five-O, for a stress filled life of skiing,
fishing, golf and 'drinking alcohol'.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Mon Jan 23 11:04:29 CST 2006

CoffeeMan <CoffeeMan@nowhere.com> said something like

Dear CoffeeMan,

Why remove any doubt as to your usefulness to society by
pursuing an MCSE when you have such good academic
qualification?

Your average MCSEs are a dime a dozen, and that's about the
pay scale too. Genuinely Qualified MCSE are rare and without
the actual experience, you won't be able to pull it off.

You want a change of career? Fine. There are no doubt
numerous organizations out there that need intelligent
people to fill a wide range of positions.

Buy a good career change book and go from there.

kp "0.02" g




Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Mon Jan 23 11:31:11 CST 2006

did you hear CoffeeMan <CoffeeMan@nowhere.com> say in
news:Xns97541DA1B373DCoffeeMan@207.46.248.16:

> CoffeeMan <CoffeeMan@nowhere.com>

I likes the cuts of your jib. haven't read the post. just like the
handle....

--
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- My 12 step program: never be more than twelve steps away from chocolate.

Re: Reality Check info by TechGeekPro

TechGeekPro
Mon Jan 23 12:17:15 CST 2006

On Jan 23, 2006 at 2:54am "CoffeeMan" blathered:

> <snip>

Self-study is best.

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Re: Reality Check info by LRM

LRM
Mon Jan 23 14:44:39 CST 2006

"Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
news:uqp9t15gb7ejb651m2jrsl8d7qa7fnqror@4ax.com...
>
> Bit late in the day! College is for young spotty dudes who have just
> discovered girls!

Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to school at
37.

--
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MCNGP 7^2



Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Mon Jan 23 14:49:33 CST 2006

did you hear "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> say in
news:#lgQW3FIGHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

> Then I must have really hawt when I went back to school
> at 37.
>

ifypfy

--
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- I came real close to seeing Elvis once, but my shovel broke.

Re: Reality Check info by Patrick

Patrick
Mon Jan 23 20:58:32 CST 2006

LRM wrote:
> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
> news:uqp9t15gb7ejb651m2jrsl8d7qa7fnqror@4ax.com...
>> Bit late in the day! College is for young spotty dudes who have just
>> discovered girls!
>
> Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to school at
> 37.
>

Then I look out of place too. I'm 35. And tutoring a bunch of 21
through 24 year olds.

--
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http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com
Smile.. someone out there cares deeply for you.

Re: Reality Check info by Kline

Kline
Tue Jan 24 03:50:31 CST 2006

>Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to school at
>37.

do you have any pics of you as a cheerleader?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Re: Reality Check info by CoffeeMan

CoffeeMan
Tue Jan 24 07:48:47 CST 2006

Thanks to everybody for sharing information!


Re: Reality Check info by FrisbeeŽ

Frisbee®
Tue Jan 24 08:03:43 CST 2006

"CoffeeMan" <CoffeeMan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975559A88E606CoffeeMan@207.46.248.16...
> Thanks to everybody for sharing information!

Access denied.



Re: Reality Check info by LRM

LRM
Tue Jan 24 11:40:23 CST 2006

"Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
news:g2ubt1l9033lqekjfpg4utgdgeeaadtd3n@4ax.com...
> >Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to school at
>>37.
>
> do you have any pics of you as a cheerleader?
>
What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my life
would have been a cheerleader?

--
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MCNGP 7^2



Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Tue Jan 24 11:48:24 CST 2006

LRM <Fskspam@friedspam.com> said something like

> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my
> life would have been a cheerleader?


Wishful thinking. or fantasizing.

Re: Reality Check info by LRM

LRM
Tue Jan 24 12:03:10 CST 2006

"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam> wrote in message
news:Xns9755781B8991ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> LRM <Fskspam@friedspam.com> said something like
>
>> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my
>> life would have been a cheerleader?
>
>
> Wishful thinking. or fantasizing.

I'm just not a sideline kind of girl. I prefer to be in the action.
Fantasize about that instead.

--
LRM
MCNGP 7^2



Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Tue Jan 24 12:05:23 CST 2006

did you hear "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> say in news:uabPD1QIGHA.140
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my life
> would have been a cheerleader?
>

awwwww crap, another fantasy destroyed.

--
The InterNeil MCNGP#30

- Cool Hand of Borg: What we have here is a failure to assimilate.

Re: Reality Check info by JaR

JaR
Tue Jan 24 12:10:09 CST 2006

Echoed forth from the dank caverns of microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, the
plaintive wail of LRM:

>>
> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my life
> would have been a cheerleader?

