MS Press 70-290 book and Windows Server 2003 EE evaluation copy

microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse:

I am working my way through [1] and have installed the
included evaluation copy of Windows Server 2003 Enterprise
Edition. I've noticed that group policy security and/or
other settings don't seem to take effect unless I reboot
the machine. I first noticed this when I turned off
password complexity requirements but couldn't create user
accounts with non-complex passwords. I noticed it again
when I did the exercises for Chapter 3, Lesson 4.


Any ideas?


TIA,

David


[1] Dan Holme and Orin Thomas, 2004, "MCSA/MCSE Self-Paced
Training Kit (Exam 70-290): Managing and Maintaining a
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment", Microsoft
Press, ISBN 0-7356-1437-7.

Jerz
Sun Jul 25 19:35:35 CDT 2004

Have you tried "gpudate" at the command prompt instead of
rebooting?

I'm no expert but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.

>>-->Jerz


>-----Original Message-----
>microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse:
>
>I am working my way through [1] and have installed the
>included evaluation copy of Windows Server 2003
Enterprise
>Edition. I've noticed that group policy security and/or
>other settings don't seem to take effect unless I reboot
>the machine. I first noticed this when I turned off
>password complexity requirements but couldn't create user
>accounts with non-complex passwords. I noticed it again
>when I did the exercises for Chapter 3, Lesson 4.
>
>
>Any ideas?
>
>
>TIA,
>
>David
>
>
>[1] Dan Holme and Orin Thomas, 2004, "MCSA/MCSE Self-
Paced
>Training Kit (Exam 70-290): Managing and Maintaining a
>Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment", Microsoft
>Press, ISBN 0-7356-1437-7.
>
>.
>

TechGeekPro
Sun Jul 25 20:27:11 CDT 2004

On Jul 25, 2004 "Jerz" blathered:

> I'm no expert but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.

Good line.

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David
Sun Jul 25 20:41:38 CDT 2004

Thanks for the response. I've never heard of "gpudate". It was my
impression (wishful thinking?) that WS2003 AD changes made via MMC take
effect immediately on the local server, and take effect upon
"synchronization" (or whatever it's called) on other servers ("soon" if
connected by fast/LAN links, "scheduled" if connected by slow/WAN
links).


Does anybody know of a KB article, etc., that explains when WS2003 AD
changes made via the Group Policy Object Editor 1.0 are supposed to take
effect? I did some digging on technet and came up with the following,
but couldn't find a answer to my specific question:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/management/mmc/


Does anybody know if the evaluation copy of WS2003EE is different from
the production version with respect to MMC?


TIA,

David

Neil
Sun Jul 25 21:00:38 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again "Jerz" <Jerz@rgns.com> spewed in
news:3db001c472a8$7796cbe0$a501280a@phx.gbl:

> I'm no expert but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.

no,no,no - Holiday Inn _Express_

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When I die, I want to die like my grandfather-who died peacefully in
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Neil
Mon Jul 26 06:52:56 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again "David Christensen" <dpchrist @at holgerdanske
.dot com> spewed in news:euvDQHrcEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> It was my
> impression (wishful thinking?) that WS2003 AD changes made via MMC take
> effect immediately on the local server, and take effect upon
> "synchronization" (or whatever it's called) on other servers

no the domain controllers are refreshed every 5 minutes so that if
multiple changes are made they are changed as a group not one by one.
this is very benificial when dealing with mutlile servers. instead of
having several 3 GPO updates for 3 changes in 5 minutes there is one
change sent. This is the same for 2000 (and in a way - stabilization -
was also in play for directory replication [LMREPL] in NT) so this was
pulled from technet article KB203607, which also shows how to change
these defaults:

"By default, if the administrator does not modify the default setting,
Windows 2000-based computers use 90-minute intervals. For domain
controllers, the default is 5 minutes. This default for domain
controllers is used because when a change to domain policy or rights is
made, this reduces the latency in applying the change to domain
controllers as replication occurs. If 0 (zero) is specified for the
refresh interval, the refresh occurs in 7-second intervals."


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Neil MCNGP #30
Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.

When I die, I want to die like my grandfather-who died peacefully in
his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car.

Neil
Mon Jul 26 06:55:42 CDT 2004

babbling on and on again "David Christensen" <dpchrist @at holgerdanske
.dot com> spewed in news:euvDQHrcEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:

> Does anybody know if the evaluation copy of WS2003EE is different from
> the production version with respect to MMC?
>

no the eval is exactly the same as the production copy with the exception
of the time limit

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Neil MCNGP #30
Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.

When I die, I want to die like my grandfather-who died peacefully in
his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car.