Well, it's day 2 of our migration from 2K to XP for the client machines. Our
network admin isn't around today, as usual for a Tuesday, and my boss is out
today, due to unforseen family events, or something. So that leaves me. Now,
do you all want to listen to what the fukc I'm doing all day? I don't think
you do, because you'll pummel me into the ground for uttering such
blasphemous words, but I'm going to spit it out anyways...

So, we're "upgrading" from 2K Pro to XP Pro. But we're not upgrading. We're
doing "fresh", "clean" installs. Only not exactly. Let me explain. I've been
instructed to back up each computers' Documents and Settings folder, any
folders that "look like they may contain user's files", and (get this),
Program Files. So I back them up using Windows' backup utility. Easy enough.
Put them out on a file server, and get along with the installation. Boot
from our brandy-spankin' new XP disks, and install it ALONG SIDE Win2K. Yes,
you heard me right. We're not upgrading, but I've been forbidden to format
the drives. The closest thing I can do is convert any FAT32 drives over to
NTFS. Which will not change the stupidity of the situation. So, I dutifully
do as I'm told, installing XP next to 2K (yes, in the same folder). This,
against M$'s warnings during install to visit their multiboot page, and
warnings that what I'm about to do isn't the smartest thing in the world.
So, I asked the head honcho of this project why, exactly, we're doing things
this way (that is, installing XP along side 2K). And he says to me "oh, it
will overwrite 2000." And I said, no, we're not upgrading you said. You told
me we were doing fresh installs. "Yes, we are. And it will overwrite 2000
with XP." Not wanting to argue, and embracing the fact that I'm off the hook
for this (and thereby guaranteeing me a job fixing this mess in the future),
I went about my business. I installed on the first computer, happy as can
be. It installs great, and when I reboot, guess what happens? Yup, it asks
me whether I want to boot into 2000 or XP. Hmmmmm....didn't see that one
coming, did I? So, my instructions now are to not alter the way I'm doing
things, but to simply edit the boot.ini file once the install is complete.
This will "effectively" "delete" Windows 2000. I can smell disaster. This
setup is only slightly more stable than Windows ME on a 5 year old eMachines
box with a failing hard drive. Now, remember I said I was to backup Program
Files? Yeah, well now it's time to restore backups. So, I do as I'm told and
begin restoring, knowing full well the adventures that lay before me. Of
course, once backups are restored, most programs won't work. Acrobat Reader
works, and a couple custom apps work. But now I've got a mess of program
directories with executables, dlls, and other assorted garbage in them that
just won't work. And worst of all, they're not "removable" (by Add/Remove
Programs....because they're not installed. They're *there*, but they're not
installed.) So, I begin the awful task of reinstalling what I can, what they
need, and what I feel like giving them. So, the time comes to install our
accounting/inventory software. It's called Best. And it's not. It's nothing
but trouble. So, after freezing on the install on the first machine for over
an hour, it finally "finishes". Turns out all it installed was some Best
diagnostic something-or-other. So I have to scrap it and delete the
appropriate Program Files directory, and go at it again. This time it works.
So, after I finish installing the junk for the lusers, all is well. Of
course, it's only a matter of time before 2K and XP decide they want a
divorce and cant handle living together in the same directory, and sh!t hits
the fan. Then the real fun begins.

So, I was here until 9 last night doing this, I was in at 7 this morning
doing this, but I'm getting my a$$ out of here at 5:30, not a minute later,
today. I don't know how much I can take of doing this the wrong way.

Whether I like it or not, I'm just doing what I'm told. :(

--

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first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com

Re: OT: Progress report by Rick

Rick
Tue May 11 14:07:38 CDT 2004

"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in
news:egFQ8m4NEHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> Well, it's day 2 of our migration from 2K to XP for the client
> machines.

Wow, you got hired by my old company?


Re: OT: Progress report by Vigo

Vigo
Tue May 11 14:09:16 CDT 2004

Rick Vigorous <rick@normanbombardini.hairloaf> wrote in news:_v9oc.18477
$2f6.718164@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

Stupid @#$% XNews multiple identites. Then again, if I didn't insist on a
different wierd pseudonym for each newsgroup, I wouldn't have this problem.




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Re: Progress report by Jtyc

Jtyc
Tue May 11 14:15:53 CDT 2004

Yeah um... you upgrade plan is not a good one. I suggest revisting your
project plan and making some major revisions.



oh, and tell your boss he's an idiot.



Re: OT: Progress report by JaR

JaR
Tue May 11 14:17:05 CDT 2004

On Tue, 11 May 2004 14:57:08 -0400, Ken Briscoe extemporised:

> Well, it's day 2 of our migration from 2K to XP for the client machines. Our
> network admin isn't around today, as usual for a Tuesday, and my boss is out
> <rant snipped>

You do, of course, have this moron's instructions in writing. Right?