I bet you were the quarterback.

--
JaR
MCNGP 10110
Remove hat to reply
If McDonalds were run like a software company, one out of every hundred
Big Macs would give you food poisoning -- and the response would be, "We're
sorry, here's a coupon for two more". ~Mark Minasi

Re: Reality Check info by LRM

LRM
Tue Jan 24 12:20:44 CST 2006

"JaR" <lakabuxstetson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97556772D8BE7Talleywhacker@207.46.248.16...
> Echoed forth from the dank caverns of microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, the
> plaintive wail of LRM:
>
>>>
>> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my life
>> would have been a cheerleader?
>
> I bet you were the quarterback.
>
> --
Metaphorically you could say that I called the shots.

--
LRM
MCNGP 7^2



Re: Reality Check info by Briscobar

Briscobar
Tue Jan 24 12:27:21 CST 2006

JaR <lakabuxstetson@gmail.com> rambled:
>>>
>> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my
>> life would have been a cheerleader?
>
> I bet you were the quarterback.

I'm head of the class
I'm popular
I'm a quarterback
I'm popular
My mom says I'm a catch
I'm popular
I'm never last picked
I got a cheerleader chick

I'm the party star
I'm popular
I've got my own car
I'm popular
I'll never get caught
I'm popular
I make football bets
I'm a teacher's pet...


--
KB

MCNGP #26
www.mcngp.com is best for all new updates than
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/mcngp.



Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Tue Jan 24 12:33:34 CST 2006

LRM <Fskspam@friedspam.com> said something like

>>> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my
>>> life would have been a cheerleader?
>>
>>
>> Wishful thinking. or fantasizing.
>
> I'm just not a sideline kind of girl. I prefer to be in the action.
> Fantasize about that instead.


OK. I'll be back in a few, I, um, have something to do.

Re: Reality Check info by TechGeekPro

TechGeekPro
Tue Jan 24 12:39:42 CST 2006

On Jan 24, 2006 at 1:03pm "LRM" blathered:

> I'm just not a sideline kind of girl. I prefer to be in the action.
> Fantasize about that instead.

I do, nightly.

--
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Better than it was before. Better, stronger, faster.

Did you hear the one about the statistician? Probably....

Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Tue Jan 24 13:01:45 CST 2006

did you hear "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> say in news:OZN2xBRIGHA.1728
@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> I'm just not a sideline kind of girl. I prefer to be in the action.
> Fantasize about that instead.
>

11,11,11,11....

--
The InterNeil MCNGP#30

- If a man is alone in a forest, is he still wrong?

Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Tue Jan 24 13:02:11 CST 2006

did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
news:Xns97557FC464508ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

> OK. I'll be back in a few, I, um, have something to do.

go ahead, I'm done....

--
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- If a man is alone in a forest, is he still wrong?

Re: Reality Check info by Mike

Mike
Tue Jan 24 16:13:02 CST 2006


"Patrick Dickey" <pd1ckey43@msn.com.removethis> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Oc$cQIJIGHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> LRM wrote:
>> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
>> news:uqp9t15gb7ejb651m2jrsl8d7qa7fnqror@4ax.com...
>>> Bit late in the day! College is for young spotty dudes who have just
>>> discovered girls!
>>
>> Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to school at
>> 37.
>>
>
> Then I look out of place too. I'm 35. And tutoring a bunch of 21 through
> 24 year olds.
>

I know that feeling. I worked rings around people half my age. My mistake
was moving to a country where age discrimination is legal and accepted.
Every third job has age requirements (and 99% are < 35). Fat lot of good
that does my 43-year-old self.

--
Mike T.
MCNGP #XLI
Steeeempy, you eeeeediot!



Re: Reality Check info by FrisbeeŽ

Frisbee®
Wed Jan 25 07:54:58 CST 2006

"LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> wrote in message
news:uabPD1QIGHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
> news:g2ubt1l9033lqekjfpg4utgdgeeaadtd3n@4ax.com...
>> >Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to school
>> >at
>>>37.
>>
>> do you have any pics of you as a cheerleader?
>>
> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my life
> would have been a cheerleader?

Those pom-poms?



Re: Reality Check info by LRM

LRM
Wed Jan 25 09:50:01 CST 2006

"Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ObrnkabIGHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> wrote in message
> news:uabPD1QIGHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
>> news:g2ubt1l9033lqekjfpg4utgdgeeaadtd3n@4ax.com...
>>> >Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to school
>>> >at
>>>>37.
>>>
>>> do you have any pics of you as a cheerleader?
>>>
>> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my life
>> would have been a cheerleader?
>
> Those pom-poms?
>
SHHHHH! I only show those to you.

--
LRM
MCNGP 7^2



Re: Reality Check info by TechGeekPro

TechGeekPro
Wed Jan 25 09:54:34 CST 2006

On Jan 25, 2006 at 10:50am "LRM" blathered:

> "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ObrnkabIGHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:uabPD1QIGHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
>>> news:g2ubt1l9033lqekjfpg4utgdgeeaadtd3n@4ax.com...
>>>> >Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to school
>>>> >at
>>>>>37.
>>>>
>>>> do you have any pics of you as a cheerleader?
>>>>
>>> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my life
>>> would have been a cheerleader?
>>
>> Those pom-poms?
>>
> SHHHHH! I only show those to you.

I'm so jealous.

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Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Wed Jan 25 09:57:32 CST 2006

TechGeekPro <%username%@gmail.com> said something like

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\187634.htm (1/25/2006
> 9:56:36 AM) # On Jan 25, 2006 at 10:50am "LRM" blathered:
>
>> "Frisbee®" <billLASTNAME@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ObrnkabIGHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uabPD1QIGHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
>>>> news:g2ubt1l9033lqekjfpg4utgdgeeaadtd3n@4ax.com...
>>>>> >Then I must have really looked out of place when I went back to
>>>>> >school at
>>>>>>37.
>>>>>
>>>>> do you have any pics of you as a cheerleader?
>>>>>
>>>> What in the world gave you the idea that I ever at any stage in my
>>>> life would have been a cheerleader?
>>>
>>> Those pom-poms?
>>>
>> SHHHHH! I only show those to you.
>
> I'm so jealous.

Hey, do what I do. Photoshop them in.

Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 12:35:48 CST 2006

did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
news:Xns97566543B5184ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

> Hey, do what I do. Photoshop them in.

share?

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Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Wed Jan 25 12:39:25 CST 2006

Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> said something like

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\187769.htm (1/25/2006
> 12:38:32 PM) # did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
> news:Xns97566543B5184ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:
>
>> Hey, do what I do. Photoshop them in.
>
> share?

sure. Let me forward you my pay pal information.

Re: Reality Check info by LnkWizard

LnkWizard
Wed Jan 25 12:55:25 CST 2006


"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam> wrote in message
news:Xns975680B675D39ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> said something like
>
> > # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\187769.htm (1/25/2006
> > 12:38:32 PM) # did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
> > news:Xns97566543B5184ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:
> >
> >> Hey, do what I do. Photoshop them in.
> >
> > share?
>
> sure. Let me forward you my pay pal information.

You better make sure you give LRM a cut of your profits
from the sales or I am sure she will make you wish you had.

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Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Wed Jan 25 12:59:46 CST 2006

LnkWizard <lnk.wizard.nodots2@hotmail.com> said something like

> You better make sure you give LRM a cut of your profits
> from the sales or I am sure she will make you wish you had.


I'm counting on it.



Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 12:59:48 CST 2006

did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
news:Xns975680B675D39ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

> Let me forward you my pay pal information.

cool, and I thought that phishing scam wouldn't work here.

--
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Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 13:01:51 CST 2006

did you hear "LnkWizard" <lnk.wizard.nodots2@hotmail.com> say in news:
#F61nDeIGHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> I am sure she will make you wish you had.

might be worth it, kpg

--
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- The only good lawyer is a -- naw, not even then.

Re: Reality Check info by LRM

LRM
Wed Jan 25 14:45:41 CST 2006

"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam> wrote in message
news:Xns97568429738E8ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> LnkWizard <lnk.wizard.nodots2@hotmail.com> said something like
>
>> You better make sure you give LRM a cut of your profits
>> from the sales or I am sure she will make you wish you had.
>
>
> I'm counting on it.
>
>
Are you sure? We're talking St. Andrews cross here followed by suspension
hooks...

--
LRM
MCNGP 7^2



Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Wed Jan 25 14:50:16 CST 2006

LRM <Fskspam@friedspam.com> said something like

> Are you sure? We're talking St. Andrews cross here followed by
> suspension hooks...

I don't even know what that is but I'm beginnig to re-think it.


Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 15:02:08 CST 2006

did you hear "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> say in news:#7MmQBfIGHA.3144
@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> We're talking St. Andrews cross here followed by suspension
> hooks...

oooo, I'm out. suspension hooks are more than I'm gonna take...

my safe word is Orange

orange...