If so, frustrating as it is, I would call the situation 'Job Security' and
'Overtime', and 'Time for that raise', and possibly even 'Now that $Luser
has been terminated, about that promotion...'

If not, well, I feel your pain. You will, naturally, be accused of not
following instructions properly.

Is your boss related to the owner, too?

JaR
Commiserating Thug

Re: OT: Progress report by Jtyc

Jtyc
Tue May 11 14:18:32 CDT 2004

> Rick Vigorous
> different wierd pseudonym for each newsgroup

Is this your porn name alias for the adult newsgroups?



Re: Progress report by Ken

Ken
Tue May 11 14:22:07 CDT 2004

"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OGrbix4NEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Yeah um... you upgrade plan is not a good one.

Yes, this I know.

> I suggest revisting your
> project plan and making some major revisions.

Hahahahaahaha! "Project plan"! Hahahhahahahaha!

> oh, and tell your boss he's an idiot.

You see, it's not really my boss that's doing it, although my boss wouldn't
have a much better strategy, I'm sure. Our network admin guy is a
consultant, who's here 3 days a week, and in emergencies. So he makes sure
everything runs smoothly MWF, but leaves us on our own TTh. It's *his*
"plan". I thought he was much smarter than this. This seems to be the only
blatant mistake he's made. Of course, he does a lot of behind-the-scenes
stuff, that he's probably F'ed up one way or another.

Oh well, back to the "upgrades." Er, "installs". Whatever.

--

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first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com



Re: OT: Progress report by JaR

JaR
Tue May 11 14:23:00 CDT 2004

On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:09:16 +0000, Vigo Breadcrumbs extemporised:

> Rick Vigorous <rick@normanbombardini.hairloaf> wrote in news:_v9oc.18477
> $2f6.718164@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
>
> Stupid @#$% XNews multiple identites. Then again, if I didn't insist on a
> different wierd pseudonym for each newsgroup, I wouldn't have this problem.
>

Today must be the day for it. Reloading the newsreader at fault in my case.

A pattern is slowly emerging, however. A couple more goofs might bring it
into focus.

JaR
Schiso Thug

Re: OT: Progress report by Vigo

Vigo
Tue May 11 14:45:55 CDT 2004

"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:eqnDBz4NEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:

>> Rick Vigorous
>> different wierd pseudonym for each newsgroup
>
> Is this your porn name alias for the adult newsgroups?

No to both, though the name is certainly laden with double meaning. It's a
character from the book "Broom of the System" by David Foster Wallace (of
"Infinite Jest" fame). To make matters worse, the character is the editor
of the "Frequent and Vigorous Literary Review." He also has
a...ummm...vesitgal...manhood, so that, in the words of the character
himself, he "cannot enter the gates of love, but only make a mess on the
doorstep of love."

I'm sure a Freudian adherent would have a field day with this one.




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Re: OT: Progress report by Vigo

Vigo
Tue May 11 14:47:06 CDT 2004

Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in
news:T3aoc.18482$2f6.720023@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

>...ummm...vesitgal...

Dammit. I'm also aphasic today. That would be "vestigal."




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Re: OT: Progress report by billLASTINIT

billLASTINIT
Tue May 11 14:55:15 CDT 2004

Vigo Breadcrumbs wrote:
> Vigo Breadcrumbs <vigo@breadcrumbbs.com> wrote in
> news:T3aoc.18482$2f6.720023@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
>
>> ...ummm...vesitgal...
>
> Dammit. I'm also aphasic today. That would be "vestigal."

So when he vesits a gal, he gets vestigal?

--
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Certaholics
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics


Re: OT: Progress report by Vigo

Vigo
Tue May 11 14:58:07 CDT 2004

JaR <Nunyobidness@softhome.net> wrote in
news:pan.2004.05.11.19.23.00.58299@softhome.net:

> A pattern is slowly emerging, however. A couple more goofs might bring
> it into focus.

Hah. I dunno what you'll find, beside a propensity toward juvenilia and
self-amusement. I have had any number of those with whom I've had Usenet-
based arguments (usually only after I've managed a particularly good point)
attempt to diagnose the "issues" I reveal through my choice of pseudonym.
Right. A cigar is always just a cigar, unless it's a Casa Blanca Jeroboam
which, at 10 inches long with a one inch diameter, probably is symbolic of
something.