Orange!

"ORANGE" I SAID!!!!!!

--
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Re: Reality Check info by LnkWizard

LnkWizard
Wed Jan 25 15:02:45 CST 2006


"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam> wrote in message
news:Xns975696E6872A0ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> LRM <Fskspam@friedspam.com> said something like
>
> > Are you sure? We're talking St. Andrews cross here followed by
> > suspension hooks...
>
> I don't even know what that is but I'm beginnig to re-think it.
>
I do, and you won't like it, I guarantee that.

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Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 15:02:50 CST 2006

did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
news:Xns975696E6872A0ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

> I don't even know what that is but I'm beginnig to re-think it.

you can take teh cross, but the hooks are, um, physically attached to
you...

--
The InterNeil MCNGP#30

- Once a king always a king, but once a knight isn't enough.

Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Wed Jan 25 15:06:34 CST 2006

Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> said something like

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\187923.htm (1/25/2006
> 3:05:58 PM) # did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
> news:Xns975696E6872A0ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:
>
>> I don't even know what that is but I'm beginnig to re-think it.
>
> you can take teh cross, but the hooks are, um, physically attached to
> you...

Ohhhhh....

OK then, I'm in!

Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 15:13:25 CST 2006

did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
news:Xns975699AAAFDC4ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

> Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> said something like
>
>> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\187923.htm (1/25/2006
>> 3:05:58 PM) # did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
>> news:Xns975696E6872A0ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:
>>
>>> I don't even know what that is but I'm beginnig to re-think it.
>>
>> you can take teh cross, but the hooks are, um, physically attached to
>> you...
>
> Ohhhhh....
>
> OK then, I'm in!

I thought you were smarter than this.

--
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- The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein

Re: Reality Check info by LRM

LRM
Wed Jan 25 15:14:49 CST 2006

"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam> wrote in message
news:Xns975696E6872A0ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1...
> LRM <Fskspam@friedspam.com> said something like
>
>> Are you sure? We're talking St. Andrews cross here followed by
>> suspension hooks...
>
> I don't even know what that is but I'm beginnig to re-think it.
>
Wise move, otherwise you would have a lot of spainin' to do when you arrived
home battered and bloody...not sure how you would manage that one. Neil
might be a source of information. Of course he would have to charge you a
fee.

--
LRM
MCNGP 7^2



Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Wed Jan 25 15:17:30 CST 2006

Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> said something like

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\187946.htm (1/25/2006
> 3:16:15 PM) # did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
> news:Xns975699AAAFDC4ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:
>
>> Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> said something like
>>
>>> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\187923.htm (1/25/2006
>>> 3:05:58 PM) # did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
>>> news:Xns975696E6872A0ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:
>>>
>>>> I don't even know what that is but I'm beginnig to re-think it.
>>>
>>> you can take teh cross, but the hooks are, um, physically attached
>>> to you...
>>
>> Ohhhhh....
>>
>> OK then, I'm in!
>
> I thought you were smarter than this.

Oh No. What ever gave you that idea?

Was it something I said?

Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 15:27:45 CST 2006

did you hear kpg <ipost@thereforeiam> say in
news:Xns97569B8547681ipostthereforeiam@127.0.0.1:

>> I thought you were smarter than this.
>
> Oh No. What ever gave you that idea?
>
> Was it something I said?

I must have just assumed so...but you know what happens when you
assume....some jackass tells you 'you shouldn't' in an obnoxious way.

--
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- A cannibal only opens his mouth to change your feet.

Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 15:29:04 CST 2006

did you hear "LRM" <Fskspam@friedspam.com> say in
news:#GmJiRfIGHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> Neil
> might be a source of information. Of course he would have to charge
> you a fee.
>

It's a steep fee.....has to cover my medical expenses as OHIP doesn't feel
that my injuries should be handled by the tax-payers.

--
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- Make something idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Re: Reality Check info by kpg

kpg
Wed Jan 25 15:34:15 CST 2006

Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> said something like

> I must have just assumed so...but you know what happens when you
> assume....some jackass tells you 'you shouldn't' in an obnoxious way.

Oh don't be an a$$.

Re: Reality Check info by JaR

JaR
Wed Jan 25 16:05:18 CST 2006

Echoed forth from the dank caverns of microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse,
the plaintive wail of Neil:

> It's a steep fee.....has to cover my medical expenses as OHIP doesn't
> feel that my injuries should be handled by the tax-payers.

So much for you much-vaunted health-care plan!

--
JaR
MCNGP 10110
Remove hat to reply
A few minutes ago I attempted to give a flying fsck, but the best I could
do was to watch it skitter across the floor. (Anthony de Boer)

Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Wed Jan 25 20:07:38 CST 2006

did you hear JaR <lakabuxstetson@gmail.com> say in
news:Xns97568F5145971Talleywhacker@207.46.248.16:

> Echoed forth from the dank caverns of microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse,
> the plaintive wail of Neil:
>
>> It's a steep fee.....has to cover my medical expenses as OHIP doesn't
>> feel that my injuries should be handled by the tax-payers.
>
> So much for you much-vaunted health-care plan!
>

still cheaper than the US. sometimes they don't realize that the injuries
were, um, recreational....

--
The InterNeil MCNGP#30

- Even a philosopher gets upset with a toothache.

Re: Reality Check info by MitchS

MitchS
Thu Jan 26 07:38:42 CST 2006

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9756D6EA89E8Cneilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear JaR <lakabuxstetson@gmail.com> say in
> news:Xns97568F5145971Talleywhacker@207.46.248.16:
>
>> Echoed forth from the dank caverns of microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse,
>> the plaintive wail of Neil:
>>
>>> It's a steep fee.....has to cover my medical expenses as OHIP doesn't
>>> feel that my injuries should be handled by the tax-payers.
>>
>> So much for you much-vaunted health-care plan!
>>
>
> still cheaper than the US. sometimes they don't realize that the injuries
> were, um, recreational....

Perhaps you could write up an invoice and claim workers comp..

--
Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?)
Get yer sorry James over to www.mcngp.com



Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Thu Jan 26 07:48:25 CST 2006

did you hear "MitchS" <firstinitlastname@nospam.gmail.com> say in news:
#dub81nIGHA.1876@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> Perhaps you could write up an invoice and claim workers comp..

I don't think so, she was doing all the work...

--
The InterNeil MCNGP#30

- No, Scotty, I said, "Beam me ABOARD," not "A BROAD."

Re: Reality Check info by MitchS

MitchS
Thu Jan 26 08:05:50 CST 2006

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97575996ED327neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear "MitchS" <firstinitlastname@nospam.gmail.com> say in news:
> #dub81nIGHA.1876@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
>
>> Perhaps you could write up an invoice and claim workers comp..
>
> I don't think so, she was doing all the work...

So the only difference between that and your day job is that at least
someone was doing the work?

--
Mitch "yer such a Jameshole" S.
MCNGP XLVIII (Now do the other certs REALLY matter?)
Get yer sorry James over to www.mcngp.com



Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Thu Jan 26 08:20:01 CST 2006

did you hear "MitchS" <firstinitlastname@nospam.gmail.com> say in
news:uTsAHFoIGHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

> So the only difference between that and your day job is that at least
> someone was doing the work?

please, no one does anything at my.....oh, I get it...

--
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- Iraqi Bingo: B-52... F-16... M-1... F-18... F-117...

Re: Reality Check info by JaR

JaR
Thu Jan 26 10:12:35 CST 2006

Echoed forth from the dank caverns of microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, the
plaintive wail of Neil:

> still cheaper than the US.

Cite?

--
JaR
MCNGP 10110
Remove hat to reply
Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre
Gide

Re: Reality Check info by Neil

Neil
Thu Jan 26 10:22:21 CST 2006

did you hear JaR <lakabuxstetson@gmail.com> say in
news:Xns97575383726AATalleywhacker@207.46.248.16:

> Echoed forth from the dank caverns of microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse,
> the plaintive wail of Neil:
>
>> still cheaper than the US.
>
> Cite?
>

just because I have to wait 6 weeks for medical care does not mean that
ours is any less efficient than....k, never mind....

--
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- MAFIA.SYS Not Found -- Program Not Executed.

Re: Reality Check info by LRM

LRM
Thu Jan 26 22:13:31 CST 2006

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975773B03CF88neilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> did you hear JaR <lakabuxstetson@gmail.com> say in
> news:Xns97575383726AATalleywhacker@207.46.248.16:
>
>> Echoed forth from the dank caverns of microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse,
>> the plaintive wail of Neil:
>>
>>> still cheaper than the US.
>>
>> Cite?
>>
>
> just because I have to wait 6 weeks for medical care does not mean that
> ours is any less efficient than....k, never mind....
>
Six weeks? is that with or without a gushing head injury?

--
LRM
MCNGP 7^2