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Re: OT: Progress report by billLASTINIT

billLASTINIT
Tue May 11 15:13:25 CDT 2004

Vigo Breadcrumbs wrote:
> JaR <Nunyobidness@softhome.net> wrote in
> news:pan.2004.05.11.19.23.00.58299@softhome.net:
>
>> A pattern is slowly emerging, however. A couple more goofs might
>> bring it into focus.
>
> Hah. I dunno what you'll find, beside a propensity toward juvenilia
> and self-amusement. I have had any number of those with whom I've
> had Usenet- based arguments (usually only after I've managed a
> particularly good point) attempt to diagnose the "issues" I reveal
> through my choice of pseudonym. Right. A cigar is always just a
> cigar, unless it's a Casa Blanca Jeroboam which, at 10 inches long
> with a one inch diameter, probably is symbolic of something.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

--
Fris "Never smoke a cigar bigger than your Johnson" bee®

Certaholics
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics


Re: OT: Progress report by JaR

JaR
Tue May 11 15:22:27 CDT 2004

On Tue, 11 May 2004 16:13:25 -0400, Frisbee® extemporised:

> Vigo Breadcrumbs wrote:
>> JaR <Nunyobidness@softhome.net> wrote in
>> news:pan.2004.05.11.19.23.00.58299@softhome.net:
>>
>>> A pattern is slowly emerging, however. A couple more goofs might
>>> bring it into focus.
>>
>> Hah. I dunno what you'll find, beside a propensity toward juvenilia
>> and self-amusement. I have had any number of those with whom I've
>> had Usenet- based arguments (usually only after I've managed a
>> particularly good point) attempt to diagnose the "issues" I reveal
>> through my choice of pseudonym. Right. A cigar is always just a
>> cigar, unless it's a Casa Blanca Jeroboam which, at 10 inches long
>> with a one inch diameter, probably is symbolic of something.
>
> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

>--
>Fris "Never smoke a cigar bigger than your Johnson" bee®

Yez can call it Jay, or yez can call it Ray,
Or yez can call it Ray-Jay,
But ya doesn't hasta call it Johnson!


Re: Progress report by TechGeekPro

TechGeekPro
Tue May 11 15:25:52 CDT 2004

"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:egFQ8m4NEHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Well, it's day 2 of our migration from 2K to XP for the client machines.
Our
> network admin isn't around today, as usual for a Tuesday, and my boss is
out
> today, due to unforseen family events, or something. So that leaves me.
Now,
> do you all want to listen to what the fukc I'm doing all day? I don't
think
> you do, because you'll pummel me into the ground for uttering such
> blasphemous words, but I'm going to spit it out anyways...
>
> So, we're "upgrading" from 2K Pro to XP Pro. But we're not upgrading.
We're
> doing "fresh", "clean" installs. Only not exactly. Let me explain. I've
been
> instructed to back up each computers' Documents and Settings folder, any
> folders that "look like they may contain user's files", and (get this),
> Program Files. So I back them up using Windows' backup utility. Easy
enough.
> Put them out on a file server, and get along with the installation. Boot
> from our brandy-spankin' new XP disks, and install it ALONG SIDE Win2K.
Yes,
> you heard me right. We're not upgrading, but I've been forbidden to format
> the drives. The closest thing I can do is convert any FAT32 drives over to
> NTFS. Which will not change the stupidity of the situation. So, I
dutifully
> do as I'm told, installing XP next to 2K (yes, in the same folder). This,
> against M$'s warnings during install to visit their multiboot page, and
> warnings that what I'm about to do isn't the smartest thing in the world.
> So, I asked the head honcho of this project why, exactly, we're doing
things
> this way (that is, installing XP along side 2K). And he says to me "oh, it
> will overwrite 2000." And I said, no, we're not upgrading you said. You
told
> me we were doing fresh installs. "Yes, we are. And it will overwrite 2000
> with XP." Not wanting to argue, and embracing the fact that I'm off the
hook
> for this (and thereby guaranteeing me a job fixing this mess in the
future),

Let me guess, your "head honcho" has tons of "experience" but no Microsoft
certifications right? I used to work for a guy like this. He'd have me do
the Small Business Server installations for customers because he didn't have
a clue about Windows 2000, whereas I at least had taken all of the classes
and held an MCP, and he would then dictate to how to go about doing thing
despite the fact they were the incorrect procedures.

<rant>
This type of sh*t pisses me off. I spend thousands of dollars on training;
hours and hours of time studying, working with the os, and practice testing;
all to get a "Premier" Microsoft certification so I can get a decent job but
they're all going to the guys with the "experience".
</rant>

Ok, Ok, I know what you all are thinking: experience is *very* important.
But seriously, where do these idiots come from? I feel your pain Ken. Good
luck with the inevitable disaster that you are being required to create. At
least if you cover your a**, it'll be good job security.

> I went about my business. I installed on the first computer, happy as can
> be. It installs great, and when I reboot, guess what happens? Yup, it asks
> me whether I want to boot into 2000 or XP. Hmmmmm....didn't see that one
> coming, did I?

Who would have thunk it?

> So, my instructions now are to not alter the way I'm doing
> things, but to simply edit the boot.ini file once the install is complete.
> This will "effectively" "delete" Windows 2000. I can smell disaster. This
> setup is only slightly more stable than Windows ME on a 5 year old
eMachines
> box with a failing hard drive.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

> Now, remember I said I was to backup Program
> Files? Yeah, well now it's time to restore backups. So, I do as I'm told
and
> begin restoring, knowing full well the adventures that lay before me. Of
> course, once backups are restored, most programs won't work. Acrobat
Reader
> works, and a couple custom apps work. But now I've got a mess of program
> directories with executables, dlls, and other assorted garbage in them
that
> just won't work. And worst of all, they're not "removable" (by Add/Remove
> Programs....because they're not installed. They're *there*, but they're
not
> installed.) So, I begin the awful task of reinstalling what I can, what
they
> need, and what I feel like giving them. So, the time comes to install our
> accounting/inventory software. It's called Best. And it's not. It's
nothing
> but trouble. So, after freezing on the install on the first machine for
over
> an hour, it finally "finishes". Turns out all it installed was some Best
> diagnostic something-or-other. So I have to scrap it and delete the
> appropriate Program Files directory, and go at it again. This time it
works.
> So, after I finish installing the junk for the lusers, all is well. Of
> course, it's only a matter of time before 2K and XP decide they want a
> divorce and cant handle living together in the same directory, and sh!t
hits
> the fan. Then the real fun begins.

I can't wait to hear how this "Led Zepplin" goes down.

> So, I was here until 9 last night doing this, I was in at 7 this morning
> doing this, but I'm getting my a$$ out of here at 5:30, not a minute
later,
> today. I don't know how much I can take of doing this the wrong way.
>
> Whether I like it or not, I'm just doing what I'm told. :(
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "Underling thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>



Re: Progress report by kpg

kpg
Tue May 11 17:26:35 CDT 2004

The Nazis were also "just following orders".

Coincidence? I think not.





Re: Progress report by Ken

Ken
Tue May 11 19:29:10 CDT 2004

"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in message
news:#JffHc6NEHA.2716@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> The Nazis were also "just following orders".
>
> Coincidence? I think not.

I have not been told to assimilate the local Jewish population, but should
the order come down, hey, it's just job security...

--


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Re: OT: Progress report by Rowdy

Rowdy
Wed May 12 04:49:32 CDT 2004

Frisbee® <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in news:emRriH5NEHA.2820
@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:

> So when he vesits a gal, he gets vestigal?

i guess that's how the "vest" was won.

Rowdy Yates, MCSE
--
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http://rowdy_yates2.tripod.com/
"it's a work in progress" :-(

Re: OT: Progress report by Kendal

Kendal
Wed May 12 09:12:44 CDT 2004

Was it a silk vest with gold buttons? Ooooo, to die!

"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94E73B418B08Crowdyyates2123@207.46.248.16...
> Frisbee® <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in news:emRriH5NEHA.2820
> @TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
>
> > So when he vesits a gal, he gets vestigal?
>
> i guess that's how the "vest" was won.
>
> Rowdy Yates, MCSE
> --
> Rowdy's Home Page
> http://rowdy_yates2.tripod.com/
> "it's a work in progress" :-(



Re: OT: Progress report by Mike

Mike
Wed May 12 16:32:35 CDT 2004

If you're looking for another Job - I can definately help
you out mate. Start date ASAP, If youre in the UK London
area that is...

michael undersore H undersore reed AT hotmail dot com
;)



>-----Original Message-----
>On Tue, 11 May 2004 14:57:08 -0400, Ken Briscoe
extemporised:
>
>> Well, it's day 2 of our migration from 2K to XP for
the client machines. Our
>> network admin isn't around today, as usual for a
Tuesday, and my boss is out
>> <rant snipped>
>
>You do, of course, have this moron's instructions in
writing. Right?
>
>If so, frustrating as it is, I would call the
situation 'Job Security' and
>'Overtime', and 'Time for that raise', and possibly
even 'Now that $Luser
>has been terminated, about that promotion...'
>
>If not, well, I feel your pain. You will, naturally, be
accused of not
>following instructions properly.
>
>Is your boss related to the owner, too?
>
>JaR
>Commiserating Thug
>.
>

Re: OT: Progress report by JaR

JaR
Wed May 12 17:53:16 CDT 2004

On Wed, 12 May 2004 14:32:35 -0700, Mike extemporised:

> If you're looking for another Job - I can definately help
> you out mate. Start date ASAP, If youre in the UK London
> area that is...
>
> michael undersore H undersore reed AT hotmail dot com
> ;)
>

That would be a tad more of a commute than I could handle.

JaR
NW USA Thug